From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 00:16:04 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Doug Christopherson) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:16:04 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post- Doug Christopherson Message-ID: What is it about thinking technically during a task (golf swing) that causes us to execute the taks with less precision. The golf swing is a perfect example of this. When I golf I like to warm-up before I play by hitting a few balls. After I'm warm, however, I stop immediately because I don't want to waste the mental energy on the practice range that I could be using on the course. I suppose this is an example of how an implicit memory task can become more complicated when we try to think about it explicitly. I seem to play my best golf when I am relaxed and don't care about my score. The moment (literally) I start thinking about where my swing plane is, or if my grip is too strong, or whatever else, my swing plane becomes off, my grip becomes too strong, etc. Instances like these remind me of "What the Bleep Do We Know", and just how much we become what we think. The more I question the way I golf, the less able I am to perform. Maybe that's why Happy Gilmore's swing was so effective (ha). I know, I know, Happy was great because of Chubs. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 00:15:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Supernatural "psychology"- David Jones Message-ID: I along with many of the others in class would definiatly say that class this week was quite entertaining. Conspiracy theoreys/ists always crack me up. It totally blew me away when I moved away from wyoming and met several people that truly didn't believe that we had landed on the moon. "It was all the government" The thought had never occured to me. I would venture tho guess that people often convince themselves that they have seen things in the sky or one of the other "sightings" that they have just convinced themselves that they saw it and as we all now know that our vision can be decieving that is where alot of reports come from. DAvid Jones From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 04:17:14 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Liljenquist) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 21:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology Message-ID: I seriously had so much fun in class on Thursday. It was very interesting to learn more about parapsychology. I was talking to a friend after class about what we had discussed, and he goes "let me guess...you talked about it very sarcastically." That's exactly right. It is kind of funny to think about how many people actually believe in telepathy, etc., and to be completely honest I have been a victim of being swayed by several aspects of parapsychology. Not only was it very entertaining and comical to go into great detail about aliens and subliminal messages, but I also learned a great deal. It was interesting to relate several things to what we have already learned in this class. For example, the face on Mars. Our brains are especially sensitive to human faces, so many people saw this photo and automatically saw a human face. Too much fun. Well anyway, let me know if anyone is putting together a study group or something for the final. Thanks! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 00:19:48 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ashley Sproul) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post (Ashley Sproul) Message-ID: Thursday's lecture on parapsychology was very interesting. I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to fortune telling, people claiming to have been abducted by aliens, and subliminal messages. Like Dr. Strayer said in the lecture, I think that I would need pretty solid evidence in order to believe something like that. I have a subscription to Elle magazine, and I usually read the horoscope/numerolgy page just to see what they say will happen to me that month. It is interesting, because a lot of the time they are pretty close. However, their statements are very general, so I think that they could be somewhat accurate for anyone. I think that most predictions in any kind of fortune telling work that way. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 00:24:01 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jessica Berry) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] PDP models: have mercy on my soul In-Reply-To: <200511301901.MAA18738@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Some info about PDP models. It may help to first define what a PDP model is. It is a model using a distributed representation with nodes and links. The model learns as weights are modified. Parallel distributed processing goes by three names: Neural networks (computerized model which has similar neuron structures as biological networks); connectionist modeling (this is like computer science where those constructing the models are interested in the computer behaving intelligently, with not much interest in biology); and parallel distributed processing (a psychological model that emphasizes the qualities of parallel and distributed processing). The PDP models are assuming the construction of semantic network models, indicating that these models are correct, where concepts are activated, which then activate surrounding connecting nodes through links. (is this right?) Prototypes are the natural byproduct of laying down memories into some neural network space where the things that vary among the memories cancel out. For example, if you see many dogs, like chihuahuas, min pins, golden retrievers etc., and lay down the information into the same neural network space and the specific features are canceled out. The only qualities that are then left are generic ones, like eyes, nose, ears, tail and approx. size. This becomes a prototype. Prototype formation stores instances of action into the same neural network space. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 08:24:49 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (nicole funk) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:24:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post Message-ID:
I was not able to attend lecture last thursday and I just went over the lecture notes for dec. 1.  I have always been a skeptic when it comes to telepathy, alien encounters, and the like.  I found all of the information on this very interesting, but the thing that I thought was so fascinating about all of the topics was the advertising section.  Subliminal advertising, I have not been as skeptical about.  It is comforting to me to know that there are no significant findings that it is effective.  Partly due to the fact that subliminal content is typically rather questionable.  The main reason that it is a relief, however, is because I hate to think that something could influence my behavior that I am entirely unaware of consciously.  It is interesting that so much money has been put into something that has no substantial evidence of success. 
Happy last week of class everyone!
Nicole Funk
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 18:28:42 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kevin davis) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 11:28:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: postmaster@mail.hotmail.com >To: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com >Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) >Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 23:00:57 -0800 > >This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > >Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable >to connect successfully to the destination mail server. > > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > > ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: message/delivery-status; name="attach3"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attach3"; UmVwb3J0aW5nLU1UQTogZG5zO2hvdG1haWwuY29tDQpSZWNlaXZlZC1Gcm9t LU1UQTogZG5zO21haWwuaG90bWFpbC5jb20NCkFycml2YWwtRGF0ZTogVGh1 LCAxIERlYyAyMDA1IDIxOjEwOjU3IC0wODAwDQoNCkZpbmFsLVJlY2lwaWVu dDogcmZjODIyO3BzeWNoMzEyMEBsaXN0cy5jc2JzLnV0YWguZWR1DQpBY3Rp b246IGZhaWxlZA0KU3RhdHVzOiA0LjQuNw0K ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:10:57 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.70.226.35] X-Originating-Email: [kevindeedavis@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com From: "kevin davis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Bcc: Subject: Do ya'll believe? Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:10:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[C754D9C0:01C5F6FE] Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:10:57 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.70.226.35] X-Originating-Email: [kevindeedavis@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com From: "kevin davis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Bcc: Subject: Do ya'll believe? Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:10:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[C754D9C0:01C5F6FE] Today's class was a hoot! I had alot of fun listening to all those songs played backwards. I thought the backwards version of "Stairway to Heaven" was the most intriguing, however I don't believe for a second that anyone of those bands were really trying to send subliminal messages (I don't think they were smart enough). Today at work I started a conversation with my coworkers about the existence of aliens. They were pretty divided on whether or not they believed. I thought it might be kinda fun to hear what everyone on the bulletin thought. I personally am pretty confident that with all the billions and billions of planets and solar systems in space there has to be some sort of life similiar to our's out there. However, I'm not convinced that aliens have actually visited us from distant galaxys. There's just no real proof that I am aware of. What do you guys think? -Kevin Dee ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 18:35:03 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spencer Banks) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:35:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post Message-ID: I have to say that I loved yesterday's lecture. All of those backwards messages were really funny. But what Dr. Strayer said about skepticism was really good. For me, when I hear something outrageous that I don't believe, that was that. I didn't believe it and never really questioned it. Now after learning about the questions we should ask ourselves and learning the criteria for good evidence, I have something substantiative regarding why I don't believe something. I also like what Hale said-Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Spencer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 05:28:06 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:28:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Review for Final Message-ID: <20051203222806.c6xy32do2s08coc0@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> Hi everyone, Several people have asked when the review for the final will be held. As mentioned in class, Joel will hold the review during the last regularly scheduled class (Thursday 12/8). Best way to use the time is to look over the study guide questions and ask about what you unsure. Also, if you are working on extra credit (either by participating in experiments or by writing a paper), make sure that you have completed this before the day of the final. --Dave Strayer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 20:47:13 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Parke) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 13:47:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] problem solving Message-ID: All this talk about the GRE is starting to stress me out, as if worrying about finals isnt bad enough. I guess that is school for you, just a series of hoops to jump through...its not nessasarily the smartest ones that make it through rather the persistent ones. But if it comes down to the GRE making or breaking me as far as grad school goes, it just might break me. I know that problem solving is not my thing. As we talked about in class, I am the type of person that has a had time figuring anything out without someone explaining it to me a hundred times, or having seen it done. Even with music...I am retarded when it comes to sight reading, but after hearing it once it all makes sense and I can usually repeat it easily after that. I think my brain must be wired abit differently! Keith Parke _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 08:55:39 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Rachel B) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:55:39 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: I just wanted to make a few comments about class last Thursday. I was very intrigued that so many people actually believe astrology. I read my horoscope periodically and have found sometimes it is correct and sometimes it isn't . I have also found that many of the horoscopes are so general, they could apply to anyone's life. Going along with the unusual things people believe in, I find superstitions very interesting. Sometimes I will find myself thinking that I have to do things in a certain way because that is the way I have done them previously and that way was effective, so I must repeat in the same manner to get the same results. -Rachel Braun Johnson From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 23:15:45 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Burrup) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:15:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] POST #10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID:
HI-
  I wanted to post today about how entertaining I found last thursday to be.  I have always wondered about Satan's musical influence...now I know why I have been "naughty" things.  It's because Led Zeppelin has brainwashed me into doing horrible things like only using one napkin when eating ribs, or counting money backwards.  Actually, I respect anyone's beliefs...yet Dave was right in telling us that evidence is very important to be able to believe something so extraordinary.  HAve a good day!
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 05:26:47 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Abby Wright) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:26:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Posting #13 Message-ID: I thought that Thursday’s lecture was one of the best lectures of the semester! I especially enjoyed hearing the “hidden messages” in backwards music. This is a great example of how our mind can “create” what we hear because after listening to the backwards music I couldn’t make heads or tails of what was being said. Only after having read what was allegedly said did I “hear” the lyrics (except for the Pink Floyd song where the backwards message was intentionally put in there). I was also shocked at how many sexual references were slipped into Disney films on purpose. After having watched those movies a thousand times I would never have guessed that someone would intentionally put that kind of stuff in those movies! It makes me wonder what other stuff has intentionally be subliminally inserted into other movies, even if we don’t subconsciously process it. That reminds me of a side story. When the BTK killer was caught a few months ago, I remember watching a Dateline special in which the police department actually slipped a subliminal message into the newscast where BTK had addressed his letters. In it the police urged him to surrender. Not surprisingly it didn’t work! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 21:15:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Review Message-ID: <20051204141553.ehr473zz4ksww8s4@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> Hi everyone, Several people have asked when the review for the final will be held. As mentioned in class, Joel will hold the review during the last regularly scheduled class (Thursday 12/8). Best way to use the time is to look over the study guide questions and ask about what you unsure. Also, if you are working on extra credit (either by participating in experiments or by writing a paper), make sure that you have completed this before the day of the final. --Dave Strayer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 23:52:02 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Callister) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <20051203235202.71366.qmail@web32908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-349451344-1133653922=:70483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought it was interesting to talk about parapsychology and its components last class. I personally am not a believer, or at the least, I am very skeptical, however I do think that there are weird things that happen. I don't believe aliens (as most people consider them) have visited earth, but I most certainly have seen very odd flying objects down in South America. It's interesting to hear people's explanations though when someone sees something unexlainable. I've even heard that the government confirms outrageous claims like seeing U.F.O.'s or sets up certain evidence in order to send people on a witch hunt, while protecting what is trully going on. There is one thing that I do believe in though, and that is precognition, in certain forms. I don't think that it's a gift that somebody constantly has, but at times people have dreams, or just know things will happen before they do, myself included. When this happens, I am interested to know how scientists explain it. Especially those scientists who don't believe in any type of supreme being from which any sort of revelation may come from. Parapsychology really seems to hook in a lot of people, because they trully believe in it. I would suggest that this may simply show the power of the mind. I don't mean to offend anyone who may believe in this stuff. I myself have some pretty out their beliefs sometimes too. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals --0-349451344-1133653922=:70483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I thought it was interesting to talk about parapsychology and its components last class.  I personally am not a believer, or at the least, I am very skeptical, however I do think that there are weird things that happen.  I don't believe aliens (as most people consider them) have visited earth, but I most certainly have seen very odd flying objects down in South America.  It's interesting to hear people's explanations though when someone sees something unexlainable.  I've even heard that the government confirms outrageous claims like seeing U.F.O.'s or sets up certain evidence in order to send people on a witch hunt, while protecting what is trully going on.  There is one thing that I do believe in though, and that is precognition, in certain forms.  I don't think that it's a gift that somebody constantly has, but at times people have dreams, or just know things will happen before they do, myself included.  When this happens, I am interested to know how scientists explain it.  Especially those scientists who don't believe in any type of supreme being from which any sort of revelation may come from.  Parapsychology really seems to hook in a lot of people, because they trully believe in it.  I would suggest that this may simply show the power of the mind.  I don't mean to offend anyone who may believe in this stuff.  I myself have some pretty out their beliefs sometimes too.


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I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school.  It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken.  The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people?   Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE.  I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject.  I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school.  I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam.  My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap.  I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.”  Ahhh capitalism!


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I found thursday's class to be very entertaining.  It's amazing to me to think that some people actually believe these parapsychology things to be real and valid.  It would be interesting to read the book, I think it was called "Why people believe weird things" or something like that.  For me, even though I have been introduced to some of it, I never really believed in it.  I guess I've always been a skeptic.  I read some articals from the online reading. One was about a skeptic that called a radio show to talk to a psychic.  He wanted to call her on some predictions she made in a previous year that never came true.  When he asked about the predictions, the psychic totally avoided the question and changed the subject.  It that isn't obvious to her not being able to predict the future I don't know what is.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 22:42:50 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:42:50 EST Subject: [Psych3120] post #14 Message-ID: <20d.eea415d.30c4caea@aol.com> -------------------------------1133736170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In class on Thursday it was neat talking about all the different things humans believe. I personally have never been the type of person to really fall for that stuff. I believe that there might be cover ups and things, but it might not be for what people think it is. The demonstration that intrigued me the most was the backwards music. That was one I always believed. I thought certain songs had hidden meanings. It's interesting to see that those backwards lyrics have no effect. I thought maybe even listening to them the right way might somehow still give you the backwards message. To me though it does seem odd that most the backwards messages have to do with Satan and drugs or other negative concepts. But, I know a lot of it is based off of perception and what one expects to hear or see. Overall, I felt like this was a fun class to attend and it's cool to spend time talking about these types of things. Also, I have a question. I missed class on Tuesday. Is there anyone who could maybe let me know the key points of the lecture that I might need to know that isn't on the slides. That would be awesome. Have a great weekend!! -------------------------------1133736170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In class on Thursday it was neat talking about all the differ= ent=20 things humans believe.  I personally have never been the type of person= to=20 really fall for that stuff.  I believe that there might be cover ups an= d=20 things, but it might not be for what people think it is.  The demonstra= tion=20 that intrigued me the most was the backwards music.  That was one I alw= ays=20 believed.  I thought certain songs had hidden meanings.  It's=20 interesting to see that those backwards lyrics have no effect.  I thought maybe even listening t= o them=20 the right way might somehow still give you the backwards message.  To m= e=20 though it does seem odd that most the backwards messages have to do with Sat= an=20 and drugs or other negative concepts.  But, I know a lot of it is based= off=20 of perception and what one expects to hear or see.  Overall, I felt lik= e=20 this was a fun class to attend and it's cool to spend time talking about the= se=20 types of things.  Also, I have a question.  I missed class on=20 Tuesday.  Is there anyone who could maybe let me know the key points of= the=20 lecture that I might need to know that isn't on the slides.  That would= be=20 awesome.  Have a great weekend!!
-------------------------------1133736170-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 21:58:57 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:58:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] GRE Message-ID: <20051203215857.82270.qmail@web52415.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school. It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken. The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people? Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE. I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject. I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school. I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam. My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap. I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.” Ahhh capitalism! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school.  It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken.  The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people?   Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE.  I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject.  I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school.  I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam.  My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap.  I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.”  Ahhh capitalism!


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See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 23:27:41 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jonathan Gallimore) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:27:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] RE: parapsychology Message-ID: <20051204232741.40173.qmail@web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For me, I love the occult and the paranormal. But as I get older I realize that they are merely for fun and not a lot of weight should be put on the predictions are made by astrologers, fortune tellers, and psychics. One time I compared three different horoscopes over a given month to see which was more accurate and guess what... They all were only accurate 33% of the time which is rather low. The statements made by astrology are general. For the most part psychics and fortune tellers read people not cards or the stars telling people what they want to hear. But like I said horoscopes are fun for me, but should I plan my life around them? No way. I remember being told, in my personality theories class, about an experiment with horoscopes. The professor told everyone that he would do the class's atrology charts and tell them about who they are. So he took all of their information and next week brought them all in a "personality" profile. Each student read their profile and then rated it on how accurately it described them. I do not remember the exact scores but the majority of the class said that the horoscope was accurate. Guess what though. The professor had given everyone the same personality profile. I think that goes to show that the statements are broad and people will find a way to make what is said apply and fit to them. People will believe anything especially within a time of crisis or indecision which is the time that people will most likely seek out a fortune teller. But the best tool that I have seen used for such times of trouble are critical thinking, logic, and experience. The future will always be a mystery, and there is no way to predict it. But with common sense, a keen eye, and critical thoughts you can get a good sense of what is likely to happen. Although anything that can happen will happen and so as humans we have to live with the uncertainity of the future. ---jonathan gallimore __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 00:26:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:26:44 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] post (Eric Ashton) Message-ID: <1133742404.4393894467f7d@webmail.utah.edu> In class we had the lecture about para psychology. Of coarse, it was interesting and entertaining. Something that was metioned was the idea that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and "the burden of proof is on the positive." These ideas are clearly useful and neccessary particularily in the scientific realm so that bogus claims are not accepted as fact. However, a lack of extraordinary evidence does not rule out the possibility that the extraordinary claim occured. For example if i were to stand 90 feet from a basketball hoop, with my back turned to the hoop and chuck the basketball uder my legs and make the shot this would be and extraordinary claim. Perhaps no one else was there and i was the only witness that saw my highly unlikely shot. I then tell my friends and my family but they want extraordinary evidence. I don't have any. I try the shot again, this time with witnesses, and i never come within 15 feet. No evidence, but i made that shot. Now lets say i see a ghost (not that i have, because i have not nor do i believe the people that say they have but let's just say i see a ghost). No one else was there when the ghost came. I tell my friends and family and no one believes me. They want evidence, I have none. No extra-ordinary evidence, but i saw that ghost(hypothetically). From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 00:37:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ashley williams) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:

Our last class was really entertaining. I looked up the notes on the class web page before I came to class and knew it would be fun. I've always been kinda skeptical about all that stuff so it's really interesting to see what other people are posting about it. In class, I really enjoyed the subliminal messages in the backwards songs. It made me wonder how many artists put these types of messages in their songs purposefully. Also the talk on aliens and stuff made me think about how many people really believe in this stuff. I looked up UFO sightings online just out of curiosity and was amazed at how many people believe they have seen one. Kinda crazy... 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 01:42:30 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (K B) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:42:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] modes-parapsychology Message-ID: thursdays lecture was VERY entertaining! i dont believe in parapsychology but it's still an interesting subject. I was watching a special on tv last week on people who have spirits or something in their homes. It sounds so absurd. I swear these people are delusional. I learned a very important concept from the lecture. You see what you want to see. You could sit for hours staring at the clouds and come up with all sorts of figures in the shapes of the clouds. Its baffling that some people seem to do this for a living. The music part in the beginning was especially intriguing. i always heard people talk about these "hidden" messages if you played certain songs backwards, but i never witnessed anything like it my self. It was humorous actually. People are strangely curious. If anyone is interested, i would like to do a study group outside of class as well to be more prepared for the exam. We could get together at the library or something. kara From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 02:08:22 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kendrick) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:08:22 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] the GRE Message-ID: <33375ed40512041808l2f7d3243k1f730ea51aa0d4fd@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline they simply cannot accept all GRE scores. there has to be a cut off somewhere. It simply isn't fair that someone who coasts through school getting B's and C's and the occasional D and be allowed to continue on in grad school where there are more qualified persons with higher GPAs. The thing is, there must be something that can distinguish a good student from = a bad one, and currently, until they get a better system, GPA and the GRE is it. There are other factors that decide admission to grad school. My professor in Personality Theory, Dr. Rhodewalt shared quite a bit about this just las= t week. He encouraged students to discover what area of focus they wanted t= o pursue as professionals and seek a connection with a professor who is in that field of expertise and accepting grad students. He said this is probably the single most important ingredient in getting into grad school. So, if the cut off for GRE is 48. And its not a very good predictor of success in grad school --- who cares. What you can probably bet on is that below 48 would more than likely mean disaster. This is all easy for me to say since I have neither been accepted to grad school, nor have I taken the GRE, but I guess what I mean is, there isn't really a problem with having a cut off score. There just isn't time or money to review all students who apply. If all who took the GRE were considered for grad school, what would be the determining factor for grad school? An interview? An essay? The cost of grad school is already outrageous, but this line of reasoning would most certainly send tuition costs to ridiculous rates. At the pay most psychologists make today, it wouldn't be reasonable to go to all that schooling only to be in debt from grad school tuition for more than half your career. That's where things like this class can come in handy. When I first returne= d to school, I loved it so much I was studying constantly, merely because it was fun to learn. Then life caught up to me, and I soon discovered that I could squeak by with good grades by cramming and putting in the bear minimum. Now, after learning how memory works "best", recall, perception, etc... I realize I'm doing myself a disservice by not putting my all into every class. I got an A- in Calculus just last year, but if you ask me to derive or integrate something, I can't help you much. oh well. I'm sure I'm not winning any friends here... besides its unlikely anyone has even read this far. Who believes in ghosts? UFOs? Witchcraft? Kendrick ------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
they simply cannot accept all GRE scores. there has to be a cut off so= mewhere.  It simply isn't fair that someone who coasts through school = getting B's and C's and the occasional D and be allowed to continue on in g= rad school where there are more qualified persons with higher GPAs.  T= he thing is, there must be something that can distinguish a good student fr= om a bad one, and currently, until they get a better system, GPA and the GR= E is it. =20
 
There are other factors that decide admission to grad school.  My= professor in Personality Theory, Dr. Rhodewalt shared quite a bit about th= is just last week.  He encouraged students to discover what area of&nb= sp; focus they wanted to pursue as professionals and seek a connection= with a professor who is in that  field of expertise and accepting gra= d students.  He said this is probably the single most important ingred= ient in getting into grad school. =20
 
So, if the cut off for GRE is 48.  And its not a very good predic= tor of success in grad school --- who cares.  What you can probably be= t on is that below 48 would more than likely mean disaster.  This is a= ll easy for me to say since I have neither been accepted to grad school, no= r have I taken the GRE, but I guess what I mean is, there isn't really a pr= oblem with having a cut off score.  There just isn't time or money to = review all students who apply.  If all who took the GRE were considere= d for grad school, what would be the determining factor for grad school?&nb= sp; An interview?  An essay?  The cost of grad school is already = outrageous, but this line of reasoning would most certainly send tuition co= sts to ridiculous rates.  At the pay most psychologists make today, it= wouldn't be reasonable to go to all that schooling only to be in debt from= grad school tuition for more than half your career.
 
