xc From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Feb 29 22:31:39 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17727 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:31:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (hydra2.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.140]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12259 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:32:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38BCAC1D.D55160DB@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:35:25 -0700 From: David Strayer Organization: University of Utah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ABC8B9B259AD867782CF9823" Subject: [Psych3120] Test of Cognitive Psych Message Board This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ABC8B9B259AD867782CF9823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a test of the new class message board. --------------ABC8B9B259AD867782CF9823 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ds2144.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Strayer Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ds2144.vcf" begin:vcard n:Strayer;David tel;fax:(801) 581-5841 tel;home:(801) 364-0654 tel;work:(801) 581-5037 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:strayer@psych.utah.edu fn:Dave Strayer end:vcard --------------ABC8B9B259AD867782CF9823-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Feb 29 23:31:28 2000 Received: from web3306.mail.yahoo.com (web3306.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.155]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19427 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:31:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000301063401.11647.qmail@web3306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.186.18] by web3306.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:34:01 PST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:34:01 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] testing 1...2...3... From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Feb 29 23:43:05 2000 Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19607 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:43:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000301064537.5028.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.186.18] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:45:37 PST Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:45:37 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] substantive "man in the woods" comment On the first day of class I missed the question which asked, "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around, it makes a sound" (True or False). I have sincle learned why the answer to that question is false. Recently on the Internet I ran across the following question: "If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?" I have been married long enough to know the answer to that one. :) From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 1 18:58:00 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f185.hotmail.com [216.32.181.185]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12030 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:57:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 59339 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2000 02:00:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20000302020029.59338.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:00:29 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:00:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Human Error After reading the five articles on human error case studies and “What Jennifer Saw,” I have to admit that I have less trust in many institutions. However, I do not think that the errors are that shocking. People make mistakes all of the time. So why would we assume that sometimes the mistakes that we make, however trivial they may seem, can be deadly or that they occur in hospitals, air planes, cars, and the like? What does surprise me is the lack of education of the general public regarding the rate of human errors that occur that are fatal, the actual cause of the error and the solution to prevent or limit the possibility of the error occurring again. Why aren’t engineers educated about how humans can function better if certain tasks are arranged in a specific way? It seems that often one of the main causes of an error is because of the way that the machine or tools used, were poorly designed. What laws are out there to ensure that engineers have mandatory education in human error and mental workload? What is being done currently to correct old technology, or new for that matter, that has a high potential for a serious and fatal mistake to occur? Who monitors this type of stuff? What is happening now to make the public more aware of this? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 1 19:18:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f45.hotmail.com [216.32.181.45]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12406 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:18:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 73180 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2000 02:21:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000302022120.73179.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:21:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:21:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Eyewitness Testimony I do not understand why eyewitness testimony is so highly valued by juries. Not only that but I can’t believe that the judge in the “What Jennifer Saw” story did not allow Reed Hunt to testify that memory is not as is appears to be and that eyewitness testimony is not always factual, even if the eyewitness does not lie. Why aren’t juries routinely educated about the unreliability of eyewitnesses? I think that it is ironic that the courts do not allow lie detector tests as admissible evidence yet, they allow people to tell a story of what they have seen that is so often only seen through their personal reality. Both of these types of evidence seem equally unreliable to me! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 2 08:40:11 2000 Received: from anthill.nsc.utah.edu (anthill.nsc.utah.edu [155.99.246.11]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26435 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:40:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from park.admin.utah.edu (park.admin.utah.edu [128.110.148.3]) by anthill.nsc.utah.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB0D354B1 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:43:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK/SpoolDir by park.admin.utah.edu (Mercury 1.47); 2 Mar 00 08:43:14 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK (Mercury 1.47); 2 Mar 00 08:42:53 -0700 From: "Erika Stewart" Organization: University of Utah To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:42:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: Subject: [Psych3120] Burn the Witch! While watching Dr. Strayer play the "Burn the Witch" game I noticed something. As the number of the items to remember increased it took more time for the player to respond to each one. In other words, they had to stop and think about it more. While observing this I began to question why this took more time. Dr. Strayer went on to discuss that it did take more time but I am still not sure I understand why. Can someone explain? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 2 13:28:36 2000 Received: from utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com ([204.106.63.61]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01783 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:28:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from 204.106.32.242 by utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com with SMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Thu, 02 Mar 00 13:03:48 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 Received: from FSCNET-Message_Server by mail.fscnet.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:56:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:55:56 -0700 From: "Richard Reep" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 14A016AE13381-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id NAA01786 Subject: [Psych3120] post to bulletin This is in response to the message "Eyewitness Testimony" posted by Tim & Monique Gibson. This is an except from an interview with Elizabeth Loftus that can be linked via Frontline and the episode page for "What Jennifer Saw". "Well, one of the things that we know about juries and how they react to evidence that they're hearing is that they do place a lot of weight in eyewitness testimony. They especially place weight in eyewitness testimony when it's very confidently expressed. When the victim, for example, can give a whole lot of details. Jurors are impressed with that confident detailed testimony and they're very persuaded by it. Now why jurors are so influenced by eyewitness testimony--that's a more difficult question to answer and one of the reasons may be that we don't catch most of the mistakes that we make in our memories. If I tell somebody that I had a chicken last night instead of hamburgers, I'm going to get away with that mistake because my listener isn't going to catch it. I think we're not really as aware of the malleability of memory. How readily distorted our memories can be and that's one reason we place so much weight on someone else's memory--when it's a confident memory." This is really scary, especially when it gets into cases of sexual assault involving children, or "recovered memories". From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 2 13:53:08 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.225]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02303 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:53:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 68298 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2000 20:55:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000302205540.68297.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 155.99.1.155 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:55:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [155.99.1.155] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:55:40 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Burn the Witch! This is in response to Burn the Witch! posted by Erika Stewart. You can only keep 7 (+/- 2) bits of information in your short term memory, and to keep them there you must rehearse them. If you are given 2 bits of information, lets say the letters A and B, to keep them in your short term memory, in your mind you would keep saying to yourself A-B-A-B, etc. If you were given 7 bits of information; A,B,C,D,E,F and G, to keep them in your short term memory, you would have to repeat to yourself A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C-D-E-F-G, etc. If you were to verbally repeat these sequences, the A-B sequence takes much less time to say than the A-G sequence. So, I believe this is why as the number of witches to burn on the game increased, the time it took to respond also increased. The more witches there were to remember, the longer the sequence was to repeat in your head, thus the longer reaction time. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 2 14:15:36 2000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02776 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:15:35 -0700 (MST) From: AYELEL@aol.com Received: from AYELEL@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.d3.22558b2 (7401) for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:17:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:17:16 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] human error I think that it would be impossible for engineers, or anyone to account for all possible aspects of human error. While it is possible to reduce human error through education and training, there seems to be no way to accurately predict all behavior and errors that will happen. There are certain parts of us that separate us from machines, and as soon as we are able to predict all forms of possible behavior, then I feel that we would stop being human. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 08:10:46 2000 Received: from cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17551 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:10:45 -0700 (MST) From: r.nagle@m.cc.utah.edu Received: from mike (pub-dial7.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.9]) by cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA08593 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:25:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003060625.XAA08593@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:35:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Human error in witnesses Some of the posts remind me of an example Dr. Dodd (and others) have done in class. They have a confederate start yelling at them and then storm out of the room. In Dr. Dodds class out of the entire class room almost no one could remember any major characteristic (hair, eyes or voice ect...). Also I just want to point out to the people grading this site, that I have and a very hard time posting to it for the last 2 weeks now. I assume that you realize this, but I just wanted to make sure. Russell Nagle From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 08:10:48 2000 Received: from cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17554 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:10:47 -0700 (MST) From: r.nagle@m.cc.utah.edu Received: from mike (pub-dial30.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.32]) by cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA13368 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:38:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003042238.PAA13368@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:48:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Eye witness This is a follow up message to the eye witness testimony message, I don't know if anyone remembers an example used in Psych1010, where Dr. Dodd had a confederate yell at him and then run out of his class. He would then ask people to describe the confederate and out the that large packed auditorium no one could. Also, I would just like to say that for the past 2 weeks or so, I couldn't get onto the the message board to post ( I assume because the message board was changing) but I just want the graders to keep this in mind. Thanks Russell Nagle From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 08:10:54 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (imail@mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17585 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:10:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from 0016287778 ([12.72.138.46]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000306055555.VFZQ5318.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@0016287778> for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:55:55 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01bf8739$45343c00$2e8a480c@0016287778> From: "Vickie Astin" To: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:57:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF86F6.35D9B480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [Psych3120] reponse to discussion This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF86F6.35D9B480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Considering the comments made thus far, many opinions have been = introduced about human fallacy and societal accountability for failure = to meet expectations in consideration of human service; therefore I = might as well pose my opinion as well. It is our society's premier = reaction to place blame when error occurs. America loves to string up = the culprits of outrageous events, but fails it seems to reconcile = society as whole as to easily reconcilable problems. Perhaps it is due = to embarrassment, or some political reason, or a money factor. However, = when it comes to human life and happiness, it is a grave responsibility = for which action must be taken to facilitate education to reduce human = error, and create the mechanisms to reduce scenarios for human error. = We all want to blame the doctor who makes a mistake, the lawyer, or = punter in a football game who loses, the slot machine for not winning, = the CIA or FBI did it, whatever. The simple matter is...We're human. = We will screw up. The thing here seems to be, are we going to get = caught for our mistakes instead of accepting responsibility. We all = make bad or imperfect choices, or even good choices with unexpected or = inexplicable consequences. But what are we going to do about it...Hide? = I find it slightly foolish to consider never going to a doctor again = because he or she might plug in the wrong machine and kill me (or drop a = junior mint in me during an open surgery). If we blame and accuse = instead of accepting-then changing that what is wrong progress will be a = treadmill, and stay in one place. We accept the risk of human error = every time someone cooks a meal for us, ride in or drive and automobile, = use a public restroom, or even walk down the street. The question is = how can we make it safer, how can attention always be focused, how can = risky situations be reduced etc. Not, who can we blame, sue, or = incarcerate for a mistake. The point of this blabbering is a response = to Tim and Monique's statement "...what does surprise me is the lack of = education of the general public regarding the rate of human errors and = the solution to limit or prevent the possibility of the error occurring = again." I agree, that because of beaurocracy and embarrassment and a = refusal to be accountable or associated with a "mistake" the general = public is not properly informed on issues such as these for which they = can lobby for improvement. However, the general public needs to shift = from finding a scapegoat, and placing blame on and hating someone for = making a mistake ( This discussion occurs in behalf of such = instances-disregarding crime or intended harm or malicious intent) to = helping he/she whom made a mistake to rectify it and thus contribute to = the betterment of society, thus when they who blame make a mistake = (which is inevitable as humans) they can receive society's forgiveness = and help to again better the world around them. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF86F6.35D9B480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Considering the comments made thus far, = many=20 opinions have been introduced about human fallacy and societal = accountability=20 for failure to meet expectations in consideration of human service; = therefore I=20 might as well pose my opinion as well.  It is our society's premier = reaction to place blame when error occurs.  America loves to string = up the=20 culprits of outrageous events, but fails it seems to reconcile society = as whole=20 as to easily reconcilable problems.  Perhaps it is due to = embarrassment, or=20 some political reason, or a money factor.  However, when it comes = to human=20 life and happiness, it is a grave responsibility for which action must = be taken=20 to facilitate education to reduce human error, and create the mechanisms = to=20 reduce scenarios for human error.  We all want to blame the doctor = who=20 makes a mistake, the lawyer, or punter in a football game who loses, the = slot=20 machine for not winning, the CIA or FBI did it, whatever.  The = simple=20 matter is...We're human.  We will screw up.  The thing here = seems to=20 be, are we going to get caught for our mistakes instead of = accepting=20 responsibility.  We all make bad or imperfect choices, or even good = choices=20 with unexpected or inexplicable consequences.  But what are we = going to do=20 about it...Hide?  I find it slightly foolish to consider never = going to a=20 doctor again because he or she might plug in the wrong machine and kill = me (or=20 drop a junior mint in me during an open surgery).  If we blame and = accuse=20 instead of accepting-then changing that what is wrong progress will be a = treadmill, and stay in one place.  We accept the risk of human = error every=20 time someone cooks a meal for us, ride in or drive and automobile, use a = public=20 restroom, or even walk down the street.  The question is how can we = make it=20 safer, how can attention always be focused, how can risky situations be = reduced=20 etc.  Not, who can we blame, sue, or incarcerate for a = mistake.  The=20 point of this blabbering is a response to Tim and Monique's statement = "...what=20 does surprise me is the lack of education of the general public = regarding the=20 rate of human errors and the solution to limit or prevent the = possibility of the=20 error occurring again."  I agree, that because of beaurocracy and=20 embarrassment and a refusal to be accountable or associated with a = "mistake" the=20 general public is not properly informed on issues such as these for = which they=20 can lobby for improvement.  However, the general public needs to = shift from=20 finding a scapegoat, and placing blame on and hating someone for making = a=20 mistake ( This discussion occurs in behalf of such = instances-disregarding crime=20 or intended harm or malicious intent) to helping he/she whom made a = mistake to=20 rectify it and thus contribute to the betterment of society, thus when = they who=20 blame make a mistake (which is inevitable as humans) they can receive = society's=20 forgiveness and help to again better the world around=20 them.
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF86F6.35D9B480-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 09:07:55 2000 Received: from anthill.nsc.utah.edu (anthill.nsc.utah.edu [155.99.246.11]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18857 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:07:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from park.admin.utah.edu (park.admin.utah.edu [128.110.148.3]) by anthill.nsc.utah.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC0B354AF for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:45:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK/SpoolDir by park.admin.utah.edu (Mercury 1.47); 3 Mar 00 16:45:50 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK (Mercury 1.47); 3 Mar 00 16:45:36 -0700 From: "Erika Stewart" Organization: University of Utah To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:45:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: Subject: [Psych3120] Slips, Lapses & Mode Errors Since the lecture on 2/24, regarding Human Error, I have taken much more notice to my own slips, lapses and mode errors. I have a tendency to be an airhead, or maybe I just have a busy mind, but in any case, it can be quite humiliating when you realize just how many mistakes you can make. I caught myself last weekend, on several occasions, saying "oh that was a lapse, or there goes a slip." Just yesterday, I had a lapse (amazingly enough!). I was walking back to my office from lunch, and couldn't remember if I closed the sunroof in my car, so I had to turn around and check to make sure I did. I have realized that when I am stressed out or my mind is preoccupied with other thoughts, I screw up a lot more, as is probably the case with most people. That got me thinking about how much human error, such as in the Set Phasers On Stun stories, is caused simply by stress, versus other possibilities. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 12:52:10 2000 Received: from yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (jab13@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23254 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:52:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jab13@localhost) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA03312 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:55:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:55:12 -0700 (MST) From: J Bottino Sender: J.Bottino@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] message board After reading "Set Phasers of Stun," I realized how such small errors in human attention can play such a big role in the lives of others. I also realized how much of an impact not paying attention can have on systems. The stories in this book were pretty amazing to me. For example, it was amazing to me that by just pulling a rod up more than four inches could destroy three lives and emit dangerously toxic amounts of radiation into the air. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 08:22:28 2000 Received: from gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@gos.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.3]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17967 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:22:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from m.cc.utah.edu (Mdialup183.slkc.uswest.net [207.224.204.183]) by gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA04624 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:48:22 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38C352F4.D90EE76F@m.cc.utah.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 22:40:53 -0800 From: Richard John Bell Organization: University of Utah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] message to message board The other day, when the class was discussing the recall capcity of a noraml brain, It got me think about the recall capacity of a person with an amazing memory. If the normal brain can recall 7 things plus or minus two, I wonder how many a things a person's brain can recall if they had a photographic memory? I always hear about these amazing people that can recall anything they have have read or seen. I think it would really interesting to compare an average persons brain recall to a person with special memory capability. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 10:12:34 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20034 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.114) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:06:22 -0700 Message-ID: <38C3EA0A.FBD2C3A4@networld.com> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:25:30 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Lapse I want to comment on the lecture on memory lapse while driving. I am originally from Arizona, and every break between sememsters I drive there. It is about a ten hour drive and what I noticed is that I would be driving for a long while in deep deep thought and then all of a sudden I just come too, and realize that I had no idea what I had just passed, or who I had passed. Because I travel alone, I was bothered by this, and would tell myself to pay more attention to my driving or something dangerous could happen. After driving for a long period I would again find myself in the same state with out realizing what I was doing again. I've always thought of these trips as good therapy because I get so much deep thoughts out of them. Although, I would worry that there was something wrong. After the lecture I realized that I am not the only one this happpens to. Is there anyone else who finds this happening to them? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 10:28:01 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20294 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:28:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.114) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:22:49 -0700 Message-ID: <38C3EDE4.DEC225A5@networld.com> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:41:57 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Memory We discussed long term and short term memory and the three different storages of memory in class. But, what about the Elderly people who lose their memory, if long term memory is permanent? Why are some able to recall events that took place many years earlier, and forget what happened yesterday? I'm guessing, this is part of the decay =time process? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 11:42:27 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f261.hotmail.com [209.185.130.177]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21838 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:42:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 58203 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2000 03:38:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000303033819.58202.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.213.212 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:38:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.213.212] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:38:19 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Chunking and stuff I'm assuming that i followed the directions on the psych home page and that this message is being sent to the class message board. If not will somebody please let me know. I've been practicing the chunking technique with various types of memorization activities and i have found it extremely useful for increasing memory retension. Are there any other types of techniques that are as effective on memory as chunking? I would beinterested if any has any further information... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 11:48:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f83.hotmail.com [209.185.131.146]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21958 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:48:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22128 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2000 03:44:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000303034417.22127.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.213.212 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:44:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.213.212] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:44:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] testing 1...2...3... My last message that i posted discussing 'chunking" did not get posted. Am i doing something wrong? somebody. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 16:10:03 2000 Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27144 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:10:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000306231234.29614.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.186.25] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:12:34 PST Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] method of loci While reading about the method of loci, I was reminded of the novel Hannibal by Thomas Harris. Dr. Lecter visits the "palace of his mind" to retrieve Clarice Starling's address: "... The third alcove from the door on the right is dominated by a painting of St. Francis feeding a moth to a starling. On the floor before the painting is this tableau, life-sized in painted marble: A parade in Arlington National Cemetery led by Jesus, thirty-three, driving a '27 Model-T Ford truck, a 'tin lizzie,' with J. Edgar Hoover standing in the truck bed wearing a tutu and waving to an unseen crowd. Marching behind him is Clarice Starling carrying a .308 Enfield rifle at shoulder arms. Dr. Lecter appears pleased to see Starling. Long ago he obtained Starling's home address from the University of Virginia Alumni Association. He stores the address in this tableau, and now, for his own pleasure, he summons the numbers and the name of the street where Starling lives: 3327 Tindal Arlington, VA 22308 Dr. Lecter can move down the vast halls of his memory palace with unnatural speed. With his reflexes and strength, apprehension and speed of mind, Dr. Lecter is well armed against the physical world. But there are places within himself that he may not safely go, where Cicero's rules of logic, of ordered space and light do not apply...." (Harris, 1999, p. 253-254). A year later this passage popped right back into my head as I read about the method of loci. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 14:13:14 2000 Received: from web1105.mail.yahoo.com (web1105.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.125]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25011 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:13:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000303065912.17789.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.251.58] by web1105.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 22:59:12 PST Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:59:12 -0800 (PST) From: charlie huff To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Chunking In class Dr. Strayer explained that our memory tends to chunk information into chunks of 7 +/- 2, I was wondering how much information can go into a chunk? Charles Huff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 20:30:24 2000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01853 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:30:23 -0700 (MST) From: AMASAV@aol.com Received: from AMASAV@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.d8.1da2d08 (4010) for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:32:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:32:50 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Subject: [Psych3120] Mental Lapses While discussing human error last week, I couldn't help but laugh about my own mental lapses. The most frequent lapse of mine takes place following work. I will get to my car and not remeber if I have locked the office door. I then have such a strong urge to return and check. Almost always it is locked. If I were to just drive away and assume it was locked it would consume my mind all night. I find it easier just to take a minute and check. Jeff Larson 3/6/00 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:14:40 2000 Received: from slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.3]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03639 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:14:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 21046 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2000 05:17:12 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 21040 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:17:12 -0000 Received: from jdsl199.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.226.69.199) by pop.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2000 05:17:12 -0000 Message-ID: <38C490FB.1F11C665@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:17:47 -0700 From: Jessica Keys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Eyewitness Testimony The comments about eyewitness testismony made me curious as to how many people try to argue the unreliablity of eyewitness testimony as a defense for crimes that they have been accused of. Does anyone know how common this defense is and whether or not it has ever worked?? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:20:20 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f165.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.165]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03816 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:20:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 58465 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307052252.58464.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.216.244 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:22:52 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.173.216.244] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Chunking and stuff Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:22:52 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ashcraft's book gives two other techniques for increasing memory recall using mnemonics. The first is on p.133, the method of loci, and Rod McAffe just posted a good example of this today. The other is the peg-word mnemonic technique on p.135. I memorized the list in table 5.1 last week, and I can still remember all of the words today, so I guess it also works pretty well too. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:23:39 2000 Received: from slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.3]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03914 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:23:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28004 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2000 05:26:11 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 27966 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:26:09 -0000 Received: from jdsl199.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.226.69.199) by pop.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2000 05:26:09 -0000 Message-ID: <38C49314.D464FEA6@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:26:44 -0700 From: Jessica Keys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Human error I agree with the person that wrote that it would be impossible for anyone to account for all possible aspects of human error. It has been my experience that when people do things they usually are not thinking about everything that could go wrong. They are just trying to get it done. Because most people do not think that way most people will not sit and make a list of all the things that could go wrong with regard to human error. Set Phasers on Stun helped me to realize that I need to pay a little bit more attention to what I am doing so that I can reduce my human error instead of blaming the designer of a program or machine for not designing the machine to prevent my mistake from occurring. Jessica Keys From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:31:14 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f242.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.242]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA04205 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:31:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 41338 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:33:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307053346.41337.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 38.27.114.138 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:33:46 PST X-Originating-IP: [38.27.114.138] From: "jason rock" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:33:46 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] long term memory In class Dr. Strayer said that in the field of cognitive psychology the general belief is that memories are permenant. What are the schools of thought that disagree with this claim and why? -JRock ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:35:23 2000 Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.1]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA04303 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:35:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 4020 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2000 05:37:55 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 4007 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:37:54 -0000 Received: from jdsl199.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.226.69.199) by slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2000 05:37:54 -0000 Message-ID: <38C495D5.5EEA0739@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:38:29 -0700 From: Jessica Keys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Slips, lapses I have found that I have had the same experiences as Erika since the lecture on 2/24. I have noticed that most of them occur when I first wake up and am rushing to get everything together for work and school that day or when I am coming home from work. I have done the same thing with labeling my mistakes as slips, lapses, etc. as Erika has recently. I have noticed that I tend to have more slips or lapses when I am tired not when I am stressed. When I am stressed I seemed to remember more things that I need to do instead of forgetting them. I have caught myself a few times on my way home right before I had a slip about an errand I was going to do on my way home. I think that lecture made me a little bit more aware of my potential to make mistakes when I am tired. Jessica Keys From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 22:47:34 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f269.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.147]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA04548 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:47:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 11572 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 05:50:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307055006.11571.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.216.244 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:50:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.173.216.244] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Memory Lapse Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:50:06 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I doesn't bother me as much if I am driving in the middle of nowhere and space out as it does if I am driving around in the city. It scares me to think that I (or anybody else) could have just ran through a number of red lights and not even noticed. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 23:26:26 2000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA05519 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 23:26:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 10412 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2000 06:29:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307062928.10411.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.252.113] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:29:28 PST Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Clark To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] sleep. attention, and music Wouldn't it be harder to fall asleep with music on because you attend to the music and therefore can't fall asleep. What about instramental music, why is it different with studying and does it hold true for sleeping. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 12:22:10 2000 Received: from web3607.mail.yahoo.com (web3607.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.111]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA19179 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:22:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000307192540.17543.qmail@web3607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.27.79] by web3607.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:25:40 PST Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:25:40 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Macdonald To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] short-term memory In class today, we talked about retrieving short term memory. I have a question about memory created from visual or audial senses. Suppose I were to see an apple on a desk. I realize that, first, transduction would occur and light stimuli would be changed to a neuron-based message that would terminate in the neocortex. When I go to retrieve information about the apple I saw, where does my mind "pull" information about that apple from. Are there certain parts of the brain that save only visual information? Furthermore, would audial information be stored in a certain part of the brain? What mechanism tells the brain where to receive certain information-what is the great connector of memory? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 12:40:46 2000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19601 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:40:45 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.a7.210d102 (4313) for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:43:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:43:13 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Short term memory Hi From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 12:48:46 2000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19734 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:48:45 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.a8.23037d7 (4313) for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:51:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:51:16 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Short-term This comment is about last Tuesday's lecture with the burn the witch demonstration. I am curious to know if there is a difference between males and females in short term memory when play games such as burn the witch or the games when you had to remember the order of color. ( the game was round with four button-green, yellow, blue, and red). This just came to my mind when the two males did better than the one female. I know it is a small sample, but I am just curious to if any studies have been conducted on short term memory and games. My second though is, does chunking play a large role in short term memory? Could Wally have participated in the game with a successful score as he did without chunking or vice versa, could the first participate had a better score if he had used the chunking technique. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 13:27:37 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (yh26960@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20470 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (yh26960@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27171 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:30:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:30:38 -0700 (MST) From: Y Hosseini Sender: Y.Hosseini@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Message #1 Just by reading the first paragraph in the article discussing short-term, working memory I have found a relationship to it. I never thought about memory in this way. The thoughts that I have right now is the same as the information that is stored in my short-term memory. For example, thinking about the reading assignment I have this week for this class is also in my short-term memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 13:30:48 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (yh26960@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20644 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:30:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (yh26960@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27556 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:33:49 -0700 (MST) From: Y Hosseini Sender: Y.Hosseini@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Message #2 When reading about the Sternberg task I found it to be interesting work. However, I am a little skeptical with the scan process being 38 milliseconds per item. How can such a theory or statement be measured accurately? Have other theories of this sort been introduced to the field? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 14:49:59 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22013 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:49:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (uranus.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.210]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29379 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:51:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38C57BA3.C3AC1B67@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:59:00 -0700 From: David Strayer Organization: University of Utah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B05A8D90B660ACAC734D17B3" Subject: [Psych3120] Test of threaded messages This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B05A8D90B660ACAC734D17B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a test of threaded messages. --------------B05A8D90B660ACAC734D17B3 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ds2144.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Strayer Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ds2144.vcf" begin:vcard n:Strayer;David tel;fax:(801) 581-5841 tel;home:(801) 364-0654 tel;work:(801) 581-5037 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:University of Utah;Department of Psychology adr:;;390 South, 1530 East, RM 502;Salt Lake City;Utah;84112-0251;USA version:2.1 email;internet:strayer@psych.utah.edu title:Associate Professor fn:David Strayer end:vcard --------------B05A8D90B660ACAC734D17B3-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 14:50:56 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f249.hotmail.com [216.32.181.249]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22140 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:50:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22144 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2000 21:53:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307215328.22143.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:53:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:53:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] False Memory Is it possible to somehow distinguish between an actual memory and a “suggested memory?” By suggested memory I mean a false memory, like when your parents tell you about something funny that you did or said as a child, they also show you pictures of it and now you think that you remember doing or saying it? What about distinguishing between reality and a dream? Is there a way to prove that the actual memory is real and the generated false memory is false? If so what does the process entail? Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 15:27:55 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22899 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:27:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from hsc.utah.edu ([155.100.61.119]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with ESMTP id <0FR20082DP7LM9@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:30:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:31:38 -0700 From: Jeremy Jordin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: <38C5834A.E7D4D7DA@hsc.utah.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Subject: [Psych3120] Burn the Witch In the game Burn the Witch there were a few factors which seemed to aid in the memory of the stimuli presentation. Each witch was a different color, and each witch made a different sound when "burned". Each of these factors could potentially contribute to the concept of chunking. It would be interesting to see if there would be any differences if each of the witches were the same color and made the same sound when burned. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 15:42:57 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23227 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:42:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FR2008HMPWNNZ@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:45:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:45:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:45:54 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id PAA23228 Subject: [Psych3120] testing..testing Testing From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 17:41:45 2000 Received: from smtp.burgoyne.com (email.burgoyne.com [209.197.0.17]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25383 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:41:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from burgoyne.com (pmc29.burgoyne.com [209.197.2.133]) by smtp.burgoyne.