From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 1 00:30:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:30:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] subliminal messages Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30" ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Today=92s lecture was really interesting for me. I always wondered about subliminal messages. I have heard many people say that they are really effective. I have learned from this class that if you don=92t attend to something, it has no way of finding a home in your brain. I think some = of the pictures I have seen of ads that look sexual may have subliminal messages included, but you can generally figure out what they are trying = to say even without studying it. The ones that surprised me, though, were = the Disney movies. That is completely just artists trying to have a little = fun. I don=92t think we experienced a rush of 6 year olds trying to go out = and have sex. Freud may have something to say about it, but I don=92t see that it = made a difference in my kids! =20 ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Today’s lecture was really = interesting for me. I always wondered about subliminal messages. I have heard many = people say that they are really effective. I have learned from this class that = if you don’t attend to something, it has no way of finding a home in your = brain. I think some of the pictures I have seen of ads that look sexual may = have subliminal messages included, but you can generally figure out what they = are trying to say even without studying it. The ones that surprised me, = though, were the Disney movies. That is completely just artists trying to have a = little fun. I don’t think we experienced a rush of 6 year olds trying to = go out and have sex. Freud may have something to say about it, but I = don’t see that it made a difference in my kids!

 

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 Last Tuesday we talked about decision making and problem solving. Chapter 11 talked about the fallicies  humans make when making decisions.  It made me think about how many American enterprises make money because of poor decision making on the part of the American public and by ignoring expect value. For example, who would think that anyone would enter the lottery when the chances of winning are 1 in 7 million.  Or that people would still gamble, some religiously, when the average return, by the house, when playing Blackjack can be as high as 99 percent. Expected value can be completely disregard, when people would likely be better off keeping their dollar (or thousands of dollars).  I bet if you were to put these odds in another context, by lets say ask someone if they would risk losing one-hundred dollars when their chance of winning would be 1 in 100, they would say no. I believe that we spend money in these illogicial ways because we believe somehow our odds will be different and we may be that luckily individual, but we won't.  

 

Today in class we talked about parapsychology. Dr Strayer reminded us to be very skeptical about what we hear and what we believe. This is wise advice, because it is so easy to get caught up in conspiracy theories. I can't help but be intrigued by shows about aliens, UFO's, and strange occurances. I remember watching one program on Area 51 which talked about peculiar things like all the sensors miles outside of Area 51 and the airport terminal that flew secret workers to and from the area which was nickednamed JANET "just another non-existent terminal." I remember watching this program and thinking "Damn we have aliens." Dr. Strayer made me realize how ridiculous this is when he said something to the effect of "what they don't tell you is that they don't let people enter sites 1-50 either." Plus I imagine if aliens really did exist I would imagine they would probably be attacking us. 

               I also found it interesting to know how many people believe in extraordinary events, I would not think it would be as high as 2 in 3. Although I do believe that crop circles, the locknest monsters, and UFO's are probably good hoaxs and mistakes of perceptions I do believe that many humans do possess extraordinary powers that can not be explained and are perhaps reflect a new stage in human evolution. For me, there is just too much evidence of human telepathy, telekinesis, and precognition. Even the C.I.A has psychics working for them, a psychic (perhaps not their best) is assisting them right now in helping to track Bin Laden. I guess I am with the majority of individuals who believe there is some truth behind the extraodinary powers many claim to possess.

THANKS EVE!



Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 1 04:42:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paige) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:42:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Psych3120] Question on question #6 Message-ID: <20061201044206.7E50099E30@mprdmxin.myway.com> --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__2b8a4528bdce8ec968187cba20710414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone. I was just going over study guide number 3, and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on question number six. They questions is, describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills. Provide an example of how might you use these strategies in everyday life? So I was looking over the notes from the 21st, and was a little confused on what exactly it was looking for. There are a few solutions that are suggested to improve your problem solving skills, but these are the ones I figure that it is talking about. If anyone out there feels that I am wrong, please let me know. The four factors involved in creative problem solving are: 1. Preparation: forming the problem, attempting to solve the problem. 2. Incubation: set the problem aside for awhile. 3. Illumination: develop insightful perspective. 4. Verification: check to make sure that the solution solves the problem. Thanks! -Paige Baucom _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__2b8a4528bdce8ec968187cba20710414 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey everyone. I was just going over study guide number 3, and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on question number six. They questions is, describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills. Provide an example of how might you use these strategies in everyday life?

So I was looking over the notes from the 21st, and was a little confused on what exactly it was looking for. There are a few solutions that are suggested to improve your problem solving skills, but these are the ones I figure that it is talking about. If anyone out there feels that I am wrong, please let me know.

The four factors involved in creative problem solving are: 1. Preparation: forming the problem, attempting to solve the problem. 2. Incubation: set the problem aside for awhile. 3. Illumination: develop insightful perspective. 4. Verification: check to make sure that the solution solves the problem.

Thanks!

-Paige Baucom







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I thought todays lecture was really entertaining. I am really NOT a skeptical person...I pretty much believe anything I ever get told. I always thought that subliminal advertising worked..it seems like a lot of money and trouble to put all those secret messages into ads if they arent even going to work. The only thing I was skeptical about was the backwards music...I guess I thought it would be alot clearer message. I couldnt really hear anything on any of the songs. It kind of seemed like reading what it is susposed to be saying would bias you toward hearing that message.

PS...who ever was asking about GRE prep...alot of people I have talked to said that the book WordSmart for the GRE helped w/ the vocab section ALOT. And I also heard that the math portion is really similar to what you do on the ACT...and ACT tutors/study materials are cheaper than the GRE stuff...just a thought, a couple people have told me it worked for them.

"The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love and be loved in return."
 
 


Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and a Web site from Microsoft Office Live From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 2 00:35:41 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:35:41 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612011635m21e0967bk3640710ffb45dc71@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All, I was thinking about 2 things in class today, and thought I'd bring them up here on the Messege Board. First of all: I have had it a many times where I've been thinking about a random friend back home, and then that night he or she calls me. ESP? I have also had it where the phone rings and I just get a "feeling" that it's, let's say, my mom--and it is. ESP? I used to think that ESP might be real because of all these examples. But when I took Social Psychology, we learned that people are much more likely to remember when strange things happen to them. Of the millions of times that I thought about a friend but he or she did NOT call, I forget those. But I remember all the rare times when he or she does call me. Thus, since I remember those times but forget all the rest, I tended to think that there really may be some truth to ESP. Now, when something like that happens, I just remind myself that there were probably 1000 times that the phone rang and it was not the person I thought it was going to be. I just don't remember the normal things (transience). So...the next time you get locked out of your car and you think: "this ALWAYS happens to me" --think again about all the times (many more, I'm sure) that you did NOT get locked out. Like Dr. Strayer said: be skeptical...there's usually a rational reason behind "parapsychology". Emily ------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All,
    I was thinking about 2 things in class today, and thought I'd bring them up here on the Messege Board.  First of all:  I have had it a many times where I've been thinking about a random friend back home, and then that night he or she calls me.  ESP?  I have also had it where the phone rings and I just get a "feeling" that it's, let's say, my mom--and it is.  ESP?  I used to think that ESP might be real because of all these examples.  But when I took Social Psychology, we learned that people are much more likely to remember when strange things happen to them.  Of the millions of times that I thought about a friend but he or she did NOT call, I forget those.  But I remember all the rare times when he or she does call me.  Thus, since I remember those times but forget all the rest, I tended to think that there really may be some truth to ESP.   Now, when something like that happens, I just remind myself that there were probably 1000 times that the phone rang and it was not the person I thought it was going to be.  I just don't remember the normal things (transience). 

    So...the next time you get locked out of your car and you think: "this ALWAYS happens to me" --think again about all the times (many more, I'm sure) that you did NOT get locked out.   Like Dr. Strayer said:  be skeptical...there's usually a rational reason behind "parapsychology".

            Emily
------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 2 18:41:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Chad C Moffitt) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:41:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] do muscles have episodic memories? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing Dr. Strayer mentioned in class this week about neural networks = is that memories are stored in the synapses between neural connections. = He discussed the storage of memories in terms of the strength of the = synaptic connection. Neuro scientists have discoved a few dozen = different kinds of protiens that are involved with the storage of = memories at the synaptic level. Any explicit memory we have, eposidic = or otherwise, seems to be reducible to a combination of different = protiens acting at particular synapses in the parietal lobe and other = associated areas. If this is so, one wonders whether isolating and = placing these combinations of protiens at any synapse in the nervous = system would produce an episodic memory, retrievable by our cognitive = retrieval processes. It may be that muscles and other tissues in our = bodies do store memories, for how else could muscles and other motor = processes in our body be self-sustaining, without our conscious effort. = Some of these memories could be episodic and we simply lack the ability = and resources to retrieve them and bring them into consciousness. = Indeed, systems theorists believe that even atoms may store memories. = We just aren't aware of the content because we cannot retrieve them. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
One thing Dr. Strayer = mentioned in class this week about neural networks is that memories are = stored in the synapses between neural connections.  He discussed = the storage of memories in terms of the strength of the synaptic = connection.  Neuro scientists have discoved a few dozen different = kinds of protiens that are involved with the storage of memories at the = synaptic level.  Any explicit memory we have, eposidic or = otherwise, seems to be reducible to a combination of different protiens = acting at particular synapses in the parietal lobe and other associated = areas.  If this is so, one wonders whether isolating and = placing these combinations of protiens at any synapse in the nervous = system would produce an episodic memory, retrievable by our cognitive = retrieval processes.  It may be that muscles and other = tissues in our bodies do store memories, for how else could muscles = and other motor processes in our body be self-sustaining, without our = conscious effort.  Some of these memories could be episodic = and we simply lack the ability and resources to retrieve them and bring = them into consciousness.  Indeed, systems theorists believe = that even atoms may store memories.  We just aren't = aware of the content because we cannot retrieve = them.  
------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 00:00:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kevin Mangum) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:00:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] psych Message-ID: <32252.43735.qm@web52612.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In England there is some cool research going on. here is a bleep from there study. Expression is examined from the viewpoint of communication theory and it is argued that a proper understanding of expression involves an integrated description of both performance and perception. A framework is developed in which to couch a general theory of expression. As an example, a number of algorithms, implemented in Lisp are described which model the performance and perception of rubato. The model is based on two factors: 1) the use of “phrase final lengthening” to signal a group boundary and 2) the ability of the listener to track a variable tempo. The study shows that rubato is a rich source of information for the listener and that any realistic music parser must take this into account. On the other hand any performance model must take into account the constraints of perception. --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In England there is some cool research going on. here is a bleep from there study. Expression is examined from the viewpoint of communication theory and it is argued that a proper understanding of expression involves an integrated description of both performance and perception. A framework is developed in which to couch a general theory of expression. As an example, a number of algorithms, implemented in Lisp are described which model the performance and perception of rubato. The model is based on two factors: 1) the use of “phrase final lengthening” to signal a group boundary and 2) the ability of the listener to track a variable tempo. The study shows that rubato is a rich source of information for the listener and that any realistic music parser must take this into account. On the other hand any performance model must take into account the constraints of perception.


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 18:24:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Radley) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Subliminal Messages Message-ID: --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pretty shocked by the advertisements that we saw. I would have never= guessed that those things were included in ads. Frankly, I don't think th= at they have influenced me at all. The ad of the clams looked like a pile = of nasty meat to me, not an orgy of lightly-breaded people. And the cracke= r? I felt no unresistable urge for sex or crackers after seeing it. If ad= vertisers are really are spending their time and money on that kind of thin= g, I am very unimpressed. There are definitely better ways of attracting t= heir target audience. I was interested that backwards messages in music we= re included in the lecture. I play in a band that has recorded a few songs= . In one of them, a part of Moby Dick is read and looped backwards. Maybe= everyone that has listened to it has been inspired to pick up a little Her= man Melville. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo! http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=3D7adb59de-a857-45ba-81cc-= 685ee3e858fe= --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pretty shocked by the advertisements that we saw.  I would= have never guessed that those things were included in ads.  Frankly, = I don't think that they have influenced me at all.  The ad of the clam= s looked like a pile of nasty meat to me, not an orgy of lightly-breaded pe= ople.  And the cracker?  I felt no unresistable urge for sex or c= rackers after seeing it.  If advertisers are really are spending their= time and money on that kind of thing, I am very unimpressed.  There a= re definitely better ways of attracting their target audience.  I was = interested that backwards messages in music were included in the lecture.&n= bsp; I play in a band that has recorded a few songs.  In one of them, = a part of Moby Dick is read and looped backwards.  Maybe everyone that= has listened to it has been inspired to pick up a little Herman Melville.&= nbsp;

Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Y= ahoo! Talk now! = --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 19:57:50 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:57:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Psychology Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612031157k14b445c7ib1a97d06d58fdf1c@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things. I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd. I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain. I think that there are things that we do not comprehend. However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people. I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant. It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen. i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there. I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things.  I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd.  I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain.  I think that there are things that we do not comprehend.  However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people.  I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant.  It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. 

It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen.  i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there.  I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 21:57:19 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lexi Breeze) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: So this week I want to talk about subliminal messaging! I love it so much I think it is so interesting. I think the most interesting part is why they do it. If it doesn't work then why would you put this crap in your stuff? Especially the people from disney. I have seen a lot of other stuff come from disney and it's like they are supposed to be this childrens company with good wholesome values and stuff in their movies and it seems like they put a lot of subliminal crap in their movies. And there are drawings of stuff on the covers of their movies and I really just don't get why they would do that? Especially if there is a chance that people could discover what you have done and the word gets out into the public, I would think that would discourage a lot of people from taking their children to and buying their movies. Like I wonder if it's some secret thing that happens that the guy doing the animation goofs off and puts something explicit in their that no one else will really notice just because he can. And the people making all the other advertisements that we saw in class, if they are just being funny, or what? It seems like there is a lot of extra time going into putting these things in there and for no reason because you would never even notice it. Some of them are even hard to see when you know what you're looking for and you're staring right at it. And who has the time to listen to all these songs backwards and try to figure out something you can make up that it says backwards because it sounds close to it? People are weird, that's all I have to say. _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 02:31:33 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jake Andreason) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Thursdays lecture was pretty intersting. I don't think I'll ever look at disney movies the same way, but it was pretty funny. I have always wondered if subliminal messages actually did anything so it was kind of cool to hear about it. I personally don't think I have ever noticed any of it though. And the hidden messages in the songs is just dumb. That's just somebody with way too much time on their hands sitting there trying to make messages where theres nothing to begin with. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 02:46:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Erasure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At some point this week Dr. Strayer mentioned chemicals that erase parts of our memories; to be precise to erase specific memories of traumatic events. This weekend while putting off doing some homework I managed to catch a TNT showing of the movie Paycheck, which deals with erasing memories of a specific period of time. After doing some light research on Google, I found this article: http://www.sciam.com/ article.cfm?articleID=0006783F-2CFE-1FE2-ACFE83414B7FFE9F Basically, it states that while memory erasure of the kind in Paycheck is still merely speculative, it has been shown to be possible to erase several hours of memory in both humans and animals using electroshock therapy - and work with the hippocampus shows that it is possible to selectively remove animal's memories of places where they have received training! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 03:37:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jacob Hansen) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:

as we talked this week in class about esp and subliminal messages i was interested in the music being played backwards.  this to me was a load of garbage for the most part.  as we have learned one cannot be influenced by something that they do not percieve. so the people who have taken the time to play these songs backward it seems very far fetched.  half of the lyrics i could not understand so how could they be influencing me? it sounds nice to point the finger at some of these artist and say that they had some other motive behind what they were actually doing when they composed the music. or even to say that they have sold their souls to the devil and are acting for him to bring mankind down into the depths of hell.  right....  but anyways it is fun to explore these things and talk about them because there is a certain part of the population that believe in these sorts of phenonmenon.  the otherone is the aliens from outerspace, the only thing that i have to contribute to that is maybe some kids/adults stayed up or watched one to many hollywood movies. it is all in good fun thought and someone could get a good laugh from it.  