That's where things like this class can come in handy. When I first re= turned to school, I loved it so much I was studying constantly, merely beca= use it was fun to learn.  Then life caught up to me, and  I soon = discovered that I could squeak by with good grades by cramming and  pu= tting in the bear minimum.  Now, after learning how memory works "= ;best", recall, perception, etc... I realize I'm doing myself a d= isservice by not putting my all into every class.  I got an A- in Calc= ulus just last year, but if you ask me to derive or integrate somethin= g, I can't help you much. =20
 
oh well.  I'm sure I'm not winning any friends here... besides it= s unlikely anyone has even read this far. 
 
Who believes in ghosts?  UFOs?  Witchcraft?
 
Kendrick
------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 02:09:13 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly McGrath) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:09:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] end of class Message-ID: <002801c5f940$e41c72e0$0300a8c0@starwest> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to say that I have really enjoyed this semester in this = class. I hope that everyone else has enjoyed it as well. I have = learned a lot. I hope that everyone does well on the final and that you = all have a wonderful holiday and break from school. Kim McGrath ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just wanted to say that I have really = enjoyed=20 this semester in this class.  I hope that everyone else has enjoyed = it as=20 well.  I have learned a lot.  I hope that everyone does well = on the=20 final and that you all have a wonderful holiday and break from=20 school.
 
Kim McGrath
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 2 23:17:45 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly McGrath) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:17:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <002b01c5f796$9b1d4930$0300a8c0@starwest> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5F75B.EDE57650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought that the lecture on Parapsychology was very interesting. It = is amazing to me that people actually believe some of those things. I = was shocked to see the hidden pictures in the Disney movies. As a = parent it worries me to think of what my children might be watching and = learning. I was also surprised to see the extent to which people have = gone with "alien" paraphernalia. I never new that people truly believed = that strongly in these things. Kim McGrath ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5F75B.EDE57650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought that the lecture on = Parapsychology was=20 very interesting.  It is amazing to me that people actually believe = some of=20 those things.  I was shocked to see the hidden pictures in the = Disney=20 movies.  As a parent it worries me to think of what my children = might be=20 watching and learning.  I was also surprised to see the extent to = which=20 people have gone with "alien" paraphernalia.  I never new that = people truly=20 believed that strongly in these things.
 
Kim McGrath
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The Thursday's lecture on parapsychology was very interesting. I personally love to believe and want to know about weird stuff because it's always entertaining. I do believe that telepathy exists in some extent and many others too. and I think it wouldn't be too bad to believe whatever precog or psychic says about the future if prediction comes true.
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 16:18:21 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:18:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] schemata... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are schemata the same as heuristics? If not, how are they different? ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are schemata the same as heuristics?  If not, how are they=20 different?
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 16:55:07 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:55:07 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ACT Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correct me if I'm wrong but, Atkinson and Shiffrin's standard theory of = information processing is simply the model of the mind that has sensory = stores feeding into working memory which in turn feeds into long term = memory (which includes semantic and episodic memory). Thus, Anderson's = ACT model differs only in that he says that there is another, = additional, separate production memory that is used primarily in skill = acquisition. Is this right? I think that it is... ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
correct me if I'm wrong but, Atkinson and Shiffrin's standard = theory of=20 information processing is simply the model of the mind that has sensory = stores=20 feeding into working memory which in turn feeds into long term memory = (which=20 includes semantic and episodic memory).  Thus, Anderson's ACT model = differs=20 only in that he says that there is another, additional, separate = production=20 memory that is used primarily in skill acquisition.  Is this = right?  I=20 think that it is...
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 17:44:09 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #860 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <200512042007.NAA01350@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051205174409.11546.qmail@web52809.mail.yahoo.com> Thursdays discussion was very interesting. Parapsychology and topics such as psychics and aliens are very popular. I think the reason they are so popular is because people want to believe they are true. I dont know where I stand on most of these issues, but I would fall under the 50% of people who have had a paranormal experience. People believe in astrology for the same reasons they believe in religion, they want to believe in fate and the idea that they have no control over certain things that may happen in their life. I cant say that either are wrong. Being somewhat religious myself I wouldnt put down anyone for having a faith that they follow, nor would I put them down if that faith was in astrology or aliens. As for the others areas of discussion, I dont think that backwards lyrics can influence people. A lot of times I cant understand what singers are saying when it is played forward. And I would have to agree that blatant sex sells faster than subliminal messages in advertising. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 20:13:20 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:13:20 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <8C7C7EF78C6487A-1E50-17E69@mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C7EF78399DF7_1E50_10218_mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought the lecture on parapsychology was interesting. I can not believe that people acutally believe in that stuff. I remember hearing about how some people thought that if they played records backwards that there was demonic messages hidden on the records. I think that it's crazy to believe in such things. I really don't have any respect for people how study parapsychology. I remember as a kid looking up at the clouds and if you stare long enough you could make out shapes from the clouds. That was always fun to do when I was bored and I had nothing else to do as a child. Katie Homan ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7C7EF78399DF7_1E50_10218_mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I thought the lecture on parapsychology was interesting. I can not believe that people acutally believe in that stuff. I remember hearing about how some people thought that if they played records backwards that there was demonic messages hidden on the records. I think that it's crazy to believe in such things. I really don't have any respect for people how study parapsychology. I remember as a kid looking up at the clouds and if you stare long enough you could make out shapes from the clouds. That was always fun to do when I was bored and I had nothing else to do as a child. Katie Homan

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I'm amazed at how many people fine hidden messages in cookies, pictures, and ads.  I have never had that much time to sit at stare at one, I guess.  Like Dr. Strayer said though, they simply do not work.  In my day it was hidden messages on records (yes, I'm that old).  I can't tell you how many needles we ruined trying to figure out what the Beatles were secrectly trying to tell us on the Sgt. Pepper album.  Maybe the only creatures that can hear them are those Martians who seem to want everyones ovaries and semen.  Nah, that would just be silly, wouldn't it!

Good luck to everyone on the final!

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 23:08:46 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (cortney tanner) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID:

 

I'm amazed at how many people fine hidden messages in cookies, pictures, and ads.  I have never had that much time to sit at stare at one, I guess.  Like Dr. Strayer said though, they simply do not work.  In my day it was hidden messages on records (yes, I'm that old).  I can't tell you how many needles we ruined trying to figure out what the Beatles were secrectly trying to tell us on the Sgt. Pepper album.  Maybe the only creatures that can hear them are those Martians who seem to want everyones ovaries and semen.  Nah, that would just be silly, wouldn't it!

Good luck to everyone on the final!

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 00:57:43 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:57:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] last class Message-ID: <20051206005743.34166.qmail@web52413.mail.yahoo.com> --0-419464804-1133830663=:32502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The last class lecture was the most engaging and most entertaining one so far. It was really interesting to hear about parapsychology in the class room setting. It made for a cool change in our regular class routine. Here is an interesting thought: many people believe in certain aspects of parapsychology which may seem odd since there may be no hard evidence (or extraordinary evidence) of some of these beliefs but how does that differ much from people's belief in a higher being or a heaven or hell. These beliefs are held by the majority of Earth's population and yet they are "extraordinary claims" without "extraordinary evidence." I completely understand why scientist and others must think skeptically about things in order not to regard virtually anything as truth but we must admit that there are probably many things that we do not know about life, our world and beyond. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-419464804-1133830663=:32502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The last class lecture was the most engaging and most entertaining one so far.  It was really interesting to hear about parapsychology in the class room setting.  It made for a cool change in our regular class routine.  Here is an interesting thought: many people believe in certain aspects of parapsychology which may seem odd since there may be no hard evidence (or extraordinary evidence) of some of these beliefs but how does that differ much from people's belief in a higher being or a heaven or hell.  These beliefs are held by the majority of Earth's population and yet they are "extraordinary claims" without "extraordinary evidence."  I completely understand why scientist and others must think skeptically about things in order not to regard virtually anything as truth but we must admit that there are probably many things that we do not know about life, our world and beyond.   
 
 
 
 
 
       


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The lecture on parapsychology was really interesting.  I am excited for the movie tomorrow!!  I have noticed a lot of the Disney "mistakes" throughout the years.  One that wasn't discussed in class was one from Aladdin, when the genie is changed into a bee and he whispers "take off your clothes" during one of the scenes.  It's amazing that these things just went unnoticed.  The alien stuff is really weird too.  I think it would be so interesting to go to that museum and see all of the things that have been "recovered" from our little alien friends.

~Danielle

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 06:17:06 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kevin davis) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:17:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology Message-ID: I think parapsychology is fun to discuss. Conspiracy theories are my favorite to read about. Yesterday my father handed me an article about a professor from BYU Idaho who quit his job teaching in order to prove his theory that the recent nature disasters in the US are the result of a weapon that the Yakuza (Japanese mafia) developed in order get revenge for the US for dropping the bombs on Nagasaki and hiroshima. I thought it was pretty far fetched but hey whatever gets your motor running. -Kevin From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 07:31:04 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eve Patterson) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:31:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Paul is dead... In-Reply-To: <200512051901.MAA16367@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051206073104.70288.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where fun subject matter is given, fun postings should be abundant. That is why after our para-normal discussion on Thursday I gave myself permission (okay fine, an excuse) to jump into the crazy universe of the paranormal and subliminal. Here are a few of my favorite sites: http://www.aliensthetruth.com is probably my favorite, they are everything you could want, alien pictures, government conspiracy and the Truth Fox Moulder always sought out! You will at least be entertained! Another site I found was www.beatlesagain.com on this site it talks in further detail about the "cover-up" of Paul's death and then the revealing backwards lyrics on the white album. I never knew people thought he died some years earlier (1966), then the Beatles at the height of their popularity were forced to hold a secret look-alike contest and replaced him with some guy who is to this day the fake Paul McCartney. Wow, that's quite a story....check it out it's kinda fun you can listen to some of the clues in the songs. A final website is http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2813/cnn-dicks-cheney-subliminal-messages according to this website, we as Americans, dislike Dick Cheney due to a "Communist News Network" who has been defiling his name by puting 1/15th of a second, subliminal propoganda across the screen, like the famed 'X' through his face during a CNN interview last week. Really?! First off pulling the whole "communist" line is so James Bond circa 1975. Thanks Cold War but were on to terrorism in a different region! Second,call me a bleeding heart liberal but I doubt Dick's approval rating is at a 19% because he's a warm teddy bear wanting to do what's best for Americans but, dang-it, foiled again those liberals have pulled out their magic subliminal messaging system! Beyond my control I am forced to hate the dearly beloved Dick Cheney! Anyway it's some fun stuff to check out. I am looking forward to the video with the Amazing Randy (right?) tomorrow, oh darn, I've been playing too long it will be later today now. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 17:01:17 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shawn Bassett) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] gre is fine what about lifestyle Message-ID: I just wanted to add a quick little blurb to the entry about, there needing to be a cut off for grad school with the GRE. I know that the main intention was to make the statement to get invovled with a proffesor but soome times that is not all the time possible as well. Particularly here at UofU there are alot of students with families trying to better themselve. I dont know everyones situation but try to maintain high A's with a fiew B's while trying to raises a couple of kids a maintain a full time job so they don't suffer financially and so you are not abusing the welfare system. Put in hours of research experience and make friends with a proffesor. yeah it's a lot on the plate. The problem with having GRE be a focus is that it tends to be an inital disqualification. If things are high in this area and grades they tend to not look at anything else. This all while competing with a bunch of applicants that parents paid for school and they were able to just focus on school and their busy busy social life. Not to say that you have this situation but it does exist and I wouldn't say that they would be a better candidate than the one with the family. I would say that I agree there needs to be a type of grade cut offor comparison but it needs to be something of a final decision and not the means for the initial cutoff. deal with the issues that show that a person has the ability to do multiple things in life. I dont mean to sound abrasive but I know a few people here at the U that fall into this situation that may not be top choice for a graduate school because they have so much going on but I dont think I have met many others that are as capable in the field they have chosen. Shawn _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Is it just me or does that sound an awful lot like believing something that is not scientificaly provable on the basis of "faith" I am not trying to tear down anyone's belief systems here I just felt the need to point it out so that everyone may realize that they could be making fun of someone for beliefs that scientificly speaking make about as much sense as their own beliefs. Personaly, while it funny that it was shown that these many institutions in Russia were a bunch of hooey; I personally would question whether the people going to the "clinic" in the video would be able to spend the same money to go to a doctor in the area and actually recieve proper medical treatment. Just food for thought David Jones From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 19:39:18 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:39:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Re: The Placebo effect as a possible fruit of Parapsychological research Message-ID: <1133897958.4395e8e6acef9@webmail.utah.edu> In class today, we watched the skeptic's view of parapsychology. Of course many supposed psychic phenomena were shown to be highly improbable due to lack of empirically valid statistically significant results. Yet, I think that we miss an essential portion of the writing on the wall. Though there may not have been anything special about the water used to "cure" people or Rev. Popov may not have had God's healing power, we still are left with evidence of the placebo effect. The placebo effect is so evidently pronounced that all western emirical research, especially that of pharmeceuticals, must control and account for the influence of the placebo effect. What must be realized is that the placebo effect is controlled for inorder to demonstrte the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of the drug, but the placebo effect itself is seldom explored or related in terms of its implications. SO.. What power does belief truly have. How is it that someone who believes that they are recieving some type of cure can mentally and physiologically affect their state of well-being. I don't intend to assert any mechanism or obvious capability of mind as being psychic or having telekinetic ability, but something is going on. The simple point is that we need more research with a focu on exploring the nature of belief affecting both physiologically and mentally the state of our being. As the western tradition has employed the pill and procedures as the ultimate ability to address problems, we have left the evident power of mind in the shadows. Perhaps studies should focus on eliciting the placebo effect rather than only attempting to qualify some drug. nWe know very little about how potent our conscious states may be in effecting our physiological and mental systems. So, as we mock many of the endeavors that are "exposed" by parapsychological research, perhaps we should be truly amazed at the magic of our belief affecting the world around us. If so many of the recent phenomena we have explored has seemed to debunk wierd and super-atural claims,perhaps at the ground level we may be astounded by the very powers we contain, but yet don't understand or know how to control, in terms of believing extraordinary things that then affect our experience as well as physical bodies. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAoAAAASIgkEAAAQAAAADCJQUwIAEiIJBAAA --0-1557800762-1133902471=:21966-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 22:10:48 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ciege Schlesinger) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:10:48 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I really enjoyed the lecture last Thursday about parapsychology and I thought that the video today was very interesting. When he went into the classroom and did that lecture, and the boy said that he still didn't disprove things or whatever, you can totally tell when people believe in stuff like that... Like he obviously did. I think it is interesting to hear all the stuff they can do to make you believe that kind of stuff... And it was awesome how they couldn't get that guy to perform on the show, yet people still didn't see through him. I also thought it was so, so sad when that guy, who was pretending to be all religious and that God spoke to him, that was scamming those people and getting his money and I am glad he finally filed bankruptcy. When I went to Hawaii two summers ago I decided to do a fortune teller... I don't believe in those things but I thought it would be interesting. She of course hit things right on and after in the car we were talking about it and I said how she was so broad on everything that if she wasn't right it would be weird. For me, I think it is interesting but how much money and how people read into it so much can be very scary. I hope everyone does well on the exam!! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 22:21:32 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jessica Berry) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:21:32 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Psychics In-Reply-To: <200512062056.NAA02395@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Psychics provide a belief system for a subset of individuals who need to have some kind of faith in a world of unknowns. The information provided by the psychic allows the individuals to engage in introspection and self-definition, which is imperative for a fulfilling life. This act is not unlike therapy. The act of a psychic reading allows an individual to experience a feeling of being accompanied in the universe, rather than a stark and lonely feeling of the scientific world, where irrationality is not allowed. I think this meets a basic human need of security in an unknown and uncontrollable world. The paranormal can be seen to provide a belief system that accompanies, or perhaps replaces, a religious belief system. The scientist’s ability to disprove paranormal activity can also be applied to religion. So, why is it that we didn’t dissect religion the way that we dissect the paranormal? Because the belief systems of those who believe in paranormal activity are already in the minority group in this society. We wouldn’t touch religion in this class with a 10-foot pole, especially in this state. Where I don’t condone the exploitation of the vulnerable, as many psychics and magicians do, I think those who believe in paranormal activity can show us a lot about the basics of human nature: the need for an answer to life. I also don’t necessarily think people are always being exploited. I think most people think there is monetary risk involved when visiting a psychic. People are paying for some help with introspection, and in some cases, hope. Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind because that is not the kind of mind humans have. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 23:39:43 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shawn Bassett) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] let people be. Message-ID: in class I made some comments about the video and I must add that I apologize to anyone that may believe in a lot of these things. An earlier post kind of sparked a thought and I would like to agree with it. There are a lot of beliefs out there and who am I to decide which is true to others. I wouldn't like for someone to mock my beliefs. also with the other post these views if nothing else give people direction the same as any religion. I don't believe in any of it on the lifestyle level, there have been several unexplained events in our lives and if you want to believe mad props to you. I apologize if any in class believes in it and was offended by anything I said. Shawn _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 02:01:23 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kendrick) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:01:23 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] response to shawn Message-ID: <33375ed40512061801w26071e64mf9c23090d831912e@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline actually Shawn, although I can't speak directly for myself, I do have some understanding in the situations you suggested. I put my wife through school for 10 years, we have 2 kids (with one on the way--in 2 weeks) and w= e managed to get her through the community college, pre-reqs for pharmacy school at the U, then pharmacy school, then her Pharm-D, then a fellowship and a masters in Public Health. I know all about juggling jobs, kids, and life. Its not really any easier for students whose parents pay for their education... you'd think it would be, but you might be surprised on how well/not well they typically do academically. (this I know personally). I= t was very very difficult getting my wife through pharmacy school, and we both had to sacrifice. The one area we refused to sacrifice was in raising our kids. I got a job that enabled me to pretty much make my own schedule and we managed to get through those 10 + years w/out hardly any daycare/grandmas/babysitters. Now that she's done, it my turn to go to school and finish up. Sometimes I feel that the odds are stacked against me. I'm usually the oldest student in all my classes. I'm often older tha= n the TA's and sometimes even older than the professors. Its a challenge. And I haven't even started to think about hooking up w/someone for research,(which by the way, Joel mentioned how he needs help in his lab jus= t today...) so I guess I don't really know what that is all about, but I do know that if you want it bad enough, you'll do what you have to do to make it happen. At least that's all I've got going for me anyways. ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline actually Shawn, although I can't speak directly for myself, I do have some = understanding in the  situations you suggested.  I put my wife th= rough school for 10 years, we have 2 kids (with one on the way--in 2 weeks)= and we managed to get her through the  community college, pre-reqs fo= r pharmacy school at the U, then pharmacy school, then her Pharm-D, then a = fellowship and a masters in Public Health.  I know all about juggling = jobs, kids, and  life.  Its not really any easier for students wh= ose parents pay for their education... you'd think it would be, but you mig= ht be surprised on how well/not well they typically do academical= ly.  (this I know personally).  It was very  very difficult = getting my wife through pharmacy school, and we both had to sacrifice. = ; The one area we refused to sacrifice was in raising our kids.  I got= a job that enabled me to pretty much make my own schedule and we managed t= o get through those 10 + years w/out hardly any daycare/grandmas/babysitter= s.  Now that she's done, it my turn to go to school and finish up.&nbs= p; Sometimes I feel that the odds are stacked against me.  I'm usually= the oldest student in all my classes.  I'm often older than the TA's = and sometimes even older than the professors.  Its a challenge.  = And I haven't even started to think about hooking up w/someone for research= ,(which by the way, Joel mentioned how he needs help in his lab just t= oday...) so I guess I don't really know what that is all about, but I = do know that if you want it bad enough, you'll do what you have to do to ma= ke it happen.  At least that's all I've got going for me anyways. ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 02:02:19 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kamicia Miller) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:02:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] video thoughts Message-ID:


I enjoyed the video we watched today.  I personally don't believe in psychics or stuff like that so it was good to see someone that was able to really test them.  I wonder if psychics or "faith healers" get together and talk about different things to do, new approches or giving tips.  If they did, that would be a nice network in the business and away to keep on top of things so you look believable, but on the other hand, I think that most of the people are in it to make as much money as they can, so do they really want to give secrets to competion?  I guess there are pro's and con's to both situations.  The class has definetly taught me to be more skeptical.  such as this parapsychology stuff and eye witness testimonies, even what I see with my own eyes--  how the brain "fills in the gaps".  I've enjoyed learning and understanding the processes of the brain.   