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29476 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:44:18 -0700 Message-ID: <38C450E0.D42A58B6@burgoyne.com> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:44:17 -0700 From: Murdock Reply-To: Murdock@burgoyne.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] case studies Last weekend I was reading the last of the case studies found in the books Set phazers on stun. ect. I was amazed that these type of accidents actually happen. My question-is there some sort of governmental regulation protecting innocent victims from the results of human error? It seems to me that there must be something that can be done to help reduce many of these unnecessary accidents. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 20:01:56 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27814 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:01:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (hydra1.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.139]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18434 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:03:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38C5C35A.A5C36A43@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:04:58 -0700 From: David Strayer Organization: University of Utah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] False Memory Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F11EFD28D64558D2317981D7" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F11EFD28D64558D2317981D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once false or recoded memories are created, it is difficult if not impossible to distinguish from "real" memories. The false memories are as real to the person as real memories. --------------F11EFD28D64558D2317981D7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ds2144.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Strayer Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ds2144.vcf" begin:vcard n:Strayer;David tel;fax:(801) 581-5841 tel;home:(801) 364-0654 tel;work:(801) 581-5037 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:strayer@psych.utah.edu fn:Dave Strayer end:vcard --------------F11EFD28D64558D2317981D7-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 21:34:51 2000 Received: from smtp.burgoyne.com (email.burgoyne.com [209.197.0.17]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29414 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:34:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from burgoyne.com (pma40.burgoyne.com [209.197.2.42]) by smtp.burgoyne.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA14438 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:37:00 -0700 Message-ID: <38C4876D.3443C737@burgoyne.com> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:37:01 -0700 From: Murdock Reply-To: Murdock@burgoyne.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] confirm 874371 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 23:14:15 2000 Received: from www0n.netaddress.usa.net (www0n.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.43]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01200 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:14:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 4579 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Mar 2000 06:17:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308061705.4578.qmail@www0n.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.43 by www0n for [209.210.176.20] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Mar 8 06:17:05 GMT 2000 Date: 7 Mar 00 22:17:05 PST From: Kristina Waters To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id XAA01201 Subject: [Psych3120] Episodic and Semantic memory As I was reading the text about the the distinguishing differences between semantic and episodic memory. It made we wonder what the parallel is for infantile amnesia. Is it that since semantic memory is being highly developed, that episodic memory is being left out, and when we have semantic memory established and pretty much under control, that is when episodic memory kicks in and creates real "memories" of childhood. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 23:14:48 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.44]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01244 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:14:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 69404 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2000 06:17:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308061719.69403.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.251.19 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:17:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.251.19] From: "matt anderson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 06:17:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] short and long term memory My question is related to short and long term memory. To me it seems like there is some kind of memory store in between the STM and LTM. The short term memory is your consciousness and if you don't either keep something there by repetition, or put it in the long term memory, you lose that information. It seems to me that once something's in my STM, and I don't focus on it long enough for it to go to my LTM, the next time I hear it or attempt to memorize it, it is still much easier to encode. The information never made it to my LTM, but it was in my memory in some vague form. Is there some sort of mechanism that helps to process information that we are familiar with but have never tried to memorize, or is that information in some deeper part of the LTM? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 23:18:15 2000 Received: from ww182.netaddress.usa.net (ww182.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.82]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01376 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:18:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 9295 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Mar 2000 06:21:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308062117.9294.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.82 by ww182 for [209.210.176.20] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Mar 8 06:21:17 GMT 2000 Date: 7 Mar 00 22:21:17 PST From: Kristina Waters To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id XAA01377 Subject: [Psych3120] HUD and attention I just found it interesting that the investigators think that it was a HUD ( heads-up diplay) that was the reason for the Southwest Airlines plane to skid off the runway. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 00:02:09 2000 Received: from nim.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@nim.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.6]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02179 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:02:09 -0700 (MST) From: r.nagle@m.cc.utah.edu Received: from mike (pub-dial37.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.39]) by nim.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA06095 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:05:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003080705.AAA06095@nim.oz.cc.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:14:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Question about Sternberg I am just wondering about the study done by Sternberg where he found that adding 1 item cost and the same amount of time. What happens to the time when the model must search through more then 6 items? Does reaction time continue to add by 38 msec? Or does RT get slower (that is what I think would happen). Also, I was wondering if I had the right idea as far as this whole model goes. If I am driving home and I hear that a certain exit is closed, and I think that this exit is along my link do I mentally search through all the exits and then make my decision? I understand the way it was explained in class, I am just trying to put it in a real life example. Russell Nagle From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 11:27:52 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14183 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:27:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.246) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:22:56 -0700 Message-ID: <38C69EFE.496798BD@networld.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:42:06 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Interference Part of the lecture on Types of Interference, regarding retroactive and proactive interference, I though it was hillarious when Dr. Strayer gave the exmaple of how old material in our memory interfers with new memories, and the husband calls his new wife by the old wife's name. Due to the fact that I have done or still continue to do this same thing. My niece has a new boyfriend who's name is Jason, and I continually call him by her old boyfriends name which is Jacob. The names are so similar it very difficult and I always have that interference. Now, I just call him "J." From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 11:45:39 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14566 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:45:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.246) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:39:51 -0700 Message-ID: <38C6A2F9.2E208E9E@networld.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:59:05 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Release Proactive I could see how Wickens release from proactive interference works, because I use this type of method to help memorize numbers. I've even told family members about this method and it seems to work for them also. What I've been doing is related to money. When there is a certain number that I need to remember I will put that number in dollar amounts and it seems to make it eaier to remember. Because money is so common if you psychologically related it to a number it makes it easier to remember. Example: if your pin number for the teller is #4510 you would rehearse Forty-five dollars and ten cents ($45.10) a few times, you have this psychologically in your head it sticks. I think this is similar to the example Dr. Strayer gave in class; fruits and vegtables, except it's money and numbers. Maybe someone might want to try this to see if it really works for them. It's kinda fun! From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 12:52:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f191.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.191]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15774 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:52:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 81652 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2000 19:55:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308195523.81651.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.29.145 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:55:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.29.145] From: "Meagan Cahoon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:55:23 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] memory I was just reading Albert Dixon's strategy for remembering pin's etc...and I thought that would come in really handy. I work at a credit card company and people are constantly calling and complaining that they can't choose their own pin and they can't remember the one we gave them...I try to give them helpful hints to remember it by and I am going to try this one and see if this one works. Remembering it in terms of money. It sounds like it would! Thanks Albert! I am really looking forward to learning more mnemonics in class they have always helped me w/ the really big information that I need to remember for tests and things. I am curious about the ones that we will be taught in class. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 14:30:51 2000 Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA17669 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:30:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000308213322.4182.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.180.236] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:33:22 PST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] An example of Dr. Strayer's comment I read the following statement that Dr. Strayer posted: "Once false or recoded memories are created, it is difficult if not impossible to distinguish from "real" memories. The false memories are as real to the person as real memories." In Personality Theories (Psy. 3440) we read about a childhood memory of Alfred Adler. He was a very sick child and developed a fear of dying and of cemetaries: "He recalled being about 5 years old and being frightened over the fact that the path to school led through a cemetery. The other children weren't afraid, which only exaggerated his feelings of inferiority. One day, in an effort to rid himself of his fear, he ran back and forth through the cemetery, over and over. From then on he was able to walk through it on his way to school without difficulty." Years later Adler was speaking with a childhood friend and asked if he remembered the cemetery that they used to walk through to go to school. "The man was bewildered by the question, replying that there hadn't been a cemerery. After seeking out other former schoolmates and getting the same reply, Adler finally realized that his memory was wrong" (Carver & Scheier, 2000, p. 272). From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 16:57:36 2000 Received: from emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.31]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20276 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:57:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [168.191.233.109] (sdn-ar-001utslciP197.dialsprint.net [168.191.233.109]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17140 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:00:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003090000.QAA17140@emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:01:26 -0700 From: "Matthew Ross" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] memory I had a question about differences in people's memory. It seems as though some of the smartest people that I know are able to remember things very quickly. Are they simply using better memory techniques, or is there more to it? Also, I know people who can't remember anything that they don't think is important, even things that happened very recently. Is it possible to have this type of selective memory where you choose what you want to remember? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 17:37:04 2000 Received: from www0f.netaddress.usa.net (www0f.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.35]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA21007 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:37:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22065 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2000 00:40:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309004006.22064.qmail@www0f.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.35 by www0f for [216.160.243.46] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Thu Mar 9 00:40:06 GMT 2000 Date: 8 Mar 00 16:40:06 PST From: jeffrey nolting To: Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id RAA21008 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory storage Karl Pribram, a well known neuroscientist, once posited that memory is stored all over the brain in the form of a hologram. I wondering if any of his subsequent work or that of any other researcher(s) has supported his theory. Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 17:38:21 2000 Received: from wwcst269.netaddress.usa.net (wwcst269.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.14]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA21051 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:38:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3099 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2000 00:41:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309004122.3098.qmail@wwcst269.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.14 by wwcst269 for [216.160.243.46] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Thu Mar 9 00:41:22 GMT 2000 Date: 8 Mar 00 16:41:22 PST From: jeffrey nolting To: Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id RAA21052 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory storage Karl Pribram, a well known neuroscientist, once posited that memory is stored all over the brain in the form of a hologram. I'm wondering if any of his subsequent work or that of any other researcher(s) has supported his theory. Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 18:21:05 2000 Received: from yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (jab13@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21855 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:21:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jab13@localhost) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA07854 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:24:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:24:06 -0700 (MST) From: J Bottino Sender: J.Bottino@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] retreival cue demonstration I was reading in chapter 5 about retrieval cues, and on page 161, there is a fun demonstration to do. I thought it was pretty interesting how much I could remember from the lists! The lists looks really long, but it contains a sentance that puts an image in your head, this makes it so much easier to remember. I was curious what the best method of studying would be. Is it best to use imagery as well as rehearsal and mnemonics? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 19:13:15 2000 Received: from csimo02.mx.cs.com (csimo02.mx.cs.com [205.188.156.53]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22763 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:13:15 -0700 (MST) From: Leroy0716@cs.com Received: from Leroy0716@cs.com by csimo02.mx.cs.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.54.1e4afa5 (3940) for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:15:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54.1e4afa5.25f8634c@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:15:40 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 44 Subject: [Psych3120] cognitive slips This is in reference to the lecture on cogntive slips. After that lecture, I started thinking about all the times I have had these kind of experiences. However, I was wondering if and when the slips eventually become a memory failure???? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 19:16:33 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22892 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:16:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:19:27 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 00 19:18:57 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 00 19:18:37 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:18:36 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <277634C3433@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> Subject: [Psych3120] Memory I currently do research with people with Parkinson's patients and it is interesting to me to see the degraded and often times almost complete impairment with memory itself. We give the patients the DRS (dimentia rating scale) and many of the patients leave with less than stellar performances. I have also done research on the effects that Parkinson's has on Executive Functioning (planning, organizing, strategy, etc.) and the diminshed capacity with these patients. I was wondering if any clear cut correlation exists between defecits in dopamine (theorized to be one of the leading culprits of Parkinson's) and memory have been found? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 20:19:36 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23977 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:19:35 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.47.1f93276 (9651) for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:22:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47.1f93276.25f872d9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:22:01 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] memory this is just a thought on memory...just wondering if humans were the only species using the exhaustive/rehersal methods of retrieval and memorization. What kind of work has been done with other primates regarding this. I seem to recall seeing a lot of operant conditioning in teaching monkeys to learn language/comm. skills, but I wonder if their recall & storage techniques are similar....what about dolphins or whales?? grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 23:15:29 2000 Received: from web1105.mail.yahoo.com (web1105.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.125]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA27092 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:15:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000309061830.13789.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.251.9] by web1105.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:18:30 PST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: charlie huff To: "psych class" "message board" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] slips Frequently when I am going home from school I'll decide that I need to stop at my bank. The route to my house is similar to my bank from school. Although I'm conscious of my thought to goto the bank, I'll automatically drive myself home, not realizing that I've done it until I'm home. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 00:14:43 2000 Received: from web606.mail.yahoo.com (web606.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.170]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28140 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:14:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 8582 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Mar 2000 07:17:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309071744.8581.qmail@web606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.173.25.105] by web606.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:17:44 PST Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:17:44 -0800 (PST) From: alan calderon To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] chunking I found the exercise with the witches thought provoking. The first two students to attempt this task of memory got about as far as I did as I followed along. When Wally finally made his attempt I had an easier time remembering the sequence in chunks than earlier remembering each single step alone. While Wally put the info in chunks of three, I put it in chunks of four. After the exercise I could not remember any of the first two sequences without chunking, but days later I could still remember some of my chunks of four: 4141, 1413 is all I remember now, over a week later. But it's amazing to me that even though there's so much more info, it's easy to remember these two chunks. Maybe I've found a way to raise my GPA! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 00:34:20 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.115]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28523 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:34:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 35983 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 07:36:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309073651.35982.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:36:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:36:51 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk. #3 The thing that I found particularly interesting when learning about color blindness was the Ishihara Test for Color Blindness. Every time that I go to the eye doctor, he gives me a similar test. I knew that he was "making sure that I could see the numbers", but I really had no idea how much that little test could tell him about how my eye was functioning and if my color vision was accurate. I have a good friend that is color blind and it is interesting to me that I can now see a little more clearly what his world is like. As I looked for the numbers within the circles, while a little tricky in some cases, I could always make out a number. I can now see that he can only see "spots". It is fascinating to me that I can now understand some of the differences in the way that he and I see the world! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 00:48:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f192.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.192]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA28821 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:48:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 79718 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 07:50:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309075056.79717.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:50:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:50:56 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk #4 In this weeks lecture, we discussed the importance of illusions. We also touched briefly on Random Dot Stereograms (RDS). As I was thinking about illusions and these RDS, the first image that comes to mind is the 3-D Images that were so popular about two years ago. I always had a difficult time focusing my eyes in just the right way to be able to see beyond the "dots" to the "hidden image". After a little practice, I was able to clearly see the simple images -- such as the dinosaur. However, more complex images that are "hidden" within the dots continue, to this day, to remain completely hidden to me. Everyone offers their words of advice on how to see the image, but I have yet to find something that will help me to bring the more complex images into focus. If anyone out there has any helpful hints, please let me know! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 00:55:14 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f294.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.172]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA29002 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:55:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 66836 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 07:57:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309075746.66835.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:57:45 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:57:45 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk. #5 I was particularly struck by the lecture on Divided Attention and driving while using a cell phone. I actually participated in the study that researched this last semester. Until that time, I had no idea that driving while using a cell phone was nearly as deadly as it is! I personally own a cell phone and I answer it when I am driving. I also make quick calls home to check on things when I have left the house in a hurry. After this lecture, I have been very hesitant to use my phone while I am in the process of driving. When I am forced to answer the phone while in the car, I have paid conscience attention to my ability to concentrate on the road and the conversation. I have noticed that there is a huge impairment to one or the other and that I can not do both well. Most often now, I tell whoever is calling that I will call them back when I can pull off the road. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 01:12:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f284.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.162]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA29345 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 01:12:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 93875 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 08:14:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309081456.93874.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:14:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:14:56 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk. #6 In preparation for the exam, I reviewed the study guide. The question that really caught my eye was number 8 -- on apperceptive and associative agnosia. This was a particularly interesting question for me because I am intrigued by the whole concept of agnosia. Until taking this class, I had never had the opportunity to study this disorder. (The video was quite amusing, by the way ...) Although the distinction between the two types of visual agnosia was difficult for me at first, appreceptive being a difficulty grouping things together and associative being a difficulty in linking an object with knowledge, I have come to appreciate this disorder more fully. I was also fascinated with the disorder prosopagnosia -- agnosia for faces. I was wondering if there is a particular branch of study in cognitive psychology that studies just this disorder? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 01:26:02 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.169]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA29641 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 01:26:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 65899 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 08:28:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309082833.65898.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:28:33 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:28:33 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk. #7 In lecture this week we were discussing Human Error. Human error included three categories: Slips, Lapses, and Mode Errors. The one that I could relate to best was Lapses -- memory errors or forgetting. I have a classic example of a lapse. Often I will curl my hair in the morning with hot rollers and then touch it up with the curling iron. I am often in a hurry when I leave the house and find myself frantically doing a mental checklist of everything from books to car keys. As I am driving in (I have a 45 min. commute every morning) I can often not remember if I turned the curling iron off. If is my habit to curl my hair by the sink so if I burn my fingers I can dip them in cold water. This turns into a problem if I leave the curling iron on and am not home. It doesn't matter how many times I curl my hair, I can never remember if the curling iron is on or off about 20 min. into my commute. I can mentally retrace my steps, but I am never absolutely sure whether I left the curling iron on! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 02:05:59 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f168.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.168]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA00418 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:05:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 37139 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 09:08:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309090826.37138.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.14.200.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 01:08:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.14.200.173] From: "brianne lystrup" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 02:08:26 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Posting for Wk. #8 This week in lecture, we learned about short term memory store. Until this point, I had never really thought about memory much at all. It was fascinating to me that information decays as quickly as 15-20 seconds! That isn't even long enough to grab a pencil in most cases! Also, I found the limited capacity interesting. I had never really considered the amount of information that could be retained at one point in time. When we were presented with the number 7 + or - 2, my initial thought was, "Wow! That can't be right. Only five to nine numbers at a time?" But as we further looked into it in lecture, it became obvious that those figures are relatively accurate!! Then we further discussed the concept that "chunking" would help to raise that number. This too was obvious to me as I thought about how I remember my social security number. My social security number, just like everyone else on the planet, is nine digits. I remember it in three distinct "chunks" -- the first three digits, the next two digits, and the remaining four digits. This was also demonstrated in the witch exercise - as Wally chunked numbers together he was better able to remember the pattern .. well, mostly!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 09:33:58 2000 Received: from slcc.edu (mail.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.196]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08277 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:33:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from GROUP001-Message_Server by slcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:39:41 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 09:36:11 -0700 From: Karen Pratt To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Psych3120] Lapses & College students Does anyone know if college students tend to have more lapses than non-students? Since I have started college I have lapses all the time and I never used to have them before. I have the hardest time remembering if I have locked the door or not. It drives me crazy to the point that I have to walk back to check and every time it is locked. Karen Pratt From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 12:19:42 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11377 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:19:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 91770562E4; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:22:43 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.178 Message-Id: <20000309192243.91770562E4@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:22:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) I was thinking about the way the Greeks memorize information through memorizing a Loci. I was thinking of how I could use it to memorize stuff for each of my different classes and keep each of the class information in different spots. I was thinking of making my class schedule like a house. Dr. Strayer mentioned using the living room. If I make all of my Cognitive Psychology information be in the garage and all of my Abnormal information be in the pantry. I could make it a little easier to memorize. What do you think? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 13:15:22 2000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12492 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:15:21 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.ce.285216a (4367) for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:17:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:17:48 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] context When I took my Psych 101 final a few years ago, there was another Psych 101 class scheduled for their final at the same time. Both classes had been held in the behavioral science auditorium, and one of the classes had to hold the final somewhere else. Even though I knew only little about cognitive psych then, I had learned about the imprortance of context in learning and testing. It turned out that my class got to have the final in the behavioral science auditorium, instead of the fine arts auditorium. But I wonder what effect the change in environment might have had on the other class. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 13:19:58 2000 Received: from web3302.mail.yahoo.com (web3302.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.25]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA12586 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:19:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000309202229.29159.qmail@web3302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.180.199] by web3302.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 12:22:29 PST Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] state dependent learning and massed practice I guess it is confession time. I have been guilty of cramming many times during my college career. I have studied all night (never going to sleep) before some tests, and I accomplished this by drinking lots of caffeine to stay awake. I have always maintained my caffeine level through the test in an effort to capitalize on the state dependent learning principle. I was very disappointed when I ran across the following: "Aspartame, a chemical used in diet drinks and artificial sweeteners, contains phenylalanine, the amino acid involved in phenylketonuria (PKU), an enzyme disorder that can cause mental retardation. Even in normal people, too much diet soda can impair mental performance--especially when accompanied by cake or other sweets, which make it easier for phenylalanine to get into the brain. Eating protein-rich foods such as peanuts or cheese with diet dringks can offset the effects of phenylalanine" (Papalia, Camp, & Feldman, 1996, p. 178). Sleep deprivation, diet cola, and massed practice make it harder to learn the material. Thankfully I am in the same sleepy yet caffeinated state when I take these exams. I might show up to the next exam with diet cola, string cheese and peanuts. :) From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 14:17:21 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f20.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.20]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13731 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:17:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 56893 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 21:19:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309211952.56892.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.10.133.240 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 13:19:52 PST X-Originating-IP: [12.10.133.240] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] (no subject) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 14:19:52 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Maybe you should keep your abnormal behavior in the closet. :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:22:43 -0700 (MST) I was thinking about the way the Greeks memorize information through memorizing a Loci. I was thinking of how I could use it to memorize stuff for each of my different classes and keep each of the class information in different spots. I was thinking of making my class schedule like a house. Dr. Strayer mentioned using the living room. If I make all of my Cognitive Psychology information be in the garage and all of my Abnormal information be in the pantry. I could make it a little easier to memorize. What do you think? _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 14:46:18 2000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14331 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:46:18 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.60.145794b (4399) for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:48:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60.145794b.25f97630@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:48:32 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] memory/gender differences memory and the sexes...what can be said about how we store/retrieve memories based on our gender?? It seems male/female memories have to have some evolutionary background (as with many adaptive systems we humans have); perhaps stereotyping but wherein the male species may have a memory system set up for more aggressive/competitive nature as with food/shelter/survival vs. the female system of caring/nuturing/providing in a more social sense. What does this say about how we remember? maybe not much, but perhaps the sexes have a different memory setup and it would be interesting to know if this has been tested or looked at. grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 15:01:21 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14672 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:01:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from john (208.247.97.166) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:55:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bf8a15$2441c6a0$a661f7d0@john> From: "John Hiller" To: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:15:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF89DA.4C93E560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Reply-To: jhiller@networld.com Subject: [Psych3120] learning vs memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF89DA.4C93E560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There have been some very thought provoking comments posted on this = board.=20 I was particularly interested in the comments about how memory might be = a function of=20 intelligence. That is, how is it that some people seem to be able to = put things immediately into memory with perfect recall while others (like myself) have to = strain to stuff it in there and=20 then can't seem to find it when they need to recall it? Also, the person who questioned memory tests on other species and how = they might incorporate information into memory and then retrieve it relates to a question that = I have which is: It seems to=20 me that the studies that we have reviewed have all presented information = that was familiar to the=20 subjects in the studies. In other words, most of the tests were = performed on north american=20 subjects and they used familiar symbols like letters from the english = alphabet or the arabic=20 number system. Could we expect different results if the test = information was presented in some=20 kind of different format (i.e. Japanese congi characters)? =20 If those characters were completely foreign to test subjects would those = subjects still use chunking,=20 loci, etc.. techniques to store and retrieve that information? Or, is = that something to do with learning which is different from memory? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF89DA.4C93E560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There have been some very thought = provoking=20 comments posted on this board. 
I was particularly interested in the = comments about=20 how memory might be a function of
intelligence.  That is, how is it = that some=20 people seem to be able to put things immediately
into memory with perfect recall while = others (like=20 myself) have to strain to stuff it in there and
then can't seem to find it = when they need to=20 recall it?
 
Also, the person who questioned = memory tests=20 on other species and how they might incorporate
information into memory and then = retrieve it=20 relates to a question that I have which is:  It seems = to 
me that the studies that we have = reviewed have=20 all presented information that was familiar to the
subjects in the studies.  In other = words, most=20 of the tests were performed on north american
subjects and they used familiar symbols = like=20 letters from the english alphabet or = the arabic=20
number system.  Could we = expect different=20 results if the test information was = presented in=20 some 
kind of different format = (i.e. Japanese congi=20 characters)? 
If those characters = were completely foreign to=20 test subjects would those subjects still use chunking, =
loci, etc.. techniques to store and = retrieve that=20 information?  Or, is that something to do with = learning
which is different from=20 memory?
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF89DA.4C93E560-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 15:19:46 2000 Received: from anthill.nsc.utah.edu (anthill.nsc.utah.edu [155.99.246.11]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14971 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:19:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from park.admin.utah.edu (park.admin.utah.edu [128.110.148.3]) by anthill.nsc.utah.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2559F354B9 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:22:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK/SpoolDir by park.admin.utah.edu (Mercury 1.47); 9 Mar 00 15:22:47 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK (Mercury 1.47); 9 Mar 00 15:22:20 -0700 From: "Erika Stewart" Organization: University of Utah To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:22:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [Psych3120] learning vs memory Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000201bf8a15$2441c6a0$a661f7d0@john> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <60E2411099@park.admin.utah.edu> John's comments just provoked some thoughts of my own. I work at Valley Mental Health in a boys unit. We recently had a boy who was about 14 years old, with a very low IQ (70-80). The idea that memory could be a function of intelligence might be demonstrated in his abilities. When working with him, it is like working with a two year old. You could give him a command or instruction and twenty seconds later you are repeating yourself. It usually took 5-6 times of explaining before he understood something, even something simple. Could this be because he doesn't have the memory capacity to remember what I just said? Or could it be because his intelligence is so low that he can't think to remember what I just said? Or both? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 19:07:15 2000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.199]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18940 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:07:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Lyuga0rAVu7XHZ3rA7Je7fgEydjLLtQVymJE12pop0Zdr8ZO7KQ15w=="> Received: (from spunkysparks@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E2RYQHQ8; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:06:48 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:23:38 -0700 Message-ID: <20000309.192339.-330939.0.spunkysparks@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Kristy L Sparks Subject: [Psych3120] new message board I am very glad that we were talking about some of the mnemonic devices to improve memory. I had a test in another class today and used some of the devices to remember the information for the test. In my intro to psychology class way back in the community college my instructor used some mnemonic devices to help us remember some of the terms. I will never forget the word tardivdyskenisia because the teacher chanted it over and over while dancing on top of his desk. I always laugh and remember that word when I think about that class. It was experiences like that which made me decide to pursue a psychology major. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 19:35:29 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19480 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:35:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from william ([12.72.139.181]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000310023751.CLEO22178.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:37:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000001bf8a3a$6d6c17c0$b58b480c@william> From: "Mommy" To: "University of Utah" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:43:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] IQ and memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the amount of = information they are able to retrieve from memory? Does a person with a = higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored = memories? J. Bireley ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the = amount of=20 information they are able to retrieve from memory?  Does a person = with a=20 higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored=20 memories?
 
J. Bireley
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 19:35:29 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19481 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:35:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from william ([12.72.139.181]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000310023750.DKEJ14555.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:37:50 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf8a3a$6ce75760$b58b480c@william> From: "Mommy" To: "University of Utah" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:43:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] IQ and memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the amount of = information they are able to retrieve from memory? Does a person with a = higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored = memories? J. Bireley ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the = amount of=20 information they are able to retrieve from memory?  Does a person = with a=20 higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored=20 memories?
 
J. Bireley
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF89FF.BF38CDE0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 20:02:30 2000 Received: from web3902.mail.yahoo.com (web3902.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.198]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20051 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:02:30 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000310025603.24121.qmail@web3902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.204.213] by web3902.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:56:03 PST Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:56:03 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Long Term Memory Right before a test, you usually rehearse the information for that test enough times, that it seems like this information should become apart of your long term memory. Why is it then, that after one takes that test, the information from that test is not easy to recall after about a month? Does that information really go to the long term memory? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 20:03:14 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20095 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:03:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from william ([12.72.136.28]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000310030544.DVMS14555.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:05:44 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf8a3e$52caefa0$1c88480c@william> From: "Mommy" To: "University of Utah" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:11:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF8A03.A5258DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] Fw: IQ and memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF8A03.A5258DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: To: University of Utah Date: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:43 PM Subject: IQ and memory Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the amount of = information they are able to retrieve from memory? Does a person with a = higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored = memories? J. Bireley ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF8A03.A5258DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Date:=20 Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:43 PM
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Is there a relationship between a persons IQ and the = amount of=20 information they are able to retrieve from memory?  Does a person = with a=20 higher IQ have more strategies or easier access to their stored=20 memories?