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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 05:40:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? In-Reply-To: <200612021902.kB2J24Ub013321@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I don’t really believe in ESP. Kind of like what Emily was saying, there are too many times that the perceived phenomenon doesn’t happen, but you don’t remember those times. Confirmation bias. More specifically, fallacy of positive instances. Thursday’s lecture reminded me of way back in the day when Jell-O got in trouble for subliminal advertisement. It doesn’t even work. That’s the funny part. Well, I guess it works to an extent. Seems like the conclusion of the literature I checked out was that the effects are weak and short-lived, short-lived like seconds to minutes. Also, if I recall correctly, that story Dr. Strayer talked about, about the movie theater concessions, that was fake. I heard the guy lied, and the experiment was never able to be replicated. Something about he lied about the number of sales. I can’t really remember. Anyway, have a nice day. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601&tcode=wlmtagline From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 05:45:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:45:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <878017.43567.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it. Aliens? Is there other life out there? Many people would like to believe so. So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes. I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's. I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff. It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen? Weather phenomenons perhaps? Hallucinations? I tend to agree with occams razor. The simplest solution tends to be the right one. -Debra --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it.  Aliens?  Is there other life out there?  Many people would like to believe so.  So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes.  I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's.  I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff.  It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen?  Weather phenomenons perhaps?  Hallucinations?  I tend to agree with occams razor.  The simplest solution tends to be the right one.
-Debra


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 06:16:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Dogs Message-ID: <717518.42625.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs. This made me think. I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows. She pointed out the window and said "doggies!" I said "No Amy, those are cows." I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues. Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet? Can this happen in other instances? Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well. The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo." That seemed to make sense to her. And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow. The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted." From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make. But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual. Maybe not..... I'm not sure...... --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs.  This made me think.  I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows.  She pointed out the window and said "doggies!"  I said "No Amy, those are cows."  I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues.  Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet?  Can this happen in other instances?  Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well.  The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo."  That seemed to make sense to her.  And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow.  The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted."  From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make.  But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual.  Maybe not..... I'm not sure......


Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 16:18:27 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Becca Vrabel) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:18:27 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] subliminal messaging Message-ID: I don't see at all how subliminal messaging in music works. The example that Strayer used in class illustrated how there are backwards messages in the music and lyrics. I couldn't understand any of the messages so there is no way that I was influenced by them. All the sexual references in drawings or in scenes from Disney movies... those are crazy. People just seem to have too much time on their hands.... _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 17:15:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I found the lecture on parapsychology to be very interesting, especially the part on hidden messages in songs when played backwards. Something that I noticed about that segment of lecture is that I was unable to really understand the backwards messages in the songs until I could read the interpretation of what the song was. I was interested in seeing if this were true for other people, so I got a few friends and showed them the first Led Zeppelin song we looked at in class. The first time I showed them the song’s hidden message I didn’t show the lyrics, and no one really understood what said, but when I provided the lyrics the heard the message loud and clear. I think that this little study shows something about the perceptual system and how it works. It shows that when we expect to see or hear something, our brain will mold what we see or hear into something that we understand and are expecting to hear. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 19:48:27 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kari Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] thought of the week In-Reply-To: <200612041902.kB4J1Wst012355@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <10F0A00DF2B1C141ACE8EADC2FBC3641015430C5@mail.sa.utah.edu> I thought that Thursday's lecture was very interesting! I had to go home and listen to the songs backwards again to see if I could really hear the words~ it was kind of creepy because I could hear some of the words with some of the songs!!!! However, I don't think that these songs would ever influence me when played forward. -Kari Williams Kari Johnson Executive Assistant Associated Students of the University of Utah 801-581-2788(o) 801-502-7357(c) 801-581-6882(f) -----Original Message----- From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:02 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #996 - 10 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Skeptic Psychology (Darin Mano) 2. (no subject) (Lexi Breeze) 3. (no subject) (Jake Andreason) 4. Memory Erasure (Jennie Ruff) 5. (no subject) (Jacob Hansen) 6. ESP? (William Gordon) 7. parapsychology (dog_log1@yahoo.com) 8. Dogs (Kim Endersen) 9. subliminal messaging (Becca Vrabel) 10. (no subject) (tucker voss) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:57:50 -0700 From: "Darin Mano" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Psychology Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things. I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd. I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain. I think that there are things that we do not comprehend. However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people. I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant. It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen. i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there. I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things.  I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd.  I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain.  I think that there are things that we do not comprehend.  However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people.  I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant.  It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. 

It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen.  i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there.  I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Lexi Breeze" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu So this week I want to talk about subliminal messaging! I love it so much I think it is so interesting. I think the most interesting part is why they do it. If it doesn't work then why would you put this crap in your stuff? Especially the people from disney. I have seen a lot of other stuff come from disney and it's like they are supposed to be this childrens company with good wholesome values and stuff in their movies and it seems like they put a lot of subliminal crap in their movies. And there are drawings of stuff on the covers of their movies and I really just don't get why they would do that? Especially if there is a chance that people could discover what you have done and the word gets out into the public, I would think that would discourage a lot of people from taking their children to and buying their movies. Like I wonder if it's some secret thing that happens that the guy doing the animation goofs off and puts something explicit in their that no one else will really notice just because he can. And the people making all the other advertisements that we saw in class, if they are just being funny, or what? It seems like there is a lot of extra time going into putting these things in there and for no reason because you would never even notice it. Some of them are even hard to see when you know what you're looking for and you're staring right at it. And who has the time to listen to all these songs backwards and try to figure out something you can make up that it says backwards because it sounds close to it? People are weird, that's all I have to say. _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&loca le=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Jake Andreason" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thursdays lecture was pretty intersting. I don't think I'll ever look at disney movies the same way, but it was pretty funny. I have always wondered if subliminal messages actually did anything so it was kind of cool to hear about it. I personally don't think I have ever noticed any of it though. And the hidden messages in the songs is just dumb. That's just somebody with way too much time on their hands sitting there trying to make messages where theres nothing to begin with. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:/ /spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Jennie Ruff Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:46:46 -0700 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Erasure Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu At some point this week Dr. Strayer mentioned chemicals that erase parts of our memories; to be precise to erase specific memories of traumatic events. This weekend while putting off doing some homework I managed to catch a TNT showing of the movie Paycheck, which deals with erasing memories of a specific period of time. After doing some light research on Google, I found this article: http://www.sciam.com/ article.cfm?articleID=0006783F-2CFE-1FE2-ACFE83414B7FFE9F Basically, it states that while memory erasure of the kind in Paycheck is still merely speculative, it has been shown to be possible to erase several hours of memory in both humans and animals using electroshock therapy - and work with the hippocampus shows that it is possible to selectively remove animal's memories of places where they have received training! --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Jacob Hansen" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

as we talked this week in class about esp and subliminal messages i was interested in the music being played backwards.  this to me was a load of garbage for the most part.  as we have learned one cannot be influenced by something that they do not percieve. so the people who have taken the time to play these songs backward it seems very far fetched.  half of the lyrics i could not understand so how could they be influencing me? it sounds nice to point the finger at some of these artist and say that they had some other motive behind what they were actually doing when they composed the music. or even to say that they have sold their souls to the devil and are acting for him to bring mankind down into the depths of hell.  right....  but anyways it is fun to explore these things and talk about them because there is a certain part of the population that believe in these sorts of phenonmenon.  the otherone is the aliens from outerspace, the only thing that i have to contribute to that is maybe some kids/adults stayed up or watched one to many hollywood movies. it is all in good fun thought and someone could get a good laugh from it.  




JAKE
--__--__-- Message: 6 From: "William Gordon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I don't really believe in ESP. Kind of like what Emily was saying, there are too many times that the perceived phenomenon doesn't happen, but you don't remember those times. Confirmation bias. More specifically, fallacy of positive instances. Thursday's lecture reminded me of way back in the day when Jell-O got in trouble for subliminal advertisement. It doesn't even work. That's the funny part. Well, I guess it works to an extent. Seems like the conclusion of the literature I checked out was that the effects are weak and short-lived, short-lived like seconds to minutes. Also, if I recall correctly, that story Dr. Strayer talked about, about the movie theater concessions, that was fake. I heard the guy lied, and the experiment was never able to be replicated. Something about he lied about the number of sales. I can't really remember. Anyway, have a nice day. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=20060 1&tcode=wlmtagline --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: To: tech mode Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it. Aliens? Is there other life out there? Many people would like to believe so. So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes. I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's. I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff. It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen? Weather phenomenons perhaps? Hallucinations? I tend to agree with occams razor. The simplest solution tends to be the right one. -Debra --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it.  Aliens?  Is there other life out there?  Many people would like to believe so.  So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes.  I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's.  I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff.  It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen?  Weather phenomenons perhaps?  Hallucinations?  I tend to agree with occams razor.  The simplest solution tends to be the right one.
-Debra


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567-- --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) From: Kim Endersen To: Cognitive Psychology Subject: [Psych3120] Dogs Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs. This made me think. I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows. She pointed out the window and said "doggies!" I said "No Amy, those are cows." I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues. Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet? Can this happen in other instances? Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well. The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo." That seemed to make sense to her. And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow. The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted." From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make. But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual. Maybe not..... I'm not sure...... --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs.  This made me think.  I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows.  She pointed out the window and said "doggies!"  I said "No Amy, those are cows."  I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues.  Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet?  Can this happen in other instances?  Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well.  The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo."  That seemed to make sense to her.  And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow.  The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted."  From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make.  But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual.  Maybe not..... I'm not sure......


Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625-- --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Becca Vrabel" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:18:27 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] subliminal messaging Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I don't see at all how subliminal messaging in music works. The example that Strayer used in class illustrated how there are backwards messages in the music and lyrics. I couldn't understand any of the messages so there is no way that I was influenced by them. All the sexual references in drawings or in scenes from Disney movies... those are crazy. People just seem to have too much time on their hands.... _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "tucker voss" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I found the lecture on parapsychology to be very interesting, especially the part on hidden messages in songs when played backwards. Something that I noticed about that segment of lecture is that I was unable to really understand the backwards messages in the songs until I could read the interpretation of what the song was. I was interested in seeing if this were true for other people, so I got a few friends and showed them the first Led Zeppelin song we looked at in class. The first time I showed them the song's hidden message I didn't show the lyrics, and no one really understood what said, but when I provided the lyrics the heard the message loud and clear. I think that this little study shows something about the perceptual system and how it works. It shows that when we expect to see or hear something, our brain will mold what we see or hear into something that we understand and are expecting to hear. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:/ /spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 03:52:10 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology and UFO's Message-ID:


Talking about parapsychology last week was so cool.  It's fascinating how people interpret events, often making them more significant than they really are. For example my friend was out hiking in the west desert one night and he and some friends saw these red lights in the sky. He came back the next day so excited that he saw a UFO. I told him it was more likely that a bald eagle swallowed a flashlight and was flying around than an alien civilization had found a way to defy physics and travel thousands of lightyears to our planet. He scoffed and told me that if I had been there I would have thought it was a UFO as well. He might be right. I imagine that the reactions of others would bias your own interpretation. If everyone else was pointing and saying "check that out" "it couldn't be anything but aliens" I might buy into it.

Reed Dow



Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:25:08 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kasey lundgren) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:25:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] modes posting Message-ID: <456200.40940.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ok so i totally believe in the whole parapsychology thing ha ha. I always have, how is there not any other species out there besides us and how have they not been here yet. I pretty much believe everything about area 51 and Roswell.....even though there are logical explanations for it all i still think there is something pretty fishing going on around those parts. I just think whenever there is that much talk and suspicion about anything in the world most likely something happened along those lines.....it has probably been re-worded and bits and pieces have been added throughout the years but something crazy defiantly happened. I also believe in SOME psychics and people you read tarot cards and fortunes. .. i know my mother my step mother and myself have all had some pretty intense readings that speak of very specific things that someone could not have just made up or generalized about us, plus i think it is fun to believe in that stuff and have a little faith in the unknown --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
ok so i totally believe in the whole parapsychology thing ha ha. I always have, how is there
not any other species out there besides us and how have they not been here yet. I
pretty much believe everything about area 51 and Roswell.....even though there are logical
explanations for it all i still think there is something pretty fishing going on around those
parts. I just think whenever there is that much talk and suspicion about anything in the world
most likely something happened along those lines.....it has probably been re-worded and
bits and pieces have been added throughout the years but something crazy defiantly
happened. I also believe in SOME psychics and people you read tarot cards and fortunes.
.. i know my mother my step mother and myself have all had some pretty intense readings
that speak of very specific things that someone could not have just made up or generalized
about us, plus i think it is fun to believe in that stuff and have a little faith in the unknown


Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:40:55 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Messege for the Board Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612042040r51fc8a19x75a807fc9ed03589@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello! In regards to parapsychology and skepticism, I was wondering how accademic experts say that religion/God/a Higher Power fits into al of this. My husband is in Evolutionary Biology getting his PhD, and I know that there are virtually no Christians in that field. Scientists are skeptics by nature--and in practice. Therefore, it would be very important to be skeptical of something that one cannot see or touch. Miracles are another thing that would then be considered parapsychology-- there are other explanations for them, all other evidence around it seems false, no physical evidence can support it, etc. I would've liked to hear Dr. Strayer talk about this...but it's a way touchy subject. If it's just parapsychology then millions of people are basing their life on something that does not exist. Few people are able to go there, except for those in the New Atheism Movement-- a movement that is full of skeptic scientists... Emily Slager ------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello!
    In regards to parapsychology and skepticism, I was wondering how accademic experts say that religion/God/a Higher Power fits into al of this.  My husband is in Evolutionary Biology getting his PhD, and I know that there are virtually no Christians in that field.  Scientists are skeptics by nature--and in practice.  Therefore, it would be very important to be skeptical of something that one cannot see or touch.  Miracles are another thing that would then be considered parapsychology-- there are other explanations for them, all other evidence around it seems false, no physical evidence can support it, etc. 
    I would've liked to hear Dr. Strayer talk about this...but it's a way touchy subject.  If it's just parapsychology then millions of people are basing their life on something that does not exist.  Few people are able to go there, except for those in the New Atheism Movement-- a movement that is full of skeptic scientists...
     Emily Slager
------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:54:11 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:54:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology and me. Message-ID: <20061205045411.44731.qmail@web55401.mail.re4.yahoo.com> it's kind of funny. we encounter this crap all the time. my boyfriend's car broke down in the marriot parking lot and was there for 2 days. we finally got it started, and we thought we had fixed the problem. he drove it around for a few days and there was no problem. on sunday night, i get a call from him and he's at the marriot...with a broken down car...again. i caught myself telling him "okay. now what did we learn?? no driving your car to the marriot. see what happens when you do?" but that's not true. it could have happened any time, any place. it just happened to happen at the marriot. TWICE. so whatever. but why do we resort to reasoning like that? why is it that we (well...so many of us) are so faulty in our judgement that we are quick to say silly things like that....and believe them?! (i mean..i don't honestly believe that the marriot is cursed. seriously. i don't.) but i just don't understand why that is the default in so many of us... sabreena ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 06:26:08 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Brett Larsen) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:26:08 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] other subliminal Message-ID: I know we talked about some subliminal messages in the disney movie the lion king this week in class but we did not talk about some of the other movies that disney did this. You might think i am a little weird for know this but i think the little mermaid is the worst one. On the cover of the old vhs there is a very large phallic symbol in the background and it also says sex in the water bubbles. I believe they actually changed the cover when it went to dvd because of the controversy. During the movie towards the end the priest that is marrying the prince to the evil witch gets an erection underneath his robe. Also in Aladdin in the very beginning when the vendor in riding in on the camel in his shadow he is flipping everyone off. Apu the monkey also says the S word three times during the movie. Then there is the scene on the balcony that disney actually got in trouble for. When raja the tiger is trying to get Aladdin to leave by growling at him, Aladdin very quietly says "take off your clothes" to jasmine. disney claims he was saying "take off and go" to the tiger but it really doesn't sound like it. I think it is really funny that disney, a company aimed towards family entertainment would put things in their movies like this. It seems they were doing it for a while before they actually got in trouble for it. Those artists must have been pretty board and a little messed up to put such things in kids movies. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 06:58:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:58:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsych Message-ID: ------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not happy about having to miss the lecture on Thurs. because it seems it was most interesting. The subject of parapsychology intrigues me very much so, mainly because my family is a lil crazy and a few of my uncles and aunts claim to have seen plenty of ghosts. Then there's also my sister who would often get strange "feelings" prior to peculiar and often, not very good situations. Personally, I'm very skeptic about the whole theme, specially of foretelling the future. I've had my palm as well as the tarot cards read and whatever I was told in both of those instances could not have been more far away from the truth which leads me to believe they simply go off on the person's reactions and hope they're right. ------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

I was not happy about having to miss the lecture on Thurs. because it seems it was most interesting. The subject of parapsychology intrigues me very much so, mainly because my family is a lil crazy and a few of my uncles and aunts claim to have seen plenty of ghosts. Then there's also my sister who would often get strange "feelings" prior to peculiar and often, not very good situations. Personally, I'm very skeptic about the whole theme, specially of foretelling the future. I've had my palm as well as the tarot cards read and whatever I was told in both of those instances could not have been more far away from the truth which leads me to believe they simply go off on the person's reactions and hope they're right.

------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 10:03:07 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aubrey Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:03:07 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] so what's your sign? In-Reply-To: <200612041902.kB4J223u012362@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:


I thought Thursday's lecture was super interesting. It fascinates me to think about the sheer number of people that believe in one or more aspect of parapsychology. I liked Dr. Strayer's warning to us to be skeptical in everything. It reminded me of this lady I used to work with, who decided to do an astrological reading for me for my birthday.  ... thanks. and she put together this whole chart and told me about the planets and alignment and all of that and how my moons affected me and make me such a walking contradiction. But honestly, I think the whole issue with horoscopes and zodiac signs, is that the characteristics they pinpoint for each sign, can generally be found in some small part in everybody. If they're saying "you are this way because you are born on this day," you'll automatically think about characteristics or events in your life that would be synoymous with that statement, because that's at the forefront of your mind. But that's just my take on it. And the concept of Zodiac signs is still pretty interesting, despite this.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 17:42:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:42:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] final review Message-ID: <20061205174226.56807.qmail@web55405.mail.re4.yahoo.com> i think eve has asked us to mention when would be a good time to get together for the final review. personally, the best time for me would be during class time...otherwise, i work all week in the evenings. sabreena ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:00:40 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:00:40 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Messege for the Board #13 Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612051100h174d79axb0cb021e8c5c925d@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All! Today's video was fantastic! People are very very ready to believe what they are seeing/hearing when they go to a Spiritual Healing Crusade or Psychic. People do not go into them with skeptical minds. This means they are not asking the important questions that will lead them to the Truth. Furthermore, the host of the show was great. He really understood that people want to believe these things. But he also gave Scientific Method measures to test them. He isolated a variable, had a double-blind experiment, discounted for chance alone, etc. Scientifically, these claims do not work (as most of us very humorously saw). Also, like Dr. Strayer said, there are OFTEN OTHER EXPLANATIONS for why the "paranormal" occur. Emily ------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All!
    Today's video was fantastic!  People are very very ready to believe what they are seeing/hearing when they go to a Spiritual Healing Crusade or Psychic.  People do not go into them with skeptical minds.  This means they are not asking the important questions that will lead them to the Truth.  Furthermore, the host of the show was great.  He really understood that people want to believe these things.  But he also gave Scientific Method measures to test them.  He isolated a variable, had a double-blind experiment, discounted for chance alone, etc.  Scientifically, these claims do not work (as most of us very humorously saw).  Also, like Dr. Strayer said, there are OFTEN OTHER EXPLANATIONS for why the "paranormal" occur. 
    Emily
------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:20:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kevin Mangum) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:20:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <20061205192049.55755.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Parapsychology is the study of certain types of paranormal phenomena (parapsychology comes from the Greek para, “beside, beyond,” + psychology, derived from the Greek psyche, “soul, mind,” + logos “rational discussion”). The term was coined by Max Dessoir (1889). J. B. Rhine adopted it to refer to the scientific study of paranormal phenomena which are manifestations of psi. According to The Parapsychological Association, an organization affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science[4] Parapsychological phenomena can be categorized thus: These [paranormal] anomalies fall into three general categories: ESP[...] [Extra-Sensory Perception], PK [Psychokinesis], and phenomena suggestive of survival after bodily death, including near-death experiences, apparitions, and reincarnation. Most parapsychologists today expect that further research will eventually explain these anomalies in scientific terms, although it is not clear whether they can be fully understood without significant (some might say revolutionary) expansions of the current state of scientific knowledge. Other researchers take the stance that existing scientific models of perception and memory are adequate to explain some or all Parapsychological phenomena. [links not in original] --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Parapsychology is the study of certain types of paranormal phenomena (parapsychology comes from the Greek para, “beside, beyond,” + psychology, derived from the Greek psyche, “soul, mind,” + logos “rational discussion”). The term was coined by Max Dessoir (1889). J. B. Rhine adopted it to refer to the scientific study of paranormal phenomena which are manifestations of psi. According to The Parapsychological Association, an organization affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science[4] Parapsychological phenomena can be categorized thus:
These [paranormal] anomalies fall into three general categories: ESP[...] [Extra-Sensory Perception], PK [Psychokinesis], and phenomena suggestive of survival after bodily death, including near-death experiences, apparitions, and reincarnation. Most parapsychologists today expect that further research will eventually explain these anomalies in scientific terms, although it is not clear whether they can be fully understood without significant (some might say revolutionary) expansions of the current state of scientific knowledge. Other researchers take the stance that existing scientific models of perception and memory are adequate to explain some or all Parapsychological phenomena. [links not in original]
 


Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:58:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Benjamin Divine) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:58:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Overly Skeptical? Message-ID: <310270.28260.qm@web42101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What an interesting video that was on skepticism and the paranormal! I have always thought of myself as a skeptic and critic of the unexplained but the man in the video (can't remember his name) takes the cake! It seems as though he will never be able to be convinced of something unless he can find an alternate method (which is a rule for applying skepticism for any matter) to mimic the same procedure. Although I was not convinced by any form of paranormal activity attempted in the video, I do wonder if always having a skeptical mindset is primarily beneficiary. In other words, is their a difference from being an extreme skeptic to having an open mind regarding any issue? Of course, these are two separate matters but it seems to me that by being overly skeptical one may have already formed a negative bias towards something they are trying to disprove thus eliminating search for reasons against their opinion. It may work both ways here... I wonder if the man in the video is religious in any way. If so, would he ever try and disprove his own beliefs in a so called "controlled experimental setting?" --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What an interesting video that was on skepticism and the paranormal!  I have always thought of myself as a skeptic and critic of the unexplained but the man in the video (can't remember his name) takes the cake!  It seems as though he will never be able to be convinced of something unless he can find an alternate method (which is a rule for applying skepticism for any matter) to mimic the same procedure.  Although I was not convinced by any form of paranormal activity attempted in the video, I do wonder if always having a skeptical mindset is primarily beneficiary.  In other words, is their a difference from being an extreme skeptic to having an open mind regarding any issue?  Of course, these are two separate matters but it seems to me that by being overly skeptical one may have already formed a negative bias towards something they are trying to disprove thus eliminating search for reasons against their opinion.  It may work both ways here... I wonder if the man in the video is religious in any way.  If so, would he ever try and disprove his own beliefs in a so called "controlled experimental setting?"


Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 20:15:28 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jolene stehlin) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: The video we watched today was really interesting, and amusing. I admit I was one of the 3 in 4 Americans who believed they have had a psychic experience, although I would never actually call myself psychic in any way, shape or form. Though some "psychic" abilities seems to be amazing, I have attributed them mostly to coincidence in the past. After seeing that video I will continue to do so. During the video I was thinking about these individuals who claim to be psychic, like the spoon-bender who was on Carson. That was evidence enough for me that it was a scam. It made me wonder though, is he just crazy and starving for attention. Why risk being exposed on national television? Maybe he's so nuts that he actually believed he was doing it. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 20:58:30 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:58:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly posting Message-ID: I really enjoyed this subject about the supernatural, I kind of suspected that I shouldn't believe any of that stuff but I was always curious about it. Now I don't believe its true because I know how our mind works a little bit better now. still while discrediting certain phenomena, i think it was done in a very simplistic way, Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk..atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 22:01:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Video In-Reply-To: <200612051911.kB5JBEhq026420@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
It was awesome today seeing all of the psychic people looking stupid. That guy makes them feel so uncomfortable because they know that he is disproving them. The most funny thing I saw was when the two Russian women were looking at a picture of Ted Bundy and they were having a hard time because they were not recieving any feedback. After the man told them about Ted Bundy the Russian women were trying to say things that they never really said, and that what they said must have meant something different. This whole movie showed me that humans are so easily entranced in the paranormal. We want to believe in mystical powers, and we will pay money to hear people act like they have these powers. It is sad to see that the mans work has not been well recepted because I think it is very interesting.
 
Kyle Murdock


Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 23:35:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:35:26 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology movie (Romney Stevens) Message-ID: <20061205173526.xc2ov01nokw4wkwo@wm.integrity.com> I thought the movie in class today was very entertaining. One thing that I thought was interesting is that the man who had been a palm reader ended up being a psychologist. When he was "reading palms" of people who actually believed he had a psychic ablility it made me start wondering if those with a background in cognitive psychology would be especially effective "psychics". I am not condoning the practice of tricking people into believing that one has psychic powers, in fact I would consider it unethical. It just seems to me that people who have a knowledge of how the brain works and how it tries to draw conclusions from the perceptions of the environment would be better able to perform such trickery. Those with a background in psychology would also know what rules of perception they would be able to use to their advantage in order to provide the desired illusions. That's just one more practical, but inethical, use of the things we are learning in class. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 00:08:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alan richmond) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:08:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology movie Message-ID: <20061206000825.39538.qmail@web50314.mail.yahoo.com> Today's movie about "testing" the claims of these people with supposed powers was kind of interesting to me. I was glad to see someone actually out there being skeptical about these phenomenon. I would say that I believe in a higher power and that there are things that do occur that we can't explain or that we necessarily understand but when people go about making false claims about having the ability to heal or having the ability to read peoples minds, or predict the future and they are out there taking advantage of people I think that it hurts every one because the ability to trust others is diminished every time that one of these charlatans is found out. Any ways I would just like to say thst I had fun with this class this semester and that I learned alot from it. Thank you to Eve and Professor Strayer for an interesting class. Alan Richmond ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 06:09:04 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Becca Vrabel) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:09:04 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: The video that we watched in class today was awesome! I have never been a believer in the supernatural or psychic reading abilities...now I am even less of a believer than I was before. The part about the "charged" water and changing levels of BP was all crap! Not a single scientist knew how to operate the blood pressure machine and the basis of their experimenting was blood pressure. Its ridiculous that these people profit so greatly from taking advantage of believers. Lame. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 17:39:36 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:39:36 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] movie Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C71922.D34CD9C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C71922.D34CD9C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C71922.D34CD9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought the movie yesterday was really enjoyable. I thought that it was interesting when the weird looking student told the dr. that he felt his work was biased. The dr. responded with the fact that you can never disprove a negative. You can't prove that these "illusions" are not real, just that there may be another alternative explanation. I think that is where the skeptical aspect comes in for me. I think you should look at things with that skeptical eye. There may always be another way to explain things! Few things in life are black and white. I also liked the discussion on horoscopes and religious healers. For some people, they may need the extra emotional boost from believing in this parapsychology. The people all had the same exact horoscope but all claimed it described them well. I think we are looking for validation in what we do. We are all just looking for someone to understand us. We don't necessarily need to be right, but we all need to be understood. The sad part is that, especially with the "Healing Reverend", many people take advantage of that basic need we have. 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I thought the movie yesterday was = really enjoyable. I thought that it was interesting when the weird looking = student told the dr. that he felt his work was biased. The dr. responded with the = fact that you can never disprove a negative. You can’t prove that these = “illusions” are not real, just that there may be another alternative explanation. I = think that is where the skeptical aspect comes in for me. I think you should = look at things with that skeptical eye. There may always be another way to = explain things! Few things in life are black and white. I also liked the = discussion on horoscopes and religious healers. For some people, they may need the = extra emotional boost from believing in this parapsychology.  The people all had = the same exact horoscope but all claimed it described them well. I think we are = looking for validation in what we do. We are all just looking for someone to = understand us. We don’t necessarily need to be right, but we all need to be understood. The sad part is that, especially with the “Healing = Reverend”, many people take advantage of that basic need we have. Hopefully, if = nothing else, our expensive education has taught us now to be skeptical. =