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[Psych3120] science and the paranormal... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable She said that "Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind = because that is not the=20 kind of mind humans have." To some degree I agree. While I tend to be = skeptical with respect to the whole paranormal thing, I do believe that = there are lots of things that science cannot explain. Within the = theories that scientists formulate there are many unanswered questions. = It somewhat bothers me that some scientists think that they know = everything. It seems that we forget that science forms THEORIES and = while we tend to accept them as true, it should be on the condition that = we realize that there could be a better way to explain the phenomena = that so abundantly surround us. In science, we're stuck taking things = on faith because ultimately, we cannot prove a theory true. We can = justify a claim based on evidence we collect but, in the history of = science, how many times have we assumed the wrong thing? The scientific = method can be used to prove a theory wrong but not right. We would do = well to remember that. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
She said that "Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind = because=20 that is not the
kind of mind humans have."  To some degree I=20 agree.  While I tend to be skeptical with respect = to the=20 whole paranormal thing, I do believe that there are lots of things that = science=20 cannot explain.  Within the theories that scientists formulate = there are=20 many unanswered questions.  It somewhat bothers me that some = scientists=20 think that they know everything.  It seems that we forget that = science=20 forms THEORIES and while we tend to accept them as true, it should be on = the=20 condition that we realize that there could be a better way to explain = the=20 phenomena that so abundantly surround us.  In science, we're stuck = taking=20 things on faith because ultimately, we cannot prove a theory true.  = We can=20 justify a claim based on evidence we collect but, in the history of = science, how=20 many times have we assumed the wrong thing?  The scientific method = can be=20 used to prove a theory wrong but not right.  We would do well to = remember=20 that.

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 04:08:24 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:08:24 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is an intriguing point. Has anyone done any research looking more = at the placebo effect? ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is an intriguing point.  Has anyone done any research = looking=20 more at the placebo effect?
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 18:52:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:52:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] mind body healing In-Reply-To: <200512070251.TAA06342@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051207185244.54968.qmail@web34013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There were several good points discussed in class after the video. I have to agree that as long as the belief does not go too far, there is no harm in someone believeing in the paranormal. I dont think that people should spend a lot of money searching for answers through these method, but if it gives them hope, then maybe that is all they have. A website I found touched on these subjects a bit, and I found it to be interesting. It says : "Since time immemorial, healers have respected the link between mind and body--namely, how emotions can both create disease as well as heal it. Indeed, anthropologists who have explored the history of healing have long been aware of the pivotal role that the mind-body connection has played in different cultures, throughout the ages. Modern scientists, however, have been reluctant to acknowledge the existence of the ephemeral mind-body connection, primarily because the power of the mind to induce healing could not be proven by clinical research. For this reason, the treatment of mind and body has been kept strictly separate. Medical schools, for instance, have traditionally given more credence to medical or surgical solutions rather than psychiatric ones. But things are now changing. Over the last decade, well-designed research studies have been conducted, and there's currently an accumulating mass of scientific data showing just how intimately connected mind and body truly are." If you want to read more about mind body healing, the link is www.wholehealthmd.com/print/view/1,1560,AR_1198,00.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
There were several good points discussed in class after the video. I have to agree that as long as the belief does not go too far, there is no harm in someone believeing in the paranormal. I dont think that people should spend a lot of money searching for answers through these method, but if it gives them hope, then maybe that is all they have. A website I found touched on these subjects a bit, and I found it to be interesting. It says :
 
"Since time immemorial, healers have respected the link between mind and body--namely, how emotions can both create disease as well as heal it. Indeed, anthropologists who have explored the history of healing have long been aware of the pivotal role that the mind-body connection has played in different cultures, throughout the ages.
Modern scientists, however, have been reluctant to acknowledge the existence of the ephemeral mind-body connection, primarily because the power of the mind to induce healing could not be proven by clinical research. For this reason, the treatment of mind and body has been kept strictly separate. Medical schools, for instance, have traditionally given more credence to medical or surgical solutions rather than psychiatric ones.
But things are now changing. Over the last decade, well-designed research studies have been conducted, and there's currently an accumulating mass of scientific data showing just how intimately connected mind and body truly are."
 
If you want to read more about mind body healing, the link is


Yahoo! Personals
Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.
Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 19:11:18 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Trinity Allred) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:11:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I think that movie we watched in class yesterday was neat. I especially thought the bit about the russians was really interesting. My in-laws spent extensive time all over in that country. Most of the people there believe in this psychic healing stuff. At least that is what my in-laws tell me. What is really really amazing to me that these people will spend most of their income on this "healing" program. But I guess that is no different than people here spending $100 per visit to a chiropractor. It is all a bunch of bologna. Trinity A. Allred _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 20:49:14 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] farewell message board Message-ID: <8C7C986D156D17A-14BC-144CF@FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yesterday's video on the paranormal was really entertaining and interesting. It complemented Thursday's discussion on claims of the paranormal from last Thursday. Some people also made some very interesting comments regarding this topic following the class on Tuesday and on the message board. I have enjoyed reading what others have had to say. Personally, I have always been pretty skeptical of things like this. It is fun and amusing, but not scientific. However, I agree with what many others have said about how it doesn't need to be scientific to be believed by many. And the power of the placebo effect was mentioned many times and is quite apparent in the video. People will believe what they want to believe, and if it gives people direction, than that is just fine. But as a psychology major, I can understand why many people call it all a hoax. On another note...I know our test review is tomorrow, but I was just finishing the study guide and I was wondering if anyone knew the strengths and weakness of Anderson's and Logan's theories (question #4). Were these ever specifically mentioned in class? If anyone knows, please post something. Lastly, I just want to thank everyone who participated in the message board. Many stimulating thougts were offered and there were lots of helpful messages regarding lectures, test questions, etc. I really enjoyed and appreciated the message board. Hope everyone does well on the test! -Danielle Stocking ----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Yesterday's video on the paranormal was really entertaining and interesting.  It complemented Thursday's discussion on claims of the paranormal from last Thursday.  Some people also made some very interesting comments regarding this topic following the class on Tuesday and on the message board.  I have enjoyed reading what others have had to say.  Personally, I have always been pretty skeptical of things like this.  It is fun and amusing, but not scientific.  However, I agree with what many others have said about how it doesn't need to be scientific to be believed by many.  And the power of the placebo effect was mentioned many times and is quite apparent in the video.  People will believe what they want to believe, and if it gives people direction, than that is just fine.  But as a psychology major, I can understand why many people call it all a hoax. 
On another note...I know our test review is tomorrow, but I was just finishing the study guide and I was wondering if anyone knew the strengths and weakness of Anderson's and Logan's theories (question #4).  Were these ever specifically mentioned in class?  If anyone knows, please post something.
Lastly, I just want to thank everyone who participated in the message board.  Many stimulating thougts were offered and there were lots of helpful messages regarding lectures, test questions, etc.  I really enjoyed and appreciated the message board.  Hope everyone does well on the test!
-Danielle Stocking 
----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 20:55:24 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:55:24 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] Exam 3 question 5 Message-ID: <8C7C987ADB87801-170C-18242@mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C987AD925281_170C_1079D_mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in in decision making. Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually give an acceptable solution. There are used to speed up decision making, and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms, a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected correctly produce optimal decision. These algorithm's can be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics, one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind. If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities. You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation of the problem, then adjust this estimate upward or downward on the basis of other information the problem. The confirmation bias of heuristics is the tendency to seek information that confirms the initial hypothesis. Another bias is when part of anchoring bias. If you are given a series of pieces of information, you give more weight to early evidence in the sequence. For example when purchasing a car you are more likely to look at the car that starts off by saying that it's great on mileage, it's clean, and no rust then a description of a car that starts off by saying that it's rusted, not so good on gas, but it's clean. ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7C987AD925281_170C_1079D_mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
 
 
 
 
I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in
in decision making.
Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to
use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually
give an acceptable solution.  There are used to speed up decision making,
and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and
inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms,
a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected
correctly produce optimal decision.  These algorithm's can
be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics,
one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the
probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly
associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge
the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind.
If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more
 probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities.
 You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation
of the problem, then adjust this estimate upward or downward on the basis of
other information the problem. The confirmation bias of heuristics is the tendency
to seek information that confirms the initial hypothesis. Another bias is when part of
anchoring bias. If you are given a series of pieces of information, you give more
weight to early evidence in the sequence. For example when purchasing a car
you are more likely to look at the car that starts off by saying that it's great on mileage,
it's clean, and no rust then a description of a car that starts off by saying that it's rusted,
not so good on gas, but it's clean.

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The study appears in the current November issue of Neuropsychology, which is published by the American Psychological Association. Maybe this means that the 7 sins of memory will become the 8 sins of memory, adding high blood pressure to the list. Ok, probably not. Spencer Banks From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 8 06:01:43 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Doug Christopherson) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:01:43 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Message delayed Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1e5e_6c77_219a Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Joel- I sent this message last week and received a notification telling me it was delayed. I just wanted to make sure that you saw it was posted. 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The golf swing is a perfect example of this. When I golf I like to warm-up before I play by hitting a few balls. After I'm warm, however, I stop immediately because I don't want to waste the mental energy on the practice range that I could be using on the course. I suppose this is an example of how an implicit memory task can become more complicated when we try to think about it explicitly. I seem to play my best golf when I am relaxed and don't care about my score. The moment (literally) I start thinking about where my swing plane is, or if my grip is too strong, or whatever else, my swing plane becomes off, my grip becomes too strong, etc. Instances like these remind me of "What the Bleep Do We Know", and just how much we become what we think. The more I question the way I golf, the less able I am to perform. Maybe that's why Happy Gilmore's swing was so effective (ha). 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-------------------------------1134066775-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 8 18:52:39 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:52:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] skepticism In-Reply-To: <200512071901.MAA15219@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051208185239.90187.qmail@web34003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-152175001-1134067959=:89409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When I first read question number 8 on the study guide, I thought that it was a little ridiculous. That is until I starting thinking about it. All semester we have been talking about the fallacies of the human experience. Over and over again when we were studying perception we were presented with examples of how our mind/eyes make up for what we cannot see. Especially in peripheral vision, where we fill in the blanks. Also when presented with a picture upside down, it can look vastly different than it does right side up, or pictures can even appear to be moving if looked at in the right way. But it is not only our vision that can fail us. Our memory is not perfect either. If prompted correctly we may remember something distinctly that never actually happened. All of this could be reason for one to be skeptical of the world around them and any inconsistencies with natural occurances. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-152175001-1134067959=:89409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
When I first read question number 8 on the study guide, I thought that it was a little ridiculous. That is until I starting thinking about it. All semester we have been talking about the fallacies of the human experience. Over and over again when we were studying perception we were presented with examples of how our mind/eyes make up for what we cannot see. Especially in peripheral vision, where we fill in the blanks. Also when presented with a picture upside down, it can look vastly different than it does right side up, or pictures can even appear to be moving if looked at in the right way. But it is not only our vision that can fail us. Our memory is not perfect either. If prompted correctly we may remember something distinctly that never actually happened. All of this could be reason for one to be skeptical of the world around them and any inconsistencies with natural occurances.


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Hello all,

  I wanted to address this weeks post about that psychic video we watched.  I really enjoyed it.  I actually found it quite amusing, not to mention very entertaining.  Watching those people that actually believe that they had some sort of psychic type of ability was interesting...it makes me want to diagnose them with a mental disorder, but I will leave that up to the professionals.  I think my favorite part about the video was when those two women tried to describe TED BUNDY's character...ha ha.  Very interesting how they got 2/3 of what they said was wrong.  Hmm...I might have to invest in that book about why people believe wierd things.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 9 04:44:27 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kevin davis) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:44:27 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ACT Architecture? Message-ID: Hey everyone. I've been writing out answers in preparaton for the test and have seem to be doing alright save for coming up with a brief description of the ACT model. I think I get the general idea of it but I could use some help putting the processes of the model into words (if that makes sense). So if anyone wants to practice a little I (and I'm sure others) would be very appreciative. Anyway I hope ya'll have a good weekend. Don't study too hard. -Kevin From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 9 17:40:52 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jonathan Gallimore) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:40:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] RE: a fun horoscope thing Message-ID: <20051209174052.51947.qmail@web34610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay I know that everyone is cramming for finals but I got this cool horoscope type of thing in my e-mail and I thought that I could pass it on to all of you. As you do this look at how accurate the answers are for you, and also look at how the answers are broad and vague and could apply to almost anyone. This is a good exercise in critical thinking and remember that critical thinking does not only apply to parapsychology but also to psychology as well. It is our duty to critically read over studies and examine the evidence to see if there are flaws just like what you are doing with this test. Thanks. ---Jonathan Gallimore Horoscope Test... If you are honest this tells the truth - it's pretty good Write your answers on a piece of paper. No cheating !! The answers are at the bottom of this page. 1. Write the name of a person of the opposite sex. 2. Which is your favourite colour out of red, black, blue, green, yellow? 3. Your first initial? 4. Your month of birth? 5. Which color do you like more, black or white? 6. Name of a person of the same sex as yours. 7. Your favourite number? 8. Do you like Sydney or Brisbane more? 9. Do you like a lake or the ocean more? 10. Write down a wish (a realistic one). When you're done, scroll down. (Don't cheat) Answers: 1. You are completely in love with this person. 2. If you choose: Red - You are alert and your life is full of love. Black - you are conservative and aggressive. Green - your soul is relaxed and you are laid back Blue - you are spontaneous and love kisses and affection from the ones you love. Yellow- you are a very happy person and give good advice to those who are down. 3.If your initial is: A-K You have a lot of love to give in friendships in your life. L-R You try to enjoy your life to the maximum and your love life is soon to blossom. S-Z You like to help others and your future love life looks very good. 4.If you were born in: Jan-Mar: The year will go very well for you and you will discover that you fall in love with someone totally unexpected. April-June: You will have a strong love relationship that will last long and the memories will last forever. July-Sep: You will have a great year and will experience a major life-changing experience for the good. Oct-Dec: Your love life will not be too great, but eventually you will find your soul mate. 5.If you chose..... Black: Your life will take on a different direction, it will be the best thing for you, and you will be glad for the change. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 9 20:05:46 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Rachel B) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:05:46 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: When I was about 10 years old, I was very scared about the possibility of aliens. I woke up in the middle of the night and as I was going to the bathroom, I noticed something flying outside in the distance that looked like a flying saucer. I was so convinced that seeing is believing that I sat by the window for the next hour or so until it came closer to the house. I felt really crazy when it got close enough I could see it was a blimp!! That was my lesson not to believe what everyone tells you. I have been much more skeptical since that happened. I really enjoyed the video in class. It is amazing what people will pay for to be cured. -Rachel Braun Johnson From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 10 02:14:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Callister) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:14:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] palm reading-post 14 Message-ID: <20051210021453.48088.qmail@web32909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1177450400-1134180893=:45686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The other day I went to visit a friend with my wife. This friend had her sister over who is a palm reader. We got to talking, and I asked her about her "gift" as she referred to it as. She said that she communicates with the dead all the time and that she is able to relay messages from the dead to their loved ones. We gave her certain tid bits of info about ourselves, and after a 20 minute conversation, she offered to read our palms. I agreed because I was so curious as to what she would say. She told us about 5 things that were correct, and about 5 that were not correct. I did notice something ironic however. If you don't believe in palm readings (as I don't) you should get one and focus on the things that they tell you. Two key points stuck out to me. 1) they will always engage in a conversation with you before they read your palm, and then will regurgitate things back to you that you may have already revealed to them, most likely subconciously. 2) They say many generic things that could be true for a number of different people. Also, I believe that palm readers who are really good, are also very good facial expression readers. I think that as they are telling you something, they will continue based on your reaction. So in essence, it is true that good palm readers are also good psychologists, they just don't want you to know it. :) Dave --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! 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The other day I went to visit a friend with my wife.  This friend had her sister over who is a palm reader.  We got to talking, and I asked her about her "gift" as she referred to it as.  She said that she communicates with the dead all the time and that she is able to relay messages from the dead to their loved ones.  We gave her certain tid bits of info about ourselves, and after a 20 minute conversation, she offered to read our palms.  I agreed because I was so curious as to what she would say.  She told us about 5 things that were correct, and about 5 that were not correct.  I did notice something ironic however.  If you don't believe in palm readings (as I don't) you should get one and focus on the things that they tell you.  Two key points stuck out to me.  1) they will always engage in a conversation with you before they read your palm, and then will regurgitate things back to you that you may have already revealed to them, most likely subconciously.  2) They say many generic things that could be true for a number of different people.  Also, I believe that palm readers who are really good, are also very good facial expression readers.  I think that as they are telling you something, they will continue based on your reaction.  So in essence, it is true that good palm readers are also good psychologists, they just don't want you to know it. :)
 
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My study partner and I had some trouble with this question.  We put the best information we could together.  I hope this can help others and maybe I can get some feedback too.  Thanks!

Parallel Distributed Processing (PDP) models constitute a new approach to issues of representation in cognitive psychology. Briefly describe the assumptions of PDP models. How would such models account for instance and prototype formation? How would such models account for semantic priming?
Book pgs. 268-273, 549
Online notes dated: 11/25
Class notes dated: 11/29
Parallel Distributed Processing (PDP) is a model using a distributed representation with nodes and links.  The model learns as weights are modified.  Parallel – many computations at once.  Distributed – many processing units.  Processing  - information processing.  A PDP is a three layer network.  The two outside layers are input nodes and output nodes.  The layer in the middle is hidden nodes (also can be thought of as inter-neurons).  Hidden layers act as abstract associations between input and output.  PDP is a neural inspired model of cognition with simple neural like processing units.  The processing units are highly interconnected.  Memory representations are distributed throughout the network.  This model is used to determine how the mind works (can you get a car loan, get a credit card, make stock market predictions).  The more stable something is, the more predictable it is when using this model and other neural network models.  Memories are represented in the connections between processing units.  The two types of connections are inhibitory and facilitory.  Inhibitory connections can be illustrated using the Necker Cube.  Inhibitory connections inhibit your ability to see both sides of the Necker Cube at once.  PDP is a simple pattern associator where patterns are represented as a collection of features (Visual pattern of rose could be represented like the following: +1, -1, -1, +1; Smell pattern of a rose could be represented like the following: -1, -1, +1, +1)  These patterns are combined to create a network.  This rose example would combine the visual and smell patterns to create a 16 unit network.  Given a visual pattern of a rose, the network can produce the smell of a rose.  Given the smell pattern of a rose, the network can produce the visual pattern of a rose.  This model is fault tolerant.  You can lose some input but still receive an output.  You don’t have to have complete input for the network to produce plausible output.  For example, you could still recognize a rose even if you couldn’t see the stem.  Another feature of the PDP model is graceful degradation.  Graceful degradation means that if part of the system is damages or malfunctions, it doesn’t shut down.  Performance may get worse, but the system is still somewhat functional.  Generalization is also incorporated into the model.  With generalization you respond to a new stimulus in the way you would respond to an old stimulus that is similar.  For example, you are trying to figure out the flavor of the ice cream you are eating.  You would say “it’s not vanilla but it tastes like vanilla.”
PDP models account for instance, prototype, and semantic priming.  Instances are stored in memory.  They will be recognized as instances and not generalities unless the instance continues to happen over and over at which time it may become a generality.  Unique features for instances.  Prototypes are a generic representation of a stimulus.  Common features form prototypes.  The neural network will work as a signal averager that will create a prototype for something according to what are the most common features for that prototype.  For example, the prototype for a dog is that is has four legs, a tail, two ears, fur/hair, etc.  Prototypes are an emergent property of superpositional memory.  Superpositional memories are single memories that have some common features that are laid on top of each other.  Within the PDP models, semantic priming is not due to spreading activation.  Semantic priming occurs because the state that the network settles into on the Prime is similar to the state that the network settles into on the Probe (facilitation).  If you see breadànurse and doctorànurse, semantic priming would occur in doctorànurse because they are similar therefore having similar neural networks.


