[Marxism] Could Socialists Not Use "Great" before Britain!

Einde O'Callaghan einde at gmx.de
Tue Nov 6 05:03:35 MST 2007

Adam Richmond schrieb:
> I find this thread fascinating and a bit annoying. Is the Communist Party of Great Britain to the right of the Communist Party of Britain because of the geographic designation they choose to use for their two organizations? (The fact of the two CPs is also a fascinating and annoying story!).
The name Communist Party of Great Britian originated more than 80 years 
ago. This organisation ceased to exist in the earloy 1990s. The name was 
later appropriated by a small grouping to give it a spurious historic 

Since 1920 the meaning of the word "great" has shifted in meaning - in 
Britain at least. Insisting on calling the political entity "Great 
Britain" within the political entity is pre-occupation of the political 
right, not the left.

I therefore think we should be guided by the terminology adopted by 
socialists living there (and also the majority of teh people, who feel 
there is nothing particularly "great" about the political entity in 
which they live).

>   Will Ireland be one more iota free of occupation if we refrain from using "Great"? Will one more worker have the courage to stand up agains their capitalist oppressor if we only use the word "Britain?"
This isn't the point. I've been trying to point to the normal modern 
usage of the term. The political aspect is only marginal.

>   It has been suggested on this list that how socialists should address envelopes.  How silly.  Shall we address letters to the Socialist Republic of England instead.  It might attract more attention. 
My suggestion about addressing envelopes to "England", "Scotland", 
"Wales" and, in this one case, "Norhern Ireland" rather than "Britain" 
or "United Kingdom" is based on my experience as somebody who is a 
teacher of Business English - I've heard of firms who've lost contracts 
with firms because of teh ways they addressed the offer. "Cardiff, 
England" creates a bad impression - something on the lines of "if they 
don't know which country we're in, how can we regard them as reliable?"
This is not, of course, a reason why socialists should necessarily adopt 
the same solution

>   This discussion reminds me of the strenuous use of "AmeriKKKa" by many radicals and revolutionaries in the 1970s.  Of course that was a bit more pointed.  
I don't think it is "AmeriKKKa" or even "Amerika" was restricted to a 
radical political fringe and was never widespread in teh population as a 
whole. For the population as a whole, however, Britain is the more usual 
designation both for the island and the political entity.

Einde O'callaghan

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