 

 

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It is good to = see people who are using parapsychological beliefs to exploit others for = profit being called to task. However, several postings this week have = focused on some of the negative aspects of being overly skeptical. I = agree that being overly skeptial can bias someone to invalidate other = people's beliefs. Always using science to try to disprove = parapsychological beliefs may detract from asking what functions such = beliefs may have. For example, do they result in social cohesion among = the believers? do they result in a frame-work that is used to explain = the "unexplainable" thereby creating a sense of order in the universe? = do they provide moral structure for individuals to follow? The fact = that many ideas of parapsychology (religion included) cannot be tested = by scientific methods need not mean that they are invalid. What may be = important to the believer is not that there is no evidence for his = beliefs, but that these beliefs have moral value for him or her. They = provide a way of living that makes sense to the believer. After all, = science is only one way of making sense of the universe, and any good = scientist should know that science does not necessarily prove anything = either. It only states what is most probable. Thus science itself may = not always be the best answer. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71975.3693C759 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I also thought that the = movie on Tuesday was interesting.  It is good to see people who are = using parapsychological beliefs to exploit others for profit being = called to task.  However, several postings this week have focused = on some of the negative aspects of being overly skeptical.  I agree = that being overly skeptial can bias someone to invalidate other people's = beliefs.  Always using science to try to = disprove parapsychological beliefs may detract = from asking what functions such beliefs may have.  For = example, do they result in social cohesion among the believers? do they = result in a frame-work that is used to explain the "unexplainable" = thereby creating a sense of order in the universe? do they provide = moral structure for individuals to follow?  The fact that many = ideas of parapsychology (religion included) cannot be tested by = scientific methods need not mean that they are invalid.  What may = be important to the believer is not that there is no evidence for his = beliefs, but that these beliefs have moral value for him or = her.  They provide a way of living that makes sense to = the believer.  After all, science is only one way of = making sense of the universe, and any good scientist should know = that science does not necessarily prove anything either.  It only = states what is most probable.  Thus science itself may not always = be the best answer.  
------_=_NextPart_001_01C71975.3693C759-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 21:14:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:14:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <279654.11231.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> well, i thought this weeks movie and last weeks lecture were very interesting. I, for one, believe in some forms of paranormal activity (not cropcircles or psychics). Everyone has a "sixth sense", its the feeling you get in the pit of your stomach that guides your decision making and behavior in certain situations. It helps you decided when something feels wrong, or when it feels right. I've also had my own experiences with things that go bump in the night, and I'm not talking about literal bumping, I mean coming face to face with a very solid-looking human being that vanished before my eyes. I actually had my fiance with me (who I thought was asleep), but when HE reacted to it first, I knew I wasn't seeing things. How do ya explain that? I wasn't "searching" for "human features", it was a solid, human being who came around the corner, strolled through the living room and before he reached the kitchen, he dissipated. We checked the whole house (which is a small house) and we were the only one's there. We didn't feed off of eachother, either. It was quite creepy, and to this day, I won't go in my parents kitchen alone at night. So how do you explain something like that? If only I had had a camera! But even then, thats not considered significant evidence. I don't know...I believe in what I've seen with my very own eyes...and I'm skeptical. I try to find every other possible explanation before I decide theres something ELSE going on. Has anybody else had an experience like this? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 05:17:59 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (ryan green) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:17:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Over and Out... Message-ID: <552803.34785.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-532795777-1165468679=:34785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear All, I hope everyone has enjoyed fall semester 2006! It's been an interesting ride; from perception to the paranormal. As we were learning a bit about parapsychology, I began to wonder why we, that is, people in general, are so fascinated by the "out-of-this-world", the supernatural and the metaphysical. And I said to myself something that went like this, "There must be something fundamentally attractive about it. And if there is something that is essentially attractive to us about it, then it's reasonable to think that supernatural phenomenona are fundamental parts to our existence." And if this is true, it makes sense that there are so many charlatans out there trying to make a buck off of something pure that we necessarily seek. Just like material necessities and fake Rolexes. Just like the sanctity of sexuality and pornography. Just like truth and lies. In the world we live in, every thesis has its antithesis. The antithesis is there to confuse our paths and distort reality. But, I hope that despite the fact that there are charlatans out there crouching like lions waiting to devour whomever they may, that everyone will continue to seek that which is pure and essential! Because, without the pure and essential, we are tragically lacking and fragmented. Happy Advent Season! Ryan Green --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-532795777-1165468679=:34785 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear All,
 
I hope everyone has enjoyed fall semester 2006! It's been an interesting ride; from perception to the paranormal. As we were learning a bit about parapsychology, I began to wonder why we, that is, people in general, are so fascinated by the "out-of-this-world", the supernatural and the metaphysical. And I said to myself something that went like this, "There must be something fundamentally attractive about it. And if there is something that is essentially attractive to us about it, then it's reasonable to think that supernatural phenomenona are fundamental parts to our existence." And if this is true, it makes sense that there are so many charlatans out there trying to make a buck off of something pure that we necessarily seek. Just like material necessities and fake Rolexes. Just like the sanctity of sexuality and pornography. Just like truth and lies. In the world we live in, every thesis has its antithesis. The antithesis is there to confuse our paths and distort reality. But, I hope that despite the fact that there are charlatans out there crouching like lions waiting to devour whomever they may, that everyone will continue to seek that which is pure and essential! Because, without the pure and essential, we are tragically lacking and fragmented.   
 
Happy Advent Season!
Ryan Green


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thay video we watched cracked me up. he was so cynical and skeptical about everything.. and his sarcastic humor killed me. I enjoyed watching him make a fool of people claiming to possess paranormal power of some type. however, someone commented that his negative bias toward the world might be detrimental. I would have to agree with that. in my psychology of love class we learned that people are happier when they are basically wearing their rose-colored glasses. whether what they believe is true is not the important part. it's their perception of the world that allows them to be content with it. I think a constant skeptical outlook might make you feel like a hard-nosed realist, but it could also make you feel depressed, because the world sort of loses its mystery or wonder. but that's just my two bits.



From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:12:33 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:12:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fine Movements Message-ID: I was sitting in class the other day taking notes and it got me thinking about how amazing it is that we have such fine motor control to write like we do. We are able to take a small utensil and write a desired object that we want. I think there are so many processes that we perform on a daily basis without really thinking about how amazing and complex it is. I notice more and more abilities that I'm able to perform with ease, that are just awesome if you think about them in depth. I mean being able to write this message is perfect example of a complex process that is taken for granted. _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:30:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Problem Space Message-ID: After reading about problem space it got me thinking about how much I do this. When problem solving I always look at all the possible configurations that a problem could take. By looking at all the possibilities you are able to see many more solutions. Once you really understand and use this mode of thinking I feel that it aids you coming to a solution more rapidly. I love to read about processes in problem solving. I don't know if its because of this or if it just came naturally, but I can very easily solve like lind games and puzzles like the Tower of Hanoi puzzle. I find that I can see solution faster than my friends with little mind teasers games. All I know is that I am very glad to have my interest in the mind, logic, and problem solving and I am definitely going to further my knowledge on these topics. _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:47:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:47:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The Human Mind Message-ID: The other day my friend, who is some kind of computer major, was going on and on about how incredible computers are and much they can do. But after hearing him ramble on it made me realize just how amazing the human mind is! I mean, you can create anything in your mind. People think computers are amazing but computers are absolutely nothing compared to the human mind. Right now you can construct anything you desire in your mind. You can picture an object and and rotate it, twist it, turn it, and flip it with little effort. Computers have virtual tours of apartments and houses that can take you through a floor plan of a house. As you sit looking at the computer you can close your eyes and construct your house and mentally walk through every room in your mind. It is truly unbelievable that you can do things like this with such ease and on demand. I am just so blown away at what you can do with your mind. After my friend finally stopped with the worshipping of computer I shed a little light on just how insignificant computers are compared to the human mind. After I was done sharing my two sense he had nothing left to even say. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 20:44:31 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paul Rudd) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology - interpreting events In-Reply-To: <200612071911.kB7JAmnL024838@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <491614.81673.qm@web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> People use their own core schema's to decide how to interpret an event. So if the event is someone at a seance trying to contact the dead, chances are that the person will interpret any cue in the environment as a form of contact. When in actuality those creaky floor boards aren't your dead aunt Edna trying to communicate with the living. All events really are biased and judged according to someones core belief system. However, if your aunt Edna really is trying to communicate with you, just make sure that it's really happening and it's not your interpretation. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 22:19:51 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:19:51 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Tuesday's Video Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612071419s12fb572bk95783cc5f216e360@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought that the video was interesting. I actually thought that the most interesting part of the video was that guy. I was suprised at how dedicated he is to making sense of the mystical things. It was interesting to me. On a side note, it remineded me of the movie the prestige. that is also about illusions and things. Anyway, I thought is was cool that he was able to understnad all those things. I am not suprided about how many people believe in things that are supernatural. Essentially, anyone that is religious believes in something supernatural. I am interested in how that survey was taken though. anyway, this was a worthless posting. I have really enjoyed this class. I was really hesitant about taking cognitive psychology. I thought that it was going to be really borign and about memorizing parts of the brain or what not. I am glad that I was able to take it. I hope that I will be able to learn more about it in the future. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought that the video was interesting.  I actually thought that the most interesting part of the video was that guy.  I was suprised at how dedicated he is to making sense of the mystical things.  It was interesting to me.  On a side note, it remineded me of the movie the prestige.  that is also about illusions and things.  Anyway,  I thought is was cool that he was able to understnad all those things.  I am not suprided about how many people believe in things that are supernatural.  Essentially, anyone that is religious believes in something supernatural.  I am interested in how that survey was taken though.

anyway, this was a worthless posting.  I have really enjoyed this class.  I was really hesitant about taking cognitive psychology.  I thought that it was going to be really borign and about memorizing parts of the brain or what not.  I am glad that I was able to take it.  I hope that I will be able to learn more about it in the future.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 08:49:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] paranormal occurences and objectivity In-Reply-To: <200612071911.kB7JAmnL024838@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
 
I have certainly experienced odd things before, and while it is happening, I'm sure there is something paranormal taking place. When I leave the heat of the moment, however, I usually try to think about what happened and come up with various ideas for the cause. Once we were in my friend's basement and we heard the front door open upstairs, then footsteps crossed the house, then the back door opened and shut. My friend grabbed his gun and we carefully checked it out. Oddly, both the front and back doors were still shut and locked, there were no cars in the driveway, and nobody nearby. My friend told me about how another time he was in his basement and heard a closet open upstairs and footsteps, but nobody else was in the house. He was sure it was a ghost, and at the time I was also sure. As I thought about it though, over time, I began wondering if there were any other possible causes. I thought about it more and thought that surely another explanation would be more likely and plausible. Perhaps his mom, dad or sister had walked through the house, locking the doors behind them, before going on an errand or something. It would be even more likely that a crazy person was wandering around aimlessly and happened to walk through the house, locking the doors behind him, than an apparation. I think people tend to come to conclusions quickly, and often these conclusions deserve to be re-evaluated while in a more objective state.
 
Reed
 


Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 16:44:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Radley) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:44:29 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] More on paranormal psychology Message-ID: --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was interested to see the inclusion of ESP cards on the class slides. Wh= en I first saw we were going to be discussing paranormal psychology, my tho= ughts immediately turned to Ghostbusters. I never really gave much thought= to the fact that people do experiments like Bill Murray was conducting in = the films opening. I think it would be interesting to see if anyone has do= ne any experiments similar to the one done in the film. Maybe it was based= on actual experiments in ESP. I think it would be interesting to particip= ate in an experiment like that one. I think I am pretty good at guessing. = Maybe I'm actually part psychic. How does one find out if you have ESP? = Is it only through one of these tests? _________________________________________________________________ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Liv= e Toolbar Today! http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview= --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was interested to see the inclusion of ESP cards on the class slide= s.  When I first saw we were going to be discussing paranormal psychol= ogy, my thoughts immediately turned to Ghostbusters.  I never really g= ave much thought to the fact that people do experiments like Bill Murray wa= s conducting in the films opening.  I think it would be interesting to= see if anyone has done any experiments similar to the one done in the film= .  Maybe it was based on actual experiments in ESP.  I think it w= ould be interesting to participate in an experiment like that one.  I = think I am pretty good at guessing.  Maybe I'm actually part psychic.&= nbsp; How does one find out if you have ESP?  Is it only through one o= f these tests?

Search from any Web page with powerful protection= . Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! Try it now! = --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 19:50:21 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Katie) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Hypnogogic hallucinations Message-ID: <4E9A09E16264024C80C968D5CFCCB7AB041C5D@xeoni.digitalbreakdown.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've always been pretty interested in the phenomenon of hypnogogic = hallucinations, the sometimes odd and hard to explain things that happen = to some people during the stages of falling to sleep or waking from = sleep. This is usually the scientific way to explain ghosts and alien = encounters that people report during the night. Sometimes sleep = paralysis can also occur during these vivid dream-like experiences, = which makes it seem even more frightening and real to people.=20 =20 My husband claims to have experienced this, and insists he's seen aliens = standing in the corner of the room (but oddly they haven't been back = since I've been around). I've explained the hynogogic state and what = happens to the mind and brain waves and how it accounts for what people = see and hear during these times, but I really think he wants to believe. = He affectionately calls them "the greys" and says that they are the = good, nice aliens. It's pretty funny.=20 =20 Katie Johnson =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I've always been pretty = interested in the phenomenon of hypnogogic hallucinations, the sometimes = odd and hard to explain things that happen to some people during the = stages of falling to sleep or waking from sleep. This is usually = the scientific way to explain ghosts and alien encounters that people = report during the night. Sometimes sleep paralysis can also occur during = these vivid dream-like experiences, which makes it seem even more = frightening and real to people.
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My husband claims to = have experienced this, and insists he's seen aliens standing in = the corner of the room (but oddly they haven't = been back since I've been around). I've explained the = hynogogic state and what happens to the mind and brain waves and = how it accounts for what people see and hear during these times, but = I really think he wants to believe. He affectionately calls them = "the greys" and says that they are the good, nice aliens. It's = pretty funny.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 21:32:55 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:32:55 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The end of class In-Reply-To: <200612081903.kB8J3Ps2008966@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
Hey guys I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the class this year. I really liked how detailed all of the information was. Dr. Strayer is also really good at answering any questions that we may have. He really knows his stuff and I really appreciate that from a professor because sometimes they don't really know what they are talking about. I especially liked learning about perception and all of the things to do with the eye. Well good luck to everyone on the final!!!
 