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-2045257855-1134242677=:85024-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 10 23:12:34 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kendrick) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] palm reading Message-ID: <33375ed40512101512q6f33b5bcu49645e121a504ba0@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_18252_19635180.1134256354004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Did you know that there is a palm reading class available here at the U?! Its in the llpd - personal development section of the spring 2006 classes. You don't get credit, but you may be able to start a nice career or pay for college, like that fella in the video earlier this week. Anyhow, I hope I didn't offend people with one of my posts. I just sometimes get frustrated about how "not fair" things are, when really it isn't fair for everyone. If getting the bachelor's is killing you, from what I hear grad school will destroy you. I just figure if my wife can do it, so can I and so can anyone else who really wants it. Thats kind of wha= t I meant. Probably didn't win any friends again. Kendrick. ------=_Part_18252_19635180.1134256354004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Did you know that there is a palm reading class available  here a= t the U?!  Its in the llpd - personal development section of the sprin= g 2006 classes.  You don't get credit, but you may be able to start a = nice career or pay for college, like that fella in the video earlier this w= eek. =20
 
Anyhow, I hope I didn't offend people with one of my posts.  I ju= st sometimes get frustrated about how "not fair" things are, when= really it isn't fair for everyone.  If getting the bachelor= 's is killing you, from what I hear grad school will destroy you.  I j= ust figure if my wife can do it, so can I and so can anyone else who really= wants it.  Thats kind of what I meant.  Probably didn't win any = friends again.
 
Kendrick.
------=_Part_18252_19635180.1134256354004-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 11 00:32:12 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Liljenquist) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:32:12 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I was reading previous posts and one struck me. It regarded the movie we watched in class on Tuesday and the concept of parapsychology in general. The person (I'm so sorry I forgot your name!) talked about how certain things, such as palm readings and astrology, give people direction. Perhaps we think they are absolutely insane. Some people believe in these concepts with every fiber of their being and this could be due to the fact that they receive hope and guidance from hearing that they will meet the man or woman of their dreams someday. It was interesting to hear from the man who devoted his life to disproving concepts of parapsychology. What was even more interesting is that when he exposed the deceit, or attempted to expose the deceit, many people continued to believe. It kind of proved that it is not just the concept of believing, but instead it's about the sense of hope. I mean I'll be honest, I own a 2005 Aries Horoscope book and I've been known to share certain passages with my friends that I have looked into way too much...and that's just it, I wanted certain things to be true so badly, that I looked into them way too much. I'm sure many of you can relate to this as well. So maybe we should let those people carry on and believe. If it makes you happy, wonderful. Carry on, friends. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 11 01:25:45 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Abby Wright) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:25:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Posting #14 Message-ID: Well, I can’t believe the semester has finally come to an end! Time flies when you’re having fun I suppose. Anyway, I just want to comment on James Randi’s website. I don’t know if any of you know her, but the renowned psychic Sylvia Brown (who has a regular guest appearance on Montel) has accepted the million dollar challenge back in 2001. However, she has yet to make good on her acceptance. Personally, I am not surprised. After seeing that NOVA special and how Randi managed to show that those two Russian psychics weren’t very good, I’m surprised that anyone would accept his challenge. What’s funny though, is on his website it a calendar of the weeks that have gone by since she accepted the challenge. Anyway, I want to wish everyone good luck on the test, and thank Dr. Strayer and Joel for a wonderful, enriching semester :) From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 11 17:38:51 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:38:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <20051211173851.14831.qmail@web52403.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1978301014-1134322731=:14295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Not that I don't think there is a billion dollar industry built off of scamming others, but that is not to say that everything can be discredited on that basis. Also I think people forget the fact that astrology has been around since the dawn of civilization and has a scientific mathematical origin. Whether or not people read them correctly and just how much can be “seen” through them is another question. Astrology has been the bases of people's faith to millions everywhere throughout generations. It’s not what you believe in that matters it’s what you get from believing in something. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1978301014-1134322731=:14295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Not that I don't think there is a billion dollar industry built off of scamming others, but that is not to say that everything can be discredited on that basis.
Also I think people forget the fact that astrology has been around since the dawn of civilization and has a scientific mathematical origin.  Whether or not people read them correctly and just how much can be “seen” through them is another question.  Astrology has been the bases of people's faith to millions everywhere throughout generations.  It’s not what you believe in that matters it’s what you get from believing in something.


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1978301014-1134322731=:14295-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 11 21:48:34 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jonathan Gallimore) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:48:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] RE: study session Message-ID: <20051211214834.64484.qmail@web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I talked with some people Thursday after class about a study session on Tuesday and I wanted to give them the room number for that and it is 1007 in the BHS building. You need to go to the tenth floor turn right off of the elevator and it is the first door on your right. For those of you interested in joining it is Tuesday 12/13/2005 at 10:45 am until we pass out and die from studying ((hahahahaha)) or decide to go home. Any question then please e-mail me at godjon@yahoo.com. Thank you! ----Jonathan Gallimore __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 11 22:32:50 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Jones) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The Debate Message-ID: It's interesting to see how much discussion this last class period has given the class. It seems that everybody has a say when relating to psychics and astrology and the like. There is no definitive answer and people seem to have a response to that which everyone else has to say. I think it would be safe to say that these thoughts of the paranormal can be a huge part of peoples lives. It is just interesting how everybody relates to them in different ways. On a side note since we were thinking of the paranormal I realized that it could just be mentioned how other "unexplainable" events could be seen in a different light now that we have learned so much about cognition. The Loch Ness monster seems to me easily explained now with how easily our eyes can fool us. David Jones From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 12 01:05:49 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Drew Bennion) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:05:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Post For Drew Bennion Message-ID: I found the video with the Amazing Randy probably one of the most interesting pieces of information Ive thought about this semester. Ive always known that there were people out there who truely believed in things that didn't necesaraly make sense to me. For the most part, I always thought that psychic readings and astrological predicitions were general statements intended only for entertainment. The part I don't like, as Randy pointed out, is when the line that separates reality is blurred and people fall for it. I don't know if anyone else out there has heard of Criss Angel-Mindfreak, but he is an amazing magician. He doesn't share his secrets however he never leads his audience to believe that he is magical in some way. He emphasizes the sleight of hand and sometimes talks about the same thing Randy talks about - manipulating people's perceptions to see things his way. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 12 02:16:05 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (nicole funk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:05 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post Message-ID:
I am starting to study for the final and I was going over the study guide and came across number 8.  I think it is important to have a skeptical approach to parapsychology so that you are not taken advantage of.  It is good to know where science stands on these issues.  Being skeptical means that you question accusations rather than buying in to every claim that comes along.  A skeptical approach would include questions like: What are the claims exactly?, What is the evidence for them?, Is this evidence credible?, Are there alternative interpretations?.  The material in this course is consistent with a skeptical approach to parapsychology.  Much of the material has involved analysis and questioning as well as looking at concrete, physical causes for different functions and malfunctions of the brain.  It is very important to have this approach to information that comes our way in order to use what we have learned about real evidence and how the mind works to find out what is actually true.   
 
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 12 06:03:18 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Doug Christopherson) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post-Doug Christopherson Message-ID: The power of the mind was very apparent in the show we watched on psychics. The self-fulfilling prophecy which Shawn mentioned (in his post) is all too real. Don't quantum physics and shows like "What the Bleep..." tell us that we are what we think? The clinic I work in at the hospital primarily does research on study medications. Typically, half of our patients will be on the medication being tested and the other half on placebo. In some cases the placebo medication works 30% of the time, that is 30% of the patients put on placebo see an improvement in whatever their particular psychological disorder may be. I can't tell you how much time I've wasted worrying about some future event only to have that negative thought fulfilled because I didn't do anything to prevent it in the present. Just think about how much we could accomplish if we were always thinking positively about the present. People seeking psychological treatment are often too reliant on their medication, and not reliant enough on changing their negative thinking. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 12 07:50:09 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (stevebeardshall@juno.com) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:50:09 GMT Subject: [Psych3120] Post #13 Message-ID: <20051211.235108.6340.112852@webmail23.lax.untd.com> I have been very interested in the last couple of classes. I don't now that I believe in any of the things that have been presented, I guess you could call me a "skeptic". However I do like how it has been pointed out that being a skeptic is really good. I think that having a guarded opinion in most things is the best way to go. In class we discussed all the pros and cons and I think the pros by far weigh out the cons. I was also impressed by the video and how it show that so many people are taken in by the false claims of others. I was especially surprised by the holy water in russia, i thought that was rediculous. Steve Beardshall From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 13 22:15:13 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jessica Berry) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Some notes on chapter 12: language In-Reply-To: <200512121901.MAA23389@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Chapter 12: Language 1. The process of differentiating individual speech sounds is even more difficult than identifying letters during reading. 2. Grammar and strings of words interpreted to signify meanings. 3. What makes language processing difficult? Language is full of ambiguities; words have multiple meaning, sentences can be interpreted in more than one way. 4. How are ambiguities resolved? The use of multiple sources of information at the same time. Context help to resolve ambiguity. 5. How are language and thought related? Can animals be taught the rudiments of language? Apes may have some rudimentary linguistic ability, but their skills have been exaggerated in the popular press. Do words and grammar of our language influence the way we think? The particular language you speak does have some effect on how you think. 6. What makes language processing difficult? There are ambiguities at every level of language: sentences, words, and even the sounds that compose individual words can be ambiguous. 7. Properties that help define language: 1. COMMUNICATIVE: Permits communication 2. ARBITRARY: The relationship between the elements in the language and their meaning is arbitrary. Arbitrariness is a key feature of symbols (i.e. it is all made up). A set of sounds stand for a particular meaning, but which sound stand for which meaning is arbitrary. 3. STRUCTURED: The pattern of symbols is not arbitrary (i.e. sentence: pattern of symbols creates meaning). 4. GENERATIVE: The basic units of language (words) can be used to build a limitless number of meanings. 5. DYNAMIC: Language is not static and is constantly changing as new words are added and the rules of grammar are modified. 8. Phonemes: individual speech sounds. (46 English) Difficult to perceive because individual speakers pronounce them differently. 9. Coarticulation: Making one movement in a way that anticipates future movements or is influenced by past movements. 10. Speech stream: researchers sometimes call speech this because when people speak, they produce a continuous stream of phonemes. --- song lyrics 11. People make inferences when they read text. 12. Grammar: set of rules that describe the permissible sentences that can be constructed in a language. Competence: people’s knowledge of grammar. Performance: the way people actually talk. Word-chain grammars propose that grammatical sentences are constructed word by word, with the speaker selecting the next word based on the associations of the rest of the words in the sentence. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 13 22:27:40 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:27:40 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: Exam 3 question 5 In-Reply-To: <8C7C987ADB87801-170C-18242@mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7C987ADB87801-170C-18242@mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C7CE4B9068F71A-178-10AAB@mblkn-m08.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7CE4B9068F71A_178_C05C_mblkn-m08.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- From: katiesosassie10 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:55:24 -0500 Subject: Exam 3 question 5 I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in in decision making. Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually give an acceptable solution. There are used to speed up decision making, and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms, a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected correctly produce optimal decision. These algorithm's can be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics, one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind. If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities. You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation of the problem, then adjust this estimate upward or downward on the basis of other information the problem. The confirmation bias of heuristics is the tendency to seek information that confirms the initial hypothesis. Another bias is when part of anchoring bias. If you are given a series of pieces of information, you give more weight to early evidence in the sequence. For example when purchasing a car you are more likely to look at the car that starts off by saying that it's great on mileage, it's clean, and no rust then a description of a car that starts off by saying that it's rusted, not so good on gas, but it's clean. Katie Homan Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! 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I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in
in decision making.
Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to
use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually
give an acceptable solution.  There are used to speed up decision making,
and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and
inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms,
a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected
correctly produce optimal decision.  These algorithm's can
be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics,
one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the
probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly
associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge
the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind.
If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more
 probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities.
 You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation
of the problem, then adjust this estimate upward or downward on the basis of
other information the problem. The confirmation bias of heuristics is the tendency
to seek information that confirms the initial hypothesis. Another bias is when part of
anchoring bias. If you are given a series of pieces of information, you give more
weight to early evidence in the sequence. For example when purchasing a car
you are more likely to look at the car that starts off by saying that it's great on mileage,
it's clean, and no rust then a description of a car that starts off by saying that it's rusted,
not so good on gas, but it's clean. Katie Homan

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It is really interesting reading some of other people's posts. After last Thursday's lecture on parapsychology, UFO's, subliminal messages, etc., lots of poeple posted how they don't believe but don't care if other people do. So I just typed in "aliens" on google to see how much it brought up. I was really surprised to see some of the stuff these websites had. I'm amazed at how many people do believe in this stuff. There are websites about kids who were abducted with thier stories and pictures they drew. I was just really surprised at what is on the internet. 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 02:18:41 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:18:41 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] posting (Eric Ashton) Message-ID: <1134526721.439f8101bc0a5@webmail.utah.edu> In class we have talked a lot about having a skeptical attitude and how people often get shafted by con-artists posers. For example the guy in Incredible Randy video who claimed to be healing people by thrusting out evil spirits from their bodies. It got me thinking about this dude Kevin Trudow. Some of you probably know who he is. Anyway he is on tv all the time promoting his book that supposedley has secret cures to cancer, arthritis, aids and on and on. Trudow claims that the FDA and the powers that be are hiding these cures. Unfortunately, the guy is selling lots of books and getting loaded of his lies. It stinks that a guy is gettting loaded by preying on innocent victims. Good luck on the last test everybody and have a good Chri, er, uh, I mean, uh, a good, um, holiday season. Eric Ashton From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 03:06:12 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Smalls) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:06:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] robert smalls Message-ID: <20051214030612.37870.qmail@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-894525404-1134529572=:36561 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was entirely dissapointed to find out all of the faith healing and space alien stuff might not be real :) Parapsychology is so intresting, I recently watched a program on a plane ride back from California about parapsychology. The most interesting topic was on the bodies supposible ability to generate a "special" energy that would protect the body from injury and allow it (the body) to heal immeadiately. Believers of this power would stab themselves with sharp objects; through the mouth or stomach and such. Then claim that the injury would heal abnormally fast. The subjects also reported to feel no pain. Scientific reaserchers got interested and preformed tests on one of the believers. They hooked him up to a machine that could measure the bodies energy. To make a long story short, the scientific team was not impressed in the end. And I was left feeling stupid because initially I thought there might be some relevancy to their claim. I have since learned to take the skeptical approach on all things, hopefully I will never be hoodwinked ever again :) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-894525404-1134529572=:36561 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 I was entirely dissapointed to find out all of the faith healing and space alien stuff might not be real :)
 Parapsychology is so intresting, I recently watched a program on a plane ride back from California about parapsychology.  The most interesting topic was on the bodies supposible ability to generate a "special" energy that would protect the body from injury and allow it (the body) to heal immeadiately. 
 Believers of this power would stab themselves with sharp objects; through the mouth or stomach and such.  Then claim that the injury would heal abnormally fast.  The subjects also reported to feel no pain.
 Scientific reaserchers got interested and preformed tests on one of the believers.  They hooked him up to a machine that could measure the bodies energy.  To make a long story short, the scientific team was not impressed in the end.  And I was left feeling stupid because initially I thought there might be some relevancy to their claim.
 I have since learned to take the skeptical approach on all things, hopefully I will never be hoodwinked ever again :)


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-894525404-1134529572=:36561-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 04:37:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (K B) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:37:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] STUDY GROUP!! Message-ID: can anyone get together for a study group wednesday after 5pm? let me know karaadrienne@hotmail.com or 8016523227 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 05:30:48 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eve Patterson) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:30:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] question #5 In-Reply-To: <200512121901.MAA23389@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051214053048.75268.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-605050512-1134538248=:70819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It's a rough version but hopefully it will help some of you. Yes I realize it's an easy question, give me a break! Describe the role hueristics play in decision making. What types of biases are introduced with hueristics? Hueristics are mental shortcuts we use to cut processing time in everyday decision making. They help us in many ways like simplifying cognitive complexity, speeding decision making and reducing the burden on working memory. This is a very hypothesis driven behavior which often causes cognitive “tunnel vision” because we often do not examine other options in order to stick with those that we know have worked in the past. Once we have formed these heuristics we often defend them by ignoring potentially negative information in order to keep these set of beliefs. To examine the types of biases associated with heuristics we must look at the most prevalent of heuristics. First is the availability heuristic—an example of this is when asked are there more words with ‘k’ at the beginning or third letter of a word most people will respond, the first letter, when there are actually way more with ‘k’ as the third letter. Why we make this mistake is because it is prevalent in our mind, the ease at which we bring a memory up leads us to estimate a higher likelihood of occurring. So the bias is that we tend to overestimate events, especially rare ones. The second heuristic is representativeness heuristic, this is a judgement strategy in which we make estimates on how similar (or representative) an event is to its population. An example of this is Frank who is a meek quiet person who loves to play chess and he majored in philosophy. Is Frank more likely to be a librarian or a businessman? When asked this question most people respond librarian because he is more representative of what a librarian is in their mind. But from a base rate stand point there are way more businessmen than librarians so he would be more likely to be a business man. So the bias for representativeness heuristic is our tendency to overestimate probabilities of thing happening based on our ability to bring those events to mind. Another heuristic is anchoring, the idea that when given a series of information you pay more attention to the info given early or last in the sequence. An example of this is when you go to sell a car put the good info first, for example Clean, fuel efficient, high mileage slight rust vs. Slight rust, high mileage, fuel efficient, clean. This is tied to a confirmation bias, the idea that we seek and find information that confirms initial hypothesis. A final heuristic is the “as if” heuristic which is when several sources, with different reliabilities are presented we tend to treat them “as if” they had the same level of reliability. An example of this comes from my husband’s job see he works up at the University E.R. and he constantly has patients come in that were on WebMD and they are convinced that they have a tumor, or had a stroke something huge like that but when the doctor gets in to see them they have indigestion or high anxiety. The point being a lot of people view WebMD as being as knowledgable as a doctor right in front of them. This bias is obviously viewing all sources of information as equally important. psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: study session (Jonathan Gallimore) 2. The Debate (Dave Jones) 3. Post For Drew Bennion (Drew Bennion) 4. Weekly Post (nicole funk) 5. weekly post-Doug Christopherson (Doug Christopherson) 6. Post #13 (stevebeardshall@juno.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:48:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Gallimore To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] RE: study session Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I talked with some people Thursday after class about a study session on Tuesday and I wanted to give them the room number for that and it is 1007 in the BHS building. You need to go to the tenth floor turn right off of the elevator and it is the first door on your right. For those of you interested in joining it is Tuesday 12/13/2005 at 10:45 am until we pass out and die from studying ((hahahahaha)) or decide to go home. Any question then please e-mail me at godjon@yahoo.com. Thank you! ----Jonathan Gallimore __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dave Jones" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The Debate Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu It's interesting to see how much discussion this last class period has given the class. It seems that everybody has a say when relating to psychics and astrology and the like. There is no definitive answer and people seem to have a response to that which everyone else has to say. I think it would be safe to say that these thoughts of the paranormal can be a huge part of peoples lives. It is just interesting how everybody relates to them in different ways. On a side note since we were thinking of the paranormal I realized that it could just be mentioned how other "unexplainable" events could be seen in a different light now that we have learned so much about cognition. The Loch Ness monster seems to me easily explained now with how easily our eyes can fool us. David Jones --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Drew Bennion" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:05:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Post For Drew Bennion Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I found the video with the Amazing Randy probably one of the most interesting pieces of information Ive thought about this semester. Ive always known that there were people out there who truely believed in things that didn't necesaraly make sense to me. For the most part, I always thought that psychic readings and astrological predicitions were general statements intended only for entertainment. The part I don't like, as Randy pointed out, is when the line that separates reality is blurred and people fall for it. I don't know if anyone else out there has heard of Criss Angel-Mindfreak, but he is an amazing magician. He doesn't share his secrets however he never leads his audience to believe that he is magical in some way. He emphasizes the sleight of hand and sometimes talks about the same thing Randy talks about - manipulating people's perceptions to see things his way. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "nicole funk" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:05 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I am starting to study for the final and I was going over the study guide and came across number 8. I think it is important to have a skeptical approach to parapsychology so that you are not taken advantage of. It is good to know where science stands on these issues. Being skeptical means that you question accusations rather than buying in to every claim that comes along. A skeptical approach would include questions like: What are the claims exactly?, What is the evidence for them?, Is this evidence credible?, Are there alternative interpretations?. The material in this course is consistent with a skeptical approach to parapsychology. Much of the material has involved analysis and questioning as well as looking at concrete, physical causes for different functions and malfunctions of the brain. It is very important to have this approach to information that comes our way in order to use what we have learned about real evidence and how the mind works to find out what is actually true. Nicole Funk --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Doug Christopherson" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post-Doug Christopherson Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu The power of the mind was very apparent in the show we watched on psychics. The self-fulfilling prophecy which Shawn mentioned (in his post) is all too real. Don't quantum physics and shows like "What the Bleep..." tell us that we are what we think? The clinic I work in at the hospital primarily does research on study medications. Typically, half of our patients will be on the medication being tested and the other half on placebo. In some cases the placebo medication works 30% of the time, that is 30% of the patients put on placebo see an improvement in whatever their particular psychological disorder may be. I can't tell you how much time I've wasted worrying about some future event only to have that negative thought fulfilled because I didn't do anything to prevent it in the present. Just think about how much we could accomplish if we were always thinking positively about the present. People seeking psychological treatment are often too reliant on their medication, and not reliant enough on changing their negative thinking. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "stevebeardshall@juno.com" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:50:09 GMT To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Post #13 Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I have been very interested in the last couple of classes. I don't now that I believe in any of the things that have been presented, I guess you could call me a "skeptic". However I do like how it has been pointed out that being a skeptic is really good. I think that having a guarded opinion in most things is the best way to go. In class we discussed all the pros and cons and I think the pros by far weigh out the cons. I was also impressed by the video and how it show that so many people are taken in by the false claims of others. I was especially surprised by the holy water in russia, i thought that was rediculous. Steve Beardshall --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-605050512-1134538248=:70819 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
It's a rough version but hopefully it will help some of you. Yes I realize it's an easy question, give me a break!

