[Marxism] Could Socialists Not Use "Great" before Britain!

John Edmundson johnedmundson at paradise.net.nz
Fri Nov 2 22:07:47 MDT 2007

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 20:25 -0700, John Obrien wrote:
> Recently several people on this list have used the word "Great" before Britain.  This implies support for occupation of lands by England.
> There is nothing "Great" about Britain compared to other nations.

I always understood it was a term from Roman times, which distinguished
it from Lesser Britain (ie Brittany), these both being Celtic Roman
provinces. It had nothing to do with being "Great", as in better,
compared to any other country.

> Ireland's occupied six counties, Scotland, Wales and the other remaining colonies, should be receiving support from people on this list for independence from Britain and not reinforcing this right wing description of England. > And Greg replied, "Perhaps this is due to the fact that Great Britain never> had the historical experience of a Malcom X or a BPP. 

Ireland has never been part of Britain, great or otherwise. The UK is
the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (now) Northern Ireland. Great
Britain relates to the whole island, including England, Scotland and
Wales and predates the existence of those individual nations, or even
the concept of nations as we understand them. So I don't have a problem
with the term, but I do tend not to use the term UK as that does tend to
suggest the legitimacy of British domination of Northern Ireland.

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