Kyle Murdock


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I found that movie we watched this week very interesti= ng. I like seeing someone do something that would seem to be impossible and= then finding out how they really do it. I found it interesting though how = it is that some people instead of knowing that it is not real that they are= really just manipulating you believe that what the person is doing is real= . The Isreal guy who had so many people believe that he could read their mi= nds and know what he was thinking and even when it was shown that he really= couldn't do it people still believed in him still. When he went to Russia = where people were going to see the people claiming to have special powers i= nstead of seeing real doctors just amazed me. I could never imagine living = like that. It is just amazing what people will believe in so they can = have answers to their questions even though the answers may not be real and instead or dec= eiving.

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Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1535847535-1165700075=:78702-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 06:02:27 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ryan Boldrin) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:02:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final comment. In-Reply-To: <200612091902.kB9J225Y023820@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20061210060227.44982.qmail@web53610.mail.yahoo.com> I too have enjoyed the class. It brought a lot of distant Ideas together for me. I would like to continue to study these topics in the future. I have been studying the ideas of lucid dreaming for many years now. Some people (with practice) can enter into a state where they are consciously aware that they are dreaming while still engaged in the dream state. They are then able to control the events of the dream and create objects or have people appear in their dream at will. I have only been able to achieve this a handful of times but it is a sublime experience to say the least. There are many avenues of the mind that have not yet been explored... I sincerely wish you well on the final. Good Bye. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 18:05:58 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paige) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:05:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to say good luck on the test!! Also, how much I enjoyed the class. How Dr. Strayer presented his class in a way that was possible to actually learn what he was teaching. I think my favorite section was memory and how it all comes together. Learning all of that has helped figure out how to study more effectively and why. Thank you all on the message board for helping me better understand some concepts, and for helping me prepare for the tests. I wish you all the best of luck on the final exam. Also, Happy Winter Solstice!!!-Paige Baucom _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://dell.myway.com --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just wanted to say good luck on the test!! Also, how much I enjoyed the class. How Dr. Strayer presented his class in a way that was possible to actually learn what he was teaching. I think my favorite section was memory and how it all comes together. Learning all of that has helped figure out how to study more effectively and why. Thank you all on the message board for helping me better understand some concepts, and for helping me prepare for the tests. I wish you all the best of luck on the final exam. Also, Happy Winter Solstice!!!
-Paige Baucom




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--MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 19:45:37 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:45:37 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I thought that that movie was a good way to end the class. I liked seeing these “psychics” getting called out on their powers. It really helps make the point that there are explanations for the things that happen; only sometimes it is hard to come up with that explanation. I must say though it is fun to see tricks that you have no idea how they work, but then again I guess the fun part is figuring out how the trick is done. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 20:41:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lexi Breeze) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Hey! So for this week I thought I would just comment on the movie that we watched in class. I think it's awesome that the guy makes his living spilling other people's secrets, and the guy on The Late Show that got set up was hilarious. But it made me wonder why people get so upset when he shows them that they are really just fooling others. Like at that doctors office or the two psychic ladies. I think the main issue is that people are making their livings off of fooling others into believing what they do is real, and if they are put out in the open they won't be making such a great living anymore. But for other people who aren't actually doing it and just participating in it, I think it's more that they want something to believe in. I think the world would be too dull and depressing if there weren't mystical and spiritual things for people to have faith, hope and beliefs in. Therefore, they don't want you to screw this up for them, and they are going to be in denial when you do. They want to keep themselves going and hopeful so they need to hold on to whatever does that for them. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 23:45:42 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jake Andreason) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:45:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I just wanted to say good luck on the test to everyone. I've enjoyed this class and I thought the way the material was pesented made it enjoyable. For me this class has really got me interested in a few topics. I would like to continue reading up on human factors engineering. I think it's really interesting how this knowledge can determine the sucess of a product. It's been fun. _________________________________________________________________ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 00:44:34 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jacob Hansen) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:


well it has been a great semester and i am so glad to be done with all of these e mails. who ever knew it would be so hard to remember sending of one silly e mail each week.  i am glad that i only missed four of them and not more.  but i am getting ready for the test this next week and will be so excited to be done with that as well, but most importantly for all of those who do not go to the review sessions i want to encourage you to attend because eve puts on a great show and helps with solving the essay questions brilliantly.  the movie that we watched was so amusing this last week especially when the guy from israel who could bend the spoons was on the tonight show and basically was shown how fraud he was. the most interesting part about that is he still had a very large following after that. i guess like they said in the movie is true we as humans want to believe what we want to and there is  no substitution for that.  thank you for the great semester




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 01:38:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:38:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] the end. Message-ID: <137374.93385.qm@web55410.mail.re4.yahoo.com> all right, y'all. here we are; at the end. the class has been really great. it started out pretty easy for me, as i took sensation and perception. so a lot of what we learned in the beginning was a piece of cake. that quickly changed, though. and i'm happysome for that, indeed. we learned some pretty neat stuff that i was certainly able to use in conversation...haha. thank you everyone for the great questions in class and the thoughtful posts. one last question..is it just me, or does it seem like we didn't get that much information to answer these last study guide questions?? alas, it's probably just me focusing too heavily on that light at the end of the tunnel. ciao ciao. sabreena.khan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 02:56:44 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kasey lundgren) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] final posting Message-ID: <753414.27263.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit so i thought for my last posting i would just comment on my overall feelings about the class. I really liked taking this class this semester. when i first got in it i was scared that it would be so hard and boring but dr.strayer made this class very very interesting and fun. i thought his lessons were very thought out and explained well. the test were hard but they defiantly covered everything in class and there were no surprises when it came to the test, he always made it clear what was going to be on the test. Eve did a great job as the TA and her review sessions were so helpful i appreciated everything so much. i hope everyone does well on the final! peace! --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
so i thought for my last posting i would just comment on my overall feelings about the
class. I really liked taking this class this semester. when i first got in it i was scared that
it would be so hard and boring but dr.strayer made this class very very interesting and
fun. i thought his lessons were very thought out and explained well. the test were hard but
they defiantly covered everything in class and there were no surprises when it came
to the test, he always made it clear what was going to be on the test. Eve did a great
job as the TA and her review sessions were so helpful i appreciated everything so much.
i hope everyone does well on the final! peace!


Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 03:01:51 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:01:51 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The ability to believe In-Reply-To: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <974DA23A-E99E-458B-B0A5-0B63F406A51C@impulsion-sim.com> In our discussion of parapsychology, I was surprised that there wasn't a section on human belief in a divine being. Gods are technically "supernatural" beings, and yet many who would scoff at a ghost believe whole heartedly in a God. A few years back I read a book which theorized that this belief in divine beings, a belief which most cultures share despite other differences, is some how a built in function of our psyche; something our brains created to explain our existence and other occurrences that we cannot explain any other way. In addition, I'd just like to thank Dr. Strayer and Eve so much for this semester's class! Eve, you're study sessions are the best and I've really learned a lot of applicable knowledge. Thanks so much! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:12:42 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Strokes In-Reply-To: <200612081903.kB8J3Ps2008966@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I enjoy cynicism myself, so I thought the movie was well done. It was definitely a good way to bring the semester to an end. I think science can be just as interesting as religion or magic. Some argue that scientists are too skeptical, thinking that science knows best. Some argue that religion, palm readings, and things of that sort are just ways to make life more interesting or palatable. I think that of all the fields of study, science and mathematics offer the most consensus. I’m not saying that the greater number is right. I’m just saying that science is really the only study that offers answers to questions. But hey, different strokes for different folks. _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:16:30 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:16:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] backward music Message-ID: I was bored the other day and I started looking up information about back-masking (playing music backwards to hear hidden messages) I found some cool websites that had some additional examples of supposed satanic dialog and secret messages. www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm I also stumbled upon the wikipedia entry for back-masking. It had some good information and discussed the skeptical view of the hidden messages. It basically said that we are great at finding patterns and are able to find patterns when there really aren't any. There are a few examples where hidden messages were really embedded into songs, but for the most part, it is just jibberish that with a little imagination can be interpreted as messages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking http://iusedtoworkfora.com/podcasts/Backwards.mp3 Reed _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:47:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Mitchell) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last modes Message-ID: Tuesdays video was great. It illustrated how much we want to believe in the extraordinary. I must admit I am a avid reader of horoscopes, I love seeing that new City Weekly in the crate on Thursdays! There are times when I am taken back by how accurate, or telling, I believe a horoscope to be; it is as if the author wrote it just for me as a sign that I am headed in the right, or wrong, direction. As Tuesdays video illustrated, how humans relate to the paranormal uncovers some of our tendencies. It shows that even though many may claim to not be religious they believe that, a higher power, or something beyond themselves is at work. It also demonstrates our craving for introspection, or to know ourselves better. We love people or things that can clarify our thoughts and give guidance to our lives. Believing in the paranormal makes people feel like their not alone, and that there is something or someone that is guiding their fate. Perhaps we are attracted to all of these magical things because they make us feel special and unique. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 18:39:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: I agree that we want to believe that there is something greater than us out there, that is why all these things seem possible as extrordinary as they might be. I have never really believed in things like the horoscope, mostly because its always wrong about me and because how acurate can it be really if you integrate probably millions of people but that never stoped me from reading it occasionally, yeah it might be a waste of time, but its an enjoyable waste of time Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 20:16:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:16:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Psychics Message-ID: <20061211201648.27735.qmail@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought the movie in class was interesting as well. We viewed the people claiming psychic abilities as being nothing more than con artists, but it makes me wonder if this people are just doing it to get money off of people or if they really truly believe that they have these abilities. We also view the people "falling" for these psychic's tricks as, at best, extremely gullible, at worst, complete idiots, but could people "like us" fall for these tricks as well. We learned in class that people are not only suggestible, but we also learned that things we believe are real, aren't necessarily are (optical illusions). So I guess the answer would be yes, we are all susceptible to the tricks and scams of others. Which makes it increasingly important to be skeptical, which was the point Dr. Strayer was making. --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought the movie in class was interesting as well.  We viewed the people claiming psychic abilities as being nothing more than con artists, but it makes me wonder if this people are just doing it to get money off of people or if they really truly believe that they have these abilities.  We also view the people "falling" for these psychic's tricks as, at best, extremely gullible, at worst, complete idiots, but could people "like us" fall for these tricks as well.  We learned in class that people are not only suggestible, but we also learned that things we believe are real, aren't necessarily are (optical illusions).  So I guess the answer would be yes, we are all susceptible to the tricks and scams of others.  Which makes it increasingly important to be skeptical, which was the point Dr. Strayer was making. 


Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 21:26:32 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <377621.92161.qm@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought the backwards music stuff was alittle far fetched. Most of the supposed "messages" didn't sound right...the only similarity I found in the majority of the examples we looked at were the syllables. Sure, they had the same syllables, matching the syllables in the "hidden message", but it didn't sound like the message that was supposed to be there. I think there ARE songs that have purposely placed hidden messages, but I also think people have way too much time on their hands. These are the effects of someone SEARCHING for something...maybe just like humans naturally look for facial patterns, maybe our ears works in much the same way: trying to make sense out of a jumble of auditory stimuli. I think this whole hidden messages thing is the simply the result of bored people who have nothing better to do with their time. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 01:57:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Becca Vrabel) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:57:56 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] postings Message-ID: When is the last week that we need to post messages? I enjoyed this class and feel like I learned quite a bit! =) _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 05:53:23 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dan Laxman) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:53:23 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Functional Fixedness In-Reply-To: <200612111902.kBBJ22FQ023395@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Final submission. I was thinking about funcitonal fixedness and how often I do that in problem solving. Functional fixedness is the tendency to use objects in a problem environment in only their customary way. I tried to come up with some examples from my own experiences, but I could more easily come up with examples of the opposite. For example, I was putting together a book shelf recently and had to hammer in some small nails. I didn't have a hammer with me and didn't want to walk clear out to the garage to get some, so I grabbed some pliers and started hammering with them which was not their customary use. (I eventually had to go out and get the hammer--the pliers just didn't do the job.) Of course, my grandpa was better at using tools in uncustomary ways. There were a few occassions when we were working on a project and I decided we needed to get another tool to take care of it. By the time I had returned, he had already taken care of it with the tools we had. I've wondered if functional fixedness could be used as a measure of intelligence. Dan From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 21:40:53 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Benjamin Divine) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Temporary Conclusion Message-ID: <20061212214053.81194.qmail@web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion." In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey. I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends. Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college. My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies. We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level. I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class. It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied: "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of." Good luck to all on the exam! --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion."  In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey.  I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends.  Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college.  My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies.  We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level.  I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class.  It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied:  "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of."  Good luck to all on the exam! 


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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2054302539-1165960645=:59529-- --0-2014970582-1165960645=:59529 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [24.10.220.79] by web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 PST Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Divine Subject: Temporary Conclusion To: Cognitive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 951 --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion." In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey. I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends. Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college. My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies. We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level. I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class. It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied: "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of." Good luck to all on the exam! --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion."  In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey.  I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends.  Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college.  My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies.  We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level.  I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class.  It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied:  "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of."  Good luck to all on the exam! 


Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578-- --0-2014970582-1165960645=:59529-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 22:58:21 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:58:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last, final post Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020" ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I just wanted to say thanks to Dr. Strayer and Eve for a fantastic = class. I expressed my concern over the difficulty of the class to both of them = before the semester even started. I was nervous about all the =93brain=94 = stuff. They both did a great job of making it easy to understand, not to mention interesting! So, thank you both! =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just wanted to say thanks to Dr. = Strayer and Eve for a fantastic class. I expressed my concern over the = difficulty of the class to both of them before the semester even started. I was = nervous about all the “brain” stuff. They both did a great job of making = it easy to understand, not to mention interesting! So, thank you = both!