 
J. Bireley
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF8A03.A5258DE0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 20:05:19 2000 Received: from web3902.mail.yahoo.com (web3902.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.198]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20183 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:05:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000310025938.24907.qmail@web3902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.204.213] by web3902.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:59:38 PST Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:59:38 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Long Term Memory Right before a test, you usually rehearse the information for that test enough times, that it seems like this information should become apart of your long term memory. Why is it then, that after one takes that test, the information from that test is not easy to recall after about a month? Does that information really go to the long term memory? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 20:12:11 2000 Received: from web3902.mail.yahoo.com (web3902.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.198]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20352 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:12:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000310031054.27608.qmail@web3902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.204.213] by web3902.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:10:54 PST Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:10:54 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] memory In class today it was mentioned that when people are trying to retrieve a word or a name, they often times remember it by the first letter of the word. I often experience this, therefore I am very interested in why this occurs. What does this say about our memory? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 20:28:23 2000 Received: from web3907.mail.yahoo.com (web3907.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA20648 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:28:22 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000310033054.27856.qmail@web3907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.204.213] by web3907.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:30:54 PST Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] mnenomic devices Today in class we discussed mnenomic devises,and now that I am looking at my notes, I am not sure I understand the last two that were discussed. To provide a durable trace and to provide a good retrieval stucture; what were the key things to be understood about these? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 9 22:08:15 2000 Received: from csimo02.mx.cs.com (csimo02.mx.cs.com [205.188.156.53]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22394 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:08:15 -0700 (MST) From: Leroy0716@cs.com Received: from Leroy0716@cs.com by csimo02.mx.cs.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.49.1b60fa3 (7543) for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:10:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49.1b60fa3.25f9ddd2@cs.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:10:42 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 44 Subject: [Psych3120] attention I was looking at the study guide for the second test and I am having some problems with the first question. I have the POC curve but I am still not quite sure what that says about attention. I have looked through my notes and I can't really find anything that answers this question. Also the second part of the question about task A and B as you become more skilled, is that just that the skills become more automatic or is there more to it than that?????? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 09:39:51 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08783 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:39:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.251) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.18 AS-0098319) for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:34:06 -0700 Message-ID: <38C92884.A33197B3@networld.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:53:24 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Lapses & College students References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In response to Karen Pratt's message, I think that's an interesting question. Due to the fact that I have noticed the same lapse since I have been in college. I have so much going on with my full time schedule at school, work and somewhat of a social life. I've noticed there are little things that I forget here and there, things I never had a problem with before entering college Karen Pratt wrote: > Does anyone know if college students tend to have more lapses than non-students? Since I have started college I have lapses all the time and I never used to have them before. I have the hardest time remembering if I have locked the door or not. It drives me crazy to the point that I have to walk back to check and every time it is locked. > > Karen Pratt > > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 09:49:06 2000 Received: from ephemera.nsc.utah.edu (ephemera.nsc.utah.edu [155.99.51.13]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08997 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:49:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from park.admin.utah.edu (park.admin.utah.edu [128.110.148.3]) by ephemera.nsc.utah.edu with ESMTP id JAA19758 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:52:07 -0700 Received: from EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK/SpoolDir by park.admin.utah.edu (Mercury 1.47); 10 Mar 00 09:52:07 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-UTAH-ADMIN-PARK (Mercury 1.47); 10 Mar 00 09:51:44 -0700 From: "Erika Stewart" Organization: University of Utah To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:51:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Long Term Memory Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20000310025603.24121.qmail@web3902.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <7360B608B2@park.admin.utah.edu> To answer Julie's question... Yesterday in class, we discussed the level in which information goes into Long Term Memory. We talked about the depth of processing and the four levels from Craik & Lockhart. They were structural, phonemic, categorial, sentence. Dr. Strayer said that the worst memory recall was from information at the structural level and the recall got better as you graduated to the sentence level. The structural level is where most people study at and that is why they don't remember things as well. If they can put information into categories and sentences, they will remember more and retain the information longer because it is stored deeper into their long term memory. If you have read other postings, there is an example of this where the professor danced around on his desk as he was chanting a big long word. She will never forget the word because she was able to categorize it with the professors actions, and it was locked deeper into the long term memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 15:44:53 2000 Received: from venus.gse.utah.edu (venus.gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15205 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:44:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from gse.utah.edu (gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.2]) by venus.gse.utah.edu (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA01940 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:55:35 -0700 Message-Id: <200003102255.PAA01940@venus.gse.utah.edu> Received: from GSE-SOL/SpoolDir by gse.utah.edu (Mercury 1.44); 10 Mar 00 15:50:34 -700 Received: from SpoolDir by GSE-SOL (Mercury 1.44); 10 Mar 00 15:50:24 -700 From: "Bobbi Davis" Organization: Graduate School of Education To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:50:22 MST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Subject: [Psych3120] Memory is interesting I wasn't looking forwarded to reading 4 long chapters in our text book about memory. But the beginning quote, by E.F. Lofus, in chapter five (Episodic Long-Term memory) helped me to look at memory in a different light. "Memory is the most important function of the brain; without it life would be a blank. Our knowledge is all based on memory. Every thought, every action, our very conception of personal identity, is based on memory...Without memory, all experience would be useless." This quote was reaffirmed by the example Dr. Strayer gave of the man who had his Hippocampus removed and could only retain memory for a few minutes. Losing his memory, was like losing one of his senses. Having memory enables us to function in the world just has seeing and hearing does. I was curious, was this main able to retain his long-term memory, or was both his working memory and long-term memory effected by the removal of his Hippocampus? bdavis@gse.utah.edu From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 17:53:12 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f203.hotmail.com [209.185.130.113]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17555 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:53:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 34897 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2000 00:55:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000311005543.34896.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.217.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:55:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.217.195] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:55:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] under-water My question has to do with Baddeley's deep sea diver experiment. How where these deep sea diver's memory actually tested? Was it conducted using visual or auditory cues when testing state dependant learning? In other words, what was the stimulus for the diver's. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 18:05:13 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f141.hotmail.com [209.185.131.204]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17803 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:05:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 12649 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2000 01:07:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000311010744.12648.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.217.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:07:44 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.217.195] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:07:44 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Also on the subject of state dependant learning; Do some states of mind, such as under the influence of coffee or herbal supplements increase recall or storage in short or long term memory. (In comparison, of course, with the more obvious substance induced states...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 19:15:51 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19090 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:15:51 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.e3.2255e38 (4224) for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:18:18 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory and Meaning After reading chapter five and from the class lectures, I strongly believe that memory is partly there because of the meaning associated with words or events. About a month and a half on dateline or 20/20, the show discussed memory and meaning. They had a couple individuals on how they memorized things. They had one girl who could memorize a deck of cards (52 cards). They way she did this was by practicing her memorization skills and associated each card with something from her past. They also had a young man on the show who demonstrated his memorization ability in front of a high school class. His partner put a matrix of 5 rows and 5 columns of numbers. The boy memorized the numbers in less than one minute. His said the way he memorized the numbers was what he did at a particular time. Example would be 820- what did he do at 8:20 this morning. They show concluded that memorization in not only ability but can be improved by placing meaning to the chunk information given. I found this interesting since we are now talking about memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 10 19:26:27 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f47.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.47]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA19301 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:26:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 26721 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2000 02:28:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000311022857.26719.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.10.133.231 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:28:57 PST X-Originating-IP: [12.10.133.231] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Long Term Memory Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:28:57 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 11 11:53:38 2000 Received: from www0b.netaddress.usa.net (www0b.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.31]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06124 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 13486 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Mar 2000 18:56:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20000311185639.13485.qmail@www0b.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.31 by www0b for [216.160.234.220] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Sat Mar 11 18:56:39 GMT 2000 Date: 11 Mar 00 10:56:39 PST From: jeff gratton To: X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id LAA06125 Subject: [Psych3120] state dependent learning In response to Ludwig's multiple personality study re: state dependent learning....When the results showed an increase in errors from alternate personalities than the one that "learned" the task, does that support the validity in claims of multiple personality disorder? I realize that it is a questionable subject in many people's minds, but I am interested in anyone's response to this. It seems like to some people, the results would "prove" that multiple personality disorder is legitimate, but I also picked up on Dr. Strayer's skepticism with his comment about "highly suggestable individuals". If anyone has a thought on this, my e-mail is jeffreynellie@netscape.net. Nellie Haws ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 11 22:16:27 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f269.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.47]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA16824 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:16:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 96112 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2000 05:18:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000312051857.96111.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.217.20 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:18:57 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.217.20] From: "Kristin Paige" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:18:57 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] mneumonics for LTM? The Ashcraft book talks about mneumonics that can be used with short term memory, that also aids in encoding long term memory, but only hints at using something similar in order to fully organize long term memory. I was just wondering if there are any established mneumonics that work to organize long term memory or must it be done subjectively? Has anyone done research on how to aid those "forgetful" individuals so they can remember important things? Kristin Paige ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 12 19:09:49 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f231.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.231]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08152 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:09:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 87537 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2000 02:12:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000313021219.87536.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.79.105.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:12:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [216.79.105.24] From: "Candace Curzon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] context Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:12:19 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I was in the class that had to take the test in the fine arts auditorium. I did ok on the test but maybe I could have done better. I should have taken that up with Dr. Dodd. Candace Curzon >From: Grace7700@aol.com >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] context >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:17:48 EST > >When I took my Psych 101 final a few years ago, there was another Psych 101 >class scheduled for their final at the same time. Both classes had been >held >in the behavioral science auditorium, and one of the classes had to hold >the >final somewhere else. Even though I knew only little about cognitive psych >then, I had learned about the imprortance of context in learning and >testing. > It turned out that my class got to have the final in the behavioral >science >auditorium, instead of the fine arts auditorium. But I wonder what effect >the change in environment might have had on the other class. > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 12 19:27:02 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f141.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.141]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08533 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:27:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 36552 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2000 02:29:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000313022932.36551.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.79.105.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:29:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [216.79.105.24] From: "Candace Curzon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:32 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] context I'm sure that some of you have heard of this study done by Carolyn Collier on the capacity for long term memory in infancy. She attached a mobile to the infants foot for nine minutes. Each time the infant kicks, the mobile moves which reinforces more kicking. They would typically double or triple their kicking rate within 3-6 minutes. The infants are tested at 2 months,3 months, 6months. The mobile is not attached to the foot at 3 and 6 months. If the infant starts kicking when they see the mobile at 3 and 6 that shows that they remembered what happened at 2 months. One of the findings shows how important context is--the infants could not recognize the original mobile if the immediate visual surround had been changed. At six months, the infants only stared at the original mobile without recognizing it only one day after training if the liner draped around their playpens is even slightly different, even though their retention is near perfect for 2 weeks if the original liner is present during testing. Also, if everything is the same during testing as during original encoding but the room in which the reactivation treatment occurs is changed, then the memory will not be recovered. This show that one source of infantile amnesia is contextual change. Context not only controls retrieval of a new momory, but also controls te reactivation of forgotten memories over the long term. I just thought this was interesting. Candace Curzon. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 12 21:30:57 2000 Received: from cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10752 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:30:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from m.cc.utah.edu (pub-dial73.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.75]) by cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA08091 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38CC7BFD.F07D9618@m.cc.utah.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:26:22 -0800 From: Richard John Bell Organization: University of Utah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Richard Bell I am sort of curiouse about people with photographic memories. I ran into the person who is known as rainman. They made a movie about him. Do they have any evidence on how their brain is organized or structured. If so is theur any disadvantages of havining a photographic memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 12 23:14:33 2000 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12529 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:14:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from vaio - 63.24.24.190 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:17:05 -0800 Message-ID: <000501bf8cbf$7bf291c0$be18183f@vaio> From: "Cara Jo" To: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:40:59 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] 7 +/- 2 Our limited capacity in short term memory has been found to attain 7 +/-2 bits of information at a time, this must be restricted to age differences, shouldn't it? Memory has been found to decline with age. Have elderly been tested on the basis of this same theory? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 13 19:52:59 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04250 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:52:58 -0700 (MST) From: JannetteBireley@att.net Received: from william ([12.72.136.67]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000314025527.OKXU377.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:55:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf8d61$8ee3c860$4388480c@william> To: "University of Utah" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:01:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF8D26.E1247600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] Aging and memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF8D26.E1247600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Which aspects of memory are affected during the normal aging process? = What ages are affected if and when declines occur? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF8D26.E1247600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Which aspects of memory are affected during the = normal=20 aging process?  What ages are affected if and when declines=20 occur? 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF8D26.E1247600-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 14 11:40:08 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f185.hotmail.com [209.185.131.248]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20731 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:40:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 5755 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2000 18:42:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000314184237.5754.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.160.250.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:42:37 PST X-Originating-IP: [216.160.250.105] From: "melinda blohm" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:42:37 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] short term memory This is the first message I have sent using the new system so hopefully I am doing this right. I was just wondering exactly how long peices of random information are stored in short term memory, if they are stored at all. Like if I heard on the radio that it was supposed to be 50 degrees today and then I just continued doing what I was doing. I think I would store it so I could remember that but for how long is information like that stored? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 14 11:50:42 2000 Received: from utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com ([204.106.63.61]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21009 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:50:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from 204.106.32.242 by utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com with SMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Tue, 14 Mar 00 11:51:49 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 Received: from FSCNET-Message_Server by mail.fscnet.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:53:36 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:53:25 -0700 From: "Richard Reep" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 14D055CF17912-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id LAA21010 Subject: [Psych3120] Forced Perspective Although we're done with the sections on perception and illusion, I found this interesting. Main Street USA at Disneyland was constructed to force the perspective that while heading north, Main Street USA looks longer, thus incenting guests to hurry faster into the park. When coming from the other direction on your way out of Disneyland, the street appears short and the Main Gate close, this is used to slow guests down on their way out allowing them to do more shopping. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 14 13:24:13 2000 Received: from nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net (wwcst268.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.13]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA24691 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:24:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 6661 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2000 20:26:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000314202643.6660.qmail@nwcst268.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.13 by wwcst268 for [155.99.1.155] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Mar 14 20:26:43 GMT 2000 Date: 14 Mar 00 12:26:43 PST From: jeffrey nolting To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id NAA24692 Subject: [Psych3120] Cell phones and task demands I realize this goes back to an earlier part of the lectures, however in reading the Wickens chapter that manual control may disrupt performance in a task environment imposing heavy demands on spatial working memory (e.g. driving)and voice control may disrupt performance of tasks with heavy verbal demands. I do believe Dr. Strayer's results regarding driving and cell phone usage...I usually experience it whenever I see someone driving and talking on their cell phone and yet I'm curious as to how the mental demands (verbal) demands interfere with those of driving (spatial) demands. Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 14 20:34:31 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02242 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:34:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRG00C0T22J07@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:37:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:37:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:37:24 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id UAA02243 Subject: [Psych3120] Burn the Witch #2 In the game Burn the Witch there were a few factors which seemed to aid in the memory of the stimuli presentation. Each witch was a different color, and each witch made a different sound when "burned". Each of these factors could potentially contribute to the concept of chunking. It would be interesting to see if thre would be any differences if each of the witches were the same color and made the same sound when burned. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 14 20:45:20 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02505 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:45:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRG00C442KK07@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:48:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:48:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:48:10 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id UAA02506 Subject: [Psych3120] Depth of Processing I found it interesting that the deepest level of processing has the best recall. It does make sense that sentences would be easier to recall than structural, phonemic, or categorical because of the context. It amazes me how much context can influence memory. It would be interesting to find out how much of the brain is involved with the storing of the contextual situations involving a memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 15 01:25:38 2000 Received: from gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@gos.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.3]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07376 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:25:37 -0700 (MST) From: r.nagle@m.cc.utah.edu Received: from mike (pub-dial27.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.29]) by gos.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA06586 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:28:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003150828.BAA06586@gos.oz.cc.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:38:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Deja Vu and Memory I don't know how much this has to do with the discussion at hand. But I was just wondering what (if anything) Deja Vu has to do with the things we are talking about. For example, could something be encoded, forgotten and then surface somehow? Or are there any other ways that memory encoding cause or are related to Deja Vu? __________________ This is not a chain letter, do not send this letter to 40 of your friends. Simply delete this letter and go on with your daily life. Russell Nagle r.nagle@m.cc.utah.edu From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 15 11:05:13 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17398 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:05:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18039 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:06:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38CFDEF2.1DFB15F4@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:05:22 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Burn the Witch #2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, this is a good point. A skilled mnemonist would chunk these by using some information that is already in memory. One could imagine an artist chunking witches according to color mixing schemes (ie, red and blue yield violot). A musician might chunk them by grouping the different "notes" of their screams into chords, or meaningful note sequences. The sky is the limit. Wally Sharelle Baldwin wrote: > In the game Burn the Witch there were a few factors which seemed to aid in the memory of the stimuli presentation. Each witch was a different color, and each witch made a different sound when "burned". Each of these factors could potentially contribute to the concept of chunking. It would be interesting to see if thre would be any differences if each of the witches were the same color and made the same sound when burned. > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 15 14:47:13 2000 Received: from venus.gse.utah.edu (venus.gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21371 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:47:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from gse.utah.edu (gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.2]) by venus.gse.utah.edu (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA03382 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:58:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200003152158.OAA03382@venus.gse.utah.edu> Received: from GSE-SOL/SpoolDir by gse.utah.edu (Mercury 1.44); 15 Mar 00 14:53:00 -700 Received: from SpoolDir by GSE-SOL (Mercury 1.44); 15 Mar 00 14:52:39 -700 From: "Bobbi Davis" Organization: Graduate School of Education To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:52:35 MST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Bobbi Davis" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Subject: [Psych3120] Infant Memory One of the major achievement for infants is learning Object Permanence. Knowing that something exists, even out of view leads infants to the ability to "store and recall information from memory." (page 163 Child Development, 3rd Edition, L. A. Sroufe, R.G. Cooper, G.B. Dehart). Many of the studies in this book regarding memory of young infants come to the conclusion that they do form long-term memories, but they may have trouble retrieving them without clear-cut cues, also known as cued recall. (pg. 178). Could this be a major reason even why adults forget? We have stored the information, but have trobule retrieving it without cues. It is until that I see my school books that I remember a paper is due tomorrow. Or when I have a message to call someone, that I remember I needed to call them yesterday. Bobbi Davis From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 15 15:35:12 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (rpn1@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22217 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (rpn1@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02600 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:38:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:38:12 -0700 (MST) From: R Nagle Sender: R.Nagle@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Human Factor Engineering in the News I heard something interesting on CNN this morning, the FAA is worried about human errors that have been causing runway incursions. Meaning two planes using the same runway, or cutting each other off. According to CNN There have been around 650 such occurrences in the past 2 years. Including one where the tower told the plane to take off, and the plane refused because they could see another plane at the end of the runway, possibly saving lives. The FAA had several initiatives they were going to try, to help stop this problem, including continuing to develop surface radar and holding seminars for both pilots and controllers to try and find other ways of to reduce these problems. Both of which seemed to have a lot to do with human factors engineering. This was a very interesting report, considering that we had discussed Human factor engineering only a few class periods before. Russell Nagle "When life gives you lemons, shut up and eat the damn lemons!" From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 15 18:16:54 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25122 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:16:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRH00MLLQD7SB@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:19:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:19:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:19:49 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id SAA25123 Subject: [Psych3120] Note: Strayer or Wally I submited an e-mail to the message board, and my co-worker must not have completely logged out of him e-mail account so my message on Burn the Witch showed up under Jeremy Jordin's name, so I re-wrote the e-mail and renamed it Burn the Witch #2, so disregard the e-mail sent from Jeremy Jordin. Thanks Sharelle Baldwin From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 11:29:02 2000 Received: from venus.gse.utah.edu (venus.gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12764 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:29:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from gse.utah.edu (gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.2]) by venus.gse.utah.edu (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA03651 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:39:53 -0700 Message-Id: <200003161839.LAA03651@venus.gse.utah.edu> Received: from GSE-SOL/SpoolDir by gse.utah.edu (Mercury 1.44); 16 Mar 00 11:34:50 -700 Received: from SpoolDir by GSE-SOL (Mercury 1.44); 16 Mar 00 11:34:27 -700 From: "Bobbi Davis" Organization: Graduate School of Education To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:34:19 MST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Bobbi Davis" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Subject: [Psych3120] Memory and Location I was watching the news this week and it talked about a study in London on their cab/taxi drivers. The researchers did MRI's on the cab drivers and found that they have a larger hippocampus then the non-cab driver population. The researchers believed that the hippocampus aids in location mapping. I remember in a lecture a few weeks ago Dr. Strayer talking of man who had his hippocampus totally removed (if I am remembering right). Anyway, this man could no longer retain short term memory after that. I was wondering how these two functions - location and short term memory - both function in the hippocampus? If I had to take a guess, I would think that the reason these two functions are found in the same region is because without memory function, remembering where a location is at is non-existent. Any other explanations? Bobbi Davis bdavis@gse.utah.edu From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 14:45:51 2000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16344 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:45:51 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.e4.29ff5f7 (3990) for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:48:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:48:11 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Case study This week I have been catching up on some reading and I read the case studies. May be someone can explain to me why Bill had such a hard time with his decision about the supply of electricity. He thought he didn't have enough information to make such a decision about reducing the power, yet he kept listening to Kennedy. Then would return to the fact he felt he didn't have enough information a what should e do. He needed to keep the power supply going, but things just kept getting worse, until he final called his boss. Once he called his boss his was in a panic mode but explained things and his boss helped him at. My question is why didn't he call his boss before he became so overwhelmed by the disruption of electricity? Why did he keep discussing things with Kennedy about things he could do and couldn't do? Was the information or lack of and the situation an overload of tasks that he simply could make a decision the he could trust in himself? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 15:38:29 2000 Received: from hci-mail.hci.utah.edu (hci-mail.hci.utah.edu [155.100.225.48]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17296 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by hci-mail.hci.utah.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2003@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> From: Bronson Bills To: "'psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu'" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:41:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Psych3120] Goodwin (Sober vs. Drunk) Goodwins research relating to learning is very interesting. I could not believe that a person who learns somethings drunk will recall it better drunk than while sober. Similar tests (e.g. underwater vs. land recall and happy vs. sad states) concurred with what Goodwin found. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 15:45:04 2000 Received: from hci-mail.hci.utah.edu (hci-mail.hci.utah.edu [155.100.225.48]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17444 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:45:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by hci-mail.hci.utah.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2004@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> From: Bronson Bills To: "'psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu'" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:48:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Psych3120] Rental Car Out of all the human error case studies, I found the rental car story the most interesting. The interface of the cockpit was so difficult for the pilot to understand that he was attacked by the enemy while tried to figure out how to work the interface. It goes to show how important and requisite it is for such things to be user friendly. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 15:55:06 2000 Received: from hci-mail.hci.utah.edu (hci-mail.hci.utah.edu [155.100.225.48]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17662 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:55:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by hci-mail.hci.utah.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:58:06 -0700 Message-ID: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2005@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> From: Bronson Bills To: "'psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu'" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:58:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Psych3120] physiological measures I found it very interesting the methods used to measure mental workland, especially those involving physiological measures. These measures are used to be sensitive to mental not physical workload. It is interesting that a physiological measurement can produce information relating to mental workload. Heart rates, ERP's and the size of one's pupil all are physiological responses caused by mental workload. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 16 16:05:33 2000 Received: from hci-mail.hci.utah.edu (hci-mail.hci.utah.edu [155.100.225.48]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17946 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:05:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by hci-mail.hci.utah.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:08:33 -0700 Message-ID: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2006@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> From: Bronson Bills To: "'psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu'" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:08:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Psych3120] method of loci I found the discussion on mnemonics very interesting, especially the section dealing with the method of loci. I have never heard of this method of recall nor do I know anyone who has ever used it, however, I tried using it the other day instead of writing a list of things to do, and the results were not to bad. Some of the the things I had to do that day were send in two bills, wash my car, return two library books and go to my brothers baseball game. I imagined a common scene and placed items in that scene which related to my tasks. This technique is successful because of its distintiveness and bizareness, because of the latter facts my to do list was vivid and in the forefront of my mind. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 17 11:45:36 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (jtk3@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08414 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:45:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jtk3@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13435 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:48:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:48:35 -0700 (MST) From: T Kilgore Sender: T.Kilgore@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] method of loci I have just been trying the method of loci experiment in the book and found it to be more time consuming and less effective than other forms or mnemonic devices. It was harder for me to remember that the phone was over the psychology building's main door than it was for me to just remember that I had to call my professor?? I know it's suppose to retain it in my long term store better but what if I only want to remember the information for the afternoon. I'd hate to look at the psychology building or some real world setting in my everyday life and have it distorted by some bizarre mental image that I used to remember a few important things one day. ANy suggesstions? Another mnemonic perhaps that will be good for retrieval but not so salient in context over time. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 17 14:21:16 2000 Received: from slcc.edu (mail.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.196]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11202 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:21:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from GROUP001-Message_Server by slcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:27:01 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:23:43 -0700 From: Karen Pratt To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Case study Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I think that the guy just got way too stressed out and couldn't do anything. I worked with a girl like that once. If there was a problem she would just keep calling people and telling them about it but would never do anything about it. It was like once she got into that mode she couldn't do anything. >>> 03/16 2:48 PM >>> This week I have been catching up on some reading and I read the case studies. May be someone can explain to me why Bill had such a hard time with his decision about the supply of electricity. He thought he didn't have enough information to make such a decision about reducing the power, yet he kept listening to Kennedy. Then would return to the fact he felt he didn't have enough information a what should e do. He needed to keep the power supply going, but things just kept getting worse, until he final called his boss. Once he called his boss his was in a panic mode but explained things and his boss helped him at. My question is why didn't he call his boss before he became so overwhelmed by the disruption of electricity? Why did he keep discussing things with Kennedy about things he could do and couldn't do? Was the information or lack of and the situation an overload of tasks that he simply could make a decision the he could trust in himself? _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 17 19:24:10 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f239.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.239]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA16564 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:24:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3299 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2000 02:26:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000318022640.3298.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.215.90 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:26:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.215.90] From: "Kristin Paige" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:26:40 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Memory recall and alcohol I saw a little news blurb today that discussed a new study that was investigating the effects of alcohol on memory recall. The news said that the study showed that college students who use alcohol have a harder time recalling information than non-drinking students. Of course, the news didn't give very many details and left me with a lot of questions. I was just wondering if these results could be because of the learning association suggested by Goodwin, or if there is evidence that alcohol and drugs damage the parts of the brain associated with memory and/or recall? Kristin Paige ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 18 08:31:55 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00345 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:31:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 8:34:46 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 18 Mar 00 08:34:17 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 18 Mar 00 08:33:51 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:33:42 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal In-reply-to: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2006@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <35CAAFD6E8F@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> Subject: [Psych3120] memory I found the discussions on memory and the processes used to encode information to be most interesting. There is also another way I learned to memorize information that is particularly useful for essays or groups of information. When studying a topic, assign each main point a symbol such as :-) or a letter or any other symbol that one can think of. This way, while studying, one only has to look at the symbol to remember the whole message that the symbol represents. On the essay, write down all the symbols associated with that essay at the start and one will remember all that one studied to write down on the essay. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 18 08:34:23 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00389 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:34:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 8:37:14 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 18 Mar 00 08:36:45 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 18 Mar 00 08:36:20 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:36:11 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal In-reply-to: <7EB0D6E880DAD211988E00A0C9DEF1DD011F2006@hci-mail.hci.utah.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <35CB58C61D4@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> Subject: [Psych3120] encoding techniques For my Research Methods class we each had to do a psych test and reseach that area. The one that I chose was memory and encoding techniques. It was amazing to see that many of the conclusions I drew from the studied mirrored exactly what Dr. Strayer pointed out in class as well as what the Greeks knew about 3,000 years ago. Just goes to show you, we really haven't changed as much as we would like to think so. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 18 14:54:50 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07229 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:54:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29539 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:56:07 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D40947.BFCDAA3E@psych.utah.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:55:03 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Memory and Location References: <200003161839.LAA03651@venus.gse.utah.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to clarify, H.M.'s deficit was with long-term memory, rather than short-term. He is capable of carrying on a conversation, or of remembering things for short periods of time if left undistracted - both of which rely on short-term memory. However, formation of new, permanent long-term memories is impaired. Thus, the hippocampus presumably plays a role in consolidating new memories into episodic and/or semantic memory. As for the connection between LTM and spatial memory, there are a lot of theories... One is that different brain areas consolidate different attributes of memory. Thus, the hippocampus is important for storing some features like spatial location, but not all features. Of course, there's not yet any universal agreement... Interesting aside - This hippocampal size difference can also be seen in different animal species. Those species who rely on caching food (squirrels for instance) tend to have larger hippocampal volume than those who don't, since they need to remember locations of caches to survive... Pretty cool, huh? Wally Bobbi Davis wrote: > I was watching the news this week and it talked about a > study in London on their cab/taxi drivers. The > researchers did MRI's on the cab drivers and found that > they have a larger hippocampus then the non-cab driver population. > The researchers believed that the hippocampus aids in location > mapping. I remember in a lecture a few weeks ago Dr. Strayer talking > of man who had his hippocampus totally removed (if I am remembering > right). Anyway, this man could no longer retain short term memory > after that. I was wondering how these two functions - location and > short term memory - both function in the hippocampus? If I had to > take a guess, I would think that the reason these two functions are > found in the same region is because without memory function, > remembering where a location is at is non-existent. Any other > explanations? > Bobbi Davis > bdavis@gse.utah.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 18 15:02:42 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07442 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:02:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29806 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:03:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D40B20.4484B293@psych.utah.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:02:56 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] method of loci References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of these mnemonics simply take some time and practice to utilize effectively. In time, you figure out what works for you and what doesn't. Obviously, if something is confusing, like in your example, it's probably not the best one to use - try some others and see what works, or try using it a little differently. In my experience, it's best to connect information with something that's already strongly established in your memory, and that won't lead to confusion. As an example, I'm a big baseball fan, so I use that as a strongly established memory system to work from. I might use a method of loci technique that pairs up items with spots in a batting order, or fielding positions, or even years that a particular team on the world series. This example won't work for everyone, but most people should be able to come up with something similar based on whatever they know best. Wally T Kilgore wrote: > I have just been trying the method of loci experiment in the book > and found it to be more time consuming and less effective than other forms > or mnemonic devices. It was harder for me to remember that the phone was > over the psychology building's main door than it was for me to just > remember that I had to call my professor?? I know it's suppose to retain > it in my long term store better but what if I only want to remember the > information for the afternoon. I'd hate to look at the psychology > building or some real world setting in my everyday life and have it > distorted by some bizarre mental image that I used to remember a few > important things one day. ANy suggesstions? Another mnemonic perhaps > that will be good for retrieval but not so salient in context over time. > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 18 17:52:19 2000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10361 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:52:18 -0700 (MST) From: AYELEL@aol.com Received: from AYELEL@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.b9.1869e3a (7382) for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:54:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:54:40 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] Effects of rehearsal I'm having a somewhat difficult time understanding what Dr. Strayer said in lecture about the primacy and recency effects. In my notes, I wrote that primacy is determined by transfer to LTM, and recency is determined by readout from STM. I'm not really sure what this means. I think that for primacy, the longer the information is worked on and rehearsed, the more likely it is to be transferred into LTM, thus causing a primacy effect. But as for the recency being determined by readout from STM- I'm not clear about that. Does that mean that whatever the brain is working on right now would be the readout, and therefore is easy to remember? If someone can explain the distinction to me, I appreciate it. -ally longworth -ayelel@aol.