Describe the role hueristics play in decision making. What types of biases are introduced with hueristics?
Hueristics are mental shortcuts we use to cut processing time in everyday decision making. They help us in many ways like simplifying cognitive complexity, speeding decision making and reducing the burden on working memory. This is a very hypothesis driven behavior which often causes cognitive “tunnel vision” because we often do not examine other options in order to stick with those that we know have worked in the past. Once we have formed these heuristics we often defend them by ignoring potentially negative information in order to keep these set of beliefs. To examine the types of biases associated with heuristics we must look at the most prevalent of heuristics. First is the availability heuristic—an example of this is when asked are there more words with ‘k’ at the beginning or third letter of a word most people will respond, the first letter, when there are actually way more with ‘k’ as the third letter. Why we make this mistake is because it is prevalent in our mind, the ease at which we bring a memory up leads us to estimate a higher likelihood of occurring. So the bias is that we tend to overestimate events, especially rare ones. The second heuristic is representativeness heuristic, this is a judgement strategy in which we make estimates on how similar (or representative) an event is to its population. An example of this is Frank who is a meek quiet person who loves to play chess and he majored in philosophy. Is Frank more likely to be a librarian or a businessman? When asked this question most people respond librarian because he is more representative of what a librarian is in their mind. But from a base rate stand point there are way more businessmen than librarians so he would be more likely to be a business man. So the bias for representativeness heuristic is our tendency to overestimate probabilities of thing happening based on our ability to bring those events to mind. Another heuristic is anchoring, the idea that when given a series of information you pay more attention to the info given early or last in the sequence.  An example of this is when you go to sell a car put the good info first, for example Clean, fuel efficient, high mileage slight rust vs. Slight rust, high mileage, fuel efficient, clean. This is tied to a confirmation bias, the idea that we seek and find information that confirms initial hypothesis. A final heuristic is the “as if” heuristic which is when several sources, with different reliabilities are presented we tend to treat them “as if” they had the same level of reliability. An example of this comes from my husband’s job see he works up at the University E.R. and he constantly has patients come in that were on WebMD and they are convinced that they have a tumor, or had a stroke something huge like that but when the doctor gets in to see them they have indigestion or high anxiety. The point being a lot of people view WebMD as being as knowledgable as a doctor right in front of them. This bias is obviously viewing all sources of information as equally important.  



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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:48:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Gallimore
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] RE: study session
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

I talked with some people Thursday after class about a
study session on Tuesday and I wanted to give them the
room number for that and it is 1007 in the BHS
building. You need to go to the tenth floor turn right
off of the elevator and it is the first door on your
right. For those of you interested in joining it is
Tuesday 12/13/2005 at 10:45 am until we pass out and
die from studying ((hahahahaha)) or decide to go home.
Any question then please e-mail me at
godjon@yahoo.com. Thank you!



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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:32:50 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] The Debate
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

It's interesting to see how much discussion this last class period has given
the class. It seems that everybody has a say when relating to psychics and
astrology and the like. There is no definitive answer and people seem to
have a response to that which everyone else has to say. I think it would be
safe to say that these thoughts of the paranormal can be a huge part of
peoples lives. It is just interesting how everybody relates to them in
different ways. On a side note since we were thinking of the paranormal I
realized that it could just be mentioned how other "unexplainable" events
could be seen in a different light now that we have learned so much about
cognition. The Loch Ness monster seems to me easily explained now with how
easily our eyes can fool us.

David Jones



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From: "Drew Bennion"
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:05:49 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] Post For Drew Bennion
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

I found the video with the Amazing Randy probably one of the most
interesting pieces of information Ive thought about this semester. Ive
always known that there were people out there who truely believed in things
that didn't necesaraly make sense to me. For the most part, I always thought
that psychic readings and astrological predicitions were general statements
intended only for entertainment. The part I don't like, as Randy pointed
out, is when the line that separates reality is blurred and people fall for
it. I don't know if anyone else out there has heard of Criss
Angel-Mindfreak, but he is an amazing magician. He doesn't share his secrets
however he never leads his audience to believe that he is magical in some
way. He emphasizes the sleight of hand and sometimes talks about the same
thing Randy talks about - manipulating people's perceptions to see things
his way.

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From: "nicole funk"
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:05 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu


I am starting to study for the final and I was going over the study guide and came across number 8.  I think it is important to have a skeptical approach to parapsychology so that you are not taken advantage of.  It is good to know where science stands on these issues.  Being skeptical means that you question accusations rather than buying in to every claim that comes along.  A skeptical approach would include questions like: What are the claims exactly?, What is the evidence for them?, Is this evidence credible?, Are there alternative interpretations?.  The material in this course is consistent with a skeptical approach to parapsychology.  Much of the material has involved analysis and questioning as well as looking at concrete, physical causes for different functions and malfunctions of the brain.  It is very important to have this
approach to information that comes our way in order to use what we have learned about real evidence and how the mind works to find out what is actually true.   

 

Nicole Funk



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From: "Doug Christopherson"
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:03:18 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post-Doug Christopherson
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

The power of the mind was very apparent in the show we watched on psychics.
The self-fulfilling prophecy which Shawn mentioned (in his post) is all too
real. Don't quantum physics and shows like "What the Bleep..." tell us that
we are what we think? The clinic I work in at the hospital primarily does
research on study medications. Typically, half of our patients will be on
the medication being tested and the other half on placebo. In some cases
the placebo medication works 30% of the time, that is 30% of the patients
put on placebo see an improvement in whatever their particular psychological
disorder may be. I can't tell you how much time I've wasted worrying about
some future event only to have that negative thought fulfilled because I
didn't do anything to prevent it in the present. Just think about how much
we could accomplish if we were always thinking positively about the present.
People seeking psychological treatment are often too reliant on their
medication, and not reliant enough on changing their negative thinking.

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From: "stevebeardshall@juno.com"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:50:09 GMT
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Post #13
Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

I have been very interested in the last couple of classes. I don't now that I believe in any of the things that have been presented, I guess you could call me a "skeptic". However I do like how it has been pointed out that being a skeptic is really good. I think that having a guarded opinion in most things is the best way to go. In class we discussed all the pros and cons and I think the pros by far weigh out the cons. I was also impressed by the video and how it show that so many people are taken in by the false claims of others. I was especially surprised by the holy water in russia, i thought that was rediculous.

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Let me know if you guys are getting together today at 5.  One of m= y=20 classes is having a class party, but I'd rather do a study=20 group.
-------------------------------1134576812-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 19:33:23 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (nicole funk) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:33:23 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] study group Message-ID:
If there is a study group tonight, I would love to attend.  Where are you doing it?  5 o'clock?
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 20:00:21 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:00:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] psychics and heuristics In-Reply-To: <200512140533.WAA14119@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051214200021.11376.qmail@web34004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Psychics seem to be correct some of the time, becasue people end up wanting to believe them and they search for evidence that what they are saying is true. This the the anchoring heuristic, where there is a tendancy to seek evidence that proves the hypothesis. This is why we believe psychics and keep going back to them. I found the palm reader in the movie particularly interesting because he was able to read the opposite of what the palm said, and still convince people that it was true about them. This would be a fun topic to explore in more depth. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 14 22:45:29 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:45:29 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] psychics Message-ID: <8C7CF17378E4342-1B04-1C8A4@mblkn-m11.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7CF1737740990_1B04_13ED1_mblkn-m11.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think that psychics are interesting and I do respect what they do. It's fun to go get your palms read. I went with my best friend to a psychic because I thought it would be fun. During the session she asked me tons of questions so she could answer my questions. I felt that it was a waste of 30 dollars for someone to tell me things about myself that were not even revelant to my life. It was fun anyway, but I would never do it again. I think most of the those psychics just take your money and feed you a bunch a stuff that you want to hear anyway. Katie Homan ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7CF1737740990_1B04_13ED1_mblkn-m11.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I think that psychics are interesting and I do respect what
they do. It's fun to go get your palms read. I went with
 my best friend to a psychic because I thought it would
be fun. During the session she asked me tons of questions so she
could answer my questions. I felt that it was a waste of 30 dollars
for someone to tell me things about myself that were not even
revelant to my life. It was fun anyway, but I would never do
it again. I think most of the those psychics just take your money
and feed you a bunch a stuff that you want to hear anyway. Katie Homan

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HEY GUYS!

  I wanted to make my last post about that I found the posts very helpful through out the semester, yet I don't know for sure if it will show through on my grade...ha ha  Good luck to you all on the final and have a Merry Christmas!

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 01:50:46 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Smalls) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:50:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] robert smalls Message-ID: <20051215015046.8565.qmail@web32001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2003906369-1134611446=:8272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I enjoyed the class as well as everyones posts. Last class was our review; thank you joel for covering the information you did. I also want to mention an appreciation for the study group that was conducted tuesday, it was very helpful. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-2003906369-1134611446=:8272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 I enjoyed the class as well as everyones posts.  Last class was our review; thank you joel for covering the information you did.
 I also want to mention an appreciation for the study group that was conducted tuesday, it was very helpful.


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-2003906369-1134611446=:8272-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 01:55:10 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Doug Christopherson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:55:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post-Doug Christopherson Message-ID: The psych field is responsible for an awful lot of research and sometimes I wonder just how legitimate it is. Taking research methods a couple of semesters ago (stats too) got me thinking about just how much of a role the confirmation bias may play in the results of studies. We, as psychologists, are held to the scientific method standard, which supposedly should rule out any biases. However, when you have hypothesized a certain conclusion, and perhaps the progress of your career depends on this conclusion, I think manipulating some numbers or maybe asking a slightly different question could easily get you the results you are looking for. This may sound like an ethical dilemma, but I think a lot of this manipulation goes on sub-conciously. Scientists are so focused on proving their hypothesis that they do just that. Psychology isn't a hard science and because it's impossible to prove cause and effect, it makes it much more difficult to determine whether or not results from a study are significant. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 03:01:12 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jonathan Gallimore) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:01:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] re: question #7 Message-ID: <20051215030112.29740.qmail@web34609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> here is my crack question #7: The assumptions that the parallel distributed processing model makes is that there are simple, neural processing units that are highly interconnected. The parallel distributed processing model of cognition means that there many neural units that are spread out in a network and they work together to compute a thought or idea. The parallel distributed processing model is inspired by neural connections and biological models. Parallel distributed processing also makes the assumption that memories then are represented in the connections between the neural processing units. The parallel distributed processing model accounts for instance formation in that the neurons that fire consistently to form an idea strengthen each time that they fire. Unique features of things in categories tend to characterize instance formation. With prototype formation the parallel distributed processing would say that all of the neural networks of specific categories of things work as signal averagers. Common features of the whole neural network form a prototype canceling out unique features. The parallel distributed processing model accounts for semantic priming because of the interconnectedness of similar neural networks. The activation of one network facilities the activation of related networks and because of the similar state that the networks have settled in for the prime and the probe the chances of recalling the probe increases. ---Jonathan Gallimore “You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” –Abraham Lincoln __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 04:28:51 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lauren Pardey) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:28:51 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Last Post- Study Guide Questions 1-6 Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C600F5.60BFFC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Study Guide 1. Describe the role schemata play in information processing. How do schemata bias information processing? What implications does the research on schemata have for the legal system? A schema is a mental set or representation. They can make information processing faster and more efficient by making us able to apply what we already know to new and unknown situations; we have a telephone schema that allows us to effectively operate telephones we have never seen, even if they are different from any telephone we have ever seen. However, schemas also become prejudices, and can effect memory, because people can actually "see" or remember things differently from the way they happened if their interpretation fits better into their schema. For instance, if a well-dressed person pulls a weapon on a homeless person, a witness may "remember" the homeless person pulling the weapon. 2. Describe the primary symptoms of anterograde amnesia. Present evidence that people with anterograde amnesia (like H.M. or Clive Wearing) retain some residual memory ability. What important things does this tell us about the structure of human long-term memory? Anterograde Amnesia is when new events are not encoded into long term memory. People with this condition have short term memory and procedural memory, (HOW to do things) but they cannot form new memories of events, or episodic memories. HM and Clive Wearing, however, both demonstrated an ability to create new procedural memory: Mr.. Wearing was able to learn the locations of things in his new home, and seemed after a while to understand his condition. 3. Briefly describe the components of Anderson's ACT architecture. How does Anderson's model differ from that of Atkinson & Shiffrin's standard theory of information processing? Anderson's ACT architecture basically says that procedural memories are composed of strings of "if-then" statements, known as production rules, such as: "If you have a final on Thursday, then you should study." It also says that declarative memories or facts are organized into "chunks." It says that cognitive tasks are performed by setting goals, then taking these memories (chunks and procedures) putting them into working memory. Atkinson and Shiffirn's standard theory of information processing simply says that information is taken into sensory memory, where the important stuff is moved to be manipulated and used in working memory, then either stored in long-term memory, or lost. Information is also retrieved from long term memory to be used and manipulated in working memory. 4. Compare and contrast the theories of automaticity and skill acquisition developed by John Anderson and Gordon Logan. What are the assumptions of each theory? What are the strengths and weaknesses of each theory? Anderson's theory suggests that procedural memory is organized into "if then" statements, such as "if you have a test on Thursday, then you should study"- Automaticity occurs over time, as these procedural memories are used again and again, because the "if-then" statements are composed into procedures, which form one memory, for instance, rather than, "if A then B, if B then C, if C then D," You would remember "If A, then BCD." This theory is a great description of how automaticity may happen, but it does not describe any of the processes involved. Logan's theory states that skills can be done step by step, or by recalling all the steps from memory. People use the step by step method when doing something unfamiliar, but with each use, the steps are recorded into a single memory. Then, the skill can be performed either using the step by step or memory method, depending on which is faster. This theory assumes that encoding and retrieval are obligatory, and that memory is unlimited. 5. Describe the role heuristics play in decision making. What types of biases are introduced with heuristics? Heuristics are "rules of thumb" people use to make decisions and arrive at conclusions. For instance, the "Anchoring and Adjustment" heuristic is a rule that allows us to estimate numerical values. We begin with the anchor, which is a known value, and adjust it based on our existing knowledge: if the price of a tomato not on the vine is 25 cents, we would then adjust that price to reflect the added value, to come up with a reasonable price for the tomato on the vine, such as 35 cents. Heuristics do lead to cognitive biases, however. For example, the Availability heuristic is simply a rule that something is more common the more examples of it we can bring to mind. However, if it is difficult to bring to mind examples of it, we are likely to estimate low. For instance, if we are asked whether the letter r is more common as the first letter in a word than the third letter, we are likely to say it is more common as the first, because it is easier to think of examples of words that start with R than have it as the third letter. However, we'd be wrong. 6. Describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills. Provide an example of how might you use these strategies in everyday life? 1. Develop sub-goals 2. Work Backwards 3. Represent the problem graphically 4. Define boundary conditions Good Luck on the test, everyone! ~ Lauren ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C600F5.60BFFC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Study Guide
 
1. Describe the role schemata play in = information=20 processing. How do schemata bias information processing? What = implications does=20 the research on schemata have for the legal system?
 
A schema is a mental set or = representation. They=20 can make information processing faster and more efficient by making us = able to=20 apply what we already know to new and unknown situations; we have a = telephone=20 schema that allows us to effectively operate telephones we have never = seen, even=20 if they are different from any telephone we have ever seen.
However, = schemas=20 also become prejudices, and can effect memory, because people can = actually "see"=20 or remember things differently from the way they happened if their=20 interpretation fits better into their schema. For instance, if a = well-dressed=20 person pulls a weapon on a homeless person, a witness may "remember" the = homeless person pulling the weapon.
 

2. Describe the primary symptoms of = anterograde=20 amnesia.  Present evidence that people with anterograde amnesia = (like H.M.=20 or Clive Wearing) retain some residual memory ability.  What = important=20 things does this tell us about the structure of human long-term=20 memory?
 
Anterograde Amnesia is when new events = are not=20 encoded into long term memory.  People with this condition have = short term=20 memory and procedural memory, (HOW to do things) but they cannot form = new=20 memories of events, or episodic memories. HM and Clive Wearing, however, = both=20 demonstrated an ability to create new procedural memory: Mr.. Wearing = was able=20 to learn the locations of things in his new home, and seemed after a = while to=20 understand his condition.
 

3. Briefly describe the components = of=20 Anderson's ACT architecture. How does Anderson's model differ from that = of=20 Atkinson & Shiffrin's standard theory of information=20 processing?
 
Anderson's ACT architecture basically = says that=20 procedural memories are composed of strings of "if-then" statements, = known as=20 production rules, such as: "If you have a final on Thursday, then you = should=20 study." It also says that declarative memories or facts are organized = into=20 "chunks." It says that cognitive tasks are performed by setting goals, = then=20 taking these memories (chunks and procedures) putting them into working=20 memory.
Atkinson and Shiffirn's standard theory of information = processing=20 simply says that information is taken into sensory memory, where the = important=20 stuff is moved to be manipulated and used in working memory, then either = stored=20 in long-term memory, or lost. Information is also retrieved from long = term=20 memory to be used and manipulated in working memory.
 

4. Compare and contrast the = theories of=20 automaticity and skill acquisition developed by John Anderson and Gordon = Logan.=20 What are the assumptions of each theory? What are the strengths and = weaknesses=20 of each theory?
 
Anderson's theory suggests that = procedural memory=20 is organized into "if then" statements, such as "if you have a test on = Thursday,=20 then you should study"- Automaticity occurs over time, as these = procedural=20 memories are used again and again, because the "if-then" statements are = composed=20 into procedures, which form one memory, for instance, rather than, "if A = then B,=20 if B then C, if C then D," You would remember "If A, then BCD."
This = theory=20 is a great description of how automaticity may happen, but it does not = describe=20 any of the processes involved.
Logan's theory states that skills can = be done=20 step by step, or by recalling all the steps from memory. People use the = step by=20 step method when doing something unfamiliar, but with each use, the = steps are=20 recorded into a single memory. Then, the skill can be performed either = using the=20 step by step or memory method, depending on which is faster. This theory = assumes=20 that encoding and retrieval are obligatory, and that memory is=20 unlimited.
 