 

 

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Message-ID: <10F0A00DF2B1C141ACE8EADC2FBC364101542C38@mail.sa.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just starting to study for the final and I just was briefly = looking over all the concepts that we covered in this class-- it is = crazy how much I learned in this class. I would have to say that the = most interesting, for me, was probably either the eye or maybe = attention. I still can't get over the video that we watch of the people = passing the basketball wearing the white shirts and I didn't even see = the GORILLA walk into the scene and pound his chest!!! I still am = shocked that I completely missed that! Anyway, this was a great class-- = good luck on the final! -Kari Johnson- Williams ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I was just starting to = study for the final and I just was briefly looking over all the concepts = that we covered in this class-- it is crazy how much I learned in this = class. I would have to say that the most interesting, for me, was = probably either the eye or maybe attention. I still can't get over the = video that we watch of the people passing the basketball wearing the = white shirts and I didn't even see the GORILLA walk into the scene and = pound his chest!!! I still am shocked that I completely missed that! = Anyway, this was a great class-- good luck on the final!
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 13 00:15:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:15:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays In-Reply-To: <759c1ffd0612111029l6a1bef34t228bc64bc763254d@mail.gmail.com> References: <759c1ffd0612111029l6a1bef34t228bc64bc763254d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612121615h11b9e693q3f178a8df650f4d8@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Emily Slager Date: Dec 11, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays To: Angela Eve Miller , Eve.Miller@psych.utah.edu For my messege this week, I will discuss the final essay questions. I'll just say what the main point will be for each of them. It will be a good review for me to refresh my mind and maybe give some tips for those who have yet to write theirs out yet. #1: Anderson's ACT model describes proceduralization. The working memory directly triggers behavior. It is an "If x, then I do y(the production)". #2: John Andersonbelieves that skill acquision is made by the procedures getting strengthened and therefore quickened. It is doing the steps A-->B-->C-->D all in one step "If A-->B,C,D". But is an expert doing the same act as a novice only quicker? Logan believes thta automaticity is produced by many memories built up. Therefore the time to complete a task has more memories to draw from and will therefore be quicker (by laws of statistics). #3: There are 8 Heuristics to discuss for this essay question: Availability: (thinking easy-to-recall) things are more prevelant. Representativeness: We make estimates on how representative an event is of its population and forgetting the "base rates". Anchoring: weighing more to earlier evidence than to later. As If: All information given is treated "as if" it had equal reliability. The last 4 are Symbolic comparison, Symbolic Distance, Congruity Effect and Mental Representations. #4: 4 ways to improve my problem-solving skills. Follow a systematic plan: basically--designing a plan that will get you to your goal efficieently. Draw inferences: (I need a real-life example of this one). Develop sub-goals: Some problems may be very large and require solving steps along the way to reach a final conclusion. Work backwards: (obvious explanation) and Search for Contradictions: I don't understand this one at all...go Review Sessions! #5: PDP models take from Biological models of the brain and apply them to many everyday models. The Hidden layer makes these models extremely smart and accurate at predicting outcomes. I don't understand the Matrix. #6: Being skeptical means not believing everything you are told. It means believing education and academic works over laypeople and pop culture. It means demanding great evidence and asking great questions. It means looking for other logical explanations of things. It also means having great experiment set-ups to test the "paranormal". Hope this helps! Good Luck! Emily Slager ------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Emily Slager <emily.slager@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 11, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays
To: Angela Eve Miller <Eve.Miller@utah.edu>, Eve.Miller@psych.utah.edu

For my messege this week, I will discuss the final essay questions. I'll just say what the main point will be for each of them.  It will be a good review for me to refresh my mind and maybe give some tips for those who have yet to write theirs out yet. 
#1:  Anderson's ACT model describes proceduralization.  The working memory directly triggers behavior.  It is an "If x, then I do y(the production)".
#2:  John Andersonbelieves that skill acquision is made by the procedures getting strengthened and therefore quickened.  It is doing the steps A-->B-->C-->D all in one step "If A-->B,C,D".  But is an expert doing the same act as a novice only quicker?  Logan believes thta automaticity is produced by many memories built up. Therefore the time to complete a task has more memories to draw from and will therefore be quicker (by laws of statistics). 
#3: There are 8 Heuristics to discuss for this essay question:  Availability: (thinking easy-to-recall) things are more prevelant.  Representativeness: We make estimates on how representative an event is of its population and forgetting the "base rates".  Anchoring: weighing more to earlier evidence than to later.  As If: All information given is treated "as if" it had equal reliability. The last 4 are Symbolic comparison, Symbolic Distance, Congruity Effect and Mental Representations.
#4:  4 ways to improve my problem-solving skills.  Follow a systematic plan: basically--designing a plan that will get you to your goal efficieently.  Draw inferences: (I need a real-life example of this one).  Develop sub-goals:  Some problems may be very large and require solving steps along the way to reach a final conclusion.  Work backwards: (obvious explanation) and Search for Contradictions: I don't understand this one at all...go Review Sessions!
#5:  PDP models take from Biological models of the brain and apply them to many everyday models.  The Hidden layer makes these models extremely smart and accurate at predicting outcomes.  I don't understand the Matrix. 
#6:  Being skeptical means not believing everything you are told.  It means believing education and academic works over laypeople and pop culture.  It means demanding great evidence and asking great questions.  It means looking for other logical explanations of things.  It also means having great experiment set-ups to test the "paranormal".

  Hope this helps!  Good Luck!
     Emily Slager
------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 13 04:16:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Review In-Reply-To: <200612130003.kBD03D0e014298@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
I gotta thank Eve for running all the reviews really well. She seems to know a lot about the subject especially being an undergraduate. Well hopefully all goes well with this test, and it is really easier than the last one. I felt really burnt out studying for the last one because that was a lot of stuff. Well thanks again Eve, and good luck to everyone on the test!!!
 
Kyle Murdock


MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 01:02:13 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jolene stehlin) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:02:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: After the review on Tuesday, I have to say that I feel pretty confident going into the final. I really feel like I've learned a lot this semester. My favorite section was on memory. The information I gained during that portion of lectures is something that I will benefit from greatly in the future. It helped to change the way I take notes, listen during lectures and my study habits. I have enhoyed this class a lot and hope to continue to learn about cognitive psychology. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 01:06:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:06:25 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: this is my last post and it might be too late, so I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this class. I want to say thanks to both Dr. Strayer for coming up with interesting lectures and Eve for all the help throughout the semester, and for the review sessions. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 05:30:35 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:30:35 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post. In-Reply-To: <200612131903.kBDJ2XKT028304@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I guess this will be my last post. I want to thank Eve for all the help and support with the tests. A standing ovation to Dr. Strayer for an interesting and well executed class. I also want to thank all my post-fans, my loyal readers. You’ve been great; thank you for the responses. This post makes fourteen, which should make an A for the Modes of Learning class. It’s nice to have another semester out of they way. It’s even nicer to have tons of memory skills and knowledge for my remaining semesters. I enjoyed the first section the best, though it has all been informing. The eye and visual perception is quite the phenomenon to me. Thanks again. _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 06:48:32 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Brett Larsen) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Music Message-ID: I really think it is hilarious that people back in the seventies would be so paranoid about music runing their childrens minds that they would really believe that bands would take the time to put demented messages into their music. I think the only one i can believe even had a message in it was the pink floyd song that said "congratulations you found the message", and obviously they were making fun of the fact that people would be trying to find backwards messages in their music. And anyway who the hell has enough time to actually do that. I have listened to that pink floyd album about a thousand times and i have never thought to myself "oh that must have been a backwards message, ill try it out." _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 20:00:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] good luck and goodbye Message-ID: <227353.48560.qm@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> just wanted to wish everyone luck on the upcoming exam! I've learned a lot in this class this semester and it has always been interesting. I hope everyone enjoys the break (I know I will) and I'll see some of you next semester! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 20:43:34 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] brain models. In-Reply-To: <200612141903.kBEJ2YtI014448@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I really enjoyed this class and learned a lot. I think my favorite part was just recently when we talked about the new models of how the brain functions and how we can create simulations of these models with computers. It seems like our models of brain functioning are constantly growing in complexity and are getting better at describing how thoughts are formed, memories stored and retrieved, and information processed. Perhaps in a decade, or more, the models of brain functioning will be able to describe consciousness, an idea as abstract and unquantifiable as thought was 100 years ago. Anyway, thanks a lot Dr. Strayer, this class was great. And thank you Eve for your help throughout the semester and for the review sessions. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 22:14:38 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:14:38 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] final message Message-ID: I just want to say that I really enjoyed this class, I learned a lot but it was a little bit more difficult than i first imagened it would be. the concepts are interesting but they are difficult at least for me. I found the first part of the class, the hardest because it had so many technicalities that just was overwhelming but Eve's review sessions did help a lot Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 00:47:20 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:47:20 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final exam Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612141647r5e5be4c5q6033517ffe6ab8f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_169908_30733735.1166143640482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not able to make it to the review on tuesday. Did eve say what were the most important things to study? Does anyone have notes or anything? I specifically have question on the first two questions. If anyone has a chance, let me know. However, this e-mail will probably not even make it out in time -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_169908_30733735.1166143640482 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not able to make it to the review on tuesday.  Did eve say what were the most important things to study?  Does anyone have notes or anything?  I specifically have question on the first two questions.  If anyone has a chance, let me know.  However, this e-mail will probably not even make it out in time

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_169908_30733735.1166143640482-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 05:39:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jacob Hansen) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:39:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:


well i did not kow if we were supposed to post again this week so to be safe here is another one by me so i saw people were posting about the review session and saying how they felt confident and such, i wish i could say the same for myself, i get so nervous and sometimes that effects me during the test and i cannot recall the information that i need to. as hard as i study it never seems to fail. so i do want to say that the review sessions help so much because they at least get me pointed in the right direction.  like some of my other classes this semester the teacher hands out a four page review for the test and like 75 percent is not even on the test so i feel like i have wasted so much of my time.  i must say that i have never felt like this about this class it has been great and i just hope that i do not have to take it again.....




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 06:21:10 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aubrey Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The end. In-Reply-To: <200612141903.kBEJ2YtI014448@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:

I guess I've gotta do this one more time. I think? maybe. anyway.. I just wanted to say how interesting I thought this class was, along with the rest of you. I thought Dr. Strayer did a really good job presenting the material in a way that captured our attention and made us think critically about the subjects at hand. he showed us why it's important to look at the world from a somewhat skeptical point of view. I also really thought Eve did a great job with her review sessions. I was very impressed with both of them. go team Cognitive Psych! kbye.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 18:59:50 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (hailey Woodside) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last post Message-ID:

So, I am really not interested in cognitive psychology at all, but this class has actually been really interesting. I learned alot of stuff and I actually found the class to be really enjoyable. I am glad that Eve and Dr. Strayer made the class really interesting, it was nice to have instructors who were so interested in what they were teaching!

Hailey


"The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love and be loved in return."
 
 


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I just wanted to say that i am very concerned with the true false questions from the exam, i hate to second guess myself but i guess that is my nature.  the exam besides that was great i felt that i was prepaired and could do nothing more to get ready for it.  It has been so helpful this semester to have such a great graduate assistant i figured that out because i had another class were the communication between the instructor and the graduate student was not so hot and it has frustrated me all semester long.  i am so glad that this was not the case with this class, i cannot say enough good things about it. thanks




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:41:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paul Rudd) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] skeptic approach In-Reply-To: <200612151903.kBFJ2XT0000051@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I totally believe in having a skeptical approach. Having a skeptical approach means not taking information at face value. But looking into outrageous claims and finding out the facts for yourself. Too many people simple believe what their friends and family have told them, or even worse, someone they believe is magical. The skeptical approach doesn't just apply to aliens and faces on mars but to all things. Even things you learn at the University need to be taken in with some skepticism. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:47:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:47:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID: <20061215194726.15419.qmail@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Eve for getting this one last post in. I just wanted to say that this class was very worthwhile for me. Being a senior, I have taken alot of psychology classes, and this one presented information in a way that was completely new to me. My favorite subject had to be the section we did on memory and how we could use mnemonics and other memory devices to better remember and recall things. I was taking a class that I was having some trouble in and I used those techniques and they made a huge difference in my test scores. Anyways, thanks Dr.Strayer and thanks again Eve. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Eve for getting this one last post in.  I just wanted to say that this class was very worthwhile for me.  Being a senior, I have taken alot of psychology classes, and this one presented information in a way that was completely new to me.  My favorite subject had to be the section we did on memory and how we could use mnemonics and other memory devices to better remember and recall things.  I was taking a class that I was having some trouble in and I used those techniques and they made a huge difference in my test scores.  Anyways, thanks Dr.Strayer and thanks again Eve.

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:52:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Thought Message-ID: ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U. The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me. Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating. This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U.  The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me.  Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating.  This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:53:35 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Thought Message-ID: ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U. The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me. Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating. This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U.  The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me.  Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating.  This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 22:18:45 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:18:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Phew. In-Reply-To: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cognitive Psychology was certainly an interesting class; I'll never again think of studying for a test, forgetting my keys, or the psychic in the newspaper the same way again. When we began this class I figured that most of the information would be the kind of thing you wouldn't ever use in everyday life; now I find myself explaining everything for the behavior of politicians to my "inherited" forgetfullness using information from class. Very interesting. I'm glad this class was available. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 23:17:20 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ryan Boldrin) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:17:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final In-Reply-To: <200612151903.kBFJ2XT0000051@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20061215231720.75917.qmail@web53606.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Dave and Eve for a great semester. This was by far my favorite class. It tied together many different concepts from other classes. A little neuropsychology,a little brain structure, basic cognition processing and splash of color, and there you go. Good luck to all. The final went great today and I anticipate doing fairly well. - Ryan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 01:05:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Michelle Zur) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:05:25 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] last one In-Reply-To: <20061215194726.15419.qmail@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID:

I was disapointed in myself when it came to this class. This semester was nothing short of hell for me, not to mention I was burnt out before it had even started. It wasn't a help that there was no way I could have recovered from my first test score, and so I am glad it is all over.



Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 03:00:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:00:29 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Decision making Message-ID: When I read through the section that covers decision making and ways to improve your decision making, I had to put them to the test. Now I know that I usually use these types of techniques without thinking about it, but over the past week I have been using things like working backwards, making sub goals, searching for contradictions, and representing problems graphically. I found that when I am knowingly picking a single strategy that it really is a huge help to solving my various problems. Now that I am aware of these strategies and I have put them to the test, I am definitely going to think about and use them allot more often. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 03:13:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:13:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Message-ID: I have always been told that I have a skeptic attitude. I never believe anything unless it can be proven to be true. I always ask questions about everything. I enjoy finding and hearing explanations about everything and anything. I think that my skeptical approach to things is a main contributor to my interest in psychology. I think that a skeptical attitude is a very good thing to have when it comes to psychology. It brings a natural since of interest in explanations of behaviors and emotions. It drives me to research things out and aids in complex cognitive thinking _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 19:46:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Katie) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:46:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <4E9A09E16264024C80C968D5CFCCB7AB041C6B@xeoni.digitalbreakdown.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7214A.D1D91F74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As every one else seemed to, I also really enjoyed this class. I think = my favorite part was on memory, and in general how complex all of our = cognitive systems are is truly amazing. I've learned to be skeptical not = only of things in the outside world, but also of my OWN memories and = perceptions, because they are not always what they seem to be either. = Really interesting and fun class, it was also difficult but Dr. Strayer = and Eve made it also very fun and easier to understand. thank you.=20 Katie Johnson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7214A.D1D91F74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As every one else seemed to, I also really enjoyed = this class. I think my favorite part was on memory, and in general how = complex all of our cognitive systems are is truly amazing. I've learned = to be skeptical not only of things in the outside world, but also of my = OWN memories and perceptions, because they are not always what they seem = to be either. Really interesting and fun class, it was also difficult = but Dr. Strayer and Eve made it also very fun and easier to understand. = thank you.