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 19 20:33:37 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f34.hotmail.com [209.185.131.97]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA07643 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:33:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 52813 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2000 03:36:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000320033605.52812.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.224.210.91 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:36:05 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.224.210.91] From: "melinda blohm" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:36:05 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] photographic memory I was wondering how people with photographic memories remember everything exactly how it is. Do they process everything at a deeper level than I do or is there more to it than that? What about people like rainman who just don't forget anything (was he autistic?)? I need to learn their trick!! Also to Wally or Dr. Strayer, my name on my e-mail account is my maiden name. In the computer it reads Melinda Blohm, but you know me as Melinda Telford. Sorry for any inconvenience. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 19 23:34:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.109]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10733 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:34:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 483 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2000 06:37:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000320063719.482.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.251.90 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:37:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.251.90] From: "matt anderson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:37:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] state dependent learning I learned about state dependent learning in a psychology class a couple years ago. Ever since then I chew gum while I am studying and while I take tests. I'm not sure how much good it does in helping me remember the things I studied, but it's turned into a pretty expensive study tool. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 01:04:38 2000 Received: from mail.smartfella.com ([63.77.48.151]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12320 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:04:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.smartfella.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:53 -0700 Received: from njtcom.com [207.173.167.219] by mail.smartfella.com [63.77.48.151] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with ESMTP id B1F76057FDF611D38AED004F4E009AE0 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:06:52 -0700 Message-ID: <38D5CFF3.81FCF5A@njtcom.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:15:00 -0700 From: luana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SLUIDL: ACED8930-FDF611D3-8AED004F-4E009AE0 Subject: [Psych3120] Multiple Resource Theory, Driving and Cellular phones While I was explaining to a friend that talking on the phone while driving can be dangerous, he asked me how come that listening to the radio does not affect driving in the same way. I recognize that, even though I could use the research results to "prove" him that the two cases are different, I didn't feel comfortable in my attempt to give him an explanation for this. I read about the Multiple Resource Theory and the three dichotomous dimensions, and I think that I might understand the difference between the effects of the radio compared to the ones of talking on the phone. It is true that both the radio and the phone solicit our attention (especially if on the radio are transmitted some interesting news), but I think that the radio's demands are (mainly) perceptual while the phone talking's demands are perceptual+ response. The conflict between driving and talking appears when something unexpected happens on the road and we need to *react* fast, so driving requires available response resources. In this case, we have a powerful interference coming from the two tasks because their demands overlap. Listening to the radio does not affect response while talking on the phone competes with driving for the response resources. Could this be a good explanation? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 10:30:00 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f196.hotmail.com [209.185.130.106]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22093 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:30:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 52486 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2000 17:32:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000320173228.52485.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:32:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.133] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:32:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) I find the subject of contextual learning extremely interesting. (hence the amount of messages that i have posted...) My questio is in regards to a fellow students theory of chewing gum and studying. He believes that when he chews gum while preparing for a test that his recall for the stest will be alot better if he is chewing gum. Could something as insignificant as chewing gum effect memroy recall, or are more evident contexts such as environment have play a much larger role cognitively when recalling info? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 17:49:15 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f277.hotmail.com [209.185.130.193]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29992 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:49:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 95748 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 00:51:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321005143.95747.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.51 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:51:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.51] From: "david ryan" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:51:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] memory At the beginning of chapter five in Ashcraft, E.F. Lofus is quoted as saying the following: "We must never underestimate one of the most obvious reasons for forgetting, namely, that the information was never stored in memory in the first place." Is there a specific process of storing information in memory, and if so what is it? Must there always be a conscious effort to store information? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 17:50:30 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f257.hotmail.com [209.185.130.173]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA00115 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:50:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 44251 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 00:52:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321005258.44250.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.51 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:52:58 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.51] From: "david ryan" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:52:58 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] modes of learning credit Does anyone know what the requirement is for receiving modes of learning credit? Is there a certain number of posted messages required? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 17:51:12 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00177 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:51:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [206.133.226.114] (sdn-ar-003utslciP202.dialsprint.net [206.133.226.114]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24774 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003210054.QAA24774@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:55:00 -0700 From: "Matthew Ross" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] parrot memory I was watching a show the other day that addressed the question of how smart animals are. On the show, there was a parrot that had over a hundred word vocabulary. It could not only identify objects by name, but it could also answer questions about them. For example, when shown a large green key and a small blue key and asked which one is bigger it would correctly respond green. I was wondering if this parrot is actually working out the answers to the questions or if it has just memorized what it's trainer said and is blindly repeating it? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 23:39:42 2000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (web802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.62]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA06158 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:39:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 25278 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2000 06:42:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321064240.25277.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.252.236] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:42:40 PST Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:42:40 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Clark To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] weed and memory I know Marijuana effects memory , but does it mess up how you encode things or how you retrieve them. I've also noticed that long time smokers seem to be a little slower in speech, so is there long term damge to the memory system or is just the culture. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 20 23:46:11 2000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA06373 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:46:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24874 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2000 06:49:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321064909.24873.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.252.236] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:49:09 PST Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:49:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Clark To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] parrot memory I found Matt's contribution very interesting and I wonder how animal's memory and intelligence relates to training animals. Are theories of cognition applicable to animals? My girlfriend's dog does all kinds of tricks, is he smarter or just better trained than my parents dog that still won't sit, stay, or not jump on people. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:05:16 2000 Received: from mail.smartfella.com ([63.77.48.151]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15962 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:05:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.smartfella.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:38:21 -0700 Received: from njtcom.com [207.173.167.40] by mail.smartfella.com [63.77.48.151] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with ESMTP id B1F769AEFDF611D38AED004F4E009AE0 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:38:20 -0700 Message-ID: <38D78B49.8AB7331@njtcom.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:46:34 -0700 From: luana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SLUIDL: ACED9EC9-FDF611D3-8AED004F-4E009AE0 Subject: [Psych3120] Photographic memory Regarding Melinda's question about photographic memory... I can't speak for all the cases, but I know that I had classmates or friends who had an extraordinary photographic memory. It would have been suficient for them to read the material just once and they would have been capable to tell you the exact position on the page of any word, everything in much detail. Unfortunately, many of them didn't do anything in addition to this. We were studying math or physics with long demonstrations and it was sad in a way to see that, while their "performance" was high, they didn't understand anything from the material. This situation raises the question if memory, even very useful, is really a part of intelligence: you have these people with perfect memories who don't really know what to do with them, while you see others whom we might consider "forgetful", but who come up with brilliant solutions. There are also controversies about how people should be tested, especially the ones involved in a higher level of education, how to discriminate between the "plain" memory and the ability to use it, integrate it, etc. Reading the material on the short memory, I think that the most relevant part of STM from the perspective of intelligence is the Central Executive. Having a great "slave" like the visuo-spatial sketchpad (useful in the photographic memory) is only a small part of the problem. The essence -in my view- is the reasoning that comes into the picture once you get the information, what connections you make with the long term memory, the understanding, the place (in LTM) you choose for the new data. In other words, the reasoning part is -in my view- what makes the difference between information and knowledge. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:30:38 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16525 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:30:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03954 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:31:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D7B1CB.CFB10F6D@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:30:51 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Photographic memory References: <38D78B49.8AB7331@njtcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These are good points, and important to cognitive psychology. Just to connect things up with the industry label, the understanding of your own memory and how it works is usually referred to as "metamemory", and is as you point out, just as vital to performance as memory itself! Wally luana wrote: > Regarding Melinda's question about photographic memory... > > I can't speak for all the cases, but I know that I had classmates or > friends who had an extraordinary photographic memory. It would have been > suficient for them to read the material just once and they would have > been capable to tell you the exact position on the page of any word, > everything in much detail. Unfortunately, many of them didn't do > anything in addition to this. We were studying math or physics with long > demonstrations and it was sad in a way to see that, while their > "performance" was high, they didn't understand anything from the > material. > This situation raises the question if memory, even very useful, is > really a part of intelligence: you have these people with perfect > memories who don't really know what to do with them, while you see > others whom we might consider "forgetful", but who come up with > brilliant solutions. > There are also controversies about how people should be tested, > especially the ones involved in a higher level of education, how to > discriminate between the "plain" memory and the ability to use it, > integrate it, etc. > > Reading the material on the short memory, I think that the most relevant > part of STM from the perspective of intelligence is the Central > Executive. Having a great "slave" like the visuo-spatial sketchpad > (useful in the photographic memory) is only a small part of the problem. > The essence -in my view- is the reasoning that comes into the picture > once you get the information, what connections you make with the long > term memory, the understanding, the place (in LTM) you choose for the > new data. > In other words, the reasoning part is -in my view- what makes the > difference between information and knowledge. > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:37:08 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16668 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:37:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04591 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:38:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D7B353.6A9A74B2@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:37:23 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] parrot memory References: <20000321064909.24873.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now you've gotten me started. This is one of my favorite topics in cognitive psychology - comparative cognition. I tend to beleive that most of the things that we cover in this class can be applied, to some extent, to animals (though this must be done carefully!) However, not everyone beleives this. There are many who view animals as passive responders to the environment. That is, that there is a stimulus and a response, but no cognition in between. Which is right? That's impossible to prove definitively... Before I ramble too long, anyone else have any thoughts on this? Wally Sean Clark wrote: > I found Matt's contribution very interesting and I > wonder how animal's memory and intelligence relates to > training animals. Are theories of cognition > applicable to animals? My girlfriend's dog does all > kinds of tricks, is he smarter or just better trained > than my parents dog that still won't sit, stay, or not > jump on people. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:38:30 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16719 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:38:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04762 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:39:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D7B3A5.EE1632B7@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:38:45 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] modes of learning credit References: <20000321005258.44250.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The rule of thumb is about 1 substantive message per week. As long as you keep up on the board, and try to be a regular contrubutor, it shouldn't be a problem. Wally david ryan wrote: > Does anyone know what the requirement is for receiving modes of learning > credit? Is there a certain number of posted messages required? > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:43:17 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16849 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:43:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05330 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:44:36 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D7B4C4.DB9C1F5F@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:43:32 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] parrot memory References: <200003210054.QAA24774@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pretty sure this is Alex, Irene Pepperberg's african grey parrot - somewhat of a celebrity in the field. Most indications would suggest Alex is actually figuring out the answers, and not simply associating a stimulus with a response - based on the flexibility he displays. For example, "which one is blue?" would draw a different answer, depending on which objects are presented to Alex (or even the response "none" if you try to trick him and show no blue objects!). Same stimulus - different response, which would be tough if he weren't processing object information. But again, not impossible for a clever behaviorist to explain. Wally Matthew Ross wrote: > I was watching a show the other day that addressed the question of how smart > animals are. On the show, there was a parrot that had over a hundred word > vocabulary. It could not only identify objects by name, but it could also > answer questions about them. For example, when shown a large green key and > a small blue key and asked which one is bigger it would correctly respond > green. I was wondering if this parrot is actually working out the answers > to the questions or if it has just memorized what it's trainer said and is > blindly repeating it? > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 09:55:57 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17144 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:55:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07751 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:57:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D7B7BD.A112F117@psych.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:56:13 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Effects of rehearsal References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, since nobody jumped on this one... The recency effect is assumed to reflect STM because when you reach the end of the list (assuming recall is directly after the list is read), the items at the end will still be in STM. The items at the beginning - assuming the list is longer than 7 +/- 2 will have been forced out of STM by newer info. So, a common strategy is to just write down the items you just heard before they leave STM, then go back and retrieve ones from LTM, which are just as easy to do later. If you recalled the early (LTM) items first, the newer items would no longer be available in STM... Wally AYELEL@aol.com wrote: > I'm having a somewhat difficult time understanding what Dr. Strayer said in > lecture about the primacy and recency effects. In my notes, I wrote that > primacy is determined by transfer to LTM, and recency is determined by > readout from STM. I'm not really sure what this means. I think that for > primacy, the longer the information is worked on and rehearsed, the more > likely it is to be transferred into LTM, thus causing a primacy effect. But > as for the recency being determined by readout from STM- I'm not clear about > that. Does that mean that whatever the brain is working on right now would be > the readout, and therefore is easy to remember? If someone can explain the > distinction to me, I appreciate it. > -ally longworth > -ayelel@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 12:17:58 2000 Received: from venus.gse.utah.edu (venus.gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19742 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:17:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from gse.utah.edu (gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.2]) by venus.gse.utah.edu (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA05546 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:27:55 -0700 Message-Id: <200003211927.MAA05546@venus.gse.utah.edu> Received: from GSE-SOL/SpoolDir by gse.utah.edu (Mercury 1.44); 21 Mar 00 12:23:51 -700 Received: from SpoolDir by GSE-SOL (Mercury 1.44); 21 Mar 00 12:23:24 -700 From: "Bobbi Davis" Organization: Graduate School of Education To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:23:15 MST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Bobbi Davis" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Subject: [Psych3120] all nodes lead to you Along the lines of Collins & Quillinas nodes theory, has it been used to help such therapies as cognitive behavioral therapy? The nodes theory could be very useful in helping those with depression who might be caught in a cycle of activated nodes which may lead to depression. Has anything like this been done, and if so what is the outcome? Is the nodes theory part of the cognitive behavioral therapy process at all, or am I way off base? Bobbi Davis bdavis@gse.utah.edu From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 12:38:32 2000 Received: from utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com ([204.106.63.61]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20178 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:38:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from 204.106.32.242 by utcobsmtp02.fscnet.com with SMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Tue, 21 Mar 00 12:39:29 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 Received: from FSCNET-Message_Server by mail.fscnet.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:41:29 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:41:19 -0700 From: "Richard Reep" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 14C9107B4928-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id MAA20179 Subject: [Psych3120] Spreading Activation The network idea of spreading activation, that one concept will partially activate related concepts, sounds like the functional idea behind the Psychodynamic method of Free Association. Any thoughts? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 12:59:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f279.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.57]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20576 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:59:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 54641 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 20:02:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321200219.54640.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:02:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.58] From: "brian Peterson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:02:19 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] re robandadria@yahoo.com for 0307 this is in reply to robandadria@yahoo.com 0307 posting about seeing apple and where info about apple is taken from. Info about the apple seen as visual stimulas would likely come from a neural pathway called the ventral stream located in the temporal lobe. this sends info about object recognition what things are. The thalmus located at the top of the brainstem is the control station that takes stimulas information to the necessary parts of the brain and also gets feedback about that info and sends it to where it needs to go so that you can say to yourself that is an apple. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 13:06:26 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f222.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.222]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20808 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:06:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 2427 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 20:08:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321200854.2426.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:08:54 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.58] From: "brian Peterson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:08:54 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] memory mnemonics we learned several methods for transfering info to ltm. these methods are effective as can be seen from experimenting. my only critism is that these methods deal with list memory (memorizing a list of items) only. there is not that much praticality to list memory for college students however. we must often remember detailed concepts, principles and textbookish ideas and definitions. these things are much different that lists of words. are there any good memory techniques that apply better to broad or detailed concpets-things much more complex than lists? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 13:10:07 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f182.hotmail.com [209.185.131.245]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20885 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:10:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 51408 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 20:12:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321201232.51406.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:12:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.43] From: "david ryan" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:12:32 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] to walter or dr. strayer I just wanted to let you know that my name as it appears in my emails is David Ryan, while your records have David Green. I will try to remember to sign it as David Green, but wanted to make sure i get credit for the last few messages sent. Thank you. David Green >From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #19 - 11 msgs >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:00:08 -0700 (MST) > > >Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. memory (david ryan) > 2. modes of learning credit (david ryan) > 3. parrot memory (Matthew Ross) > 4. weed and memory (Sean Clark) > 5. parrot memory (Sean Clark) > 6. Photographic memory (luana) > 7. Re: Photographic memory (Walter Herbranson) > 8. Re: parrot memory (Walter Herbranson) > 9. Re: modes of learning credit (Walter Herbranson) > 10. Re: parrot memory (Walter Herbranson) > 11. Re: Effects of rehearsal (Walter Herbranson) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "david ryan" >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:51:43 PST >Subject: [Psych3120] memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >At the beginning of chapter five in Ashcraft, E.F. Lofus is quoted as >saying >the following: "We must never underestimate one of the most obvious reasons >for forgetting, namely, that the information was never stored in memory in >the first place." Is there a specific process of storing information in >memory, and if so what is it? Must there always be a conscious effort to >store information? >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "david ryan" >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:52:58 PST >Subject: [Psych3120] modes of learning credit >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >Does anyone know what the requirement is for receiving modes of learning >credit? Is there a certain number of posted messages required? >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:55:00 -0700 >From: "Matthew Ross" >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] parrot memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I was watching a show the other day that addressed the question of how >smart >animals are. On the show, there was a parrot that had over a hundred word >vocabulary. It could not only identify objects by name, but it could also >answer questions about them. For example, when shown a large green key and >a small blue key and asked which one is bigger it would correctly respond >green. I was wondering if this parrot is actually working out the answers >to the questions or if it has just memorized what it's trainer said and is >blindly repeating it? > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:42:40 -0800 (PST) >From: Sean Clark >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] weed and memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I know Marijuana effects memory , but does it mess up >how you encode things or how you retrieve them. I've >also noticed that long time smokers seem to be a >little slower in speech, so is there long term damge >to the memory system or is just the culture. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:49:09 -0800 (PST) >From: Sean Clark >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] parrot memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I found Matt's contribution very interesting and I >wonder how animal's memory and intelligence relates to >training animals. Are theories of cognition >applicable to animals? My girlfriend's dog does all >kinds of tricks, is he smarter or just better trained >than my parents dog that still won't sit, stay, or not >jump on people. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:46:34 -0700 >From: luana >To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" >Subject: [Psych3120] Photographic memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > >Regarding Melinda's question about photographic memory... > >I can't speak for all the cases, but I know that I had classmates or >friends who had an extraordinary photographic memory. It would have been >suficient for them to read the material just once and they would have >been capable to tell you the exact position on the page of any word, >everything in much detail. Unfortunately, many of them didn't do >anything in addition to this. We were studying math or physics with long >demonstrations and it was sad in a way to see that, while their >"performance" was high, they didn't understand anything from the >material. >This situation raises the question if memory, even very useful, is >really a part of intelligence: you have these people with perfect >memories who don't really know what to do with them, while you see >others whom we might consider "forgetful", but who come up with >brilliant solutions. >There are also controversies about how people should be tested, >especially the ones involved in a higher level of education, how to >discriminate between the "plain" memory and the ability to use it, >integrate it, etc. > >Reading the material on the short memory, I think that the most relevant >part of STM from the perspective of intelligence is the Central >Executive. Having a great "slave" like the visuo-spatial sketchpad >(useful in the photographic memory) is only a small part of the problem. >The essence -in my view- is the reasoning that comes into the picture >once you get the information, what connections you make with the long >term memory, the understanding, the place (in LTM) you choose for the >new data. >In other words, the reasoning part is -in my view- what makes the >difference between information and knowledge. > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:30:51 -0700 >From: Walter Herbranson >Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Photographic memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >These are good points, and important to cognitive psychology. Just to >connect things up with the industry label, the understanding of your own >memory and how it works is usually referred to as "metamemory", and is as >you point out, just as vital to performance as memory itself! >Wally > > >luana wrote: > > > Regarding Melinda's question about photographic memory... > > > > I can't speak for all the cases, but I know that I had classmates or > > friends who had an extraordinary photographic memory. It would have been > > suficient for them to read the material just once and they would have > > been capable to tell you the exact position on the page of any word, > > everything in much detail. Unfortunately, many of them didn't do > > anything in addition to this. We were studying math or physics with long > > demonstrations and it was sad in a way to see that, while their > > "performance" was high, they didn't understand anything from the > > material. > > This situation raises the question if memory, even very useful, is > > really a part of intelligence: you have these people with perfect > > memories who don't really know what to do with them, while you see > > others whom we might consider "forgetful", but who come up with > > brilliant solutions. > > There are also controversies about how people should be tested, > > especially the ones involved in a higher level of education, how to > > discriminate between the "plain" memory and the ability to use it, > > integrate it, etc. > > > > Reading the material on the short memory, I think that the most relevant > > part of STM from the perspective of intelligence is the Central > > Executive. Having a great "slave" like the visuo-spatial sketchpad > > (useful in the photographic memory) is only a small part of the problem. > > The essence -in my view- is the reasoning that comes into the picture > > once you get the information, what connections you make with the long > > term memory, the understanding, the place (in LTM) you choose for the > > new data. > > In other words, the reasoning part is -in my view- what makes the > > difference between information and knowledge. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Psych3120 mailing list > > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:37:23 -0700 >From: Walter Herbranson >Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] parrot memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >Now you've gotten me started. This is one of my favorite topics in >cognitive psychology - comparative cognition. I tend to beleive that >most of the things that we cover in this class can be applied, to some >extent, to animals (though this must be done carefully!) However, not >everyone beleives this. There are many who view animals as passive >responders to the environment. That is, that there is a stimulus and a >response, but no cognition in between. Which is right? That's >impossible to prove definitively... Before I ramble too long, anyone >else have any thoughts on this? >Wally > > >Sean Clark wrote: > > > I found Matt's contribution very interesting and I > > wonder how animal's memory and intelligence relates to > > training animals. Are theories of cognition > > applicable to animals? My girlfriend's dog does all > > kinds of tricks, is he smarter or just better trained > > than my parents dog that still won't sit, stay, or not > > jump on people. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Psych3120 mailing list > > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:38:45 -0700 >From: Walter Herbranson >Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] modes of learning credit >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >The rule of thumb is about 1 substantive message per week. As long as you >keep up on the board, and try to be a regular contrubutor, it shouldn't be >a >problem. >Wally > > >david ryan wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the requirement is for receiving modes of learning > > credit? Is there a certain number of posted messages required? > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Psych3120 mailing list > > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:43:32 -0700 >From: Walter Herbranson >Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] parrot memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I'm pretty sure this is Alex, Irene Pepperberg's african grey parrot - >somewhat >of a celebrity in the field. Most indications would suggest Alex is >actually >figuring out the answers, and not simply associating a stimulus with a >response >- based on the flexibility he displays. For example, "which one is blue?" >would >draw a different answer, depending on which objects are presented to Alex >(or >even the response "none" if you try to trick him and show no blue >objects!). >Same stimulus - different response, which would be tough if he weren't >processing object information. But again, not impossible for a clever >behaviorist to explain. >Wally > > >Matthew Ross wrote: > > > I was watching a show the other day that addressed the question of how >smart > > animals are. On the show, there was a parrot that had over a hundred >word > > vocabulary. It could not only identify objects by name, but it could >also > > answer questions about them. For example, when shown a large green key >and > > a small blue key and asked which one is bigger it would correctly >respond > > green. I was wondering if this parrot is actually working out the >answers > > to the questions or if it has just memorized what it's trainer said and >is > > blindly repeating it? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Psych3120 mailing list > > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:56:13 -0700 >From: Walter Herbranson >Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Effects of rehearsal >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >Ok, since nobody jumped on this one... The recency effect is assumed to >reflect >STM because when you reach the end of the list (assuming recall is directly >after >the list is read), the items at the end will still be in STM. The items at >the >beginning - assuming the list is longer than 7 +/- 2 will have been forced >out of >STM by newer info. So, a common strategy is to just write down the items >you >just heard before they leave STM, then go back and retrieve ones from LTM, >which >are just as easy to do later. If you recalled the early (LTM) items first, >the >newer items would no longer be available in STM... >Wally > > >AYELEL@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm having a somewhat difficult time understanding what Dr. Strayer said >in > > lecture about the primacy and recency effects. In my notes, I wrote that > > primacy is determined by transfer to LTM, and recency is determined by > > readout from STM. I'm not really sure what this means. I think that for > > primacy, the longer the information is worked on and rehearsed, the more > > likely it is to be transferred into LTM, thus causing a primacy effect. >But > > as for the recency being determined by readout from STM- I'm not clear >about > > that. Does that mean that whatever the brain is working on right now >would be > > the readout, and therefore is easy to remember? If someone can explain >the > > distinction to me, I appreciate it. > > -ally longworth > > -ayelel@aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Psych3120 mailing list > > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >End of Psych3120 Digest ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 13:29:51 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f32.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.32]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21254 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:29:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 44876 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 20:32:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321203219.44875.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:32:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.58] From: "brian Peterson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:32:19 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] re hotmommamb@htomail.com 0314 reply to hotmommamb@htomail.com 0314 info does not stay in our short term memory for very long due to mostly interference of new info coming in and taking up capacity. dr strayer commented that without rehearsal or techniques to put the info int longterm memory the info usually for 15-20 seconds. several factors contribute to info being stored into longterm memory. if the info is important say you were going to go running that day and the weather or temp outside is important to that activity you may put the temperature info you heard on the radio into longterm memory without even knowing it and may be able to recall what the temperature was supposed to be later in the day or when you are ready to go running. selective attention helps decide what is important and what is not. bristat@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 13:59:27 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f124.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.124]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21835 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:59:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 15046 invoked by uid 0); 21 Mar 2000 21:01:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000321210154.15045.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.110.250 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:01:54 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.110.250] From: "Ryan Cragun" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:01:54 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] RE:Parrot Memory by Wally I took a class in Cognitive Psychology from Dr. Friedrich wherein we discussed the quesiton of animal consciousness. We never came up with an answer (kind of like what you mentioned, the answer may never come), but it was a fascinating discussion. It seemed as though the key revolved around one's definition of consciousness. She had us read a paper on a robot that had been created that would run from someone that was trying to damage it, that would leak lubricant fluid if hit and also whimper like an animal when hurt. The creator of the robot had a friend try to destroy it with a hammer but the friend couldn't do it because he felt like he was killing a living creature. He was a psychologist and knew that the robot was just a machine, but because it responded to him, it was very difficult to hurt or kill. This was one of the papers Fran (Dr. Friedrich) used to argue that animals may have a degree of consciousness because they do respond to their environment. It is a fascinating question: whether animals have conscious thought process or not. Could it just be that they level of attention/conscious thought is much smaller than humans or focused differently? Wally Wrote: Now you've gotten me started. This is one of my favorite topics in cognitive psychology - comparative cognition. I tend to beleive that most of the things that we cover in this class can be applied, to some extent, to animals (though this must be done carefully!) However, not everyone beleives this. There are many who view animals as passive responders to the environment. That is, that there is a stimulus and a response, but no cognition in between. Which is right? That's impossible to prove definitively... Before I ramble too long, anyone else have any thoughts on this? Wally ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 14:49:43 2000 Received: from yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22724 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:49:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [128.110.194.170] ([128.110.194.170]) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA08632 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:52:41 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: tlk1@u.cc.utah.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:52:36 -0700 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: Tyler Keate Subject: [Psych3120] T.V. Adds I have always wished I had a photographic memory. I am fascinated with those that can recall so much information so fast. I work in a lab with a guy that can read very complex papers so fast and remember everything he's read. A few years ago I saw a add on t.v. a guy claimed that you could increase your capacity to remember names and remember what you have just read by following his simple step he explained on a tape. I believe it was $49.99 or something like that. He would ask everyone's name in the audience and only hear their names once, he could then repeat every person's name. I was amazed. He had someone that had bought his course and completed it come out and do the same thing. How do they do it? I guess they must use some kind of mnemonic or chunking of some kind. I would like to see if the people all changed seats the next day how well he could do. I don't think he could have done very well, but maybe he would have. Are most of these memory enhancements just gimics or are some for real? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 15:53:01 2000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23927 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:53:01 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.39.2aca677 (3311) for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:55:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <39.2aca677.260957d6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:55:18 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] vision & age/old drivers!! Although we have already talked about vision I thought this was an interesting article in the Salt Lake Tribune today. A study conducted at the U saw a relationship between the aging brain and the ability to see. It seems our eyes may not be what is actually going bad but age related changes in your brain. "If you have perfectly good vision when you are 80, you will pass your driver's test, but you many not drive as well" (now we now why they're may be old people driving who shouldn't be). It appears that the brain's visual cortex is less able to distinguish shapes and the direction of objects in motion, so says professor Audie Leventhal. The study shows that, regardless of eye damage, the cells in your visual cortex that help you understand what you are see don't work as well when you get old. Seems most research on aging has focused on diseases, not on normal changes with age, and on what goes wrong in sensory organs, not in the parts of the brain that control the senses . It goes on to say that in monkeys, the aging brain has more trouble interpreting what the eyes see, even when the eyes remain healthy and can pick out objects in a crowded field. Various cells in the cortex specialized for specific vertical lines were likely to fire regardless of the lines direction or orientation. Interesting. grant salada From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 17:09:37 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25307 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:09:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id D8BB956470; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:12:35 -0700 (MST) To: psychcog From: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.154 Message-Id: <20000322001235.D8BB956470@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:12:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] Encoding specificity I was thinking about how context is always tagged with facts like we were talking about in lecture a week and a half ago. It seems that I will remember the oddest stuff when I go certain places. When I had the opportunity to step back into my High School a couple of months ago. I had a flood of memories come to my attention of things I had forgotten a long time ago. Is this what the encoding specificity is all about? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 18:15:23 2000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26645 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:15:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [206.133.226.142] (sdn-ar-004utslciP030.dialsprint.net [206.133.226.142]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09918 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:18:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003220118.RAA09918@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:18:35 -0700 From: "Matthew Ross" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] somantic memory model Today Dr. Strayer discussed the Collins and Quillian somantic memory model. I have a question regarding the reliability of the model. It seems as though response times would vary greatly for different people based on their experiences. For example, I think I would know faster that canaries breathe than I would know that they are yellow. I was wondering if there is any truth to this and if so what is the explanation? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 18:41:29 2000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.199]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27149 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:41:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Lyuga0rAVu7XHZ3rA7Je7fgEydjLLtQVPtClgpZII6u5DbHvRpvYNA=="> Received: (from spunkysparks@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E3QT68UP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:43:55 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:02:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20000321.190222.-366075.1.spunkysparks@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Kristy L Sparks Subject: [Psych3120] Charley Sparks Finally, after several attempts I have been able to subscribe to the message board (my e- mail got all messed up when I signed onto AOL 5.0) If you have other e-mail or internet programs on your computer AOL 5.0 will disable them and it takes A LOT of work to clean up the mess. It has been very interesting to discuss memory in our class. I was first introduced to mnemonic devices in my intro to psychology class at the community college. The proffessor demonstrated several of these devices. I will never forget Roy G. Biv, which are the first letters to all of the colors of the rainbow. I especially will never forget the word tardivdyskenesia because this proffesor chented it over and over again while dancing on top of hte table at the front of the class room. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 21:58:07 2000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00600 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:58:06 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.37.2d0c43f (7879) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:00:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <37.2d0c43f.2609ad67@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:00:23 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Question Do acronyms such as those used in the military etc., fall under peg words? Tammy Ziegler From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 22:02:49 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00729 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:02:48 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.86.1a83542 (7879) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:05:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <86.1a83542.2609ae85@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:05:09 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Question - Episodic memory Do elements of episodic memory support the theory that events that were taking place or studied while intoxicated can more easily be recalled under the same condition/state of intoxication then when not. This relating to the original event -- which leads to encoding which then leads to the original engrain and cognitive environment? Tammy Ziegler From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 22:05:58 2000 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00856 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:05:58 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.a3.3a181ca (7879) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:08:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:08:20 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] question - episodic memory vs semantic memory Is it correct to say then that a difference between episodic memory and semantic memory is that episodic memory is specific, biographical, time related, event related, and date related memory whereas semantic memory is a very general, generic information based memory with no specific links to events and time? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 22:09:40 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f35.hotmail.com [216.32.181.35]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00938 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:09:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 12971 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 05:12:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322051207.12970.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.110 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:12:07 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.110] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:12:07 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Semantic Memory Organization Today in class we discussed semantic memory. Dr. Strayer used the Scategories game as an example of how semantic memory is not organized alphabetically, but rather is organized as a network. Because of this, I was wondering how well people could become at this game with practice? Also, Dr. said that details are lost in semantic memory. I do not understand that because if we use the example in class from Collin and Quillans’ TLC the question: Are all Robins bird? Dr. Strayer showed the nodes and the nodes were sort of general like animals, birds, etc. but the subnodes eventually got very specific. So how can the details be lost? For instance from a larger node of bird, was a smaller node of canary, then an even smaller node (all of these nodes linked) of yellow. Isn’t that pretty specific and detailed? Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 22:15:44 2000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01153 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:15:43 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.a8.2c50b27 (7879) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:18:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:18:09 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] question # 2 for semantic memory the study guide for the upcoming exam asks for us to list the 5 basic assumptions of the Collins and Qullian's model are they that semantic memory is: 1. organized as a network or interrelated concepts - each concept is represented by a node. 2. concepts are linked together by pathways 3. semantic relatedness 4. activation of concepts spreads to interconnected nodes 5. activation of one concept partially activates semantically related concepts From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 22:49:08 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f204.hotmail.com [216.32.181.204]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA01703 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:49:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 55321 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 05:51:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322055136.55320.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.110 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:51:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.110] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:51:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Collins & Quillians TLC & Semantic Memory I have a few questions regarding semantic memory. First of all, can a node be considered a category in semantic memory? Secondly, on 3/21 in class we discussed Collins & Quillian’s model. Specifically Dr. Strayer lectured on the retrieval process and the time it takes to retrieve information in semantic memory. He said that the activation, retrieval time, depends on how many links there are between the nodes that are relevant (or sometimes similar) to the question posed in the TLC model. I think that I understand that, but does this model work cross-culturally? Wouldn’t different cultures have separate associations or categories of information? Lastly, is it possible to really figure out what these nodes are in the network that are universal for each culture? Are all nodes really universal in each culture? In class one student mentioned that she had a different idea of what the word “robin” included in the question: Are all robins birds? She said no because she included peoples names as well as the bird. Wouldn’t this individual interpretation also be a problem for the TLC model? Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 23:17:59 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02268 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:17:58 -0700 (MST) From: AYELEL@aol.com Received: from AYELEL@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.92.2a7c2c4 (7382) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <92.2a7c2c4.2609c025@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:20:21 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] spreading activation I think that the lectures have been very interesting lately. I find the topic of memory very interesting, especially since I have worked with Alzheimer's patients in the past, and have seen what deterioration to memory can do to a person. What I'm wondering, in regard to today's lecture, is if there have been any tests for spreading activation in Alzheimer's sufferers. It would seem to me that no matter what the concept is to this group of people, it would always take them longer to reach a decision as to whether the sentence was valid or not. A lot of the time, people with Alzheimer's don't always understand what you are saying to them in the first place, and things must be explained several times before they say they understand. I just wonder if any tests of spreading activation have been done with this population, and if so, how they would go about the testing. -ally longworth From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 21 23:42:39 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f227.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.227]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA02740 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:42:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 68836 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 06:45:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322064506.68835.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 38.31.167.71 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:45:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [38.31.167.71] From: "jason rock" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: jason_rock@afcc.com Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:45:06 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Nodes If the same word has two meanings does it slow down the formation of intersections? Does it depend on the amount of information in the sentence the word is presented in to give the word context? If a word is in a specific sentence that makes obvious which meaning to ascribe to the word the normal process would seem to follow, but what if a word with two meanings is given without a supporting sentence, it seems that this would slow down the formation of intersections. Is this correct? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 00:26:38 2000 Received: from wwcst272.netaddress.usa.net (wwcst272.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.17]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA03550 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:26:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3750 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2000 07:29:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322072932.3749.qmail@wwcst272.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.17 by wwcst272 for [209.210.176.20] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Mar 22 07:29:32 GMT 2000 Date: 21 Mar 00 23:29:32 PST From: Kristina Waters To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id AAA03551 Subject: [Psych3120] Semantic memories The lecture today had me refer back to my limguistics sourse. I remember talking about semantics specifically and how it is developed, but cognition of course was never brought up. I remember that as infants we notice differences at the level of every phoneme, but slowly as we acquire our target language, we loose the capacity to distinguish between distinct phonemes in another lanuage. I was thinking that maybe there was a connection between this phenomena and the development and function of semantic memory. I think that there is no need for the different phonemes to be stored in LTM, if we arent going to use them in everyday converstation, so the semantic memory, "forgets them". I also find it interesting that when you learn a foreign language the distictions between these different phonemes come back like you had never "forgotten" them. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 08:33:49 2000 Received: from www0u.netaddress.usa.net (www0u.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.50]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA11916 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:33:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17973 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2000 15:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322153643.17972.qmail@www0u.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.50 by www0u for [155.99.1.155] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Mar 22 15:36:43 GMT 2000 Date: 22 Mar 00 07:36:43 PST From: jeffrey nolting To: 3120 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id IAA11917 Subject: [Psych3120] Semantic memory and the collective unconscious Freud shook up the world of psychology when he put forth the notion of an unconscious part of our mind that we respond to and act on without our awareness. Carl Jung posited a theory of the collective unconscious. Would it be correct to use the analogy then, that Freud's unconscious component would correspond to unconscious episodic memory and that of Jung to unconscious semantic memory? Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 08:46:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f102.hotmail.com [209.185.131.165]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA12232 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:46:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 6011 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 15:49:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322154922.6010.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.110.167 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:49:22 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.110.167] From: "michelle garrett" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:49:22 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] links... This is my first time posting a message via the "new system." Please let me know if you have received this. My comment is on memory semantics. I like this idea of how our brain is organized- with one link leading to another. It is quite fascinating. When did this idea come about? Michelle Garrett Lmichelle19@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 09:01:04 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12568 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:01:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id F3BD755FDE; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:04:01 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.149 Message-Id: <20000322160401.F3BD755FDE@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:04:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] example of our web in our head One example I though of clase when Dr. Strayer was talking about how different nodes are hooked together is that when we carry on a conversation we often go from one topic to another and then say "How did we get talking about this?" I know many times that I've traced my thought back and one little thing is linked to another. It's like you're talking to one friend, "The other day as I was driving to Jed's house we almost hit a deer! By the way have you ever been skiing at Deer Vally, it's pretty cool." "You know", says your friend, "I prefer water skiing down at Lake Powel. I love the beautiful red rock and to hike down there." "What kind of hiking shoes do you wear?"... And so the conversation goes on. It started out with driving to a friends house and has gotten to hiking shoes just because one word(node) of one thought or mental picture was linked to another thought or mental picture. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 09:55:33 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13609 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:55:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24960 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:56:33 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D90910.95961777@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:55:28 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] weed and memory References: <20000321064240.25277.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a pretty controvercial area. Surprisingly, most research indicates that the primary risk involved in long term marijuana use is ... lung damage. In contrast to a lot of other drugs, marijuana is unlikely to cause permanent changes in the brain, or lead to physical addiction and withdrawal symptoms (of course, psychological addiciton may be another story...) This isn't to say it's harmless. I think most of us can point to some anecdotal evidence that at least suggests caution. Interesting side note - the active ingredient in marijuana (THC) has its effects by binding to receptors (as neurotransmitters like dopamine or serotonin do). Recently, a naturally occuring chemical in the brain has been isolated that has the same effect - sort of like an endogenous, self produced version of marijuana. Wally Sean Clark wrote: > I know Marijuana effects memory , but does it mess up > how you encode things or how you retrieve them. I've > also noticed that long time smokers seem to be a > little slower in speech, so is there long term damge > to the memory system or is just the culture. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 10:00:40 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13743 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:00:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25350 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:01:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D90A37.3DA03FA9@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:00:23 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] somantic memory model References: <200003220118.RAA09918@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First of all, many of the reaction time effects seen in this kind of experiment are infinitessimally small - fractions of a second. That's too small to notice in everyday life, but statistically reliable so hopefully it says something about processing. As you point out, there are some individual differences. Some of the connections in your semantic network might be stronger or weaker, or maybe even absent altogether from mine. But for the most part, especially for simple things (like birds can fly, etc...) they are assumed to be pretty much the same. Someone posted a note of how this might relate to free association. Presumably this method would rely on there being some individual differences in semantic networks. Any thoughts? Wally Matthew Ross wrote: > Today Dr. Strayer discussed the Collins and Quillian somantic memory model. > I have a question regarding the reliability of the model. It seems as > though response times would vary greatly for different people based on their > experiences. For example, I think I would know faster that canaries breathe > than I would know that they are yellow. I was wondering if there is any > truth to this and if so what is the explanation? > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 10:07:46 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13870 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:07:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26032 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:08:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D90BF5.846FCA2@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:07:49 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] question - episodic memory vs semantic memory References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that's a pretty good characterization. Though note that at some point, the distinction can become fuzzy. Example: "Who was the first president of the U.S.?" Semantic memory, right? However, imagine you're in first grade and you just learned about George Washington in class today. In that case, that information might be better characterized as residing in episodic memory. Presumably at some point, there's a switch... So most modern theories leave room for interaction between the two, rather than characterizing them as completely separate. Wally Taz811976@aol.com wrote: > Is it correct to say then that a difference between episodic memory and > semantic memory is that episodic memory is specific, biographical, time > related, event related, and date related memory whereas semantic memory is a > very general, generic information based memory with no specific links to > events and time? > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 10:14:33 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14015 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:14:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26871 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:15:52 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D90D99.50EF01CB@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:14:50 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Collins & Quillians TLC & Semantic Memory References: <20000322055136.55320.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Great questions! Again this applies to individual differences, which to some extent have to exist between semantic networks. The cross-cultural idea is an interesting one. Imagine my semantic network including the node for the concept "cow" - I grew up in Minnesota, so there would be lots of connections to farms, milk, and various other things I know about cows. Now imagine the same portion of the network for somone in New Delhi. No doubt it would look quite a bit different, as it probably should... Wally Tim and Monique Gibson wrote: > I have a few questions regarding semantic memory. First of all, can a node > be considered a category in semantic memory? Secondly, on 3/21 in class we > discussed Collins & Quillian’s model. Specifically Dr. Strayer lectured on > the retrieval process and the time it takes to retrieve information in > semantic memory. He said that the activation, retrieval time, depends on how > many links there are between the nodes that are relevant (or sometimes > similar) to the question posed in the TLC model. I think that I understand > that, but does this model work cross-culturally? Wouldn’t different cultures > have separate associations or categories of information? Lastly, is it > possible to really figure out what these nodes are in the network that are > universal for each culture? Are all nodes really universal in each culture? > In class one student mentioned that she had a different idea of what the > word “robin” included in the question: Are all robins birds? She said no > because she included peoples names as well as the bird. Wouldn’t this > individual interpretation also be a problem for the TLC model? > > Monique J. Gibson > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 10:22:18 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14227 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:22:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27707 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:23:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38D90F60.AE279324@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:22:24 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Nodes References: <20000322064506.68835.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a good point - linguistic ambiguity can cause problems. One thing to keep in mind is that semantic memory is organized according to meaning, rather than orthography. So two concepts that are referred to by the same word - say bank (financial institution) and bank (geographical feature) wouldn't be represented by the same node. But it is words that activate concepts. So, if you happen to activate the wrong concept you'll either make a mistake, or realize something is amiss and go back and start over - which would cause a slower response, as you suggest. Wally jason rock wrote: > If the same word has two meanings does it slow down the formation of > intersections? Does it depend on the amount of information in the sentence > the word is presented in to give the word context? If a word is in a > specific sentence that makes obvious which meaning to ascribe to the word > the normal process would seem to follow, but what if a word with two > meanings is given without a supporting sentence, it seems that this would > slow down the formation of intersections. Is this correct? > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 11:19:53 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15241 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:19:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRU006D45Q3HN@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:22:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:22:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:22:46 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id LAA15242 Subject: [Psych3120] Semantic memory At my work we administer an IQ test where we ask the subject to name off as many words as they can think of that begin with the letter that we tell them. They have 1 minute to name off as many words as they can. I have noticed that some people use a paradigm to name off the words. For example for the letter S they say things like sand, sun, surf, etc. so the paradigm that they are using is the beach. They are using their semantic memory to generate words. Instead of naming off random words that are not associated at all. The subjects who use their semantic memory to generate the words always generate more words than the subjects that do not use their semantic memory. I know that the higher number of words generated the higher the IQ. But it just seems funny to me because it just seems like a little trick that some people think of that others do not. I think every person would generate more words on average if they used the semantic technique. Maybe part of the IQ test is seeing if they think of use semantics for their word generation. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 14:47:57 2000 Received: from www0m.netaddress.usa.net (www0m.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.42]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19424 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:47:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 81 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2000 21:50:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322215055.80.qmail@www0m.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.42 by www0m for [216.160.234.220] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Mar 22 21:50:55 GMT 2000 Date: 22 Mar 00 13:50:55 PST From: jeff gratton To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id OAA19425 Subject: [Psych3120] scattergories I was very excited to participate in the class exercize on tuesday. The scattergories game is one of my favorites because it makes you think!! I think it also makes you humble because everyone, I'm sure, is convinced that they "know a lot of words", and therefore must do really well. It's pretty funny how frustrated people can get over things like that. I often enjoy playing it on trips or with extended family, and have always been one of the 'winners', if there is such a thing in a game like that. My friends and siblings attribute high performance in the game with high intelligence in general. I'm sure that an extensive vocabulary is very helpful, but how related is 'being smart' to giving quick, accurate and complete responses( or winning) in a game like Scattergories? I thought that by Dr. Strayer using this type of example in class to demonstrate how semantic memory is organized was not only fun, but very informative. I'll bet that even people who think they are very smart can get hung up on it! ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 18:01:08 2000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22834 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:01:07 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.2b.358c2a8 (8415) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2b.358c2a8.260ac73a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:02:50 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Scattagories and memory I am making a comment about Tuesday's lecture. I found it to be interesting the game was harder to play than I originally thought. I had never played the game before but the way he explained it, it seemed easy. Dr. Strayer discussed that we use our semantic memory but it become difficult because the semantic memory is not organized in chronological or alphabetical order. My thought is that I thought the game would be easy because we use semantic memory (our world knowledge and experiences) to answer the categories with a specific letter. Yet, when we have limited time to answer several categories beginning with a specific letter. Our world knowledge had a hard time finding answers. This is mind boggling. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 22 21:24:49 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f224.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.224]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA26266 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:24:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 56282 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2000 04:27:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000323042716.56281.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.24.24.248 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:27:16 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.24.24.248] From: "Kristin Paige" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:27:16 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Animals and cognition I just wanted to add a little to the comments about animals and the ability to learn. I bought a baby cockateel about a week ago. It was raised in a cage so it didn't have access to a normal world with it's many objects. But already she is recognizing a lot of things. Every time she hears a phone ring (even if it was on TV) she runs to the phone and starts cheeping, like she was talking. We haven't trained her to do this so she must have picked it up from watching us. My theory is that she is learning and adapting to her environment in order to be aware of her surroundings and rule out any potential dangers. Kristin Paige ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 12:16:51 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (jhk01a60@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11905 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:16:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jhk01a60@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA03671 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:19:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:19:44 -0700 (MST) From: J Katz Sender: J.Katz@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] bilingual semantic memory The other day in class, after talking about spreading activation, someone asked whether priming a word in one language would have any effects on a probe in another language. The answer was no. Is there a sepearte semantic system for each language a person knows? It seems intuitive that since semantic memory is organized by meaning, language should not have an effect. "Rojo" should activate "red" since they mean the same thing. Are there any differences in the way the two languages are organized in semantic memory for someone who learned a new language later in life as opposed to someone who grew up speaking two languages? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 12:28:26 2000 Received: from web3605.mail.yahoo.com (web3605.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.109]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12146 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:28:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000323193234.17752.qmail@web3605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.27.113] by web3605.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:32:34 PST Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Macdonald To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] emotional memory I noticed a phenomenon in my thinking this morning that has caused me some reflection after talking about semantic memory today. I was trying to remember someone's name. I could see the person's face perfectly, but I couldn't remember the name. The strange thing was that I could almost "feel" the name. I remembered how I felt about that person's name. This has caused me to wonder if maybe a small piece of emotion is attached to most things we learn. About four hours later, I finally recalled the person's first name-it just came out of the blue...memory is interesting! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 13:07:07 2000 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12893 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:07:07 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.64.131cef6 (8415) for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:09:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <64.131cef6.260bd3f1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:09:21 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] memory packets Regarding the comment Dr. Strayer made in class today about losing two sugar packets of memory each year. Is that an unavoidable part of aging, or something that can be helped by keeping an active mind? Older people do exercises to keep their bodies in better shape, and they can do the same for their minds. Does exercising the mind help to prevent or at least slow down the "two sugar packets a year?" From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 15:06:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.188]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15076 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:06:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28184 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2000 22:09:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000323220925.28183.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.10.133.199 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:09:25 PST X-Originating-IP: [12.10.133.199] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] bilingual semantic memory Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:09:25 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I can see where there wouldn't be any priming effects in someone who learned a second language as an adult. If someone learns English, they create a set of semantic relationships for 'red,' then if they learn Spanish, they create a whole new set of them for 'rojo.' But what about someone who learned the two languages simultaneously as a child? I don't see why they would create separate sets of semantic relationships for each language if they always associated the words 'rojo' and 'red' with the actual color of red. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 17:04:30 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17155 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:04:29 -0700 (MST) From: JannetteBireley@att.net Received: from william ([12.72.137.220]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000324000656.JIAS10526.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:06:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf9525$b12231c0$dc89480c@william> To: "University of Utah" Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:12:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF94EB.0362DF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory and eyewitness testimony This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF94EB.0362DF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering, with the error in eyewitness testimony, how can it be = used in court as a valid account of a crime. How can the legal process = really determine what was a reliable memory and what was a fictional = memory? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF94EB.0362DF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was wondering, with the error in eyewitness = testimony, how=20 can it be used in court as a valid account of a crime.  How = can the=20 legal process really determine what was a reliable memory and what was a = fictional memory?
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF94EB.0362DF60-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 18:19:55 2000 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (hscmail.med.utah.edu [155.100.100.69]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18480 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:19:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRW004KNJU4VG@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:22:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:22:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:22:48 -0700 From: Sharelle Baldwin To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id SAA18481 Subject: [Psych3120] The brain mapping of semantic memory In class when we talked about how semantic memory is more than one node per memory, but rather a series of neurons all linked together I found it paticularly interesting to think about the statement: We only use 10% of our brain. Because clearly the brain is a complex system where one memory is linked with many neurons in a network. It just makes sense that even though scientists have not found specific function for parts of the brain that those parts may contribute to the storing or the process of encoding a memory. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 23 19:15:55 2000 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19551 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:15:54 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.a0.2741402 (3702) for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:18:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:18:16 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] Neely's work Ok. I was fine up to the part about ASA and spreading activation with respect to semantic memory...then I got lost on Neely's exp't and what he ultimately found. I got that automatic memory with semantic memory produces no costs and is essentially just an instantaneous primer-probe response. Now with attentional memory is it that there are costs and benefits depending on the probe/primer pairing and if so what's the significance of having a memory that can be incorrect (i.e.have costs)? grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 09:25:40 2000 Received: from web3607.mail.yahoo.com (web3607.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.111]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04446 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:25:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000324163008.22749.qmail@web3607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.27.49] by web3607.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:30:08 PST Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:30:08 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Macdonald To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] food for thought I'm curious about whether or not one' diet affects memory. Are there certain foods that enhance memory. I presume that there are, but have no idea which foods would have memory-enhancing effects. I know that memory is based upon patterns of thousands of neurons and that pottasium and sodium are important in neron firing. Would a monitoring of such elements in one's diet make a difference in memory potential. Just a liitle "food for thought" (clever, huh?). Robert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 11:32:54 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06774 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 5167D566E7; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:35:51 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120 From: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.169 Message-Id: <20000324183551.5167D566E7@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:35:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] Required listings I was just wondering how many of these listings we had to have. Also, how can we tell how many listings we put on the other message board? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 11:36:58 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06906 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:36:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 90012566E7; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:39:55 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120 From: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.169 Message-Id: <20000324183955.90012566E7@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:39:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] Memories Assuming memories are a group of neurons and not just one, memories won't be lost if one neuron dies. Does that mean that the group of neurons pertaining to a memory are located in one hemisphere of the brain? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 13:42:26 2000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA09182 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 25193 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2000 20:45:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000324204523.25192.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.252.50] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:45:23 PST Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:45:23 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Clark To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] ASA VS. LCA I used to play a drinking game in high school called King's Categories and one part of the game was questions. When one person asked another person a question they had to answer with a question or ask someone else a question. Anyway, this gets much harder as you get drunk. I thought it might illustrate the difference between what is automatic and what requires attention, and how the automaticity of answering the question can make asking a new question a more difficult task (increasingly difficult with intoxication) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 14:48:50 2000 Received: from web3305.mail.yahoo.com (web3305.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.147]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10421 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:48:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000324215109.3190.qmail@web3305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.180.229] by web3305.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:51:09 PST Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:51:09 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] spreading activation I enjoyed the spreading activation problem that we did yesterday in class. It was interesting to watch this spreading occur as people moved from summer, seasons, sunscreen, beach, water activities, pizza, cheese, cow, horse, cowboy, barn, grain, oats, BEER, to throwing up. A day later I'm able to remember sixteen items (much more than 7 +/- 2). I also found it interesting that BEER came up twice. That was a real shocker a week after Spring Break. So, how many people lost more than two "sugar packets" of brain cells during that one week? :) From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 24 16:56:15 2000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12705 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:56:14 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.1a.1779d5e (3867) for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:58:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1a.1779d5e.260d5b2c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:58:36 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] class activity It seems to me that when we did the class activity yesterday, that the second part, when we had to name things that we different, actually didn't go much slower that the first part. If everyone was doing what I did, it's easy to see why. When we had to name something different, I had a few things already in my mind that I thought would work, and just picked one. When we had to think of something similar, I couldn't really come up with something until it was almost my turn. I think if the experiment we done as more of a surprise, that it would be easier to find similarities than differences, but not in this case. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 25 11:01:33 2000 Received: from www0x.netaddress.usa.net (www0x.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.53]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01292 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:01:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 6322 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2000 18:04:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000325180425.6320.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.53 by www0x for [216.160.234.220] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Sat Mar 25 18:04:25 GMT 2000 Date: 25 Mar 00 10:04:25 PST From: jeff gratton To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id LAA01293 Subject: [Psych3120] substance use and brain impairment I was just wondering... Why is it that some people seem to function so "well" while under the influence of alcohol or marijuana, while other seem to be incapacitated? Sounds random, but what kind of mental processes are working if a person tries to attend to something that requires mental energy and thought, but is somewhat numbed by the effects of the substance? Do these conditions work in conflict, or through time, do people learn how to think differently while under the influence? What is a 'functional alcoholic', and is it a result of practice in being intoxicated? I am a bartender, and beneath all the "glamour" of Tom Cruise and "Cocktail", it's nothing like that at all. Some of the time, it's really sad to see people in such a state, but most of the time it is fun though, because you get to talk to a lot of people - something like an unofficial internship is psychology. Back to the question though, it's probably safe to say that alcohol impairs everyone who uses it to some degree, but what gets me are the people who you would never suspect had a buzz on, but I know how much I've served them. They act normal, carry on intelligent conversations, and for all I know, could be working at the time on important paperwork. Then there's the people that have two drinks, and I have to 'slow them down' because it seems to have had an intensified effect on them. Do these people just have virgin livers, or less practice being drunk? Nellie Haws- jeffreynellie@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 25 12:50:15 2000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03221 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 12:50:14 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.68.213514f (4572) for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:52:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <68.213514f.260e7304@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:52:36 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Class Activity I am responding to Geace7700's comment about the class activity on Thursday. I agree with her that the second part of the activity didn't go slower than the first part. In my opinion I thought the second one was easier than the first whether it was automatic or not. Like Grace7700 said,"she already had thing or ideas in her mind" therefore made it easier when it was her turn. I think this could be harder if it was in a different context. Our class is so big that by the time you get to the end, people could have numerous of things they could say. I thought it was harder in the first because I had to wait until the person before said what their thought was, then I had to react. The second part I have a word, the person says their word and without thinking I say mine. Like I said, I think it would be different in different type of context. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Mar 25 13:16:02 2000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03748 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:16:01 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.74.241d25b (10011) for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:18:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <74.241d25b.260e790e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:18:22 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] functional alcoholism I thought Nellie's remarks about alcoholistic differences was interesting. Having several alcoholics in my family I have some experience seeing how they function seemingly normally at work and at home. My uncle usually starts drinking after lunch and doesn't stop until he falls asleep later in the evening, he keeps a full-time job and even works weekends on his house, it's just that he has built up a tolerance and can function very well after 6 or 8 beers, except late at night when he's usually pretty blitzed...He is however, becoming more and more forgetful as he gets older and I'm sure his brain is being damaged by his abuse. Unfortunatley, he doesn't recognize this on his own and thinks people around him are just being interfering and righteous. On the other side, my girlfriend who has no tolerance (low amount of enzyme that breaks down alcohol) and after 2 drinks she's either sleeping or ready to dance all night... grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 12:29:10 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (jab13@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27518 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:29:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jab13@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04981 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:32:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 12:32:06 -0700 (MST) From: J Bottino Sender: J.Bottino@m.cc.utah.edu To: Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] semantic memory I thought the beginning of last Thursday's class was very interesting! I think that including the entire class in Scattergories was fun and helped get the idea across. There is, however one thing I was confused about. In lecture, it was apparent that coming up with a word that doesn't relate to the word of the person before you was harder than coming up with a word that relates to the word. I got a little bit confused here, however, because it seemed like it took a lot less time to come up with a completely irrelevant word than it did to come up with a related word. For me, I chose the word I was going to use when we started with the unrelated words, chances were that it wouldn't be the same subject. So why is it easier to come up with a related word and an unrelated word????? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 13:47:14 2000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28915 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 13:47:14 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.7e.2b5222d (4360) for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:49:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7e.2b5222d.260fd1db@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:49:31 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] Magic Cave Card Trick My friend sent this to me. It's a fancier version of the trick that we did in class. She told me that she didn't know why, but it got her every time. Think I should let her in on the secret? http://www-fsv.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/new/Allerlei/magic/index.html :) Anna From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 15:29:59 2000 Received: from web3907.mail.yahoo.com (web3907.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00676 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:29:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000326223225.23954.qmail@web3907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.205.106] by web3907.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:32:25 PST Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] semantic memory In discussing semantic memory there are two concepts that came up; priming and probing. What are the exact meaning of these concepts and how do they fit into semantic memory? Julie Nelson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 15:33:45 2000 Received: from web3907.mail.yahoo.com (web3907.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00805 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 15:33:44 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000326223612.24280.qmail@web3907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.224.205.106] by web3907.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:36:12 PST Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:36:12 -0800 (PST) From: Julie N To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] semantic memory when we talked about semantic memory being organized as a network of interrelated concepts, what was the explanation for economy of representation? Julie Nelson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 20:30:54 2000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05990 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 20:30:53 -0700 (MST) From: AMASAV@aol.com Received: from AMASAV@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.45.1e7adfb (4364) for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:33:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45.1e7adfb.26103078@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:33:12 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Subject: [Psych3120] Priming In the text, the lexical decision task was discussed. It demonstrated how we string letters together to make words. It commented that this is an important task for investigating priming. Does this infer that reading becomes a primed response in that we automatically recognize the word and its meaning w/o a conscious effort to do so? Is it something that applies to sentences or words? I often can read entire pages of a book and not remember what it was about. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 20:42:15 2000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06203 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 20:42:14 -0700 (MST) From: AMASAV@aol.com Received: from AMASAV@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.8.2d3a310 (4364) for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:44:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8.2d3a310.26103321@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:44:33 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Subject: [Psych3120] priming In the text, the lexical decision test was discussed. It dmeonstrated how we string letters together to make words. It commented that this is an imprtant task for investigating priming. Does this infer that reading become a primed response in that we automatically recognize the word and its meaning w/o a conscious effort to do so? Is it something that applies to whole sentences or just words? I often can read entire pages of a book and not remember what it was about. Jeff Larson From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 22:07:52 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f262.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.140]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07711 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:07:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 94930 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2000 05:10:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000327051020.94929.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.213.180 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:10:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.213.180] From: "Beau Carlson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:10:19 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] network Notes in a Network chapter six, defines a network as nodes connected by other nodes by pathways. What does that mean? Collins and Quillian viewed the entries in your Semantic memory as being nodes in a network, a node is a point or location in the semantic space. Each node is connected to other nodes by pathways. Thus the entire collection is connected and thus constructs a network. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 09:54:35 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20015 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:54:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09100 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:55:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38DFA06D.1720243B@psych.utah.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:54:53 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] semantic memory References: <20000326223225.23954.qmail@web3907.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's just a little terminology that refers to how prining is usually demonstrated. In a prining experiment, a prime is the first word of a word pair. It activates a node and spreads activation to related nodes (thereby priming, or partially activating them). The probe is the second word. If it has been primed by the first, response times should be faster. Does that help? Wally Julie N wrote: > In discussing semantic memory there are two concepts > that came up; priming and probing. What are the exact > meaning of these concepts and how do they fit into > semantic memory? > Julie Nelson > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 09:59:48 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20143 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:59:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09395 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:01:12 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38DFA1A8.5A374735@psych.utah.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:00:08 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] semantic memory References: <20000326223612.24280.qmail@web3907.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Economy of representation means you want to use the fewest number of nodes that you can, and keep the network to a manageable size. Thus, penguins have feathers, and emus have feathers. Even though one could connect a separate 'feathers' node to each of these, many models assumed they are attached to the same 'feathers' node. If you didn't a network would get messy, as you connected to your concept of a penguin everything from 'has feathers' to 'is an object' to 'is black and white' to 'has DNA' to 'can eat'... it's not hard to see how this would get unwieldy Wally Julie N wrote: > when we talked about semantic memory being organized > as a network of interrelated concepts, what was the > explanation for economy of representation? > > Julie Nelson > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 11:33:01 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21865 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:33:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from 0016287778 ([12.72.136.71]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000327183527.ZDCY24417.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@0016287778> for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:35:27 +0000 Message-ID: <001301bf9823$f5348380$4788480c@0016287778> From: "Vickie Astin" To: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:37:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF97E0.E35489A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [Psych3120] stm/ltm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF97E0.E35489A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it has been criticized by many, the fact that cognitve experimentation = with memory has dealt with learning arbitrary lists of information, = information with little relevance to advancing human intelligence and = capacity for good. How is coding into memory, specifically LTM, done = with information that is philosophical or abstract in nature. Academic = leaders on campus focus on learning processes, and gainging a full = understanding of that which is taught. Therefore, how does the = spreading activation theory of nodal memory work to encode information = about processing data for novel ideas, or just plain "thinking"? It is = one thing to be able to solve a calculus or chemistry problem, but it = seems to me a completely different system of memory or learning to = understand the processes involved in solving such problems. Any thoughts? ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF97E0.E35489A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it has been criticized by many, the = fact that=20 cognitve experimentation with memory has dealt with learning arbitrary = lists of=20 information, information with little relevance to advancing human = intelligence=20 and capacity for good.  How is coding into memory, specifically = LTM, done=20 with information that is philosophical or abstract in nature.  = Academic=20 leaders on campus focus on learning processes, and gainging a full=20 understanding of that which is taught.  Therefore, how = does the=20 spreading activation theory of nodal memory work to encode information = about=20 processing data for novel ideas, or just plain "thinking"?  It is = one thing=20 to be able to solve a calculus or chemistry problem, but it seems to me = a=20 completely different system of memory or learning to understand the = processes=20 involved in solving such problems.