 
 
5. Describe the role heuristics play in = decision=20 making. What types of biases are introduced with = heuristics?
 
Heuristics are "rules of thumb" people = use to make=20 decisions and arrive at conclusions. For instance, the "Anchoring and=20 Adjustment" heuristic is a rule that allows us to estimate numerical = values. We=20 begin with the anchor, which is a known value, and adjust it based on = our=20 existing knowledge: if the price of a tomato not on the vine is 25 = cents, we=20 would then adjust that price to reflect the added value, to come up with = a=20 reasonable price for the tomato on the vine, such as 35 = cents.
Heuristics do=20 lead to cognitive biases, however. For example, the Availability = heuristic is=20 simply a rule that something is more common the more examples of it we = can bring=20 to mind. However, if it is difficult to bring to mind examples of it, we = are=20 likely to estimate low. For instance, if we are asked whether the letter = r is=20 more common as the first letter in a word than the third letter, we are = likely=20 to say it is more common as the first, because it is easier to think of = examples=20 of words that start with R than have it as the third letter. However, = we'd be=20 wrong.
 

6. Describe four ways to improve = your problem=20 solving skills.  Provide an example of how might you use these = strategies=20 in everyday life?
 
 1. Develop sub-goals
 2. = Work=20 Backwards
 3. Represent the problem graphically
 4. = Define=20 boundary conditions
 
Good = Luck on the=20 test, everyone!
 
~=20 Lauren
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I'm having a hard time answering question #3. I can answer the first parts about what each model is. My problem is answering the differences. The only thing I can thing me my study parter and I can come up with is that Anderson is more procedural based and Atkinson and Shriffrin is more memory based alot like Logan. If anyone can help out that would be great. Thanks and good luck on the final.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 07:27:38 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (nicole funk) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:27:38 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post, #14 Message-ID:
I can't believe the semester is over!  I want to thank everyone for their posts and comments in class and especially thank Professor Strayer and Joel for a great class and for all their help.  I have really enjoyed it.  Good luck to everyone on the exam and Happy Holidays! 
 
6.  Describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills.  Provide an example of how you might use these strategies in everyday life. 
 
- Follow a systematic plan.  Following a plan is very helpful in solving problems.  One situation where this may be useful is in buildiing something.  This is very difficult to do if you do not follow a plan. 
 
- Work backwards.  This is also a very helpful pointer in problem solving.  Looking at a problem backwards can make solutions clear much faster than working forwards in some situations.  Like with the building example, lets say you are building a doll house for your daughter.  You have the instructions (systematic plan) but you are stuck on some part that isn't fitting like the instructions say.  You look at the picture of the finished product and look at the pieces.   Then you try to place the pieces where they look like they go from the picture and add the smaller pieces as you work backwards from the image of the finished product. 
 
- Search for relations among problems.  Rather than solving problems separately, look for similarities.  This can speed up the process greatly, especially if you have a similar problem that you have already solved that can be related to the present problem. 
 
- Represent problems graphically.  It always helps to visualize things in order to find solutions.  If you can represent the problem on a graph it not only allows you to visualize it but also simplifies the problem.  This is very helpful for statistics and mathematical problems.
 
Nicole Funk 
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 14:47:25 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:47:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] last post Message-ID: <20051215144725.85420.qmail@web52407.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1191847777-1134658045=:85109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, it has been a good semester and the message board has proved to be really useful. Thanks to all who provided their take on topics discussed in class and study guide questions, it was very helpful. This message board sort of acted like an online study group. To answer someone's question from the messageboard yesterday :ACT Model is different than Atkinson & Shiffrin simply because it introduces two new types of memory stores; Declarative and Production. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1191847777-1134658045=:85109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Well, it has been a good semester and the message board has proved to be really useful. Thanks to all who provided their take on topics discussed in class and study guide questions, it was very helpful. This message board sort of acted like an online study group.
To answer someone's question from the messageboard yesterday :ACT Model is different than Atkinson & Shiffrin simply because it introduces two new types of memory stores; Declarative and Production.


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1191847777-1134658045=:85109-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 18:49:30 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Smalls) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] robert smalls Message-ID: <20051215184930.19727.qmail@web32009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1416180361-1134672570=:17600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can we write on the study review class? I'm behind so I'm going to and maybe since its christmas I'll get credit. It was my first study review I have been able to make this year, and it made a very big difference. I wish we would have spent some more time on the PDP question; luckly I spent seven hours with John on tuesday and got a better feel for what it ment. Maybe in the future the study review could be more structured, I think we waste a little valuable time asking and debating which questions we should cover. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1416180361-1134672570=:17600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 Can we write on the study review class? I'm behind so I'm going to and maybe since its christmas I'll get credit.
 
 It was my first study review I have been able to make this year, and it made a very big difference.  I wish we would have spent some more time on the PDP question; luckly I spent seven hours with John on tuesday and got a better feel for what it ment.
 Maybe in the future the study review could be more structured, I think we waste a little valuable time asking and debating which questions we should cover.


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1416180361-1134672570=:17600-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 18:51:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Smalls) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] robert smalls12 Message-ID: <20051215185144.65246.qmail@web32005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1951220982-1134672704=:63939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Its all over, pending that I passed the last test I am now college edumacated. I liked the t or false questions. Two of them I found a little difficult. I didn't understand the "memory aids do not improve your memory" question. Your born with a memory; it doesn't get any larger, right? But we are able to improve memory through memory aids because it helps us with recall...? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1951220982-1134672704=:63939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 Its all over, pending that I passed the last test I am now college edumacated.  I liked the t or false questions.  Two of them I found a little difficult.  I didn't understand the "memory aids do not improve your memory" question.  Your born with a memory; it doesn't get any larger, right? But we are able to improve memory through memory aids because it helps us with recall...?


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-1951220982-1134672704=:63939-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 15 18:56:56 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Smalls) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:56:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] robert smalls 13 Message-ID: <20051215185656.23398.qmail@web32007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-778106691-1134673016=:23396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert L. Smalls Psychology 3120 Modes Seven Sins of Memory A couple of semesters ago I took a course in Psychology and Law. We covered eyewitness testimony fairly extensively. I was so surprised when learning how many false positives were produced when victims identified alleged assailants. Corresponding to course lecture we talked about the individuals inability to accurately retell or recall the video of the accident they had watched. Even with my past knowledge I was dumbfounded on how inaccurate or how easily the story could be manipulated just be adding words like “crash” into the sentence. I enjoyed learning about the seven sins that contribute to the failure of memory; and look forward to reading the book. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-778106691-1134673016=:23396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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Psychology 3120 Modes
 
Seven Sins of Memory
 
            A couple of semesters ago I took a course in Psychology and Law.  We covered eyewitness testimony fairly extensively.  I was so surprised when learning how many false positives were produced when victims identified alleged assailants. 
            Corresponding to course lecture we talked about the individuals inability to accurately retell or recall the video of the accident they had watched.  Even with my past knowledge I was dumbfounded on how inaccurate or how easily the story could be manipulated just be adding words like “crash” into the sentence.
            I enjoyed learning about the seven sins that contribute to the failure of memory; and look forward to reading the book.
 


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Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --0-778106691-1134673016=:23396-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 16 17:30:32 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:30:32 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6022B.BE893470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks to all that put answers and thought-provoking questions. The = test was a good one in my opinion. Hopefully, everyone felt the same = about it. Enjoy the break. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6022B.BE893470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks to all that put answers and thought-provoking = questions.  The=20 test was a good one in my opinion.  Hopefully, everyone felt the = same about=20 it.  Enjoy the break.
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C6022B.BE893470-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 19 03:49:34 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Liljenquist) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:49:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Well all I will say is I'm glad it's over. I hope that all of you felt comfortable with the test! I want to thank Dr. Strayer for a thought-provoking semester, and also thank Joel for all of his help. Have a great holiday break and good luck to everyone! Emily Liljenquist From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 00:16:04 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Doug Christopherson) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:16:04 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post- Doug Christopherson Message-ID: What is it about thinking technically during a task (golf swing) that causes us to execute the taks with less precision. The golf swing is a perfect example of this. When I golf I like to warm-up before I play by hitting a few balls. After I'm warm, however, I stop immediately because I don't want to waste the mental energy on the practice range that I could be using on the course. I suppose this is an example of how an implicit memory task can become more complicated when we try to think about it explicitly. I seem to play my best golf when I am relaxed and don't care about my score. The moment (literally) I start thinking about where my swing plane is, or if my grip is too strong, or whatever else, my swing plane becomes off, my grip becomes too strong, etc. Instances like these remind me of "What the Bleep Do We Know", and just how much we become what we think. The more I question the way I golf, the less able I am to perform. Maybe that's why Happy Gilmore's swing was so effective (ha). I know, I know, Happy was great because of Chubs. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 00:15:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Jones) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Supernatural "psychology"- David Jones Message-ID: I along with many of the others in class would definiatly say that class this week was quite entertaining. Conspiracy theoreys/ists always crack me up. It totally blew me away when I moved away from wyoming and met several people that truly didn't believe that we had landed on the moon. "It was all the government" The thought had never occured to me. I would venture tho guess that people often convince themselves that they have seen things in the sky or one of the other "sightings" that they have just convinced themselves that they saw it and as we all now know that our vision can be decieving that is where alot of reports come from. DAvid Jones From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 04:17:14 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Liljenquist) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 21:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology Message-ID: I seriously had so much fun in class on Thursday. It was very interesting to learn more about parapsychology. I was talking to a friend after class about what we had discussed, and he goes "let me guess...you talked about it very sarcastically." That's exactly right. It is kind of funny to think about how many people actually believe in telepathy, etc., and to be completely honest I have been a victim of being swayed by several aspects of parapsychology. Not only was it very entertaining and comical to go into great detail about aliens and subliminal messages, but I also learned a great deal. It was interesting to relate several things to what we have already learned in this class. For example, the face on Mars. Our brains are especially sensitive to human faces, so many people saw this photo and automatically saw a human face. Too much fun. Well anyway, let me know if anyone is putting together a study group or something for the final. Thanks! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 00:19:48 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ashley Sproul) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post (Ashley Sproul) Message-ID: Thursday's lecture on parapsychology was very interesting. I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to fortune telling, people claiming to have been abducted by aliens, and subliminal messages. Like Dr. Strayer said in the lecture, I think that I would need pretty solid evidence in order to believe something like that. I have a subscription to Elle magazine, and I usually read the horoscope/numerolgy page just to see what they say will happen to me that month. It is interesting, because a lot of the time they are pretty close. However, their statements are very general, so I think that they could be somewhat accurate for anyone. I think that most predictions in any kind of fortune telling work that way. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 00:24:01 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jessica Berry) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 17:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] PDP models: have mercy on my soul In-Reply-To: <200511301901.MAA18738@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Some info about PDP models. It may help to first define what a PDP model is. It is a model using a distributed representation with nodes and links. The model learns as weights are modified. Parallel distributed processing goes by three names: Neural networks (computerized model which has similar neuron structures as biological networks); connectionist modeling (this is like computer science where those constructing the models are interested in the computer behaving intelligently, with not much interest in biology); and parallel distributed processing (a psychological model that emphasizes the qualities of parallel and distributed processing). The PDP models are assuming the construction of semantic network models, indicating that these models are correct, where concepts are activated, which then activate surrounding connecting nodes through links. (is this right?) Prototypes are the natural byproduct of laying down memories into some neural network space where the things that vary among the memories cancel out. For example, if you see many dogs, like chihuahuas, min pins, golden retrievers etc., and lay down the information into the same neural network space and the specific features are canceled out. The only qualities that are then left are generic ones, like eyes, nose, ears, tail and approx. size. This becomes a prototype. Prototype formation stores instances of action into the same neural network space. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 08:24:49 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (nicole funk) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:24:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Weekly Post Message-ID:
I was not able to attend lecture last thursday and I just went over the lecture notes for dec. 1.  I have always been a skeptic when it comes to telepathy, alien encounters, and the like.  I found all of the information on this very interesting, but the thing that I thought was so fascinating about all of the topics was the advertising section.  Subliminal advertising, I have not been as skeptical about.  It is comforting to me to know that there are no significant findings that it is effective.  Partly due to the fact that subliminal content is typically rather questionable.  The main reason that it is a relief, however, is because I hate to think that something could influence my behavior that I am entirely unaware of consciously.  It is interesting that so much money has been put into something that has no substantial evidence of success. 
Happy last week of class everyone!
Nicole Funk
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 18:28:42 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kevin davis) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 11:28:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: postmaster@mail.hotmail.com >To: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com >Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) >Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 23:00:57 -0800 > >This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > >Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable >to connect successfully to the destination mail server. > > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > > ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: message/delivery-status; name="attach3"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attach3"; UmVwb3J0aW5nLU1UQTogZG5zO2hvdG1haWwuY29tDQpSZWNlaXZlZC1Gcm9t LU1UQTogZG5zO21haWwuaG90bWFpbC5jb20NCkFycml2YWwtRGF0ZTogVGh1 LCAxIERlYyAyMDA1IDIxOjEwOjU3IC0wODAwDQoNCkZpbmFsLVJlY2lwaWVu dDogcmZjODIyO3BzeWNoMzEyMEBsaXN0cy5jc2JzLnV0YWguZWR1DQpBY3Rp b246IGZhaWxlZA0KU3RhdHVzOiA0LjQuNw0K ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:10:57 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.70.226.35] X-Originating-Email: [kevindeedavis@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com From: "kevin davis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Bcc: Subject: Do ya'll believe? Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:10:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[C754D9C0:01C5F6FE] Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:10:57 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.70.226.35] X-Originating-Email: [kevindeedavis@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kevindeedavis@hotmail.com From: "kevin davis" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Bcc: Subject: Do ya'll believe? Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:10:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2005 05:10:57.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[C754D9C0:01C5F6FE] Today's class was a hoot! I had alot of fun listening to all those songs played backwards. I thought the backwards version of "Stairway to Heaven" was the most intriguing, however I don't believe for a second that anyone of those bands were really trying to send subliminal messages (I don't think they were smart enough). Today at work I started a conversation with my coworkers about the existence of aliens. They were pretty divided on whether or not they believed. I thought it might be kinda fun to hear what everyone on the bulletin thought. I personally am pretty confident that with all the billions and billions of planets and solar systems in space there has to be some sort of life similiar to our's out there. However, I'm not convinced that aliens have actually visited us from distant galaxys. There's just no real proof that I am aware of. What do you guys think? -Kevin Dee ------=_NextPart_000_3a98_6fa6_22c1-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 18:35:03 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spencer Banks) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:35:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly post Message-ID: I have to say that I loved yesterday's lecture. All of those backwards messages were really funny. But what Dr. Strayer said about skepticism was really good. For me, when I hear something outrageous that I don't believe, that was that. I didn't believe it and never really questioned it. Now after learning about the questions we should ask ourselves and learning the criteria for good evidence, I have something substantiative regarding why I don't believe something. I also like what Hale said-Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Spencer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 05:28:06 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:28:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Review for Final Message-ID: <20051203222806.c6xy32do2s08coc0@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> Hi everyone, Several people have asked when the review for the final will be held. As mentioned in class, Joel will hold the review during the last regularly scheduled class (Thursday 12/8). Best way to use the time is to look over the study guide questions and ask about what you unsure. Also, if you are working on extra credit (either by participating in experiments or by writing a paper), make sure that you have completed this before the day of the final. --Dave Strayer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 20:47:13 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Parke) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 13:47:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] problem solving Message-ID: All this talk about the GRE is starting to stress me out, as if worrying about finals isnt bad enough. I guess that is school for you, just a series of hoops to jump through...its not nessasarily the smartest ones that make it through rather the persistent ones. But if it comes down to the GRE making or breaking me as far as grad school goes, it just might break me. I know that problem solving is not my thing. As we talked about in class, I am the type of person that has a had time figuring anything out without someone explaining it to me a hundred times, or having seen it done. Even with music...I am retarded when it comes to sight reading, but after hearing it once it all makes sense and I can usually repeat it easily after that. I think my brain must be wired abit differently! Keith Parke _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 08:55:39 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Rachel B) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:55:39 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: I just wanted to make a few comments about class last Thursday. I was very intrigued that so many people actually believe astrology. I read my horoscope periodically and have found sometimes it is correct and sometimes it isn't . I have also found that many of the horoscopes are so general, they could apply to anyone's life. Going along with the unusual things people believe in, I find superstitions very interesting. Sometimes I will find myself thinking that I have to do things in a certain way because that is the way I have done them previously and that way was effective, so I must repeat in the same manner to get the same results. -Rachel Braun Johnson From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 23:15:45 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Burrup) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:15:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] POST #10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID:
HI-
  I wanted to post today about how entertaining I found last thursday to be.  I have always wondered about Satan's musical influence...now I know why I have been "naughty" things.  It's because Led Zeppelin has brainwashed me into doing horrible things like only using one napkin when eating ribs, or counting money backwards.  Actually, I respect anyone's beliefs...yet Dave was right in telling us that evidence is very important to be able to believe something so extraordinary.  HAve a good day!
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 05:26:47 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Abby Wright) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:26:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Posting #13 Message-ID: I thought that Thursday’s lecture was one of the best lectures of the semester! I especially enjoyed hearing the “hidden messages” in backwards music. This is a great example of how our mind can “create” what we hear because after listening to the backwards music I couldn’t make heads or tails of what was being said. Only after having read what was allegedly said did I “hear” the lyrics (except for the Pink Floyd song where the backwards message was intentionally put in there). I was also shocked at how many sexual references were slipped into Disney films on purpose. After having watched those movies a thousand times I would never have guessed that someone would intentionally put that kind of stuff in those movies! It makes me wonder what other stuff has intentionally be subliminally inserted into other movies, even if we don’t subconsciously process it. That reminds me of a side story. When the BTK killer was caught a few months ago, I remember watching a Dateline special in which the police department actually slipped a subliminal message into the newscast where BTK had addressed his letters. In it the police urged him to surrender. Not surprisingly it didn’t work! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 21:15:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Review Message-ID: <20051204141553.ehr473zz4ksww8s4@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> Hi everyone, Several people have asked when the review for the final will be held. As mentioned in class, Joel will hold the review during the last regularly scheduled class (Thursday 12/8). Best way to use the time is to look over the study guide questions and ask about what you unsure. Also, if you are working on extra credit (either by participating in experiments or by writing a paper), make sure that you have completed this before the day of the final. --Dave Strayer From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 23:52:02 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Callister) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <20051203235202.71366.qmail@web32908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-349451344-1133653922=:70483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought it was interesting to talk about parapsychology and its components last class. I personally am not a believer, or at the least, I am very skeptical, however I do think that there are weird things that happen. I don't believe aliens (as most people consider them) have visited earth, but I most certainly have seen very odd flying objects down in South America. It's interesting to hear people's explanations though when someone sees something unexlainable. I've even heard that the government confirms outrageous claims like seeing U.F.O.'s or sets up certain evidence in order to send people on a witch hunt, while protecting what is trully going on. There is one thing that I do believe in though, and that is precognition, in certain forms. I don't think that it's a gift that somebody constantly has, but at times people have dreams, or just know things will happen before they do, myself included. When this happens, I am interested to know how scientists explain it. Especially those scientists who don't believe in any type of supreme being from which any sort of revelation may come from. Parapsychology really seems to hook in a lot of people, because they trully believe in it. I would suggest that this may simply show the power of the mind. I don't mean to offend anyone who may believe in this stuff. I myself have some pretty out their beliefs sometimes too. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals --0-349451344-1133653922=:70483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I thought it was interesting to talk about parapsychology and its components last class.  I personally am not a believer, or at the least, I am very skeptical, however I do think that there are weird things that happen.  I don't believe aliens (as most people consider them) have visited earth, but I most certainly have seen very odd flying objects down in South America.  It's interesting to hear people's explanations though when someone sees something unexlainable.  I've even heard that the government confirms outrageous claims like seeing U.F.O.'s or sets up certain evidence in order to send people on a witch hunt, while protecting what is trully going on.  There is one thing that I do believe in though, and that is precognition, in certain forms.  I don't think that it's a gift that somebody constantly has, but at times people have dreams, or just know things will happen before they do, myself included.  When this happens, I am interested to know how scientists explain it.  Especially those scientists who don't believe in any type of supreme being from which any sort of revelation may come from.  Parapsychology really seems to hook in a lot of people, because they trully believe in it.  I would suggest that this may simply show the power of the mind.  I don't mean to offend anyone who may believe in this stuff.  I myself have some pretty out their beliefs sometimes too.


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I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school.  It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken.  The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people?   Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE.  I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject.  I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school.  I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam.  My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap.  I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.”  Ahhh capitalism!