Katie Johnson

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I gained a lot from cognitve psychology. It really gave me a appreication of how complex cognition is. It is iimpossible to even fully comprehend the complexities of our perceptual system. This class also demostrated the extent to which we as humans create a reality all of our own. When Dr Stayer gave the lecture on illusions I truely could not believe that many could examples could possibly be true. This class also made me realize how litte I know about the workings of the human body. Before this class if someone were to ask me about the working of the eye I would not have much to say. I wasn't even aware to the presence of the blind spot in our vision which is so interesting that I can not believe that more people are not aware of its presence. This class also showed me how important a skeptical approach to information is. It is all too easy to believe everything you read without questioning how the results were obtaIned. Before taking this class if I were to see that magician bending the spoon of I would have believed that he truely possesd magical powers. I feel forunate to be in major that exposes me to such interesting information. Thanks Eve (I hope you can still accept this)


Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 1 00:30:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:30:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] subliminal messages Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30" ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Today=92s lecture was really interesting for me. I always wondered about subliminal messages. I have heard many people say that they are really effective. I have learned from this class that if you don=92t attend to something, it has no way of finding a home in your brain. I think some = of the pictures I have seen of ads that look sexual may have subliminal messages included, but you can generally figure out what they are trying = to say even without studying it. The ones that surprised me, though, were = the Disney movies. That is completely just artists trying to have a little = fun. I don=92t think we experienced a rush of 6 year olds trying to go out = and have sex. Freud may have something to say about it, but I don=92t see that it = made a difference in my kids! =20 ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C714A5.471F6E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Today’s lecture was really = interesting for me. I always wondered about subliminal messages. I have heard many = people say that they are really effective. I have learned from this class that = if you don’t attend to something, it has no way of finding a home in your = brain. I think some of the pictures I have seen of ads that look sexual may = have subliminal messages included, but you can generally figure out what they = are trying to say even without studying it. The ones that surprised me, = though, were the Disney movies. That is completely just artists trying to have a = little fun. I don’t think we experienced a rush of 6 year olds trying to = go out and have sex. Freud may have something to say about it, but I = don’t see that it made a difference in my kids!

 

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 Last Tuesday we talked about decision making and problem solving. Chapter 11 talked about the fallicies  humans make when making decisions.  It made me think about how many American enterprises make money because of poor decision making on the part of the American public and by ignoring expect value. For example, who would think that anyone would enter the lottery when the chances of winning are 1 in 7 million.  Or that people would still gamble, some religiously, when the average return, by the house, when playing Blackjack can be as high as 99 percent. Expected value can be completely disregard, when people would likely be better off keeping their dollar (or thousands of dollars).  I bet if you were to put these odds in another context, by lets say ask someone if they would risk losing one-hundred dollars when their chance of winning would be 1 in 100, they would say no. I believe that we spend money in these illogicial ways because we believe somehow our odds will be different and we may be that luckily individual, but we won't.  

 

Today in class we talked about parapsychology. Dr Strayer reminded us to be very skeptical about what we hear and what we believe. This is wise advice, because it is so easy to get caught up in conspiracy theories. I can't help but be intrigued by shows about aliens, UFO's, and strange occurances. I remember watching one program on Area 51 which talked about peculiar things like all the sensors miles outside of Area 51 and the airport terminal that flew secret workers to and from the area which was nickednamed JANET "just another non-existent terminal." I remember watching this program and thinking "Damn we have aliens." Dr. Strayer made me realize how ridiculous this is when he said something to the effect of "what they don't tell you is that they don't let people enter sites 1-50 either." Plus I imagine if aliens really did exist I would imagine they would probably be attacking us. 

               I also found it interesting to know how many people believe in extraordinary events, I would not think it would be as high as 2 in 3. Although I do believe that crop circles, the locknest monsters, and UFO's are probably good hoaxs and mistakes of perceptions I do believe that many humans do possess extraordinary powers that can not be explained and are perhaps reflect a new stage in human evolution. For me, there is just too much evidence of human telepathy, telekinesis, and precognition. Even the C.I.A has psychics working for them, a psychic (perhaps not their best) is assisting them right now in helping to track Bin Laden. I guess I am with the majority of individuals who believe there is some truth behind the extraodinary powers many claim to possess.

THANKS EVE!



Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 1 04:42:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paige) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:42:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Psych3120] Question on question #6 Message-ID: <20061201044206.7E50099E30@mprdmxin.myway.com> --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__2b8a4528bdce8ec968187cba20710414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone. I was just going over study guide number 3, and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on question number six. They questions is, describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills. Provide an example of how might you use these strategies in everyday life? So I was looking over the notes from the 21st, and was a little confused on what exactly it was looking for. There are a few solutions that are suggested to improve your problem solving skills, but these are the ones I figure that it is talking about. If anyone out there feels that I am wrong, please let me know. The four factors involved in creative problem solving are: 1. Preparation: forming the problem, attempting to solve the problem. 2. Incubation: set the problem aside for awhile. 3. Illumination: develop insightful perspective. 4. Verification: check to make sure that the solution solves the problem. Thanks! -Paige Baucom _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__2b8a4528bdce8ec968187cba20710414 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey everyone. I was just going over study guide number 3, and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on question number six. They questions is, describe four ways to improve your problem solving skills. Provide an example of how might you use these strategies in everyday life?

So I was looking over the notes from the 21st, and was a little confused on what exactly it was looking for. There are a few solutions that are suggested to improve your problem solving skills, but these are the ones I figure that it is talking about. If anyone out there feels that I am wrong, please let me know.

The four factors involved in creative problem solving are: 1. Preparation: forming the problem, attempting to solve the problem. 2. Incubation: set the problem aside for awhile. 3. Illumination: develop insightful perspective. 4. Verification: check to make sure that the solution solves the problem.

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I thought todays lecture was really entertaining. I am really NOT a skeptical person...I pretty much believe anything I ever get told. I always thought that subliminal advertising worked..it seems like a lot of money and trouble to put all those secret messages into ads if they arent even going to work. The only thing I was skeptical about was the backwards music...I guess I thought it would be alot clearer message. I couldnt really hear anything on any of the songs. It kind of seemed like reading what it is susposed to be saying would bias you toward hearing that message.

PS...who ever was asking about GRE prep...alot of people I have talked to said that the book WordSmart for the GRE helped w/ the vocab section ALOT. And I also heard that the math portion is really similar to what you do on the ACT...and ACT tutors/study materials are cheaper than the GRE stuff...just a thought, a couple people have told me it worked for them.

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Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and a Web site from Microsoft Office Live From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 2 00:35:41 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:35:41 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612011635m21e0967bk3640710ffb45dc71@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All, I was thinking about 2 things in class today, and thought I'd bring them up here on the Messege Board. First of all: I have had it a many times where I've been thinking about a random friend back home, and then that night he or she calls me. ESP? I have also had it where the phone rings and I just get a "feeling" that it's, let's say, my mom--and it is. ESP? I used to think that ESP might be real because of all these examples. But when I took Social Psychology, we learned that people are much more likely to remember when strange things happen to them. Of the millions of times that I thought about a friend but he or she did NOT call, I forget those. But I remember all the rare times when he or she does call me. Thus, since I remember those times but forget all the rest, I tended to think that there really may be some truth to ESP. Now, when something like that happens, I just remind myself that there were probably 1000 times that the phone rang and it was not the person I thought it was going to be. I just don't remember the normal things (transience). So...the next time you get locked out of your car and you think: "this ALWAYS happens to me" --think again about all the times (many more, I'm sure) that you did NOT get locked out. Like Dr. Strayer said: be skeptical...there's usually a rational reason behind "parapsychology". Emily ------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All,
    I was thinking about 2 things in class today, and thought I'd bring them up here on the Messege Board.  First of all:  I have had it a many times where I've been thinking about a random friend back home, and then that night he or she calls me.  ESP?  I have also had it where the phone rings and I just get a "feeling" that it's, let's say, my mom--and it is.  ESP?  I used to think that ESP might be real because of all these examples.  But when I took Social Psychology, we learned that people are much more likely to remember when strange things happen to them.  Of the millions of times that I thought about a friend but he or she did NOT call, I forget those.  But I remember all the rare times when he or she does call me.  Thus, since I remember those times but forget all the rest, I tended to think that there really may be some truth to ESP.   Now, when something like that happens, I just remind myself that there were probably 1000 times that the phone rang and it was not the person I thought it was going to be.  I just don't remember the normal things (transience). 

    So...the next time you get locked out of your car and you think: "this ALWAYS happens to me" --think again about all the times (many more, I'm sure) that you did NOT get locked out.   Like Dr. Strayer said:  be skeptical...there's usually a rational reason behind "parapsychology".

            Emily
------=_Part_2921_10012769.1165019741271-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 2 18:41:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Chad C Moffitt) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:41:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] do muscles have episodic memories? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing Dr. Strayer mentioned in class this week about neural networks = is that memories are stored in the synapses between neural connections. = He discussed the storage of memories in terms of the strength of the = synaptic connection. Neuro scientists have discoved a few dozen = different kinds of protiens that are involved with the storage of = memories at the synaptic level. Any explicit memory we have, eposidic = or otherwise, seems to be reducible to a combination of different = protiens acting at particular synapses in the parietal lobe and other = associated areas. If this is so, one wonders whether isolating and = placing these combinations of protiens at any synapse in the nervous = system would produce an episodic memory, retrievable by our cognitive = retrieval processes. It may be that muscles and other tissues in our = bodies do store memories, for how else could muscles and other motor = processes in our body be self-sustaining, without our conscious effort. = Some of these memories could be episodic and we simply lack the ability = and resources to retrieve them and bring them into consciousness. = Indeed, systems theorists believe that even atoms may store memories. = We just aren't aware of the content because we cannot retrieve them. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
One thing Dr. Strayer = mentioned in class this week about neural networks is that memories are = stored in the synapses between neural connections.  He discussed = the storage of memories in terms of the strength of the synaptic = connection.  Neuro scientists have discoved a few dozen different = kinds of protiens that are involved with the storage of memories at the = synaptic level.  Any explicit memory we have, eposidic or = otherwise, seems to be reducible to a combination of different protiens = acting at particular synapses in the parietal lobe and other associated = areas.  If this is so, one wonders whether isolating and = placing these combinations of protiens at any synapse in the nervous = system would produce an episodic memory, retrievable by our cognitive = retrieval processes.  It may be that muscles and other = tissues in our bodies do store memories, for how else could muscles = and other motor processes in our body be self-sustaining, without our = conscious effort.  Some of these memories could be episodic = and we simply lack the ability and resources to retrieve them and bring = them into consciousness.  Indeed, systems theorists believe = that even atoms may store memories.  We just aren't = aware of the content because we cannot retrieve = them.  
------_=_NextPart_001_01C71641.6D2C7199-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 00:00:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kevin Mangum) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:00:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] psych Message-ID: <32252.43735.qm@web52612.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In England there is some cool research going on. here is a bleep from there study. Expression is examined from the viewpoint of communication theory and it is argued that a proper understanding of expression involves an integrated description of both performance and perception. A framework is developed in which to couch a general theory of expression. As an example, a number of algorithms, implemented in Lisp are described which model the performance and perception of rubato. The model is based on two factors: 1) the use of “phrase final lengthening” to signal a group boundary and 2) the ability of the listener to track a variable tempo. The study shows that rubato is a rich source of information for the listener and that any realistic music parser must take this into account. On the other hand any performance model must take into account the constraints of perception. --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In England there is some cool research going on. here is a bleep from there study. Expression is examined from the viewpoint of communication theory and it is argued that a proper understanding of expression involves an integrated description of both performance and perception. A framework is developed in which to couch a general theory of expression. As an example, a number of algorithms, implemented in Lisp are described which model the performance and perception of rubato. The model is based on two factors: 1) the use of “phrase final lengthening” to signal a group boundary and 2) the ability of the listener to track a variable tempo. The study shows that rubato is a rich source of information for the listener and that any realistic music parser must take this into account. On the other hand any performance model must take into account the constraints of perception.


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1168891752-1165104046=:43735-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 18:24:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Radley) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 11:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Subliminal Messages Message-ID: --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pretty shocked by the advertisements that we saw. I would have never= guessed that those things were included in ads. Frankly, I don't think th= at they have influenced me at all. The ad of the clams looked like a pile = of nasty meat to me, not an orgy of lightly-breaded people. And the cracke= r? I felt no unresistable urge for sex or crackers after seeing it. If ad= vertisers are really are spending their time and money on that kind of thin= g, I am very unimpressed. There are definitely better ways of attracting t= heir target audience. I was interested that backwards messages in music we= re included in the lecture. I play in a band that has recorded a few songs= . In one of them, a part of Moby Dick is read and looped backwards. Maybe= everyone that has listened to it has been inspired to pick up a little Her= man Melville. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Yahoo! http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=3D7adb59de-a857-45ba-81cc-= 685ee3e858fe= --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was pretty shocked by the advertisements that we saw.  I would= have never guessed that those things were included in ads.  Frankly, = I don't think that they have influenced me at all.  The ad of the clam= s looked like a pile of nasty meat to me, not an orgy of lightly-breaded pe= ople.  And the cracker?  I felt no unresistable urge for sex or c= rackers after seeing it.  If advertisers are really are spending their= time and money on that kind of thing, I am very unimpressed.  There a= re definitely better ways of attracting their target audience.  I was = interested that backwards messages in music were included in the lecture.&n= bsp; I play in a band that has recorded a few songs.  In one of them, = a part of Moby Dick is read and looped backwards.  Maybe everyone that= has listened to it has been inspired to pick up a little Herman Melville.&= nbsp;

Use Messenger to talk to your IM friends, even those on Y= ahoo! Talk now! = --_5ee3896f-17d7-486b-86a9-76967b44e01a_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 19:57:50 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:57:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Psychology Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612031157k14b445c7ib1a97d06d58fdf1c@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things. I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd. I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain. I think that there are things that we do not comprehend. However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people. I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant. It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen. i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there. I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things.  I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd.  I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain.  I think that there are things that we do not comprehend.  However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people.  I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant.  It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. 