Any = thoughts?
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF97E0.E35489A0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 13:29:18 2000 Received: from yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (yh26960@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23999 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:29:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (yh26960@localhost) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA07825 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:32:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:32:15 -0700 (MST) From: Y Hosseini Sender: Y.Hosseini@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Eye Witness accounts! I had learned in an AP Psychology class that Eye witness accounts are not accurate, but since the class was a basic overview of psychology I never got an indepth reason as to why that was. In this class learning about episodic memory and semantic memory as allowed me to explain this much easier. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 15:56:51 2000 Received: from web3607.mail.yahoo.com (web3607.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.111]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA01885 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:56:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000327230131.23127.qmail@web3607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.192.84] by web3607.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:01:31 PST Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:01:31 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Macdonald To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] addiction I am currently taking the brain and behavior class offered in the psychology dept. Today we talked about addiction. I am wondering how the mind remembers that an addiction feels good. Where does the mind store such information. Is there a bank of information that is designated to storing pleasurable measures? I imagine that if there is a physical dependency involved, the brain will receive information that the body is uncomfortable and will want to do the event that will make it feel better. But, if the craving is not physical, where in the mind does the craving come from? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 18:22:00 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04453 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:22:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:24:49 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 27 Mar 00 18:24:20 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 27 Mar 00 18:24:11 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:24:10 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [Psych3120] addiction Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20000327230131.23127.qmail@web3607.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <43E884A1AC9@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> Understanding that the mind is just a series of chemical connections and reactions, one begins to see that chemical dependency is as basic as one's sense of hunger. Many of the drugs used mimic neurotransmitters naturally found in the body (such as the euphoric drugs and opioids with Epinephrine and norepinephrine). The nerve cells themselves often become accostomed to constantly being in a state of polarization and when the substance is removed, the nerve propogates a signal to many areas of the brain, including the hypothalamus and other lower brain structures. This is very similar to the responses from nerve cells the aortic arch which detect oxygen levels and pressure in the vessels which tells your body to breath and urinate. Also, when the site on the nerve is constantly firing, connections between the nerves in the synaptic cleft become larger to accomodate the increased flow of neurotransmitters which makes it more difficult to "kick" the habbit. Many neurobiologists/psychologists believe that conditioning is a result of larger connections between neurons. I'm not sure, however,if there is an actual place in the brain that remembers how it feels and wants it again as much as it is the connections between neurons and the reinforcement they get from constant use. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 18:25:58 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04580 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:25:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:28:46 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 27 Mar 00 18:28:17 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 27 Mar 00 18:27:58 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:27:52 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Re: Eye Witness accounts! Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <43E98763976@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> I believe Dr. Strayer will lecture on this (eye witness accounts) next hour, but I'll try to give a preview. Many times we do not accurately see what happens. People then begin to subtly implant things into our head, i.e. the police might say while looking at pictures "that's who we thought it was." The image of the person on the photograph then replaces the image that we had at the time of the incident. There are many other reasons why they are inaccurate and often times just plain wrong that I'm sure he will discuss in detail next time. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 19:06:41 2000 Received: from mail.smartfella.com ([63.77.48.151]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05239 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:06:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.smartfella.com from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:56:23 -0700 Received: from njtcom.com [207.173.167.132] by mail.smartfella.com [63.77.48.151] (SLmail 3.2.3113) with ESMTP id F7930A60025E11D48AED004F4E009AE0 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:56:22 -0700 Message-ID: <38E0133A.27EDED94@njtcom.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:04:42 -0700 From: luana X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SLUIDL: EC8C34DE-025E11D4-8AED004F-4E009AE0 Subject: [Psych3120] Re: stm/ltm This question is interesting. I try to think about a way to link the spreading activation theory with a problem solving. Here's a thought: I have in mind a problem of chemistry. Reading its text you place yourself conceptually in a certain context. You read about -let's say- a chemical reaction which makes you activate the corresponding nodes related to the chemical substances involved in the reaction, also the nodes related to how a reaction (similar to the one in the problem) occurs, etc. It is important, I think, to "know" what nodes to activate, in a sense you have to create a bridge between the application you are working on (the problem) and the network you have in mind. That's why it is important to read the problem carefully so you can really get the meaning, the context, the request of that problem (you relate the "new" with what you already know). Then I think that finding an intersection where all these nodes' activation meet is important, that helps you to find the solution. In my mind, this happens when the parts get connected, the problem is a more "coherent" body, therefore the solution rises as a "normal" resultant of that specific context. Finding the intersection is not an easy part, sometimes, it takes a long way for the different activation "branches" to encounter each other, you may go around (different nodes) a lot. The best solution is usually considered the simplest one. In the light of the spreading activation memory, maybe this translates into finding the shortest linkage between different concepts. That's (part of) why solving problems makes one understand and know better the theory. A problem either reinforces old links or creates new, shorter (more efficient) ones. Problem solving also helps our mind practice a lot and improve the ability to find such connections. Isn't true, in a way, that after a lot of problem solving our knowledge (implicitly, our memory) has a slightly different structure? Anyway, it's just my idea... Any other thoughts? Luana From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 19:24:25 2000 Received: from slcc.edu (mail.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.196]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05627 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:24:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from GROUP001-Message_Server by slcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:30:13 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:26:58 -0700 From: Karen Pratt To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] emotional memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline That exact same thing happened to me only it took me 3 days to remember the persons name. I must have a slow memory. >>> Robert Macdonald 03/23 12:32 PM >>> I noticed a phenomenon in my thinking this morning that has caused me some reflection after talking about semantic memory today. I was trying to remember someone's name. I could see the person's face perfectly, but I couldn't remember the name. The strange thing was that I could almost "feel" the name. I remembered how I felt about that person's name. This has caused me to wonder if maybe a small piece of emotion is attached to most things we learn. About four hours later, I finally recalled the person's first name-it just came out of the blue...memory is interesting! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Mar 27 23:58:45 2000 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10489 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:58:45 -0700 (MST) From: AYELEL@aol.com Received: from AYELEL@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.3f.29b2b86 (4250) for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:01:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3f.29b2b86.2611b2b0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:01:04 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] class activity This is in response to the 2 comments posted on the message board about the second part of the class activity on thursday. I think that if you did what Dr. Strayer said, and that was to say something totally unrelated to what the person before you said, then it really was more difficult, and more time was spent searching for an answer. The brain is set up so that information is stored with other information that it is related to. When you are asked to look up information that has nothing to do with another piece of information, then your brain will take longer to process the information. Therefore, if you honestly didn't have a response waiting (I didn't), then this second part of the activity proves to be more time consuming then the first part. ally longworth From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 10:33:26 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (jtk3@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21961 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:33:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jtk3@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA01505 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:36:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:36:23 -0700 (MST) From: T Kilgore Sender: T.Kilgore@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Lure cues I found myself using lure cues or guiding words when I was asking my boss if i could take the company van on an errand of mine. I said it's "just" down to crossroads mall. I used that one little word 'just' to try and get him to think that it was not as far away as it really was. If I had said, " it's all the way down to crossroads mall" than I'm almost sure he would have said no, even though I was essentially asking if I could go to the very same place. subtle words like "just" can be manipulative and can guide people's cognition. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 12:24:52 2000 Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (www0l.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.41]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24113 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:24:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24062 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2000 19:27:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328192750.24059.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.41 by www0l for [216.160.234.134] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Mar 28 19:27:49 GMT 2000 Date: 28 Mar 00 11:27:49 PST From: jeff gratton To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id MAA24114 Subject: [Psych3120] people switching I like the exercise from class today where Wally replaced one of the students, unassumingly. I would be interested in seeing more extensive and detaied results of performing that experiment over several trials. I'll bet that everyone thinks they would notice the "switch", but I'm of the mindset that more often than not, people would continue talking and giving directions to the new individual , none the wiser. It's pretty funny though, to realize how fallible we are, especially concerning our memories and judgements - things we hold very dear and close, almost as if they help define who are. Nellie Haws - jeffreynellie@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 13:33:53 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f54.hotmail.com [216.32.181.54]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25451 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:33:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 89547 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2000 20:36:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328203620.89546.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:36:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:36:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Terms What are the differences and definitions for: false-memories, reconstructed memory, reproductive memory, recoded memory, and recovered memory? If I understand them correctly, false memories are memories that never really happened. Reconstructed memories are when we combine the original memory with knowledge we already posses: semantics. Reproductive memory is verbatim reproduction of a memory. Recoded memory is where the actual memory has been distorted by leading questions for example. Recovered memory refers to when a memory is remembered after forgetting about it, kind of like repression. Dr. Strayer, Wally, or other classmates, will you please make sure that my definitions of these terms are correct? Thanks. Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 13:48:03 2000 Received: from www0c.netaddress.usa.net (www0c.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.32]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25749 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 7769 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2000 20:47:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328204741.7768.qmail@www0c.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.32 by www0c for [155.99.1.155] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Tue Mar 28 20:47:41 GMT 2000 Date: 28 Mar 00 12:47:41 PST From: jeffrey nolting To: 3120 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id NAA25750 Subject: [Psych3120] Odors and memory I understand that the cognitive enviroment is encoded with the original event witch would include smells and odors. It seems to me that these aren't vulnerable to being recoded with an interpolated event nor are they reintegrated with the passage of time. Additionally, I'm interested as to why smells and odors are such a powerful cue for memory recall. Furthermore, the same odor does not always provide a cue to the same memory, a certain odor may provide a cue to different memories at different times...why? Are smells and odors part of the nodal memory system? Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 14:23:39 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26430 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:23:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.212) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098319) for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: <38E12616.821A9E9@networld.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:37:26 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] Memory In todays class (thurs.) Dr. Strayer lectured on how semantic and episodic memory are two separate systems, and how the two systems interact in the real world. Well, I was reminded of the class where the class particpated in the scategories game to explain how semantic memory works. I felt silly after the game because, when it was my turn and they were listing seasons, I blurted out "summer" at the time not realizing that, that was the work Dr. Strayer started with. I don't remember him saying the word in the begining. Today's lecture brought all that together. Due to schemata (my personal anxiety I feel when it comes to public speaking), I was overwhelmed with anxiety and didn't remember hearing the first word "summer". After class that day I felt silly. I guess this also relates to the demonstration Dr. Strayer did at the end of class today, where the conversation is going on between two people, and one of the persons is replaced with another, the person talking doesn't realize the changes, this is called changed blindness. Am I on the right tract with these? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 14:30:42 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26645 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:30:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.212) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098319) for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:32:19 -0700 Message-ID: <38E127C7.FBA6F575@networld.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:44:39 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] reconstructive memory I found todays lecture to be very interesting, in regards to reconstructive memory and how we are able to leave out missing information, and make sense out of a scene with our own perceptions and not see the original information. Especially when it comes to dealing with eye witness testimony. What got me was the fact that these testimonies are putting someones life on the line even though they are faulty. If experts know this why is this type of testimony still being used today? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 14:40:58 2000 Received: from norted.core.afcc.com (norted.afcc.com [204.167.220.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26875 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:40:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from mcfeely.core.afcc.com by norted.core.afcc.com via smtpd (for jafo.csbs.utah.edu [128.110.112.11]) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2000 21:43:55 UT Received: by afcc.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA20626; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:43:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from norteddmz(192.168.7.150), claiming to be "norteddmz.core.afcc.com" via SMTP by mcfeely, id smtpdAAA0_SIfo; Tue Mar 28 15:43:41 2000 Received: from [10.96.1.88] by norteddmz.core.afcc.com via smtpd (for mcfeely.core.afcc.com [192.168.7.1]) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2000 21:43:41 UT X-Server-Uuid: f7186388-6a25-11d3-b7c9-0008c7b961c2 Message-ID: <851200E65752D211BC89006008CE5353F88275@Z9999021.core.afcc.com> From: "Rock, Jason" To: "'psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu'" Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:32:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 14FFF8064355795-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] eye witness testimony Today in class Dr. Strayer mentioned that one in three convicted rapists are actually innocent according to DNA testing. This makes me sick to think of all the innocent men behind bars. Is there any legislation in the works right now to get eye witness testimony if not removed from the legal system, at least more regulated? Perhaps if all juries could be presented with the limitations of eyewitness testimony before any trial that includes eye witness testimony it would cut down on incarcerating innocent people. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 14:44:52 2000 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26925 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:44:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [168.191.234.169] (sdn-ar-001utslciP303.dialsprint.net [168.191.234.169]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11434 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003282147.NAA11434@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:48:09 -0700 From: "Matthew Ross" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] sensory overload devices The other day I learned about sensory overload devices. These are devices that police departments are experimenting with as a non-violent way to apprehend out of control people. One of the devices that is currently in use is called the flash bang. This device explodes and is incredibly loud while at the same time it emits a bright flash of light. Supposedly, the senses are overwhelmed and because of this it takes a person 6-8 seconds to recover from it (enough time for the police to move in). I am wondering where this technology may lead and if anyone has more information about it? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 15:19:06 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f266.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.144]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27575 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:19:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 98995 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2000 22:21:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328222133.98994.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.216.17 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:21:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.173.216.17] From: "Vard McGuire" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Odors and memory Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:21:32 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This is in response to the last part of Jeff's posting, about certain smells being cues to different memories. Different cues could possibly be working together in the recall of these different memories. When a memory is formed, everything in that context could potentially be used as a cue for retreival, not just the odors involved. Sounds, time of day, the air temperature, the season, the people you are with, and many more could be used. So, a certain smell at a certain time of day could remind you of one thing, and the same smell that is present with a certain sound could remind you of something else. ----Original Message Follows---- From: jeffrey nolting Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To: 3120 Subject: [Psych3120] Odors and memory Date: 28 Mar 00 12:47:41 PST I understand that the cognitive enviroment is encoded with the original event witch would include smells and odors. It seems to me that these aren't vulnerable to being recoded with an interpolated event nor are they reintegrated with the passage of time. Additionally, I'm interested as to why smells and odors are such a powerful cue for memory recall. Furthermore, the same odor does not always provide a cue to the same memory, a certain odor may provide a cue to different memories at different times...why? Are smells and odors part of the nodal memory system? Jeff Nolting ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 16:23:33 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28798 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:23:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id D555655E45; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:26:30 -0700 (MST) To: psychcog From: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mgb2@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 155.100.74.72 Message-Id: <20000328232630.D555655E45@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:26:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) This is a thought in response to Ben Osborne's message. In my Human Physiology Class last semester, we talked a little about addiction and drugs. In the brain, we learned that the neurotransmitter's cross the synapses between the neurons to continue the signal from neuron to neuron. If the signal is great enough than the receiving neuron fires and continues the signal. This firing of the next neuron can also be inhibited (this keeps all the neurons from firing at the same time, sort of like a seizure). By this signaling, our body does everything from moving to having emotions. After the signaling has taken place the neurotransmitters are taken back up into the sending neuron and packaged for the next firing sequence. This is a very important part of signaling, because if the signal is lost then the cell will have to remake the neurotransmitter from scratch, using valuable resources. What some drugs do is inhibit the reuptake of the neurotransmitters. This causes the receiving neuron to keep firing. This allows the person to feel a high or a low depending on the drug used. Unfortunately, the neurotransmitters hanging out in the synapse diffuse away without being reuptaken because of the inhibition. So the cell has to resynthesize new neurotransmitters. The cell does not resynthesize the same amount because of the lack of resources and the person becomes addicted. The person requires the same amount of the drug to achieve the normal feeling that the person felt before he/she took the drug. The drug in essence becomes the life blood because the person cannot be normal without it. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 16:25:30 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f11.hotmail.com [209.185.131.74]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28914 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:25:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 44180 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2000 23:27:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328232757.44179.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:27:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.61] From: "david ryan" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:27:56 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] eye witness accounts I really enjoyed today's lecture on eye witness accounts. It was fascinating to learn how much previous experience and memory can play a role in what we believe we see. I was wondering if any cases have been won by using an argument that eye witness accounts can be very faulty for a number of reasons. David Green >From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #27 - 8 msgs >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:00:12 -0700 (MST) > > >Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Eye Witness accounts! (Y Hosseini) > 2. addiction (Robert Macdonald) > 3. Re: addiction (Ben Osborne) > 4. Re: Re: Eye Witness accounts! (Ben Osborne) > 5. Re: stm/ltm (luana) > 6. Re: emotional memory (Karen Pratt) > 7. class activity (ayelel@aol.com) > 8. Lure cues (T Kilgore) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:32:15 -0700 (MST) >From: Y Hosseini >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Eye Witness accounts! >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I had learned in an AP Psychology class that Eye witness accounts are not >accurate, but since the class was a basic overview of psychology I never >got an indepth reason as to why that was. In this class learning about >episodic memory and semantic memory as allowed me to explain this much >easier. > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:01:31 -0800 (PST) >From: Robert Macdonald >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] addiction >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I am currently taking the brain and behavior class >offered in the psychology dept. Today we talked about >addiction. I am wondering how the mind remembers that >an addiction feels good. Where does the mind store >such information. Is there a bank of information that >is designated to storing pleasurable measures? I >imagine that if there is a physical dependency >involved, the brain will receive information that the >body is uncomfortable and will want to do the event >that will make it feel better. But, if the craving is >not physical, where in the mind does the craving come from? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: "Ben Osborne" >Organization: Salt Lake Community College >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:24:10 MDT >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] addiction >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >Understanding that the mind is just a series of chemical >connections and reactions, one begins to see that chemical >dependency is as basic as one's sense of hunger. Many of the >drugs used mimic neurotransmitters naturally found in the body >(such as the euphoric drugs and opioids with Epinephrine and >norepinephrine). The nerve cells themselves often become >accostomed to constantly being in a state of polarization and when >the substance is removed, the nerve propogates a signal to many >areas of the brain, including the hypothalamus and other lower >brain structures. This is very similar to the responses from nerve >cells the aortic arch which detect oxygen levels and pressure in the >vessels which tells your body to breath and urinate. Also, when >the site on the nerve is constantly firing, connections between the >nerves in the synaptic cleft become larger to accomodate the >increased flow of neurotransmitters which makes it more difficult to >"kick" the habbit. Many neurobiologists/psychologists believe that >conditioning is a result of larger connections between neurons. I'm >not sure, however,if there is an actual place in the brain that >remembers how it feels and wants it again as much as it is the >connections between neurons and the reinforcement they get from >constant use. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "Ben Osborne" >Organization: Salt Lake Community College >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:27:52 MDT >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Re: Eye Witness accounts! >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I believe Dr. Strayer will lecture on this (eye witness accounts) >next hour, but I'll try to give a preview. Many times we do not >accurately see what happens. People then begin to subtly implant >things into our head, i.e. the police might say while looking at >pictures "that's who we thought it was." The image of the person >on the photograph then replaces the image that we had at the time >of the incident. There are many other reasons why they are >inaccurate and often times just plain wrong that I'm sure he will >discuss in detail next time. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:04:42 -0700 >From: luana >To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" >Subject: [Psych3120] Re: stm/ltm >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > >This question is interesting. I try to think about a way to link the >spreading activation theory with a problem solving. Here's a thought: > >I have in mind a problem of chemistry. Reading its text you place >yourself conceptually in a certain context. You read about -let's say- a >chemical reaction which makes you activate the corresponding nodes >related to the chemical substances involved in the reaction, also the >nodes related to how a reaction (similar to the one in the problem) >occurs, etc. It is important, I think, to "know" what nodes to activate, >in a sense you have to create a bridge between the application you are >working on (the problem) and the network you have in mind. That's why it >is important to read the problem carefully so you can really get the >meaning, the context, the request of that problem (you relate the "new" >with what you already know). >Then I think that finding an intersection where all these nodes' >activation meet is important, that helps you to find the solution. In my >mind, this happens when the parts get connected, the problem is a more >"coherent" body, therefore the solution rises as a "normal" resultant of >that specific context. >Finding the intersection is not an easy part, sometimes, it takes a long >way for the different activation "branches" to encounter each other, you >may go around (different nodes) a lot. >The best solution is usually considered the simplest one. In the light >of the spreading activation memory, maybe this translates into finding >the shortest linkage between different concepts. That's (part of) why >solving problems makes one understand and know better the theory. A >problem either reinforces old links or creates new, shorter (more >efficient) ones. Problem solving also helps our mind practice a lot and >improve the ability to find such connections. >Isn't true, in a way, that after a lot of problem solving our knowledge >(implicitly, our memory) has a slightly different structure? > >Anyway, it's just my idea... > >Any other thoughts? > >Luana > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:26:58 -0700 >From: Karen Pratt >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Re: [Psych3120] emotional memory >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >That exact same thing happened to me only it took me 3 days to remember the >persons name. I must have a slow memory. > > >>> Robert Macdonald 03/23 12:32 PM >>> >I noticed a phenomenon in my thinking this morning >that has caused me some reflection after talking about >semantic memory today. I was trying to remember >someone's name. I could see the person's face >perfectly, but I couldn't remember the name. The >strange thing was that I could almost "feel" the name. > I remembered how I felt about that person's name. >This has caused me to wonder if maybe a small piece of >emotion is attached to most things we learn. About >four hours later, I finally recalled the person's >first name-it just came out of the blue...memory is interesting! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >From: AYELEL@aol.com >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:01:04 EST >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] class activity >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >This is in response to the 2 comments posted on the message board about the >second part of the class activity on thursday. I think that if you did what >Dr. Strayer said, and that was to say something totally unrelated to what >the >person before you said, then it really was more difficult, and more time >was >spent searching for an answer. The brain is set up so that information is >stored with other information that it is related to. When you are asked to >look up information that has nothing to do with another piece of >information, >then your brain will take longer to process the information. Therefore, if >you honestly didn't have a response waiting (I didn't), then this second >part >of the activity proves to be more time consuming then the first part. >ally longworth > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:36:23 -0700 (MST) >From: T Kilgore >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Lure cues >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I found myself using lure cues or guiding words when I was asking my boss >if i could take the company van on an errand of mine. I said it's "just" >down to crossroads mall. I used that one little word 'just' to try and >get him to think that it was not as far away as it really was. If I had >said, " it's all the way down to crossroads mall" than I'm almost sure he >would have said no, even though I was essentially asking if I could go to >the very same place. subtle words like "just" can be manipulative and can >guide people's cognition. > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >End of Psych3120 Digest ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 16:31:28 2000 Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29054 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:31:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000328233346.23335.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.186.21] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:33:46 PST Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:33:46 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1264095060-954286426=:1814" Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: FW: Missing child - Please forward --0-1264095060-954286426=:1814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. --0-1264095060-954286426=:1814 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: rodkellycaleb@yahoo.com via web3301.mail.yahoo.com X-Track2: 2 X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu (155.100.100.69) by mta134.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 22:35:06 -0000 Received: from gwmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.43]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with SMTP id <0FRY009726QHEL@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for rodkellycaleb@yahoo.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from GWY-Message_Server by gwmail.med.utah.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:35:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:34:56 -0700 From: Kristina McAffee Subject: Fwd: FW: Missing child - Please forward To: AAMSRM@aol.com, MMjmcafee@cs.com, lmcafee@dps.state.ut.us, Bonnie.Bruening@hsc.utah.edu, Cheryl.Bowles@hsc.utah.edu, Courtney.Sather@hsc.utah.edu, srmaam@home.com, hbm1@juno.com, HKWfamilywvc@juno.com, kdrd@sisna.com, rlmcafee@sisna.com, ogden.b.j@worldnet.att.net, rodkellycaleb@yahoo.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-Length: 21844 Received: from hscmail.med.utah.edu ([155.100.100.69]) by GWDOM2-MED.med.utah.edu; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:02:09 -0700 Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) id <0FRT00I01QVIVN@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for uhc.rmec.ncumming@gwmail.med.utah.edu (ORCPT rfc822;Naomi.Cummings@hsc.utah.edu); Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:02:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from cranmail.traco.com ([208.154.37.34]) by hscmail.med.utah.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #39893) with ESMTP id <0FRT00IETQVH7C@hscmail.med.utah.edu> for Naomi.Cummings@hsc.utah.edu; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:02:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by cranmail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:00:44 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:00:43 -0500 From: Michele Spirk Subject: FW: Missing child - Please forward To: "'terabass@gateway.net'" , Mary Conglose , Maria Mion , Helen Christy , Marcy McGowan , Brian Carryer , Jeniffer Homison , "'cheryl@hakanson.com'" , "'Naomi.Cummings@hsc.utah.edu'" , Melanie Mathieson , Mike Muscarella , Adele Wise , Kristine Appley Message-id: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_EAB3048C.71106458" --=_EAB3048C.71106458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline -----Original Message----- From: Scott Roy=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 7:56 AM To: Michele Spirk Subject: FW: Missing child - Please forward > > > >>> > > > > * >>> > > > Date sent: 14-Feb-00 21:10:04 -0500 > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > >This message has attachments; click 'Attachment' to see = them. > > > >>> > > >* > >> > >> I have a 5 year old daughter named > > > >>> > > >* > >> > >> Kelsey Brooke Jones. 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From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 18:14:13 2000 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00984 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:14:12 -0700 (MST) From: JannetteBireley@att.net Received: from william ([12.72.136.216]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000329011148.NJW25500.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@william> for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:11:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf991c$979c4c40$d888480c@william> To: "University of Utah" Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:17:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF98E1.E9D558C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] hypnosis and memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF98E1.E9D558C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are memories that are uncoverd during hypnosis very reliable? 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Are memories that are uncoverd during hypnosis very=20 reliable?  Or, are they just a questionable as eye-witness=20 testimony?