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I found thursday's class to be very entertaining.  It's amazing to me to think that some people actually believe these parapsychology things to be real and valid.  It would be interesting to read the book, I think it was called "Why people believe weird things" or something like that.  For me, even though I have been introduced to some of it, I never really believed in it.  I guess I've always been a skeptic.  I read some articals from the online reading. One was about a skeptic that called a radio show to talk to a psychic.  He wanted to call her on some predictions she made in a previous year that never came true.  When he asked about the predictions, the psychic totally avoided the question and changed the subject.  It that isn't obvious to her not being able to predict the future I don't know what is.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 22:42:50 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:42:50 EST Subject: [Psych3120] post #14 Message-ID: <20d.eea415d.30c4caea@aol.com> -------------------------------1133736170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In class on Thursday it was neat talking about all the different things humans believe. I personally have never been the type of person to really fall for that stuff. I believe that there might be cover ups and things, but it might not be for what people think it is. The demonstration that intrigued me the most was the backwards music. That was one I always believed. I thought certain songs had hidden meanings. It's interesting to see that those backwards lyrics have no effect. I thought maybe even listening to them the right way might somehow still give you the backwards message. To me though it does seem odd that most the backwards messages have to do with Satan and drugs or other negative concepts. But, I know a lot of it is based off of perception and what one expects to hear or see. Overall, I felt like this was a fun class to attend and it's cool to spend time talking about these types of things. Also, I have a question. I missed class on Tuesday. Is there anyone who could maybe let me know the key points of the lecture that I might need to know that isn't on the slides. That would be awesome. Have a great weekend!! -------------------------------1133736170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In class on Thursday it was neat talking about all the differ= ent=20 things humans believe.  I personally have never been the type of person= to=20 really fall for that stuff.  I believe that there might be cover ups an= d=20 things, but it might not be for what people think it is.  The demonstra= tion=20 that intrigued me the most was the backwards music.  That was one I alw= ays=20 believed.  I thought certain songs had hidden meanings.  It's=20 interesting to see that those backwards lyrics have no effect.  I thought maybe even listening t= o them=20 the right way might somehow still give you the backwards message.  To m= e=20 though it does seem odd that most the backwards messages have to do with Sat= an=20 and drugs or other negative concepts.  But, I know a lot of it is based= off=20 of perception and what one expects to hear or see.  Overall, I felt lik= e=20 this was a fun class to attend and it's cool to spend time talking about the= se=20 types of things.  Also, I have a question.  I missed class on=20 Tuesday.  Is there anyone who could maybe let me know the key points of= the=20 lecture that I might need to know that isn't on the slides.  That would= be=20 awesome.  Have a great weekend!!
-------------------------------1133736170-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 3 21:58:57 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:58:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] GRE Message-ID: <20051203215857.82270.qmail@web52415.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school. It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken. The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people? Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE. I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject. I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school. I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam. My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap. I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.” Ahhh capitalism! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Let fate take it's course directly to your email. See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would like to speak for a moment on the lack of significance the GRE scores have on our success in graduate school.  It’s too bad that with the information we have today a more appropriate measure is not taken.  The GRE could still be serving the purpose of weeding out people but who are those people?   Is it people who don’t tend to think “outside of the box” or is it people without the time or money to take the GRE.  I am sure there has been a lot of debate on this subject.  I can see how people may feel discriminated against seeing as how this form of testing has no bearing on one’s performance or success in grad school.  I am interested in grad school and until someone in the system sparks some change I guess I will have to take this incredibly stressful exam.  My theory: college, much like most things in America, is simply big business, the GRE is a means of saying “look here, I actually got through this crap.  I spent a lot of money, stressed myself out beyond belief and passed this completely irrelevant test so that I may spend a lot more money on a few more years of school in order to get a descent paying job one day.”  Ahhh capitalism!


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See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals --0-1657192813-1133647137=:81432-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 4 23:27:41 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jonathan Gallimore) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:27:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] RE: parapsychology Message-ID: <20051204232741.40173.qmail@web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For me, I love the occult and the paranormal. But as I get older I realize that they are merely for fun and not a lot of weight should be put on the predictions are made by astrologers, fortune tellers, and psychics. One time I compared three different horoscopes over a given month to see which was more accurate and guess what... They all were only accurate 33% of the time which is rather low. The statements made by astrology are general. For the most part psychics and fortune tellers read people not cards or the stars telling people what they want to hear. But like I said horoscopes are fun for me, but should I plan my life around them? No way. I remember being told, in my personality theories class, about an experiment with horoscopes. The professor told everyone that he would do the class's atrology charts and tell them about who they are. So he took all of their information and next week brought them all in a "personality" profile. Each student read their profile and then rated it on how accurately it described them. I do not remember the exact scores but the majority of the class said that the horoscope was accurate. Guess what though. The professor had given everyone the same personality profile. I think that goes to show that the statements are broad and people will find a way to make what is said apply and fit to them. People will believe anything especially within a time of crisis or indecision which is the time that people will most likely seek out a fortune teller. But the best tool that I have seen used for such times of trouble are critical thinking, logic, and experience. The future will always be a mystery, and there is no way to predict it. But with common sense, a keen eye, and critical thoughts you can get a good sense of what is likely to happen. Although anything that can happen will happen and so as humans we have to live with the uncertainity of the future. ---jonathan gallimore __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 00:26:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:26:44 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] post (Eric Ashton) Message-ID: <1133742404.4393894467f7d@webmail.utah.edu> In class we had the lecture about para psychology. Of coarse, it was interesting and entertaining. Something that was metioned was the idea that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and "the burden of proof is on the positive." These ideas are clearly useful and neccessary particularily in the scientific realm so that bogus claims are not accepted as fact. However, a lack of extraordinary evidence does not rule out the possibility that the extraordinary claim occured. For example if i were to stand 90 feet from a basketball hoop, with my back turned to the hoop and chuck the basketball uder my legs and make the shot this would be and extraordinary claim. Perhaps no one else was there and i was the only witness that saw my highly unlikely shot. I then tell my friends and my family but they want extraordinary evidence. I don't have any. I try the shot again, this time with witnesses, and i never come within 15 feet. No evidence, but i made that shot. Now lets say i see a ghost (not that i have, because i have not nor do i believe the people that say they have but let's just say i see a ghost). No one else was there when the ghost came. I tell my friends and family and no one believes me. They want evidence, I have none. No extra-ordinary evidence, but i saw that ghost(hypothetically). From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 00:37:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ashley williams) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:

Our last class was really entertaining. I looked up the notes on the class web page before I came to class and knew it would be fun. I've always been kinda skeptical about all that stuff so it's really interesting to see what other people are posting about it. In class, I really enjoyed the subliminal messages in the backwards songs. It made me wonder how many artists put these types of messages in their songs purposefully. Also the talk on aliens and stuff made me think about how many people really believe in this stuff. I looked up UFO sightings online just out of curiosity and was amazed at how many people believe they have seen one. Kinda crazy... 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 01:42:30 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (K B) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:42:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] modes-parapsychology Message-ID: thursdays lecture was VERY entertaining! i dont believe in parapsychology but it's still an interesting subject. I was watching a special on tv last week on people who have spirits or something in their homes. It sounds so absurd. I swear these people are delusional. I learned a very important concept from the lecture. You see what you want to see. You could sit for hours staring at the clouds and come up with all sorts of figures in the shapes of the clouds. Its baffling that some people seem to do this for a living. The music part in the beginning was especially intriguing. i always heard people talk about these "hidden" messages if you played certain songs backwards, but i never witnessed anything like it my self. It was humorous actually. People are strangely curious. If anyone is interested, i would like to do a study group outside of class as well to be more prepared for the exam. We could get together at the library or something. kara From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 02:08:22 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kendrick) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:08:22 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] the GRE Message-ID: <33375ed40512041808l2f7d3243k1f730ea51aa0d4fd@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline they simply cannot accept all GRE scores. there has to be a cut off somewhere. It simply isn't fair that someone who coasts through school getting B's and C's and the occasional D and be allowed to continue on in grad school where there are more qualified persons with higher GPAs. The thing is, there must be something that can distinguish a good student from = a bad one, and currently, until they get a better system, GPA and the GRE is it. There are other factors that decide admission to grad school. My professor in Personality Theory, Dr. Rhodewalt shared quite a bit about this just las= t week. He encouraged students to discover what area of focus they wanted t= o pursue as professionals and seek a connection with a professor who is in that field of expertise and accepting grad students. He said this is probably the single most important ingredient in getting into grad school. So, if the cut off for GRE is 48. And its not a very good predictor of success in grad school --- who cares. What you can probably bet on is that below 48 would more than likely mean disaster. This is all easy for me to say since I have neither been accepted to grad school, nor have I taken the GRE, but I guess what I mean is, there isn't really a problem with having a cut off score. There just isn't time or money to review all students who apply. If all who took the GRE were considered for grad school, what would be the determining factor for grad school? An interview? An essay? The cost of grad school is already outrageous, but this line of reasoning would most certainly send tuition costs to ridiculous rates. At the pay most psychologists make today, it wouldn't be reasonable to go to all that schooling only to be in debt from grad school tuition for more than half your career. That's where things like this class can come in handy. When I first returne= d to school, I loved it so much I was studying constantly, merely because it was fun to learn. Then life caught up to me, and I soon discovered that I could squeak by with good grades by cramming and putting in the bear minimum. Now, after learning how memory works "best", recall, perception, etc... I realize I'm doing myself a disservice by not putting my all into every class. I got an A- in Calculus just last year, but if you ask me to derive or integrate something, I can't help you much. oh well. I'm sure I'm not winning any friends here... besides its unlikely anyone has even read this far. Who believes in ghosts? UFOs? Witchcraft? Kendrick ------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
they simply cannot accept all GRE scores. there has to be a cut off so= mewhere.  It simply isn't fair that someone who coasts through school = getting B's and C's and the occasional D and be allowed to continue on in g= rad school where there are more qualified persons with higher GPAs.  T= he thing is, there must be something that can distinguish a good student fr= om a bad one, and currently, until they get a better system, GPA and the GR= E is it. =20
 
There are other factors that decide admission to grad school.  My= professor in Personality Theory, Dr. Rhodewalt shared quite a bit about th= is just last week.  He encouraged students to discover what area of&nb= sp; focus they wanted to pursue as professionals and seek a connection= with a professor who is in that  field of expertise and accepting gra= d students.  He said this is probably the single most important ingred= ient in getting into grad school. =20
 
So, if the cut off for GRE is 48.  And its not a very good predic= tor of success in grad school --- who cares.  What you can probably be= t on is that below 48 would more than likely mean disaster.  This is a= ll easy for me to say since I have neither been accepted to grad school, no= r have I taken the GRE, but I guess what I mean is, there isn't really a pr= oblem with having a cut off score.  There just isn't time or money to = review all students who apply.  If all who took the GRE were considere= d for grad school, what would be the determining factor for grad school?&nb= sp; An interview?  An essay?  The cost of grad school is already = outrageous, but this line of reasoning would most certainly send tuition co= sts to ridiculous rates.  At the pay most psychologists make today, it= wouldn't be reasonable to go to all that schooling only to be in debt from= grad school tuition for more than half your career.
 
That's where things like this class can come in handy. When I first re= turned to school, I loved it so much I was studying constantly, merely beca= use it was fun to learn.  Then life caught up to me, and  I soon = discovered that I could squeak by with good grades by cramming and  pu= tting in the bear minimum.  Now, after learning how memory works "= ;best", recall, perception, etc... I realize I'm doing myself a d= isservice by not putting my all into every class.  I got an A- in Calc= ulus just last year, but if you ask me to derive or integrate somethin= g, I can't help you much. =20
 
oh well.  I'm sure I'm not winning any friends here... besides it= s unlikely anyone has even read this far. 
 
Who believes in ghosts?  UFOs?  Witchcraft?
 
Kendrick
------=_Part_31396_4813069.1133748502309-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 02:09:13 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly McGrath) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:09:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] end of class Message-ID: <002801c5f940$e41c72e0$0300a8c0@starwest> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to say that I have really enjoyed this semester in this = class. I hope that everyone else has enjoyed it as well. I have = learned a lot. I hope that everyone does well on the final and that you = all have a wonderful holiday and break from school. Kim McGrath ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just wanted to say that I have really = enjoyed=20 this semester in this class.  I hope that everyone else has enjoyed = it as=20 well.  I have learned a lot.  I hope that everyone does well = on the=20 final and that you all have a wonderful holiday and break from=20 school.
 
Kim McGrath
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C5F906.368D7F50-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 2 23:17:45 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly McGrath) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:17:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <002b01c5f796$9b1d4930$0300a8c0@starwest> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5F75B.EDE57650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought that the lecture on Parapsychology was very interesting. It = is amazing to me that people actually believe some of those things. I = was shocked to see the hidden pictures in the Disney movies. As a = parent it worries me to think of what my children might be watching and = learning. I was also surprised to see the extent to which people have = gone with "alien" paraphernalia. I never new that people truly believed = that strongly in these things. Kim McGrath ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5F75B.EDE57650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought that the lecture on = Parapsychology was=20 very interesting.  It is amazing to me that people actually believe = some of=20 those things.  I was shocked to see the hidden pictures in the = Disney=20 movies.  As a parent it worries me to think of what my children = might be=20 watching and learning.  I was also surprised to see the extent to = which=20 people have gone with "alien" paraphernalia.  I never new that = people truly=20 believed that strongly in these things.
 
Kim McGrath
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C5F75B.EDE57650-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 06:48:37 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (C S) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:48:37 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] #weely post Message-ID:
The Thursday's lecture on parapsychology was very interesting. I personally love to believe and want to know about weird stuff because it's always entertaining. I do believe that telepathy exists in some extent and many others too. and I think it wouldn't be too bad to believe whatever precog or psychic says about the future if prediction comes true.
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 16:18:21 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:18:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] schemata... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are schemata the same as heuristics? If not, how are they different? ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are schemata the same as heuristics?  If not, how are they=20 different?
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C5F97C.D626DFE0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 16:55:07 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:55:07 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ACT Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correct me if I'm wrong but, Atkinson and Shiffrin's standard theory of = information processing is simply the model of the mind that has sensory = stores feeding into working memory which in turn feeds into long term = memory (which includes semantic and episodic memory). Thus, Anderson's = ACT model differs only in that he says that there is another, = additional, separate production memory that is used primarily in skill = acquisition. Is this right? I think that it is... ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
correct me if I'm wrong but, Atkinson and Shiffrin's standard = theory of=20 information processing is simply the model of the mind that has sensory = stores=20 feeding into working memory which in turn feeds into long term memory = (which=20 includes semantic and episodic memory).  Thus, Anderson's ACT model = differs=20 only in that he says that there is another, additional, separate = production=20 memory that is used primarily in skill acquisition.  Is this = right?  I=20 think that it is...
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C5F981.F8F96B00-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 17:44:09 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #860 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <200512042007.NAA01350@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051205174409.11546.qmail@web52809.mail.yahoo.com> Thursdays discussion was very interesting. Parapsychology and topics such as psychics and aliens are very popular. I think the reason they are so popular is because people want to believe they are true. I dont know where I stand on most of these issues, but I would fall under the 50% of people who have had a paranormal experience. People believe in astrology for the same reasons they believe in religion, they want to believe in fate and the idea that they have no control over certain things that may happen in their life. I cant say that either are wrong. Being somewhat religious myself I wouldnt put down anyone for having a faith that they follow, nor would I put them down if that faith was in astrology or aliens. As for the others areas of discussion, I dont think that backwards lyrics can influence people. A lot of times I cant understand what singers are saying when it is played forward. And I would have to agree that blatant sex sells faster than subliminal messages in advertising. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 20:13:20 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:13:20 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <8C7C7EF78C6487A-1E50-17E69@mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C7EF78399DF7_1E50_10218_mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought the lecture on parapsychology was interesting. I can not believe that people acutally believe in that stuff. I remember hearing about how some people thought that if they played records backwards that there was demonic messages hidden on the records. I think that it's crazy to believe in such things. I really don't have any respect for people how study parapsychology. I remember as a kid looking up at the clouds and if you stare long enough you could make out shapes from the clouds. That was always fun to do when I was bored and I had nothing else to do as a child. Katie Homan ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7C7EF78399DF7_1E50_10218_mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I thought the lecture on parapsychology was interesting. I can not believe that people acutally believe in that stuff. I remember hearing about how some people thought that if they played records backwards that there was demonic messages hidden on the records. I think that it's crazy to believe in such things. I really don't have any respect for people how study parapsychology. I remember as a kid looking up at the clouds and if you stare long enough you could make out shapes from the clouds. That was always fun to do when I was bored and I had nothing else to do as a child. Katie Homan

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http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7C7EF78399DF7_1E50_10218_mblkn-m12.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 21:36:36 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David W. Maasberg) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:36:36 -0800 Subject: [Psych3120] David W. Maasberg Post #14.5-15 Message-ID: <43960464.5070805@aol.com> Dear Psych Message Bored- Just a couple questions..... 1. How can I get a few extra (2) hours of research? Does Dr. Strayer offer lab time? 2. Are we going to have a review before this final exam like we did last time? That is all for now ..... David Maasberg From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 22:28:53 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Parke) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:28:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] problem solving cont. Message-ID: All this talk about the GRE is starting to stress me out, as if worrying about finals isnt bad enough. I guess that is school for you, just a series of hoops to jump through...its not nessasarily the smartest ones that make it through rather the persistent ones. But if it comes down to the GRE making or breaking me as far as grad school goes, it just might break me. I know that problem solving is not my thing. As we talked about in class, I am the type of person that has a had time figuring anything out without someone explaining it to me a hundred times, or having seen it done. Even with music...I am retarded when it comes to sight reading, but after hearing it once it all makes sense and I can usually repeat it easily after that. I think my brain must be wired abit differently! Keith Parke _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 23:07:59 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (cortney tanner) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:07:59 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID:

 

I'm amazed at how many people fine hidden messages in cookies, pictures, and ads.  I have never had that much time to sit at stare at one, I guess.  Like Dr. Strayer said though, they simply do not work.  In my day it was hidden messages on records (yes, I'm that old).  I can't tell you how many needles we ruined trying to figure out what the Beatles were secrectly trying to tell us on the Sgt. Pepper album.  Maybe the only creatures that can hear them are those Martians who seem to want everyones ovaries and semen.  Nah, that would just be silly, wouldn't it!

Good luck to everyone on the final!

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 5 23:08:46 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (cortney tanner) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID:

 

I'm amazed at how many people fine hidden messages in cookies, pictures, and ads.  I have never had that much time to sit at stare at one, I guess.  Like Dr. Strayer said though, they simply do not work.  In my day it was hidden messages on records (yes, I'm that old).  I can't tell you how many needles we ruined trying to figure out what the Beatles were secrectly trying to tell us on the Sgt. Pepper album.  Maybe the only creatures that can hear them are those Martians who seem to want everyones ovaries and semen.  Nah, that would just be silly, wouldn't it!

Good luck to everyone on the final!

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 00:57:43 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alexis cononelos) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:57:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] last class Message-ID: <20051206005743.34166.qmail@web52413.mail.yahoo.com> --0-419464804-1133830663=:32502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The last class lecture was the most engaging and most entertaining one so far. It was really interesting to hear about parapsychology in the class room setting. It made for a cool change in our regular class routine. Here is an interesting thought: many people believe in certain aspects of parapsychology which may seem odd since there may be no hard evidence (or extraordinary evidence) of some of these beliefs but how does that differ much from people's belief in a higher being or a heaven or hell. These beliefs are held by the majority of Earth's population and yet they are "extraordinary claims" without "extraordinary evidence." I completely understand why scientist and others must think skeptically about things in order not to regard virtually anything as truth but we must admit that there are probably many things that we do not know about life, our world and beyond. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-419464804-1133830663=:32502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The last class lecture was the most engaging and most entertaining one so far.  It was really interesting to hear about parapsychology in the class room setting.  It made for a cool change in our regular class routine.  Here is an interesting thought: many people believe in certain aspects of parapsychology which may seem odd since there may be no hard evidence (or extraordinary evidence) of some of these beliefs but how does that differ much from people's belief in a higher being or a heaven or hell.  These beliefs are held by the majority of Earth's population and yet they are "extraordinary claims" without "extraordinary evidence."  I completely understand why scientist and others must think skeptically about things in order not to regard virtually anything as truth but we must admit that there are probably many things that we do not know about life, our world and beyond.   
 
 
 
 
 
       


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The lecture on parapsychology was really interesting.  I am excited for the movie tomorrow!!  I have noticed a lot of the Disney "mistakes" throughout the years.  One that wasn't discussed in class was one from Aladdin, when the genie is changed into a bee and he whispers "take off your clothes" during one of the scenes.  It's amazing that these things just went unnoticed.  The alien stuff is really weird too.  I think it would be so interesting to go to that museum and see all of the things that have been "recovered" from our little alien friends.

