Utopian Socialism, Marx and the Industrial Revolution

Mark Lause lause at worldnet.att.net
Fri Mar 15 13:01:05 MST 2002

Macdonald Stainsby wrote:

> What do comrades have to say about the advance from utopian (west European)
> socialism, al la people in the tradition of Saint Simon, Babeuf and Owen- to
> scientific socialism: is there a link between the development of
> industrialisation and the development of Marx's ideas?

I confess to what will be a very unpopular position on this list.  How are Marxist
"scientific" social democratic parties different than preMarxist "utopian" Louis
Blanc?  Or many of the dominant interpretations of "scientific" Leninist
orientations different from the "utopian" Babouvist/Blanquist approach?  I think
that this distinction between preMarx and Marxist socialisms are mostly a matter of
degrees, sometimes not even that.


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