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF98E1.E9D558C0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 20:02:15 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f33.hotmail.com [209.185.131.96]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02955 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:02:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 73568 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2000 03:04:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329030442.73567.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.11.217.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:04:42 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.11.217.114] From: "Greg Manolakis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:04:42 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Would anyone be interested in attending a study group. If so please post a message or e-mail me at gmanolakis@hotmail.com . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 20:09:12 2000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.199]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03083 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:09:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Lyuga0rAVu7XHZ3rA7Je7fgEydjLLtQVZ0J0/R6U0oIaF1+viq+1OQ=="> Received: (from spunkysparks@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E4AZUZBS; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:09:31 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:28:28 -0700 Message-ID: <20000328.202828.-348233.0.spunkysparks@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Kristy L Sparks Subject: [Psych3120] Charley Sparks- eye witness testimony Today we talked about eye witness testimony and photo line- ups and how perception can reconstruct memory to negate the reliability of this testimony. I also read the story called "What Jennifer Saw" and I was struck by her comment at the end when she said that even though the man that was origionally convicted was acquited, she still saw his face in her mind when she remembered the incident. Her perception and memory were colored by the events that led to his conviction. When I was working at a bank brancha couple of years ago I had to identify a man from a photo lineup. I had caught the man trying to cash a stolen check. It had been a very busy day and I was'nt paying much attention to how people looked. When I caught on that he was trying to cash a stolen check he realised this and ran out the door. I never got a god look at him. All that I had was his fake ID that he had given me. I couldn't be sure that it was him in the photo. We got his liscence plate number from his car and the police later arrested him. The detectives came to the bank and had me look at a group of ohotos. I told them that I had not really seen him and that I wasn't sure that I could identify him. When I looked at the pictures the features of one man seemed to jump out at me and i told the detectives that I was sure that it was him. They told me that he was the man that they had arrested. I never had to give my testimony in court because when the detectives told the man that I had identified him he admitted to the crime and is now serving 10 to 30 years on several charges. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Mar 28 22:18:19 2000 Received: from web1102.mail.yahoo.com (web1102.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.122]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05348 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:18:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 4956 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2000 05:21:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329052117.4955.qmail@web1102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.251.23] by web1102.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:21:17 PST Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:21:17 -0800 (PST) From: charlie huff To: "psych class" "message board" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] smith model In the Smith model (feature comparison model) it is said that there is a "global feature comparison" in stage one and that stage II is where the "defining features" are compared. Does this mean that stage I is comparing characteristic features? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 09:28:19 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f25.hotmail.com [209.185.131.88]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17014 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:28:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 83348 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2000 16:30:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329163046.83347.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.88 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:30:45 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.88] From: "brandi hawker" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: brandihawker@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:30:45 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Encoding Specifity The principle of encoding specifity states that we encode associated material along with target information as we aquire information.Is this more powerful than aready associated information? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 09:39:25 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f258.hotmail.com [209.185.130.174]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17233 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:39:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 4367 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2000 16:41:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329164152.4366.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.181.85.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:41:52 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.181.85.195] From: "Melinda Telford" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:41:52 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] memory supplements Do the herbs that are advertised as "memory enhancer" really work? I think its ginkoba or eckonasia or one of them. I always thought it was a bunch of crap, especially now that I know how memory works. But is it possible that some kind of supplement will boost certain hormones or elements in the brain? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 09:46:03 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f291.hotmail.com [209.185.130.230]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA17452 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:46:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 20647 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2000 16:48:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329164830.20646.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.181.85.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:48:30 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.181.85.195] From: "Melinda Telford" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:48:30 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] memory and dreams Some people summarize dreams as being the brain's attempt of making sense of certain scenes throughout the day. If this is true, then short term memory would seem to stay in memory longer than 15-20 seconds. This point aside, how does the brain "pick" what memories to dream about. I know every psychologist would explain this differently but is there a more basic physical explanation as to why we dream what we dream? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:16:08 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06196 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:16:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 87DDD569A2; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:13:46 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: haw1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: haw1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: haw1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.251.14 Message-Id: <20000329231346.87DDD569A2@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:13:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] postings I hope this works. I talked to Wally on Tuesday and he said I should e-mail the last few postings because I haven't been able to get on the message board. So, here are my last 5 postings. I believe I am now caught up on my postings through this week. Could you check and let me know for sure? 1) My question has to do with serial position curves. De resency and primacy effects work in settings other than lists of unrelated words? In a lecture class, for example, do people remember things from the beginning and end of class better than the stuff in the middle? 2) Collins and Quillian's experiment talks about levels of sentences. The book says that "a robin is an animal" is a level 2 sentance and "a robin as a red breast" is a level 0. What makes them level 0, 1, or 2? Does it depend only on whether they're superordinate or property? 3) I had a real experience with resency and primacy effects. I had a yoga test and had to remember the names of all the moves we did in order. I studied the list by reherals and chunking and mnemonics. When I took the test I remembered the beginning and end of the list very quickly and had to think herder about the middle and remembered it because of the mnemonics I had used. 4) Neeley's and Collin'sexperiments are interesting but how do their findings relate to anything pratical in the real world? 5) I have a question on the study guide question 6. What are the experiments that support primacy and recency effects? Are they the ones where people memorized lists of words and had to recall them a certian time later? Thanks, Heidi From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:17:25 2000 Received: from web3303.mail.yahoo.com (web3303.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.145]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06240 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000329223919.26375.qmail@web3303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.185.208] by web3303.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:39:19 PST Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] "What Jennifer Saw" I just finished reading What Jennifer Saw. Talk about a tragedy. It is amazing that memory can be faulty in a situation such as rape. This was very traumatic for Jennifer, and she was still in fear of her life when she looked at her attacker. Her sympathetic nervous system would have been very aroused, and I thought that our fight/flight responses helped with memory.???? It was tragic that she was victimized again and again by the medical and rape kit examinations, by multiple trials, and finally by being told that she was wrong: "We had made a mistake and I had contributed to taking away 11 years of this man's life, and if, indeed, we had been wrong, I_I felt so bad. I felt_I fell apart." From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:17:33 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06303 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27847 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:05:30 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E28C01.6E7FC71@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:04:33 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] eye witness accounts References: <20000328232757.44179.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This relates to several messages that have been posted about eyewitness testimony and its reliability in court. A few people have asked, either difrectly or indirectly why it is still used if it often results in false convictions. This is a growing concern in the legal profession, but a big part of the problem is education. Most people assume that memory is reliable, and primarily reproductive. That's the intuitive thing to think based on experiences. Consequently, change is slow... But just to throw gasoline on the fire, what do people think would happen to the court system if eyewitness testimony were done away with? What would court cases be based on, especially if there was no physical evidence? Would certain crimes, such as say, theft, be unprosecutable? Wally From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:17:33 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06328 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27519 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:03:25 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E28B81.715ECA5C@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:02:25 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] memory and dreams References: <20000329164830.20646.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, sort of. Though most would'nt consider this to be short-term memory. Remember that once something has passed from consciousness, it's out of short-term memory (though it could be brought back in later). As far as dreams go, one theory that I kind of like has REM sleep playing a role in consolidation, which is the process of adding new information to long-term memory. Dreams could be some residual effect of this process, as memories from the past day are consolidated. The important brain structure for consolidation is presumed to be the hippocampus - it's not important for short-term memory, and it doesn't permanently house long-term memories, but it participates in the transfer of the former into the latter. For this reason, some consider the hippocampus to be an in-between "intermediate-term" memory. Wally Melinda Telford wrote: > Some people summarize dreams as being the brain's attempt of making sense of > certain scenes throughout the day. If this is true, then short term memory > would seem to stay in memory longer than 15-20 seconds. > > This point aside, how does the brain "pick" what memories to dream about. I > know every psychologist would explain this differently but is there a more > basic physical explanation as to why we dream what we dream? > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:17:35 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06332 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26506 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:53:11 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E2891D.35C2DC31@psych.utah.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:52:13 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] CHAPTER 11 References: <851200E65752D211BC89006008CE5353F88279@Z9999021.core.afcc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope. Chapter 11 is for next Thursday, the class after the exam. Wally "Rock, Jason" wrote: > Is material from chapter 11 going to be covered on the test? > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:21:37 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06648 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:21:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [128.110.194.254] (biol-30.biology.utah.edu [128.110.194.254]) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA09964 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:03:58 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: tlk1@u.cc.utah.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:03:52 -0700 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: Tyler Keate Subject: [Psych3120] Childhood memories I really enjoyed Tuesday's lecture. I have often thought about my childhood memories. I have wondered how much I really remember and how much my brother and parents have told me about that is now committed to my memory. For example, when I was two years old, I would waddle up to the t.v. while my older brother was watching Sesame Street and turn the t.v. off and run from him. I can really see my self doing that, but I have always wondered whether or not it was an actual memory. Does that make sense? Now I know that it wasn't and probably most of my childhood memories aren't actually memories at all. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 17:33:57 2000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06943 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:33:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 13223 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2000 22:50:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20000329225012.13222.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.252.128] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:50:12 PST Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Clark To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] eyewitness testimony I would suspect the reliablity of eyewitness testimony to increase if the witness new the accused before the incident. For example, a rape victim who new her attacker before the incident I think would identify him with good accuracy. Is this true? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 18:02:41 2000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.1]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07584 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:02:40 -0700 (MST) From: Kaigan13@aol.com Received: from Kaigan13@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.d2.1f4675c (3896) for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:05:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:05:04 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 61 Subject: [Psych3120] Clueness!! My question has to due with the class activity on Tuesday. I don't understand why and individual doesn't know that they are taking to different people. The activity was the one individual asked for direction and the other told where the specific places was, but workers walked by and the individual asking for direction switched places with the worker. The individual giving the direction didn't even notice. My question is how did the individual not notice that they weren't talking to the same individual? Is it the fact that the individual really isn't paying attention? I miss the reason why in class. So if someone could answer my question, that would be great. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 19:21:25 2000 Received: from mail.networld.com (mail.networld.com [207.247.96.103]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09051 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:21:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from networld.com (208.247.97.235) by mail.networld.com with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.20.01 AS-0098319) for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:22:30 -0700 Message-ID: <38E2BD4D.E805B3DB@networld.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:34:53 -0700 From: albert dixon Reply-To: dixn@networld.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Psych3120] cell phones I read a newspaper article I thought was pretty funny, regarding cell phones and children in elementary school. It seems that in Italy (thank goodness it's there and not here in the US, not yet anyway!), the latest fad is children taking their cell phones to class. In one case students were ducking under their desk to call their parents or friends. Another case a student called her mother to complain after she was reprimanded by a teacher. Not surprisingly, the principle finally banned the cell phones in class. I just thought that I would share this, since we had a lecture on attention the use of cell phones and driving. I wonder how much attention those students were paying in class? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 19:51:56 2000 Received: from slcc.edu (mail.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.196]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09601 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:51:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from GROUP001-Message_Server by slcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:54:43 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:51:42 -0700 From: Karen Pratt To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] parrot memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id TAA09602 I have a 9 ˝ week old puppy and I think that there is definitely cognition there. When I give her a command I can see her contemplating what she wants to do. >>> Walter Herbranson 03/21 10:37 AM >>> Now you've gotten me started. This is one of my favorite topics in cognitive psychology - comparative cognition. I tend to beleive that most of the things that we cover in this class can be applied, to some extent, to animals (though this must be done carefully!) However, not everyone beleives this. There are many who view animals as passive responders to the environment. That is, that there is a stimulus and a response, but no cognition in between. Which is right? That's impossible to prove definitively... Before I ramble too long, anyone else have any thoughts on this? Wally Sean Clark wrote: > I found Matt's contribution very interesting and I > wonder how animal's memory and intelligence relates to > training animals. Are theories of cognition > applicable to animals? My girlfriend's dog does all > kinds of tricks, is he smarter or just better trained > than my parents dog that still won't sit, stay, or not > jump on people. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 20:24:45 2000 Received: from smtp.efortress.com (smtp.efortress.com [205.181.175.207]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10176 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:24:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer ([192.41.72.74]) by smtp.efortress.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA01652 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:27:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01bf99f7$f67e2fe0$4a4829c0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> From: "Darren Schmidt" To: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:28:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF99BD.49145080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF99BD.49145080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found todays class very interesting. This year I have been teaching = an Old Testament class at one of the high schools in the valley. The = students were especially interested in the story of Moses and the = children of Israel crossing the red sea. Whether or not one believes = the story to be fact is their own personal opinion. The thing that the = students have often questioned though, is the fact that the children of = Israel forgot and went to their old wicked ways despite seeing the sea = divided. They often wonder how this could have happened. I was = intrigued to find out how easily a person can reconstruct a memory. = Jesus Christ himself in The New Testament must have understood this = principle. He says "Ye seek me not because ye saw the miracles, but = because ye did eat of the bread and were filled." For one who has a = great personal interest in religion I found the information shared in = class today to be very rewarding. Thanks! 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I found todays class very = interesting.  This=20 year I have been teaching an Old Testament class at one of the high = schools in=20 the valley.  The students were especially interested in the story = of Moses=20 and the children of Israel crossing the red sea.  Whether or not = one=20 believes the story to be fact is their own personal opinion.  The = thing=20 that the students have often questioned though, is the fact that the = children of=20 Israel forgot and went to their old wicked ways despite seeing = the sea=20 divided.  They often wonder how this could have = happened.  I was=20 intrigued to find out  how easily a person can reconstruct a = memory. =20 Jesus Christ himself in The New Testament must have understood this=20 principle.  He says "Ye seek me not because ye saw the miracles, = but=20 because ye did eat of the bread and were filled."  For one who = has a=20 great personal interest in  religion I found the information shared = in=20 class today to be very rewarding.  Thanks!     = Darren=20 Schmidt
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF99BD.49145080-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Mar 29 21:28:41 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11341 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:28:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 5697 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 04:31:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330043109.5696.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.251.27 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:31:08 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.251.27] From: "matt anderson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:31:08 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] related to state dependent learning In another class I am learning about drug addiction and overdose. We learned that people gain tolerance for a drug not only physically, but also depending on their surroundings. For example, a person who has been doing heroin for a number of years is able to take much more than a person who is trying it for the first time, especially if they are always doing it in a familiar place. If you take that same person and put them in a completely different environment, but still give them the same large dosage that they usually take, they will usually overdose. The reason is that their body associates certain places with heroin use and is able to start to compensate for it before the drug is actually in the body. When a person is in the new environment their body doesn't compensate as well. This shows that we associate many things with our environment. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 08:42:56 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23229 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:42:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 0E204565A8; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:45:53 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120 From: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.132 Message-Id: <20000330154553.0E204565A8@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:45:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] memory in high stress situations In high stress situations where our memories perform poorer, is it possible that we can focus our attention on one thing to remember that instead? Like if we are being robbed and notice a tatoo on the guys hand that's holding the gun, will we be able to remember that tatoo in detail if we focus on it? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 08:52:51 2000 Received: from dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (postfix@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu [155.99.1.150]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23457 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:52:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu (Postfix, from userid 199) id 0E4E156978; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:55:48 -0700 (MST) To: psych3120 From: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu Reply-To: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.11 Sender: mba1@u.cc.utah.edu X-Originating-IP: 128.110.29.132 Message-Id: <20000330155548.0E4E156978@dorothy.ks.cc.utah.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:55:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Psych3120] Example of filling in pieces When I was driving to the U one day last year, I rounded the bend on I-215 by the 6400 s exit (near the mouth of big cottonwood canyon). There was a puddle of water on the freeway that when I hit it made me start to spin out. I was in the left lane going about 70mph. I know that I hit the cement wall and I thought it was on the drivers side. I felt like I spun around once and I ended up facing the wrong direction, perfectly parked in the emergency lane on the left side. When I got out, I found that the only damage was on the passenger's side rear bumper. My mind went through and filled in the info. I figured that I spun aroud 180 degrees, hit the wall with my right rear bumper, spun around another 360 degrees and ended up facing the wrong way. This last scenario is what my mind beleives happened now because it filled in the missing facts. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 10:25:40 2000 Received: from web3204.mail.yahoo.com (web3204.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.201]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25223 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:39 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000330172807.21083.qmail@web3204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.139.252] by web3204.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:28:07 PST Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] prolonged acquisition In reference to prolonged acquisition there are 2 important components associated with it, over learning and distributed practice. I understand what distributed practice is and what it consists of, but what-technically speaking- is over learning, and how is it done? Is over learning beneficial, or does it hinder prolonged acquisition? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 10:28:16 2000 Received: from web3205.mail.yahoo.com (web3205.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.202]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25270 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:28:16 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000330173043.540.qmail@web3205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.139.252] by web3205.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:30:43 PST Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] memorization task When someone has to memorize something like a 10 page monologue, which techniques would be most useful? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 12:35:09 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f187.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.187]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27662 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:35:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24429 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 19:37:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330193735.24428.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.27.109 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:37:35 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.27.109] From: "Marianne Oliverson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:37:35 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Eye Witness Testimony Today in class we watched a documentary program involving a woman who was raped and her inaccurate eye witness testimony. I guess it makes perfect sense that we don't remember things as well when our level of arousal is very low, but today we learned that we also don't remember when are level of arousal is very high. I guess that I previously thought that in the moment that some kind a violation happens against a victim, they would remember the details because they are so alert. I remember running alone one night and this car was following me for the longest time. I don't know if they were after me or were just lost, but I jumped a fence and could see their license so I remembered it. I remembered it 10 minutes later when I got home and told my parents about it. I think that much of the reason for inaccurate eye witness testimony's could be people's different perceptions and ways of looking at things. In her case, she just may of been one of those people who don't recognize faces very well and don't pay attention to details. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 12:41:11 2000 Received: from venus.gse.utah.edu (venus.gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27881 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:41:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from gse.utah.edu (gse.utah.edu [128.110.237.2]) by venus.gse.utah.edu (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA01283 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:51:08 -0700 Message-Id: <200003301951.MAA01283@venus.gse.utah.edu> Received: from GSE-SOL/SpoolDir by gse.utah.edu (Mercury 1.44); 30 Mar 00 12:47:15 -700 Received: from SpoolDir by GSE-SOL (Mercury 1.44); 30 Mar 00 12:47:10 -700 From: "Bobbi Davis" Organization: Graduate School of Education To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:47:04 MST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Bobbi Davis" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Subject: [Psych3120] Eyewitness testimony I believe that eyewitness testimony can be inaccurate. I witness a man on a bike being hit by a car about two years ago. I stayed to give my testimony to the police. I was pretty shaken up and when it came time for me to write down what I saw, I really had a hard time with the specifics. If you asked me what I saw, I could tell you - a man on a bike being it by a car. But the specifics - time of day, how fast the car was going, what kind of car, where was the man at when he was hit, did the car try to stop before hitting the man, etc. It was difficult to piece together. Two other eyewitnesses stayed to give their accounts. We were looking at the accident from different angles - literally and symbolically. It would be interesting now to see what they wrote. Bobbi Davis bdavis@gse.utah.edu From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 12:46:51 2000 Received: from ww183.netaddress.usa.net (ww183.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.83]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA28013 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:46:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17745 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Mar 2000 19:49:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330194949.17744.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.83 by ww183 for [216.160.234.134] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Thu Mar 30 19:49:49 GMT 2000 Date: 30 Mar 00 11:49:49 PST From: jeff gratton To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id MAA28014 Subject: [Psych3120] innocent prisoners At the end of the film today, Dr. Strayer took questions from the class, which was very informative. But he also made a comment that I don't understand and cannot forget. He said that recently the trend in the prison and legal systems is to NOT reopen cases that would allow DNA evidence to prove or disprove someone's innocence. I don't get it!! He cited recent findings that show that approximately one-third of prisoners serving time for rape do not match the DNA and physical evidence of the person who actually committed the crime. Why would our system then supress evidence that could potentially change a person's life, but ultimately strenghthen our legal system and it's findings. Our country has proportionately more criminals incarcerated than any other, and not trying to find fault with our justice system, to me it seems like a huge relief that there is a distinct possibility that a significant percentage of those in prison could be innocent of the crime for which they have been convicted. Not to say that they are absolved of all guilt, in general, because most criminals are multiple repeat offenders, but why would we as a nation not want to sort this out?? Any thoughts? Nellie Haws - jeffreynellie@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 13:08:08 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28408 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:08:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [128.110.194.32] (bml-28.biology.utah.edu [128.110.194.32]) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13577 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:11:05 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: tlk1@u.cc.utah.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:11:00 -0700 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu From: Tyler Keate Subject: [Psych3120] Memory and emotions Is our memory related in any way to our emotions? As I look back at my memories, a few really stand out; those when I was scared to death and those that really upset me or where shocking to me. I can still remember when I was about five- or six-years-old and I was lying in the lower bunk and my older brother poked his head out from the top bunk and asked, "Tyler, is that big a black paw behind your head?" I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I was seven-years-old and I heard that my dad had just gone to the hospital because of a brain hemorrhage. Why do we remember some event better than others? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 13:19:26 2000 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.31]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28623 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:19:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from vaio - 63.24.24.219 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:21:23 -0800 Message-ID: <001b01bf9a91$a29878a0$db18183f@vaio> From: "Cara Jo" To: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:48:03 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [Psych3120] reconstruction I find it interesting how Bartletts study showed how we reconstruct memories by integrating our own knowledge of an event. I wonder how this relates to dreams. It seems memories of dreams seem complete, until one tries to verbally recollect the dream. Many times one must substitute or add information to make sense of the image for others. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 13:54:24 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.175]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29316 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:54:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 75594 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 20:56:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330205651.75593.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.110.251.20 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:56:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.110.251.20] From: "matt anderson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:56:51 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] the innocence project I recently did a paper on the Innocence Project and have become really interested in DNA testing and the number of innocent people that are in jail. I really liked the movie that we watched today, but I think that it's weird that our court system isn't more helpful to the Innocence Project in trying to help people who could be innocent get out of jail. It seems like they don't want to admit that they have been wrong and are being stubborn, at the expense of the inmates. The Innocence Project screens all of the letters they get and only look seriously at the ones where the only evidence against the inmate was eyewitness testimony. Since they have started they have helped about 70 innocent people get out of jail. In addition to that, 60% of the DNA samples they test come back in their clients favor. I don't understand why the court system is so reluctant to reopen cases where there is a good possibility that the person could be innocent. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 14:52:51 2000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00437 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:52:51 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.57.3b12868 (3937) for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:54:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <57.3b12868.2615272f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:54:55 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] memory/talk on Fri (31st) Enjoyed the frontline documentary today in class, can't believe how fallible memory can be...I think one of the tragedies that was not covered in the discussion afterwards was the fact that law enforcement is under intense public pressure to find the criminals, especially in cases of rape and murder. The police want to do their jobs, yet they sometimes are pushed to finding the perpetrator too hard, as the prosecutor is to convict once they have someone, which can lead to false arrests and convictions. Having an innocent person spend time in jail is the worst injustice of all. Also, just a reminder that there will be a talk on this same subject given by two of the defense attorneys seen in the film today; Peter Neufel and Barry Siegel (they were on the OJ Simpson murder trial). The talk is tomorrow (31st) at 11am and according to the campus paper is in the Sutherland Moot Courtroom...must be the school of law. grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 18:55:58 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.105]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04950 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:55:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 86942 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 01:58:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000331015826.86941.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.24.24.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:58:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.24.24.61] From: "Kristin Paige" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:58:26 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] childhood memories I just wanted to elaborate on some of the other messages that have been posted about childhood memories. Why is it that I can remember very little about being a kid? It's almost as if I have blocked out everything before I was like 10 years old. I don't even remember things after seeing pictures and hearing other people tell the stories. Is there anything I can do to help with recall? Also, I was kind of shocked by the movie we saw in class today. I would hope that I would be able to make an accurate identification if something like that had happened to me. Kristin Paige ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 20:10:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f166.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.166]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06296 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 33617 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 03:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000331031322.33616.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.79.105.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:13:22 PST X-Originating-IP: [216.79.105.22] From: "Candace Curzon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:13:22 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] eyewitness testimony After watching that video today "What Jennifer Saw", it seems that there should be some sort of law put into effect that would not allow anyone convicted of a crime put onto death row unless there was DNA proof that that person committed the crime. That wouldn't stop innocent people from being convicted of a crime, but at least innocent people would not be killed. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 20:43:00 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (f252.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.77]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06878 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:42:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 46953 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 03:45:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000331034527.46952.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.79.105.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:45:27 PST X-Originating-IP: [216.79.105.22] From: "Candace Curzon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:45:27 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] eyewitness accounts I had an experience a few weeks ago that made me realize that I don't always see things as they really are. I was leaving the parking lot up by the OSH building and I wasn't paying attention when I pulled out. The parking lot sloped down and there was a ledge with a high curb that had bushes below it. I went over the curb and my car basically only had one wheel one the ground, the drivers front wheel. The passenger side was hanging off the drop and the back wheels were up in the air. My car was balancing on its belly and front left wheel. Luckily some guys came by and picked up the back wheels and moved it over. I was shaky and really upset. I had really damaged my car. When I called my dad to tell him what I had done (I wasn't at the school anymore), I told him that I had almost dropped down a 5 foot cliff, and that I couldn't believe that I hadn't done more damage (I had $300 worth of damage). When I walked by the parking lot the next day, I saw that it was only about a 1 foot drop. That just showed me that our perceptions can be very different when you're in a stressful situation. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Mar 30 23:18:54 2000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09578 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:18:53 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.b7.1d1812d (4224) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:21:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:21:20 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] What Jennifer Saw I thought the Frontline story that we watched in class today was very disturbing, yet interesting. It seems so unfortunate that sometimes the only witness, as in most rape cases, isn't an accurate one. Jennifer was so intent on looking at her attacker for later identification, and yet she still made a mistake. I think DNA evidence will be of great help to victims, and to those wrongly accused. It also seems so ironic that someone could be a better witness to a nearby mugging than to an attack upon themselves? I base this on our discussion about the stress/memory curve. Before the video today, I would guessed that a close attack would be easier to remember, but this case showed that our memory doesn't work that way. Something to think about. Anna Fonnesbeck From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 08:53:06 2000 Received: from slcc.edu (mail.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.196]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA19550 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:53:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from GROUP001-Message_Server by slcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:58:45 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:55:35 -0700 From: Karen Pratt To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] innocent prisoners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I think that in all cases where there is DNA evidence available, the case should always be reopened. I don't understand why they wouldn't do this. Prisons are overcrowded as it is and it is sad to think that there are many innocent people in there that don't have to be. Karen >>> jeff gratton 09/03 1:49 PM >>> At the end of the film today, Dr. Strayer took questions from the class, which was very informative. But he also made a comment that I don't understand and cannot forget. He said that recently the trend in the prison and legal systems is to NOT reopen cases that would allow DNA evidence to prove or disprove someone's innocence. I don't get it!! He cited recent findings that show that approximately one-third of prisoners serving time for rape do not match the DNA and physical evidence of the person who actually committed the crime. Why would our system then supress evidence that could potentially change a person's life, but ultimately strenghthen our legal system and it's findings. Our country has proportionately more criminals incarcerated than any other, and not trying to find fault with our justice system, to me it seems like a huge relief that there is a distinct possibility that a significant percentage of those in prison could be innocent of the crime for which they have been convicted. Not to say that they are absolved of all guilt, in general, because most criminals are multiple repeat offenders, but why would we as a nation not want to sort this out?? Any thoughts? Nellie Haws - jeffreynellie@netscape.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 09:07:22 2000 Received: from web3606.mail.yahoo.com (web3606.