[Marxism] NYC debate: "Occupy Tactics: Violence & Legitimacy in the Occupy Movement and Beyond"

Joseph Catron jncatron at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 23:32:52 MDT 2012

Note that CrimethInc.'s on the very insurrectionary,
non/anti-organizational end of the anarchist spectrum. But if Hedges'
public speaking on this topic is anywhere near as ignorant and boorish
as his writing, I kind of imagine his opponent's perspective won't be
such an issue.



Wednesday, September 12, 2012
7:00pm until 9:00pm in EDT

Occupy Tactics

Violence and Legitimacy in the Occupy Movement and Beyond:

A Debate between Chris Hedges and the CrimethInc. Ex-Workers
Collective on Tactics & Strategy, Reform & Revolution

Wednesday, September 12, 2012, 7:00 pm
Free admission

Proshansky Auditorium
Lower level, CUNY Graduate Center
365 Fifth Avenue (@ 34th street)
New York City, NY 10016

Not in NYC? A free livestream of the event will be available online.
Visit www.crimethinc.com/occupytactics on Sept. 12 for a link to the
live feed.

Why a debate?

Since Occupy Wall Street took Zuccotti Park in September 2011, there
has been a resurgence of social movement activity in the United
States. As momentum has increased, age-old questions over tactics,
strategy, and goals have returned to the fore.

What is violence? Who gets to define it? Do illegal actions have a
place in our movements? This discussion never takes place in a vacuum
or on a level playing field; rather, it occurs within the context of a
struggle that is already in progress, where every statement has
immediate ramifications for the participants. Differing tactical
approaches often reflect fundamental differences in strategy and

At the core of these issues is the question:
What are we fighting for and how do we get there?

This moderated debate will feature:

Chris Hedges, Journalist
Chris Hedges is an American journalist, author, and war correspondent,
specializing in American and Middle Eastern politics and societies. He
will speak to the perspectives behind his controversial article “The
Cancer in Occupy” regarding black bloc tactics and anarchist
participation in the Occupy movement.

B. Traven, CrimethInc. Ex-Workers Collective
B. Traven will support the case for a diversity of tactics in the
Occupy movement and in broader anti-capitalist struggles worldwide,
illustrating an anarchist critique of the status quo and a vision of
social transformation. CrimethInc. has produced many books and
articles, including “The Illegitimacy of Violence, the Violence of
Legitimacy,” composed in part as a response to Hedges’ “The Cancer in

Moderated by Sujatha Fernandes, CUNY Graduate Center
Sujatha Fernandes is an Associate Professor of Sociology at Queens
College and the Graduate Center, City University of New York. She is
the author of several books on urban politics and culture; the latest
is “Close to the Edge: In Search of the Global Hip Hop Generation”
(Verso). She has written about the Occupy movement and recent global
uprisings for The New York Times and The Huffington Post.

Opening remarks by Sarah Leonard, Dissent Magazine
Sarah Leonard is an editor and writer living in Brooklyn, with
particular interest in Left politics and the cultural effects of
technology. She is an editor of The New Inquiry and N+1, Associate
Editor at Dissent magazine, and a co-editor of Occupied!: Scenes from
Occupied America.

Co-sponsored by: CUNY Graduate Center, CrimethInc. Ex-Workers
Collective, Aid & Abet, The Sparrow Project, Occupied Media, The
Indypendent, PM Press, Bluestockings Bookstore

For more information and to download flyers:

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