~Danielle

 

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 06:17:06 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kevin davis) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:17:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology Message-ID: I think parapsychology is fun to discuss. Conspiracy theories are my favorite to read about. Yesterday my father handed me an article about a professor from BYU Idaho who quit his job teaching in order to prove his theory that the recent nature disasters in the US are the result of a weapon that the Yakuza (Japanese mafia) developed in order get revenge for the US for dropping the bombs on Nagasaki and hiroshima. I thought it was pretty far fetched but hey whatever gets your motor running. -Kevin From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 07:31:04 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eve Patterson) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:31:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Paul is dead... In-Reply-To: <200512051901.MAA16367@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051206073104.70288.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where fun subject matter is given, fun postings should be abundant. That is why after our para-normal discussion on Thursday I gave myself permission (okay fine, an excuse) to jump into the crazy universe of the paranormal and subliminal. Here are a few of my favorite sites: http://www.aliensthetruth.com is probably my favorite, they are everything you could want, alien pictures, government conspiracy and the Truth Fox Moulder always sought out! You will at least be entertained! Another site I found was www.beatlesagain.com on this site it talks in further detail about the "cover-up" of Paul's death and then the revealing backwards lyrics on the white album. I never knew people thought he died some years earlier (1966), then the Beatles at the height of their popularity were forced to hold a secret look-alike contest and replaced him with some guy who is to this day the fake Paul McCartney. Wow, that's quite a story....check it out it's kinda fun you can listen to some of the clues in the songs. A final website is http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2813/cnn-dicks-cheney-subliminal-messages according to this website, we as Americans, dislike Dick Cheney due to a "Communist News Network" who has been defiling his name by puting 1/15th of a second, subliminal propoganda across the screen, like the famed 'X' through his face during a CNN interview last week. Really?! First off pulling the whole "communist" line is so James Bond circa 1975. Thanks Cold War but were on to terrorism in a different region! Second,call me a bleeding heart liberal but I doubt Dick's approval rating is at a 19% because he's a warm teddy bear wanting to do what's best for Americans but, dang-it, foiled again those liberals have pulled out their magic subliminal messaging system! Beyond my control I am forced to hate the dearly beloved Dick Cheney! Anyway it's some fun stuff to check out. I am looking forward to the video with the Amazing Randy (right?) tomorrow, oh darn, I've been playing too long it will be later today now. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 17:01:17 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shawn Bassett) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] gre is fine what about lifestyle Message-ID: I just wanted to add a quick little blurb to the entry about, there needing to be a cut off for grad school with the GRE. I know that the main intention was to make the statement to get invovled with a proffesor but soome times that is not all the time possible as well. Particularly here at UofU there are alot of students with families trying to better themselve. I dont know everyones situation but try to maintain high A's with a fiew B's while trying to raises a couple of kids a maintain a full time job so they don't suffer financially and so you are not abusing the welfare system. Put in hours of research experience and make friends with a proffesor. yeah it's a lot on the plate. The problem with having GRE be a focus is that it tends to be an inital disqualification. If things are high in this area and grades they tend to not look at anything else. This all while competing with a bunch of applicants that parents paid for school and they were able to just focus on school and their busy busy social life. Not to say that you have this situation but it does exist and I wouldn't say that they would be a better candidate than the one with the family. I would say that I agree there needs to be a type of grade cut offor comparison but it needs to be something of a final decision and not the means for the initial cutoff. deal with the issues that show that a person has the ability to do multiple things in life. I dont mean to sound abrasive but I know a few people here at the U that fall into this situation that may not be top choice for a graduate school because they have so much going on but I dont think I have met many others that are as capable in the field they have chosen. Shawn _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 19:14:07 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dave Jones) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:14:07 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology - David Jones Message-ID: As we were talking after the video in class today I thought of something that I felt was quite interesting that needs to be pointed out. All these things like astrology and psychichs and stuff are doing is giving the listener direction. They are providing them a service, or hope, so that they may feel like they can expect the unexpected. They are looking for direction and guidance and whether the people giving it to them are valid or not, it gives them a sense of comfort. Is it just me or does that sound an awful lot like believing something that is not scientificaly provable on the basis of "faith" I am not trying to tear down anyone's belief systems here I just felt the need to point it out so that everyone may realize that they could be making fun of someone for beliefs that scientificly speaking make about as much sense as their own beliefs. Personaly, while it funny that it was shown that these many institutions in Russia were a bunch of hooey; I personally would question whether the people going to the "clinic" in the video would be able to spend the same money to go to a doctor in the area and actually recieve proper medical treatment. Just food for thought David Jones From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 19:39:18 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:39:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Re: The Placebo effect as a possible fruit of Parapsychological research Message-ID: <1133897958.4395e8e6acef9@webmail.utah.edu> In class today, we watched the skeptic's view of parapsychology. Of course many supposed psychic phenomena were shown to be highly improbable due to lack of empirically valid statistically significant results. Yet, I think that we miss an essential portion of the writing on the wall. Though there may not have been anything special about the water used to "cure" people or Rev. Popov may not have had God's healing power, we still are left with evidence of the placebo effect. The placebo effect is so evidently pronounced that all western emirical research, especially that of pharmeceuticals, must control and account for the influence of the placebo effect. What must be realized is that the placebo effect is controlled for inorder to demonstrte the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of the drug, but the placebo effect itself is seldom explored or related in terms of its implications. SO.. What power does belief truly have. How is it that someone who believes that they are recieving some type of cure can mentally and physiologically affect their state of well-being. I don't intend to assert any mechanism or obvious capability of mind as being psychic or having telekinetic ability, but something is going on. The simple point is that we need more research with a focu on exploring the nature of belief affecting both physiologically and mentally the state of our being. As the western tradition has employed the pill and procedures as the ultimate ability to address problems, we have left the evident power of mind in the shadows. Perhaps studies should focus on eliciting the placebo effect rather than only attempting to qualify some drug. nWe know very little about how potent our conscious states may be in effecting our physiological and mental systems. So, as we mock many of the endeavors that are "exposed" by parapsychological research, perhaps we should be truly amazed at the magic of our belief affecting the world around us. If so many of the recent phenomena we have explored has seemed to debunk wierd and super-atural claims,perhaps at the ground level we may be astounded by the very powers we contain, but yet don't understand or know how to control, in terms of believing extraordinary things that then affect our experience as well as physical bodies. 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When he went into the classroom and did that lecture, and the boy said that he still didn't disprove things or whatever, you can totally tell when people believe in stuff like that... Like he obviously did. I think it is interesting to hear all the stuff they can do to make you believe that kind of stuff... And it was awesome how they couldn't get that guy to perform on the show, yet people still didn't see through him. I also thought it was so, so sad when that guy, who was pretending to be all religious and that God spoke to him, that was scamming those people and getting his money and I am glad he finally filed bankruptcy. When I went to Hawaii two summers ago I decided to do a fortune teller... I don't believe in those things but I thought it would be interesting. She of course hit things right on and after in the car we were talking about it and I said how she was so broad on everything that if she wasn't right it would be weird. For me, I think it is interesting but how much money and how people read into it so much can be very scary. I hope everyone does well on the exam!! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 22:21:32 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jessica Berry) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:21:32 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Psychics In-Reply-To: <200512062056.NAA02395@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Psychics provide a belief system for a subset of individuals who need to have some kind of faith in a world of unknowns. The information provided by the psychic allows the individuals to engage in introspection and self-definition, which is imperative for a fulfilling life. This act is not unlike therapy. The act of a psychic reading allows an individual to experience a feeling of being accompanied in the universe, rather than a stark and lonely feeling of the scientific world, where irrationality is not allowed. I think this meets a basic human need of security in an unknown and uncontrollable world. The paranormal can be seen to provide a belief system that accompanies, or perhaps replaces, a religious belief system. The scientist’s ability to disprove paranormal activity can also be applied to religion. So, why is it that we didn’t dissect religion the way that we dissect the paranormal? Because the belief systems of those who believe in paranormal activity are already in the minority group in this society. We wouldn’t touch religion in this class with a 10-foot pole, especially in this state. Where I don’t condone the exploitation of the vulnerable, as many psychics and magicians do, I think those who believe in paranormal activity can show us a lot about the basics of human nature: the need for an answer to life. I also don’t necessarily think people are always being exploited. I think most people think there is monetary risk involved when visiting a psychic. People are paying for some help with introspection, and in some cases, hope. Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind because that is not the kind of mind humans have. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 6 23:39:43 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shawn Bassett) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:39:43 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] let people be. Message-ID: in class I made some comments about the video and I must add that I apologize to anyone that may believe in a lot of these things. An earlier post kind of sparked a thought and I would like to agree with it. There are a lot of beliefs out there and who am I to decide which is true to others. I wouldn't like for someone to mock my beliefs. also with the other post these views if nothing else give people direction the same as any religion. I don't believe in any of it on the lifestyle level, there have been several unexplained events in our lives and if you want to believe mad props to you. I apologize if any in class believes in it and was offended by anything I said. Shawn _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 02:01:23 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kendrick) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:01:23 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] response to shawn Message-ID: <33375ed40512061801w26071e64mf9c23090d831912e@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline actually Shawn, although I can't speak directly for myself, I do have some understanding in the situations you suggested. I put my wife through school for 10 years, we have 2 kids (with one on the way--in 2 weeks) and w= e managed to get her through the community college, pre-reqs for pharmacy school at the U, then pharmacy school, then her Pharm-D, then a fellowship and a masters in Public Health. I know all about juggling jobs, kids, and life. Its not really any easier for students whose parents pay for their education... you'd think it would be, but you might be surprised on how well/not well they typically do academically. (this I know personally). I= t was very very difficult getting my wife through pharmacy school, and we both had to sacrifice. The one area we refused to sacrifice was in raising our kids. I got a job that enabled me to pretty much make my own schedule and we managed to get through those 10 + years w/out hardly any daycare/grandmas/babysitters. Now that she's done, it my turn to go to school and finish up. Sometimes I feel that the odds are stacked against me. I'm usually the oldest student in all my classes. I'm often older tha= n the TA's and sometimes even older than the professors. Its a challenge. And I haven't even started to think about hooking up w/someone for research,(which by the way, Joel mentioned how he needs help in his lab jus= t today...) so I guess I don't really know what that is all about, but I do know that if you want it bad enough, you'll do what you have to do to make it happen. At least that's all I've got going for me anyways. ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline actually Shawn, although I can't speak directly for myself, I do have some = understanding in the  situations you suggested.  I put my wife th= rough school for 10 years, we have 2 kids (with one on the way--in 2 weeks)= and we managed to get her through the  community college, pre-reqs fo= r pharmacy school at the U, then pharmacy school, then her Pharm-D, then a = fellowship and a masters in Public Health.  I know all about juggling = jobs, kids, and  life.  Its not really any easier for students wh= ose parents pay for their education... you'd think it would be, but you mig= ht be surprised on how well/not well they typically do academical= ly.  (this I know personally).  It was very  very difficult = getting my wife through pharmacy school, and we both had to sacrifice. = ; The one area we refused to sacrifice was in raising our kids.  I got= a job that enabled me to pretty much make my own schedule and we managed t= o get through those 10 + years w/out hardly any daycare/grandmas/babysitter= s.  Now that she's done, it my turn to go to school and finish up.&nbs= p; Sometimes I feel that the odds are stacked against me.  I'm usually= the oldest student in all my classes.  I'm often older than the TA's = and sometimes even older than the professors.  Its a challenge.  = And I haven't even started to think about hooking up w/someone for research= ,(which by the way, Joel mentioned how he needs help in his lab just t= oday...) so I guess I don't really know what that is all about, but I = do know that if you want it bad enough, you'll do what you have to do to ma= ke it happen.  At least that's all I've got going for me anyways. ------=_Part_15924_4092969.1133920883618-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 02:02:19 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (kamicia Miller) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:02:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] video thoughts Message-ID:


I enjoyed the video we watched today.  I personally don't believe in psychics or stuff like that so it was good to see someone that was able to really test them.  I wonder if psychics or "faith healers" get together and talk about different things to do, new approches or giving tips.  If they did, that would be a nice network in the business and away to keep on top of things so you look believable, but on the other hand, I think that most of the people are in it to make as much money as they can, so do they really want to give secrets to competion?  I guess there are pro's and con's to both situations.  The class has definetly taught me to be more skeptical.  such as this parapsychology stuff and eye witness testimonies, even what I see with my own eyes--  how the brain "fills in the gaps".  I've enjoyed learning and understanding the processes of the brain.   

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[Psych3120] science and the paranormal... Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable She said that "Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind = because that is not the=20 kind of mind humans have." To some degree I agree. While I tend to be = skeptical with respect to the whole paranormal thing, I do believe that = there are lots of things that science cannot explain. Within the = theories that scientists formulate there are many unanswered questions. = It somewhat bothers me that some scientists think that they know = everything. It seems that we forget that science forms THEORIES and = while we tend to accept them as true, it should be on the condition that = we realize that there could be a better way to explain the phenomena = that so abundantly surround us. In science, we're stuck taking things = on faith because ultimately, we cannot prove a theory true. We can = justify a claim based on evidence we collect but, in the history of = science, how many times have we assumed the wrong thing? The scientific = method can be used to prove a theory wrong but not right. We would do = well to remember that. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
She said that "Life cannot be lived solely with a scientific mind = because=20 that is not the
kind of mind humans have."  To some degree I=20 agree.  While I tend to be skeptical with respect = to the=20 whole paranormal thing, I do believe that there are lots of things that = science=20 cannot explain.  Within the theories that scientists formulate = there are=20 many unanswered questions.  It somewhat bothers me that some = scientists=20 think that they know everything.  It seems that we forget that = science=20 forms THEORIES and while we tend to accept them as true, it should be on = the=20 condition that we realize that there could be a better way to explain = the=20 phenomena that so abundantly surround us.  In science, we're stuck = taking=20 things on faith because ultimately, we cannot prove a theory true.  = We can=20 justify a claim based on evidence we collect but, in the history of = science, how=20 many times have we assumed the wrong thing?  The scientific method = can be=20 used to prove a theory wrong but not right.  We would do well to = remember=20 that.

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C5FAA8.66C84DA0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 04:08:24 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Colton Felts) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:08:24 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is an intriguing point. Has anyone done any research looking more = at the placebo effect? ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is an intriguing point.  Has anyone done any research = looking=20 more at the placebo effect?
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C5FAA9.32065520-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 18:52:44 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberly Hollie) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:52:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] mind body healing In-Reply-To: <200512070251.TAA06342@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20051207185244.54968.qmail@web34013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There were several good points discussed in class after the video. I have to agree that as long as the belief does not go too far, there is no harm in someone believeing in the paranormal. I dont think that people should spend a lot of money searching for answers through these method, but if it gives them hope, then maybe that is all they have. A website I found touched on these subjects a bit, and I found it to be interesting. It says : "Since time immemorial, healers have respected the link between mind and body--namely, how emotions can both create disease as well as heal it. Indeed, anthropologists who have explored the history of healing have long been aware of the pivotal role that the mind-body connection has played in different cultures, throughout the ages. Modern scientists, however, have been reluctant to acknowledge the existence of the ephemeral mind-body connection, primarily because the power of the mind to induce healing could not be proven by clinical research. For this reason, the treatment of mind and body has been kept strictly separate. Medical schools, for instance, have traditionally given more credence to medical or surgical solutions rather than psychiatric ones. But things are now changing. Over the last decade, well-designed research studies have been conducted, and there's currently an accumulating mass of scientific data showing just how intimately connected mind and body truly are." If you want to read more about mind body healing, the link is www.wholehealthmd.com/print/view/1,1560,AR_1198,00.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
There were several good points discussed in class after the video. I have to agree that as long as the belief does not go too far, there is no harm in someone believeing in the paranormal. I dont think that people should spend a lot of money searching for answers through these method, but if it gives them hope, then maybe that is all they have. A website I found touched on these subjects a bit, and I found it to be interesting. It says :
 
"Since time immemorial, healers have respected the link between mind and body--namely, how emotions can both create disease as well as heal it. Indeed, anthropologists who have explored the history of healing have long been aware of the pivotal role that the mind-body connection has played in different cultures, throughout the ages.
Modern scientists, however, have been reluctant to acknowledge the existence of the ephemeral mind-body connection, primarily because the power of the mind to induce healing could not be proven by clinical research. For this reason, the treatment of mind and body has been kept strictly separate. Medical schools, for instance, have traditionally given more credence to medical or surgical solutions rather than psychiatric ones.
But things are now changing. Over the last decade, well-designed research studies have been conducted, and there's currently an accumulating mass of scientific data showing just how intimately connected mind and body truly are."
 
If you want to read more about mind body healing, the link is


Yahoo! Personals
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Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals --0-1278537912-1133981564=:54895-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 19:11:18 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Trinity Allred) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:11:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I think that movie we watched in class yesterday was neat. I especially thought the bit about the russians was really interesting. My in-laws spent extensive time all over in that country. Most of the people there believe in this psychic healing stuff. At least that is what my in-laws tell me. What is really really amazing to me that these people will spend most of their income on this "healing" program. But I guess that is no different than people here spending $100 per visit to a chiropractor. It is all a bunch of bologna. Trinity A. Allred _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 20:49:14 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] farewell message board Message-ID: <8C7C986D156D17A-14BC-144CF@FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yesterday's video on the paranormal was really entertaining and interesting. It complemented Thursday's discussion on claims of the paranormal from last Thursday. Some people also made some very interesting comments regarding this topic following the class on Tuesday and on the message board. I have enjoyed reading what others have had to say. Personally, I have always been pretty skeptical of things like this. It is fun and amusing, but not scientific. However, I agree with what many others have said about how it doesn't need to be scientific to be believed by many. And the power of the placebo effect was mentioned many times and is quite apparent in the video. People will believe what they want to believe, and if it gives people direction, than that is just fine. But as a psychology major, I can understand why many people call it all a hoax. On another note...I know our test review is tomorrow, but I was just finishing the study guide and I was wondering if anyone knew the strengths and weakness of Anderson's and Logan's theories (question #4). Were these ever specifically mentioned in class? If anyone knows, please post something. Lastly, I just want to thank everyone who participated in the message board. Many stimulating thougts were offered and there were lots of helpful messages regarding lectures, test questions, etc. I really enjoyed and appreciated the message board. Hope everyone does well on the test! -Danielle Stocking ----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Yesterday's video on the paranormal was really entertaining and interesting.  It complemented Thursday's discussion on claims of the paranormal from last Thursday.  Some people also made some very interesting comments regarding this topic following the class on Tuesday and on the message board.  I have enjoyed reading what others have had to say.  Personally, I have always been pretty skeptical of things like this.  It is fun and amusing, but not scientific.  However, I agree with what many others have said about how it doesn't need to be scientific to be believed by many.  And the power of the placebo effect was mentioned many times and is quite apparent in the video.  People will believe what they want to believe, and if it gives people direction, than that is just fine.  But as a psychology major, I can understand why many people call it all a hoax. 
On another note...I know our test review is tomorrow, but I was just finishing the study guide and I was wondering if anyone knew the strengths and weakness of Anderson's and Logan's theories (question #4).  Were these ever specifically mentioned in class?  If anyone knows, please post something.
Lastly, I just want to thank everyone who participated in the message board.  Many stimulating thougts were offered and there were lots of helpful messages regarding lectures, test questions, etc.  I really enjoyed and appreciated the message board.  Hope everyone does well on the test!
-Danielle Stocking 
----------MailBlocks_8C7C986D156D17A_14BC_13D7F_FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 7 20:55:24 2005 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:55:24 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] Exam 3 question 5 Message-ID: <8C7C987ADB87801-170C-18242@mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com> ----------MailBlocks_8C7C987AD925281_170C_1079D_mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in in decision making. Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually give an acceptable solution. There are used to speed up decision making, and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms, a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected correctly produce optimal decision. These algorithm's can be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics, one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind. If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities. You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation of the problem, then adjust this estimate upward or downward on the basis of other information the problem. The confirmation bias of heuristics is the tendency to seek information that confirms the initial hypothesis. Another bias is when part of anchoring bias. If you are given a series of pieces of information, you give more weight to early evidence in the sequence. For example when purchasing a car you are more likely to look at the car that starts off by saying that it's great on mileage, it's clean, and no rust then a description of a car that starts off by saying that it's rusted, not so good on gas, but it's clean. ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ----------MailBlocks_8C7C987AD925281_170C_1079D_mblkn-m10.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
 
 
 
 
I have started the first part of this question. Describe the role of heuristics play in
in decision making.
Instead of making detailed calculations to select choices, people appear to
use heuristics which are simple rules that require little calculation, and usually
give an acceptable solution.  There are used to speed up decision making,
and simplify rule of thumbs. Heuristics can lead to non optimal choices and
inconsistent decisions. A heuristic can be contrasted with a algorithms,
a formula that produces consistent outcomes and may if it is selected
correctly produce optimal decision.  These algorithm's can
be complex and difficult to calculate. There are three types of heuristics,
one is representativeness which is used when people are asked to judge the
probability that something belongs to a category, if it has features strongly
associated with that category. The availability heuristic is used to judge
the probability of events. You simply try to call examples of the event to mind.
If many examples can be called to mind easily, you judge the event to be more
 probable. Anchoring and adjustment heuristic is used to estimate probabilities.
 You start with a probability value (the anchor) by doing a partial computation