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.110]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA19858 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:07:22 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331161236.6414.qmail@web3606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.110.27.68] by web3606.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:12:36 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:12:36 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Macdonald To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Turvine's model I have some questions about Turvine's model. What do the words, "ecphory", "conversion", and "interpolated event" mean? Also, is the last box on the bottom-left "memory performance" the end result of retrieving memory of an event? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 09:52:45 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20693 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22454 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:53:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E4E5F1.7E8D3EBA@psych.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:52:49 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] childhood memories References: <20000331015826.86941.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a pretty common thing - often referred to as 'childhood amnesia' for obvious reasons. The paradox is that we have few long-term memories from the early years, yet children display normal long-term memory. i.e., I probably couldn't tell you much about when I was 2, but when I was four I probably could have. As far as what causes it, there's a pretty good explanation that's based on state-dependent learning. I won't spoil the surprise yet - anyone want to take a stab at it? Wally Kristin Paige wrote: > I just wanted to elaborate on some of the other messages that have been > posted about childhood memories. Why is it that I can remember very little > about being a kid? It's almost as if I have blocked out everything before I > was like 10 years old. I don't even remember things after seeing pictures > and hearing other people tell the stories. Is there anything I can do to > help with recall? > > Also, I was kind of shocked by the movie we saw in class today. I would > hope that I would be able to make an accurate identification if something > like that had happened to me. > Kristin Paige > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 09:58:01 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20835 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:58:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23124 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:59:20 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E4E736.1CCC14A8@psych.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:58:15 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Turvine's model References: <20000331161236.6414.qmail@web3606.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a nice little web application accessible from the web page, under course materials. It's got the whole model, in glorious detail, and you can click on each component for a description. That should clarify most of these questions. Wally (minor detail - the correct spelling is Tulving) Robert Macdonald wrote: > I have some questions about Turvine's model. What do > the words, "ecphory", "conversion", and "interpolated > event" mean? Also, is the last box on the bottom-left > "memory performance" the end result of retrieving > memory of an event? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 11:07:48 2000 Received: from pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (jtk3@pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.7]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22164 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:07:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (jtk3@localhost) by pipt.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA14234 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:10:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:10:44 -0700 (MST) From: T Kilgore Sender: T.Kilgore@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Physiological measures???? Hey, I just need to know what some of the disadvantages to the physiological measures of testing mental workload???? I don't have any in my notes and can find none in text. Thank you. When you reply please make the subject," P. measures response" Thanks From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 12:21:41 2000 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23612 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:21:40 -0700 (MST) From: Skiler576@aol.com Received: from Skiler576@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.7d.2eef8f6 (4158) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:24:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7d.2eef8f6.26165551@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:24:01 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) I had a question about the study guide. I want to know on question # 7 in regard to the Collins and Quillian's memory model, " What are the 5 basic assumptions of the model?" From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 14:20:40 2000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25801 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:20:39 -0700 (MST) From: Cuppacrap@aol.com Received: from Cuppacrap@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.b1.2c02698 (6694) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:22:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:22:26 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Psych3120] lost(stolen?)text I just realized this am that my Textbook for the class (Ashcraft) was missing out of my backpack! I don't know what happened to it but am desperate to locate another. If anyone can help out (is there one on reserve??), I would appreciate it immensely. YOu can reach me at 355-1248 or email me at Grantsalada28664@aol.com. Thanks!! grant From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 14:55:34 2000 Received: from yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (yh26960@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26464 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:55:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (yh26960@localhost) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA25168 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:58:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:58:30 -0700 (MST) From: Y Hosseini Sender: Y.Hosseini@m.cc.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Eyewitness Account! The movie on Thursday was amazing to me because you would think that Jennifer's eyewitness account would be accurate since her main focus was on the physical features of her attacker. I guess that is why the camera was invented. I am going to try a similar experiment on my friends tonight at dinner and if I have different results than everyone else I will definitely report it. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:09:51 2000 Received: from web3207.mail.yahoo.com (web3207.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.204]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26677 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:09:50 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331221214.6248.qmail@web3207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3207.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:12:14 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:12:14 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 1 1. An experimenter performs a dual task attention experiment in which the processing priority is varied between the two tasks. The results show a linear tradeoff between performance on task A and performance on task B. What would this look like if we plotted performance using a Performance Operator Characteristic (POC) curve and what would this tell us about attention? Illustrate what would happen as subjects become more skilled in concurrently performing Task A and Task B. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:19:14 2000 Received: from web3203.mail.yahoo.com (web3203.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.200]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26892 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:19:13 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331222140.9039.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3203.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:21:40 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 4 4. Describe the procedure Brown and Peterson used to study forgetting in short term memory. What were their conclusions about the loss of information from short term memory? Waugh and Norman challenged the conclusions drawn from the Brown-Peterson paradigm. Describe Waugh and Norman procedure and discuss what their results implied about forgetting in short term memory. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:21:42 2000 Received: from web3201.mail.yahoo.com (web3201.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.198]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27019 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:21:42 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331222408.29914.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:24:08 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 5 5. What are serial position effects? How are they obtained and what do they look like? Provide a description of how have researchers interpreted the primacy and recency effects and the experimental evidence used to support this interpretation. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:24:19 2000 Received: from web3203.mail.yahoo.com (web3203.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.200]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27063 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:24:19 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331222645.9537.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3203.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:26:45 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 6 6. Briefly describe the model of episodic memory developed by Tulving. Use this framework to describe why state dependent learning occurs. Also, use this framework to account for Loftus's research on eye witness testimony. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:27:37 2000 Received: from web3205.mail.yahoo.com (web3205.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.202]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27190 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:27:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331223004.8141.qmail@web3205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3205.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:30:04 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:30:04 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 7 7. Briefly describe Collins and Quillian's model of semantic memory. What are the five basic assumptions of the model? Provide evidence supporting the model. Why do typicality effects provide problems for the model and how have researchers modified the original ideas to accommodate typicality effects? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:37:21 2000 Received: from web3205.mail.yahoo.com (web3205.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.202]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27405 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:37:21 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331223948.9133.qmail@web3205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3205.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:39:48 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:39:48 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 2 2. Suppose you were hired by Microsoft to determine the mental workload produced by a computer operating system. Briefly discuss the alternative techniques you could use to assess mental workload. What are the advantages and disadvantaged of each approach. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:40:41 2000 Received: from web3203.mail.yahoo.com (web3203.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.200]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27532 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:40:40 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331224307.11373.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3203.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:43:07 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 3 3. Briefly discuss Sternberg's memory search paradigm. What are the predictions for a serial,exhaustive search? What are the predictions for a serial, self-terminating search? What results did Sternberg obtain? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 15:43:29 2000 Received: from web3205.mail.yahoo.com (web3205.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.202]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27578 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:43:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000331224555.9749.qmail@web3205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.233] by web3205.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:45:55 PST Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-question 8 8. Describe how lexical decision tasks have been used to study semantic memory. What basic mechanism is though to underlie semantic priming effects? Describe how Neely's research provides support for the roles of automatic spreading activation and limited capacity attention in semantic retrieval. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 19:07:46 2000 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01167 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:07:46 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.8a.21abb09 (4427) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8a.21abb09.2616b47e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:10:06 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 100 Subject: [Psych3120] eye witness accounts I was surprised to learn that eye witness accounts are so inaccurate. It truly amazes me that so much is put into what people recall to be true for an event, and yet that is the most inaccurate form of reporting. I am sure that we would be surprised to know just how many people have been put away in prison's , etc., based on false reports. Are there any studies regarding this topic that are more in-depth that those discussed in class? Tammy Ziegler From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Mar 31 21:15:11 2000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03419 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:15:11 -0700 (MST) From: Grace7700@aol.com Received: from Grace7700@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.de.31814ae (4264) for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:17:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:17:32 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] skill building and sleep Interesting story on NPR's Science Friday today. A cognitive researcher from Harvard has been studying what it takes to learn a skill. Practice (repetition) is of course an important key, but equally important in their findings was sleep. Their subjects did not perform any better until they had slept for more than 6 hours. It had something to do with deep sleep, and REM patterns. Now they made the point over and over that this study focused on sleep effects on skill building, not on fact learning. However, they suspect a connecting between sleep and learning factual information, and hope to do studies concerning the two. So maybe it's a good idea for us all to get plenty of sleep this weekend. Especially after studying hard Monday night! From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 01:46:38 2000 Received: from cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08170 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:46:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mike (pub-dial40.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.42]) by cor.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA11818 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:49:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200004010849.BAA11818@cor.oz.cc.utah.edu> From: "Russell Nagle" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 02:00:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Spreading Activation I have a question about spreading activation. I understand that as I think of one concept other nodes begin to be activation. My question is, if I think of a cannary, I know yellow will be activated in the context of the bird. But is this the same yellow node for, say, the sun? Russell Nagle It has long been known that one horse can run faster than another, but which one? Differences are crucial. -Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 08:30:06 2000 Received: from ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU (ZOOMER.SLCC.edu [144.35.10.10]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA17158 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:30:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU ([144.35.1.100]) by ZOOMER.SLCC.EDU with ESMTP for psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 8:32:49 -0700 Received: from EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB/SpoolDir by ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU (Mercury 1.44); 1 Apr 00 08:32:20 MST Received: from SpoolDir by EDU-SLCC-ENGLAB (Mercury 1.44); 1 Apr 00 08:32:13 MST From: "Ben Osborne" Organization: Salt Lake Community College To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:32:12 MDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20000331222408.29914.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01b) Message-ID: <4ACADCC6EAD@ENGLAB.SLCC.EDU> Subject: [Psych3120] Movie I found the movie we watched in class most interesting and found myself looking at some of the experiences I have had with memory. I have often found it interesting with people who exagerate different circumstances or experiences often times begin to believe the exagerated version of the story as the real experience. This is yet another example of how plastic memory truly is. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 09:39:15 2000 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18390 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:39:14 -0700 (MST) From: Taz811976@aol.com Received: from Taz811976@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.67.2ac8033 (3895) for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:41:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <67.2ac8033.261780c3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:41:39 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) I myself can recall numerous events where I have exaggerated the "truth" to fit the way that I personally "perceived" the event, then the exaggerated version became truth to me; even to the extent that I no longer was able to recall the real truth of what happened. This wasn't and isn't done consciously necessarily, but is obviously human nature for how semantic memory works. This does also tie into the eye witness comments previously made by other students to include myself, but it also is something very interesting to look at alone. Recalling the number of ways that I personally have done these very things is somewhat fascinating. Tammy Ziegler From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 11:07:32 2000 Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (ww187.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.87]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19955 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:07:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22513 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2000 18:10:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000401181024.22512.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.87 by ww187 for [209.210.176.20] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Sat Apr 1 18:10:24 GMT 2000 Date: 1 Apr 00 10:10:24 PST From: Kristina Waters To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id LAA19956 Subject: [Psych3120] Eye witness testimony I have known that eye witness testimony was faulty when I was in a car accident. The driver was an unisured motorist, so the case went to small claims, I lost the lawsuit due to the fact that the judge ruled it a no fault. The defense called in three witnesses that apparently saw the accident happen, and all three said that I was traveling at a high speed, when the other car turned into me, and the high momentum caused me not to be able to stop. Well as I tried to retort, I explained to the judge that the collision happened 10 feet from where I entered the left turning lane from a dead stop. But apparently according to the witnesses, I was traveling 50-55 mph. Well it still amazes me to this day how I can get up to 55mphfroma dead stop in 10 feet, my car must have great accelearion. My whole take on this is that those eye witnesses may have only minorly saw the wreck, but had no idea at what speed I was driving, so when asked they made it sound higher. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 13:32:58 2000 Received: from pangea.csbs.utah.edu (pangea [128.110.112.12]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22504 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:32:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from psych.utah.edu (terak.psych.utah.edu [128.110.110.225]) by pangea.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21487 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:34:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <38E66B21.8BBA7189@psych.utah.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:33:21 -0700 From: Walter Herbranson Organization: University of Utah Psychology Dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Re: [Psych3120] Physiological measures???? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are a few weaknesses that are common to just about any physiological measure of a cognitive process. If you think about what you're measuring in these cases, it can get difficult to say anything conclusive. A physiological measure often varies along with a cognitive construct, like work load, but the actual relationship between the two is unclear. It would certainly be a mistake to claim that any physiological measure IS mental workload. So interpreting one as such is dangerous. In addition, there is a huge amount of variance in how different people respond physiologically. Similar mental workload might produce radically different physiological responses in different people - so they need to be interpreted with care. T Kilgore wrote: > Hey, I just need to know what some of the disadvantages to the > physiological measures of testing mental workload???? I don't have any in > my notes and can find none in text. Thank you. > > When you reply please make the subject," P. measures response" Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 14:28:56 2000 Received: from web3301.mail.yahoo.com (web3301.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.24]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA23481 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:28:55 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000401213114.27224.qmail@web3301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.54.180.164] by web3301.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 13:31:14 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rod McAfee To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] coin-recognition test In the text, there is a coin-recognition test. There are fifteen different versions of pennies, and the participant's task is to simply pick out which one is correct. The text explains how we "misremember" experiences and are often overconfident when we are incorrect. Less than a month ago I encountered this same task in a text for Adult Development And Aging. I was unable to do it correctly then, but I did study a penny at that time. A few weeks later I am sad to report that I was still unsure which penny was the correct one. Perhaps my memory wasn't that good because of the "inverted U" that Dr. Strayer spoke of in class. Maybe there was so little stress concerning this coin-recognition task that I just couldn't recall it. It is disturbing to me, however, considering how many thousands of times I have handled pennies in my life. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 16:32:17 2000 Received: from gwmta2.weber.edu (gwmta2.weber.edu [137.190.1.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25640 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:32:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from campus-Message_Server by gwmta2.weber.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:36:17 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:35:48 -0700 From: "JOSH HOLDSTOCK" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id QAA25641 Subject: [Psych3120] What Jen Saw I have always felt really dumb when people ask me to describe someone because I don't really quite know how to do it. I read the message concerning the girl who was followed by a car while jogging and she said that 10 minutes later she had no problem remembering the license plate #. I got to wondering. Is part of the reason why Eye Whitness testimony is so unrelyable, in the case of face recognition, because perhaps describing a persons features is not something a lot of people do very often? In the case of lisence plate numbers, that is something famililar and therefor easier to remember. What are your thoughts on that? From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 16:47:54 2000 Received: from gwmta2.weber.edu (gwmta2.weber.edu [137.190.1.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25938 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:47:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from campus-Message_Server by gwmta2.weber.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:52:23 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:52:09 -0700 From: "JOSH HOLDSTOCK" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by jafo.csbs.utah.edu id QAA25939 Subject: [Psych3120] Police Investigation I was wondering if anyone out there has any relation to police investigation and this is the reason... I know that police are trained on how to question suspects or victums as to not give verbal or nonverbal clues concerning any "right" or "wrong" answers they are looking for, however, does anyone know if it is a practice of any police department to take victums back to crime scenes (assuming they would be psychologically OK to do that) to help facilitate a more accurate recall of not only the events that occured but the face or faces of those involved? From what we have been learning about context and learning/recall I would think this would help. From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 17:54:44 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f70.hotmail.com [216.32.181.70]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27080 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:54:44 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 6410 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2000 00:57:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20000402005711.6409.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:57:11 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:57:11 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Answer to #7 5 Basic assumptions of Collins and Quillian's model This is in responce to Skiler576@aol.com's posted question. To my understanding the five basic assumptions of Quillian's and Qullian's model are: 1. Semantic memory is organized as a network or interrelated concepts 2. Each concept is represented by a node. 3. Concepts are linked together by pathways (Semantic relatedness?) 4. Activation of concepts spreads to interconnected nodes 5. Economy of Representation: activation of one concept partially activates semantically related concepts. I am not sure if this is correct by I think that it is. Hope that this helps. Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 18:52:55 2000 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f280.hotmail.com [216.32.180.134]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA28136 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 18:52:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 73002 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2000 01:55:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000402015522.73001.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.4.254.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:55:22 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.4.254.111] From: "Tim and Monique Gibson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:55:22 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide: having problems answering parts of 1 & 5 I am having difficulty answering question #1. Is the following correct of the definitions of the terms in the question? Linear tradeoff refers to the extent of shared or exchangeable resources between tasks. The POC curve refers to the cross plot performance of 2 time-shared tasks and the subject is asked to adopt different strategies of allocation on successive trials. Which are they referring to in the linear tradeoff explanation? I do not understand how to answer this question because linearity can refer to TWO things: 1) smoothness, meaning that when the subject stops attending to task one and attends to task two, there is little difficulty transferring his/her attention and the second task can be done with efficiency to improve the performance of it, and 2) discontinuous POC meaning that resources aren’t interchangeable and that they can’t be used to improve performance of the other. So which is it that the question is looking for? I hate this question. Wally or anyone that understands this, will you please explain and elaborate for me? I am also having difficulty with question #5. Provide a description of how have researchers interpreted the primacy and recency effects and the experimental evidence used to support this interpretation. For this question I have defined serial position curve, primacy and recency? But what does this question mean by “describe how researchers interpret them?” Also, what is the question looking for when it asks for “experimental evidence used to support this interpretation?” If I explain how the research is done, what is involved, with serial position effects would that answer this part of the question? Thanks in advance for any help or feedback! Monique J. Gibson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 19:49:15 2000 Received: from web3206.mail.yahoo.com (web3206.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29129 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:49:15 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000402025142.7024.qmail@web3206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.60] by web3206.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:51:42 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 18:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-answer 2 The four main techniques used to assess mental workload along with their advantages and disadvantages are: 1. PRIMARY TASK MEASURES: ADV: High validity. DISADV: Performance may be close to data limits, May be difficult to obtain good measures or primary task performance, Not diagnostic of which resources. 2. SECONDARY TASK MEASURES: DISADV: Relatively obtrusive. 3. PHYSIOLOGICAL MEASURES: ADV: Continuous measure, Not obtrusive. DISADV: Easier in design than application, Similar mental workload might produce radically different physiological responses in different people so results need to be interpreted with care. 4. SUBJECTIVE MEASURES: ADV: Easy to administer, High acceptability of users, Unobtrusive. DISADV: May not be diagnostic __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 20:09:25 2000 Received: from web3206.mail.yahoo.com (web3206.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29508 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:09:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000402031152.8739.qmail@web3206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.60] by web3206.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:11:52 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:11:52 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-answer 3 In Sternberg's memory search paradigm participants first stored a short list of letters, referred to as the memory set, in short-term memory. They then saw a single letter, the probe item, and responded yes or no depending on whether the probe item was among the letters in the memory set. So, for example if you stored the LRDC in short-term memory, and then saw the letter D, you'd respond yes. If the probe item were M, however, you'd respond by pressing the no button. The predictions for a SERIAL SELF-TERMINATING search is that on the average, the slope of the RT curve for yes responses should be shallower than the slope for no responses. In other words, on no trials, all positions have to be searched, but on yes trial you encounter matches at all position in the memory set, sometimes early, sometimes, late with equal frequencies at all positions. The predictions for a SERIAL SELF-EXHAUSTIVE is that the memory set is scanned one item at a time, and the entire set is scanned on every trial, whether or not a match is found. RESULTS: In the SERIAL SELF TERMINATING search the data showed the same slope for both kinds of trials, so this type of search was rejected. However, due to the similarity of the yes and no curves (Figure 4.9 -pg 116 in the text) strongly argues that both reflect the same mental process, SERIAL EXHAUSTIVE search through short term memory. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 20:29:57 2000 Received: from web3202.mail.yahoo.com (web3202.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.199]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29893 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:29:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000402033224.19213.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.60] by web3202.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:32:24 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:32:24 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2-answer 4 Decay VS. Interference in Short Term Memory Decay: In the BROWN-PETERSON task "on each of many individual trials, a simple three letter stimulus is presented to the participants (eg. CHJ), followed by a three digit number (eg. 506). They are instructed first to attend to the stimulus, then to begin counting backward by threes, starting with the presented number. Counting has to be done aloud, in rhythm with a metronome clicking twice per second. The participants are interrupted after an interval of 3-18 seconds, and are asked to report the three letters. The CONCLUSION was that the longer the information stayed in short term memory the more it was forgotten. (The essential ingredient was the distractor task which required a great deal of attention, and consequently prevented rehearsal.) Interference: In the Waugh-Norman "probe digit task" participants heard a list of 16 digits, read at a rate of either 1 digit or 4 digits per second. The final item in each list was a repeat of an earlier item and it served as the probe or cue to write down the digit that had followed the probe in the original list. Waugh-Norman results showed that forgetting from short term memory was influenced by the number of intervening items between the critical digit and the recall test, and not merely by the passage of time. In other words, forgetting was caused by interference, not simple decay. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 20:53:47 2000 Received: from web3203.mail.yahoo.com (web3203.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.200]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00385 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:53:47 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000402035611.28079.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.60] by web3203.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 19:56:11 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:56:11 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Study Guide 2- partial answer to 7 According to Collins and Quillian's model, semantic memory is a network of nodes with the relations among concepts coded as pathways between the nodes. The major mental process in the network was one of spreading activation and intersection search. The 5 basic assumptions are: 1) Semantic memory is organized as a network of interrelated concepts. 2) Each concept is represented as a node. 3) Concepts are linked together by pathways. 4) Activation of one concept spreads to interconnected nodes. 5) Economy representation. Evidence supporting the model comes from the Collins & Quillian's 1969 experiment which showed that concepts that are stored further apart-concepts with longer pathways- require more time than concepts stored at closer levels in the network. And furthermore, superordinate sentences were considerable faster than property sentences, suggesting that the isa pathway might in fact be stronger than property pathways. Why do typicality effects provide problems for the model and how have researchers modified the original ideas to accomodate typicality effects? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 20:57:41 2000 Received: from web3206.mail.yahoo.com (web3206.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.203]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00517 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:57:41 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <20000402040008.12254.qmail@web3206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.67.112.60] by web3206.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:00:08 PST Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:00:08 -0800 (PST) From: Danielle Mills To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Psych3120] Typicality Effects Does anyone know the last portion of question 7. -Why do typicality effects provide problems for the model and how have researchers modified the original ideas to accomodate typicality effects? Does the modification have anything to do with semantic relatedness? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 22:03:21 2000 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.199]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01683 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Lyuga0rAVu7XHZ3rA7Je7fgEydjLLtQVhCf6XPBEpL7FhyUwZYS1AQ=="> Received: (from spunkysparks@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id E4MH5A6L; Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:06:05 EST To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:25:35 -0700 Message-ID: <20000401.222536.-491113.0.spunkysparks@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Kristy L Sparks Subject: [Psych3120] Charley Sparks- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need help with both questions one and eight on the test #2 study guide. Please help me out!!!! From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 22:33:22 2000 Received: from slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.2]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02234 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:33:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 88940 invoked by alias); 2 Apr 2000 05:36:19 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu@fixme Received: (qmail 88919 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2000 05:36:17 -0000 Received: from kdialup231.slkc.uswest.net (HELO oemcomputer) (207.224.202.231) by slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Apr 2000 05:36:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf9c2a$68a58260$e7cae0cf@oemcomputer> From: "Donald Scott Cole" To: "psych3120" Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:34:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF9C2A.68300440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Police Investigations This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF9C2A.68300440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have some experience with Police Investigations, I have been a = Salt Lake City Police Officer for 8 years. Let me start by saying that I = was also disturbed by what I saw in the movie "What Jennifer Saw". No = Police Officer wants to arrest an innocent person, and no Police Officer = wants to close a case where the real perpetrator is still on the loose. = The detectives in this case were simply doing what they had been trained = to do in 1983. The science of interviewing victims and witnesses has = made significant progress since those days. It has been recognized that = it is very easy to plant suggestions in a victims head while trying to = get information from them. Especially when the victim has been severely = traumatized. Now Officers and Detectives are trained to ask simple = non-leading questions, and to allow the victim to lead the conversation. = As to the question of taking victims back to the crime scene to trigger = memories. This is a very common practice in the Salt Lake City Police = Department. But, we have found that the effectiveness of this technique = in triggering details declines over a short period of time. Usually if = it can't be done within 72 hours of the occurrence it won't be done. = Interestingly one of the major ways that we use this technique is in the = investigation of Officer Involved Shootings (when a Police Officer = shoots a suspect). It is Department policy that at least 24 hours after = the shooting but before 72 hours have passed the officer is taken back = to the scene of the shooting. The officer then proceeds to walk through = the entire incident from start to finish with the investigators from the = D.A.'s office. The walk-through is videotaped for reference. During this = walk-through Officers very often remember details that they had = initially forgotten. It is also common for officers to discover that = events did not occur in the order they recalled them occurring in. We = also find that two Officers will recall the same event in different = ways. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF9C2A.68300440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I=20 have some experience with Police Investigations, I have been a Salt Lake = City=20 Police Officer for 8 years. Let me start by saying that I was also = disturbed by=20 what I saw in the movie "What Jennifer Saw". No Police Officer = wants=20 to arrest an innocent person, and no Police Officer wants to close a = case where=20 the real perpetrator is still on the loose. The detectives in this case = were=20 simply doing what they had been trained to do in 1983. The science of=20 interviewing victims and witnesses has made significant progress since = those=20 days. It has been recognized that it is very easy to plant suggestions = in a=20 victims head while trying to get information from them. Especially when = the=20 victim has been severely traumatized. Now Officers and Detectives are = trained to=20 ask simple non-leading questions, and to allow the victim to lead the=20 conversation. As to the question of taking victims back to  the = crime scene=20 to trigger memories. This is a very common practice in the Salt Lake = City Police=20 Department. But, we have found that the effectiveness of this technique = in=20 triggering details declines over a short period of time. Usually if it = can't be=20 done within 72 hours of the occurrence it won't be done. Interestingly = one of=20 the major ways that we use this technique is in the investigation of = Officer=20 Involved Shootings (when a Police Officer shoots a suspect). It is = Department=20 policy that at least 24 hours after the shooting but before 72 hours = have passed=20 the officer is taken back to the scene of the shooting. The officer then = proceeds to walk through the entire incident from start to finish with = the=20 investigators from the D.A.'s office. The walk-through is videotaped for = reference. During this walk-through Officers very often remember details = that=20 they had initially forgotten. It is also common for officers to discover = that=20 events did not occur in the order they recalled them occurring in. We = also find=20 that two Officers will recall the same event in different=20 ways.    
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF9C2A.68300440-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Apr 1 22:36:34 2000 Received: from smtp.efortress.com (smtp.efortress.com [205.181.175.207]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02361 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:36:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from HPAuthorizedCustomer (72-171.dialup.itsnet.com [192.41.72.171]) by smtp.efortress.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA04465 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 00:39:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000c01bf9c65$de28a9a0$ab4829c0@HPAuthorizedCustomer> From: "Darren Schmidt" To: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:39:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF9C2B.309410C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: [Psych3120] eyewitness testimony This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF9C2B.309410C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a question regarding the film that we watched this last Thursday. = It was a shame such a big part of the innocent man's life was gone as a = result of being wrongly convicted. Dr. Strayer mentioned that past = cases aren't reopened. Is DNA testing part of normal routine in = current rape cases? If not why wouldn't it be part of normal routine? = If anyone can answer this I would be much abliged. Darren = Schmidt ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF9C2B.309410C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had a question regarding the film = that we watched=20 this last Thursday.  It was a shame such a big part of the innocent = man's=20 life was gone as a result of being wrongly convicted.  Dr. Strayer=20 mentioned that past cases aren't reopened.  Is DNA testing part = of =20 normal routine in  current rape cases?   If not why = wouldn't it=20 be part of  normal routine?  If anyone can answer this I = would be=20 much abliged.        Darren=20 Schmidt
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF9C2B.309410C0-- From psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Apr 2 04:11:25 2000 Received: from nim.oz.cc.utah.edu (root@nim.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.6]) by jafo.csbs.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07109 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 04:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mike (pub-dial83.aclis.utah.edu [128.110.251.85]) by nim.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA17623 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 04:14:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004021014.EAA17623@nim.oz.cc.utah.edu> From: "Russell Nagle" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 04:24:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Subject: [Psych3120] Reply to Darren Schmidt: "eyewitness testimony" Taking a break from studying I decided to look into this issue a little bit further. I found a lot of articles talking about different bills that had been proposed to guarantee inmates the right to have DNA testing. According to the article in the Salt Lake Tribune (2/12/00) many inmates were convicted before DNA testing and there are laws that do not allow them to bring up new evidence. Barry Scheck, who was in the video shown in class, said that getting a DNA test in prison "is like a war". According to the Sl Trib 64 inmates have had sentances over turned because of DNA, but I bet that would sky-rocket if DNA testing were allowed. I think taking DNA is becoming more and more common in current crimes. In fact I remembered seeing in an article that a rapist had been identified by the victim in a line up but the police were waiting for the DNA evidence. From what it sounds like, part of the problem lies in the fact that many people don't trust DNA evidence. This is what complicates cu