[Marxism] Origins of Provocative Video Are Shrouded

Steffan Wyn-Jones mrpettymrsmorse at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 12 16:00:07 MDT 2012


And this seems to confirm what Joseph Catron said earlier about the Israeli director being a fiction: http://gawker.com/5942748/
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> Things get more bizarre: 'One thing that is immediately evident from watching the nearly 14-minute long trailer for the film is how low the production quality is. I mean really, it is unbelievable that this movie could have cost anywhere near the reported $5 million that it took to make it. Because the production value is so atrociously low, the terrible audio and dubbing just seems par for the course. But on further inspection I noticed something: seemingly every reference to the religion of Islam in the trailer is dubbed over in post production.If you watch closely, you can see that when the actors are reading parts of the script that do not contain Islam-specific language, the audio from the sound stage is used (the audio that was recorded as the actors were simultaneously being filmed). But anytime the actors are referring to something specific to the religion (the Prophet Muhammed, the Quran, etc.) the audio recorded during filming is replaced with a poorly executed post-production dub. And if you look EVEN closer, you can see that the actors’ mouths are saying something other than what the dub is saying.' http://www.onthemedia.org/blogs/on-the-media/2012/sep/12/religious-references-innocence-muslims-dubbed/
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> > NY Times September 12, 2012
> > Origins of Provocative Video Are Shrouded
> > By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
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> > CAIRO — The amateurish video at the center of the violence in Libya and 
> > in Egypt opens with scenes of Egyptian security forces standing idle as 
> > Muslims pillage and burn the homes of Egyptian Christians. Then it cuts 
> > to cartoonish scenes depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a child of 
> > uncertain parentage, a buffoon, a womanizer, a homosexual, a child 
> > molester and a greedy, bloodthirsty thug.
> > 
> > The trailer was uploaded to YouTube by an individual whose identity was 
> > in question. Some news organizations carried interviews with someone who 
> > said he was the filmmaker and identified himself as Sam Bacile, an 
> > Israeli-American real estate developer in California, but there was no 
> > immediate confirmation in official records of such a person. In one 
> > report, he identified himself as 52 and in another, 56.
> > 
> > Yigal Palmor, the spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry, said in a 
> > telephoned statement: “Nobody knows who he is. He is totally unknown in 
> > filmmaking circles in Israel. And anything he did — he is not doing it 
> > for Israel, or with Israel, or through Israel in any way.” Mr. Palmor 
> > also called the filmmaker “a complete loose cannon and an unspeakable 
> > idiot.”
> > 
> > It is unclear whether a full movie even exists. Executives at Hollywood 
> > agencies, including William Morris Endeavor, Creative Artists Agency and 
> > United Talent Agency, said they had never heard of “Innocence of 
> > Muslims,” either from a cast, crew or financing standpoint. Hollywood 
> > unions said they had no involvement or did not respond to queries. 
> > Casting directors did not recognize actors in the 14-minute YouTube 
> > video that purports to be a trailer for a longer film.
> > 
> > FilmLA, which coordinates permits for location shoots in Los Angeles 
> > County, said it had no records for the movie, as did the Orange County 
> > Film Commission and the California Film Commission. They cautioned, 
> > however, that they could not say definitively that no related production 
> > entity applied for a permit.
> > 
> > Still, a film of this sort — with rudimentary props and costumes, 
> > cartoonish visual effects, poor lighting — would be relatively easy for 
> > amateurs to make. Digital video cameras can be purchased for $3,000 or 
> > less, and relatively sophisticated video editing software is widely 
> > available. Casting can be as simple as posting an ad on Craigslist or 
> > tacking a flier to a Starbucks bulletin board.
> > 
> > In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, the man who said he was 
> > the filmmaker called Islam “a cancer,” and said he had raised $5 million 
> > from about 100 Jewish donors and had shot a two-hour movie in California 
> > last year. The Associated Press said he said it took three months in 
> > 2011 and used 59 actors and 45 crew members.
> > 
> > The A.P. reported reaching a consultant on the film, Steve Klein, who 
> > said he had warned the filmmaker “you’re going to be the next Theo van 
> > Gogh,” referring to the Dutch filmmaker killed by an Islamic militant in 
> > 2004 after making a film about abuses in Islam.
> > 
> > By Internet video standards, few people had watched it until the violent 
> > protests. A trailer posted on YouTube had 6,000 views on Tuesday and 
> > more than 116,000 on Wednesday. An Arabic translation, which has since 
> > been taken down by YouTube after a copyright claim by an entity called K 
> > Music Sound Productions, had garnered more than 40,000 views, according 
> > to the Hollywood film news Web site TheWrap.com. A copy of the Arabic 
> > version uploaded by the Islamic Observatory Centre in Britain registered 
> > 90,000 views before it was removed on Wednesday.
> > 
> > The video gained international attention after a version dubbed in 
> > Arabic was publicized in the Egyptian media and when a Florida pastor, 
> > Terry Jones, began promoting the video along with his own proclamation 
> > of Sept. 11 as “International Judge Muhammad Day.”
> > 
> > On Wednesday, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs 
> > of Staff, called Mr. Jones and asked him to consider withdrawing his 
> > support for the video, a senior administration official told reporters 
> > in a conference call. Mr. Jones’ response was “non-committal,” the 
> > administration official said.
> > 
> > The Guardian reported Wednesday that the film clip was also promoted 
> > last week by Morris Sadek, an Egyptian-American Copt based in California 
> > who has an anti-Islamic blog. One posted photograph features Mr. Sadek 
> > and Mr. Jones at a small anti-Islam protest outside the White House in 
> > June. Mr. Sadek, reached by Reuters, said he thought the film 
> > highlighted discrimination against Egypt’s Christians and said he was 
> > sorry that American diplomats had been killed. He said he was interested 
> > only in the first part of the film, “about persecution of Copts,” 
> > Reuters reported. Mr. Sadek has told The Associated Press that he plans 
> > to show the film.
> > 
> > In a statement, Mr. Jones, of Gainesville, Fla., called the film “an 
> > American production, not designed to attack Muslims but to show the 
> > destructive ideology of Islam” and said it “further reveals in a 
> > satirical fashion the life of Muhammad.”
> > 
> > He said the embassy and consulate attacks illustrated that Muslims “have 
> > no tolerance for anything outside of Muhammad” and called Islam “a total 
> > deception.”
> > 
> > Mr. Jones inspired deadly riots in Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011 by first 
> > threatening to burn copies of the Koran and then burning one in his 
> > church. He also once reportedly hanged President Obama in effigy.
> > 
> > Reporting was contributed by Brooks Barnes from Los Angeles, Robert 
> > Mackey and Jeffrey Marcus from New York, Elisabeth Bumiller from 
> > Washington, and Isabel Kershner from Jerusalem.
> > 
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