It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen.  i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there.  I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 3 21:57:19 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lexi Breeze) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: So this week I want to talk about subliminal messaging! I love it so much I think it is so interesting. I think the most interesting part is why they do it. If it doesn't work then why would you put this crap in your stuff? Especially the people from disney. I have seen a lot of other stuff come from disney and it's like they are supposed to be this childrens company with good wholesome values and stuff in their movies and it seems like they put a lot of subliminal crap in their movies. And there are drawings of stuff on the covers of their movies and I really just don't get why they would do that? Especially if there is a chance that people could discover what you have done and the word gets out into the public, I would think that would discourage a lot of people from taking their children to and buying their movies. Like I wonder if it's some secret thing that happens that the guy doing the animation goofs off and puts something explicit in their that no one else will really notice just because he can. And the people making all the other advertisements that we saw in class, if they are just being funny, or what? It seems like there is a lot of extra time going into putting these things in there and for no reason because you would never even notice it. Some of them are even hard to see when you know what you're looking for and you're staring right at it. And who has the time to listen to all these songs backwards and try to figure out something you can make up that it says backwards because it sounds close to it? People are weird, that's all I have to say. _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 02:31:33 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jake Andreason) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Thursdays lecture was pretty intersting. I don't think I'll ever look at disney movies the same way, but it was pretty funny. I have always wondered if subliminal messages actually did anything so it was kind of cool to hear about it. I personally don't think I have ever noticed any of it though. And the hidden messages in the songs is just dumb. That's just somebody with way too much time on their hands sitting there trying to make messages where theres nothing to begin with. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 02:46:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Erasure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At some point this week Dr. Strayer mentioned chemicals that erase parts of our memories; to be precise to erase specific memories of traumatic events. This weekend while putting off doing some homework I managed to catch a TNT showing of the movie Paycheck, which deals with erasing memories of a specific period of time. After doing some light research on Google, I found this article: http://www.sciam.com/ article.cfm?articleID=0006783F-2CFE-1FE2-ACFE83414B7FFE9F Basically, it states that while memory erasure of the kind in Paycheck is still merely speculative, it has been shown to be possible to erase several hours of memory in both humans and animals using electroshock therapy - and work with the hippocampus shows that it is possible to selectively remove animal's memories of places where they have received training! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 03:37:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jacob Hansen) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:

as we talked this week in class about esp and subliminal messages i was interested in the music being played backwards.  this to me was a load of garbage for the most part.  as we have learned one cannot be influenced by something that they do not percieve. so the people who have taken the time to play these songs backward it seems very far fetched.  half of the lyrics i could not understand so how could they be influencing me? it sounds nice to point the finger at some of these artist and say that they had some other motive behind what they were actually doing when they composed the music. or even to say that they have sold their souls to the devil and are acting for him to bring mankind down into the depths of hell.  right....  but anyways it is fun to explore these things and talk about them because there is a certain part of the population that believe in these sorts of phenonmenon.  the otherone is the aliens from outerspace, the only thing that i have to contribute to that is maybe some kids/adults stayed up or watched one to many hollywood movies. it is all in good fun thought and someone could get a good laugh from it.  




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 05:40:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? In-Reply-To: <200612021902.kB2J24Ub013321@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I don’t really believe in ESP. Kind of like what Emily was saying, there are too many times that the perceived phenomenon doesn’t happen, but you don’t remember those times. Confirmation bias. More specifically, fallacy of positive instances. Thursday’s lecture reminded me of way back in the day when Jell-O got in trouble for subliminal advertisement. It doesn’t even work. That’s the funny part. Well, I guess it works to an extent. Seems like the conclusion of the literature I checked out was that the effects are weak and short-lived, short-lived like seconds to minutes. Also, if I recall correctly, that story Dr. Strayer talked about, about the movie theater concessions, that was fake. I heard the guy lied, and the experiment was never able to be replicated. Something about he lied about the number of sales. I can’t really remember. Anyway, have a nice day. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601&tcode=wlmtagline From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 05:45:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:45:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <878017.43567.qm@web56505.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it. Aliens? Is there other life out there? Many people would like to believe so. So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes. I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's. I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff. It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen? Weather phenomenons perhaps? Hallucinations? I tend to agree with occams razor. The simplest solution tends to be the right one. -Debra --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it.  Aliens?  Is there other life out there?  Many people would like to believe so.  So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes.  I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's.  I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff.  It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen?  Weather phenomenons perhaps?  Hallucinations?  I tend to agree with occams razor.  The simplest solution tends to be the right one.
-Debra


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 06:16:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Dogs Message-ID: <717518.42625.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs. This made me think. I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows. She pointed out the window and said "doggies!" I said "No Amy, those are cows." I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues. Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet? Can this happen in other instances? Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well. The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo." That seemed to make sense to her. And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow. The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted." From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make. But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual. Maybe not..... I'm not sure...... --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs.  This made me think.  I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows.  She pointed out the window and said "doggies!"  I said "No Amy, those are cows."  I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues.  Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet?  Can this happen in other instances?  Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well.  The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo."  That seemed to make sense to her.  And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow.  The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted."  From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make.  But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual.  Maybe not..... I'm not sure......


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People just seem to have too much time on their hands.... _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 17:15:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I found the lecture on parapsychology to be very interesting, especially the part on hidden messages in songs when played backwards. Something that I noticed about that segment of lecture is that I was unable to really understand the backwards messages in the songs until I could read the interpretation of what the song was. I was interested in seeing if this were true for other people, so I got a few friends and showed them the first Led Zeppelin song we looked at in class. The first time I showed them the song’s hidden message I didn’t show the lyrics, and no one really understood what said, but when I provided the lyrics the heard the message loud and clear. I think that this little study shows something about the perceptual system and how it works. It shows that when we expect to see or hear something, our brain will mold what we see or hear into something that we understand and are expecting to hear. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 4 19:48:27 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kari Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] thought of the week In-Reply-To: <200612041902.kB4J1Wst012355@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <10F0A00DF2B1C141ACE8EADC2FBC3641015430C5@mail.sa.utah.edu> I thought that Thursday's lecture was very interesting! I had to go home and listen to the songs backwards again to see if I could really hear the words~ it was kind of creepy because I could hear some of the words with some of the songs!!!! However, I don't think that these songs would ever influence me when played forward. -Kari Williams Kari Johnson Executive Assistant Associated Students of the University of Utah 801-581-2788(o) 801-502-7357(c) 801-581-6882(f) -----Original Message----- From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:02 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #996 - 10 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Skeptic Psychology (Darin Mano) 2. (no subject) (Lexi Breeze) 3. (no subject) (Jake Andreason) 4. Memory Erasure (Jennie Ruff) 5. (no subject) (Jacob Hansen) 6. ESP? (William Gordon) 7. parapsychology (dog_log1@yahoo.com) 8. Dogs (Kim Endersen) 9. subliminal messaging (Becca Vrabel) 10. (no subject) (tucker voss) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:57:50 -0700 From: "Darin Mano" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Psychology Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things. I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd. I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain. I think that there are things that we do not comprehend. However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people. I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant. It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen. i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there. I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was a very interesting class about supernatural claims and other things.  I always thought that the things that people said that they have seen pr heard were wierd.  I do believe that there are many things that happen that science cannot explain.  I think that there are things that we do not comprehend.  However, I do not believe in many of the things that are claimed by people.  I think that there are many people that waste a lot of time worring about things that are unimportant.  It also seems a lot like there are people that make things up in order to see how many people will believe them. 

It is good to get a little more phychological understnading of why these things may happen.  i think that this class has taught me a lot about how people might see something that looks unusual and because there is no real explanantion they will attribute it to something that is not actually there.  I think that it is important to understnad that pepople do thins and thus be skeptical about what people swear they saw.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_23642_14616577.1165175870318-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Lexi Breeze" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu So this week I want to talk about subliminal messaging! I love it so much I think it is so interesting. I think the most interesting part is why they do it. If it doesn't work then why would you put this crap in your stuff? Especially the people from disney. I have seen a lot of other stuff come from disney and it's like they are supposed to be this childrens company with good wholesome values and stuff in their movies and it seems like they put a lot of subliminal crap in their movies. And there are drawings of stuff on the covers of their movies and I really just don't get why they would do that? Especially if there is a chance that people could discover what you have done and the word gets out into the public, I would think that would discourage a lot of people from taking their children to and buying their movies. Like I wonder if it's some secret thing that happens that the guy doing the animation goofs off and puts something explicit in their that no one else will really notice just because he can. And the people making all the other advertisements that we saw in class, if they are just being funny, or what? It seems like there is a lot of extra time going into putting these things in there and for no reason because you would never even notice it. Some of them are even hard to see when you know what you're looking for and you're staring right at it. And who has the time to listen to all these songs backwards and try to figure out something you can make up that it says backwards because it sounds close to it? People are weird, that's all I have to say. _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&loca le=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Jake Andreason" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thursdays lecture was pretty intersting. I don't think I'll ever look at disney movies the same way, but it was pretty funny. I have always wondered if subliminal messages actually did anything so it was kind of cool to hear about it. I personally don't think I have ever noticed any of it though. And the hidden messages in the songs is just dumb. That's just somebody with way too much time on their hands sitting there trying to make messages where theres nothing to begin with. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:/ /spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Jennie Ruff Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:46:46 -0700 To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Erasure Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu At some point this week Dr. Strayer mentioned chemicals that erase parts of our memories; to be precise to erase specific memories of traumatic events. This weekend while putting off doing some homework I managed to catch a TNT showing of the movie Paycheck, which deals with erasing memories of a specific period of time. After doing some light research on Google, I found this article: http://www.sciam.com/ article.cfm?articleID=0006783F-2CFE-1FE2-ACFE83414B7FFE9F Basically, it states that while memory erasure of the kind in Paycheck is still merely speculative, it has been shown to be possible to erase several hours of memory in both humans and animals using electroshock therapy - and work with the hippocampus shows that it is possible to selectively remove animal's memories of places where they have received training! --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Jacob Hansen" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:37:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

as we talked this week in class about esp and subliminal messages i was interested in the music being played backwards.  this to me was a load of garbage for the most part.  as we have learned one cannot be influenced by something that they do not percieve. so the people who have taken the time to play these songs backward it seems very far fetched.  half of the lyrics i could not understand so how could they be influencing me? it sounds nice to point the finger at some of these artist and say that they had some other motive behind what they were actually doing when they composed the music. or even to say that they have sold their souls to the devil and are acting for him to bring mankind down into the depths of hell.  right....  but anyways it is fun to explore these things and talk about them because there is a certain part of the population that believe in these sorts of phenonmenon.  the otherone is the aliens from outerspace, the only thing that i have to contribute to that is maybe some kids/adults stayed up or watched one to many hollywood movies. it is all in good fun thought and someone could get a good laugh from it.  




JAKE
--__--__-- Message: 6 From: "William Gordon" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] ESP? Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I don't really believe in ESP. Kind of like what Emily was saying, there are too many times that the perceived phenomenon doesn't happen, but you don't remember those times. Confirmation bias. More specifically, fallacy of positive instances. Thursday's lecture reminded me of way back in the day when Jell-O got in trouble for subliminal advertisement. It doesn't even work. That's the funny part. Well, I guess it works to an extent. Seems like the conclusion of the literature I checked out was that the effects are weak and short-lived, short-lived like seconds to minutes. Also, if I recall correctly, that story Dr. Strayer talked about, about the movie theater concessions, that was fake. I heard the guy lied, and the experiment was never able to be replicated. Something about he lied about the number of sales. I can't really remember. Anyway, have a nice day. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=20060 1&tcode=wlmtagline --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: To: tech mode Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it. Aliens? Is there other life out there? Many people would like to believe so. So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes. I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's. I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff. It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen? Weather phenomenons perhaps? Hallucinations? I tend to agree with occams razor. The simplest solution tends to be the right one. -Debra --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I don't know what to say about this except that I don't think I ever really bought into any of it.  Aliens?  Is there other life out there?  Many people would like to believe so.  So if that's what they choose to believe it's real in their eyes.  I have watched multiple specials on the discovery channel recently about UFO's.  I can't believe how much information there is out there on this kind of stuff.  It gets me wondering... what are all these things people have seen?  Weather phenomenons perhaps?  Hallucinations?  I tend to agree with occams razor.  The simplest solution tends to be the right one.
-Debra


Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1211354967-1165211149=:43567-- --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) From: Kim Endersen To: Cognitive Psychology Subject: [Psych3120] Dogs Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs. This made me think. I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows. She pointed out the window and said "doggies!" I said "No Amy, those are cows." I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues. Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet? Can this happen in other instances? Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well. The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo." That seemed to make sense to her. And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow. The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted." From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make. But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual. Maybe not..... I'm not sure...... --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We were talking on Tuesday about overlaying processing systems for visual stimuli like dogs and how we have a prototypical dog which helps us recognize other dogs as dogs.  This made me think.  I was with my little cousin and we were driving and passed a bunch of cows.  She pointed out the window and said "doggies!"  I said "No Amy, those are cows."  I wondered how this could occur in the conceptual realm we were talking about on Tues.  Since dogs have similar features to cows, like four legs, furry bodies, etc, did her neural network pop-out "dog" because she didn't have a neural network for "cow" yet?  Can this happen in other instances?  Also in class we talked mainly about visual input, I'm assuming there are neural networks for sounds as well.  The reason I think this is because after correcting my cousin that the animals out the window weren't dogs but cows, she asked me what the difference was and the first thing I thought to respond with was, "dogs say woof and cows say moo."  That seemed to make sense to her.  And growing up as a kid, most of us had those toys where you pulled a string and an arrow would spin around and land on animal and the toy would say, "This is a cow.  The cow goes moo." Not, "this is a cow, the prototypical cow has 4 legs and can be black and white spotted."  From early on, we learn to associate animals with the sounds they make.  But we also learn that we get milk from cows, which helps us differentiate them from dogs by function, not by visual input, so there must be neural networks for auditory input and other forms of input as well, not just visual.  Maybe not..... I'm not sure......


Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-587244604-1165213016=:42625-- --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Becca Vrabel" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:18:27 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] subliminal messaging Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I don't see at all how subliminal messaging in music works. The example that Strayer used in class illustrated how there are backwards messages in the music and lyrics. I couldn't understand any of the messages so there is no way that I was influenced by them. All the sexual references in drawings or in scenes from Disney movies... those are crazy. People just seem to have too much time on their hands.... _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "tucker voss" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I found the lecture on parapsychology to be very interesting, especially the part on hidden messages in songs when played backwards. Something that I noticed about that segment of lecture is that I was unable to really understand the backwards messages in the songs until I could read the interpretation of what the song was. I was interested in seeing if this were true for other people, so I got a few friends and showed them the first Led Zeppelin song we looked at in class. The first time I showed them the song's hidden message I didn't show the lyrics, and no one really understood what said, but when I provided the lyrics the heard the message loud and clear. I think that this little study shows something about the perceptual system and how it works. It shows that when we expect to see or hear something, our brain will mold what we see or hear into something that we understand and are expecting to hear. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:/ /spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 03:52:10 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology and UFO's Message-ID:


Talking about parapsychology last week was so cool.  It's fascinating how people interpret events, often making them more significant than they really are. For example my friend was out hiking in the west desert one night and he and some friends saw these red lights in the sky. He came back the next day so excited that he saw a UFO. I told him it was more likely that a bald eagle swallowed a flashlight and was flying around than an alien civilization had found a way to defy physics and travel thousands of lightyears to our planet. He scoffed and told me that if I had been there I would have thought it was a UFO as well. He might be right. I imagine that the reactions of others would bias your own interpretation. If everyone else was pointing and saying "check that out" "it couldn't be anything but aliens" I might buy into it.

Reed Dow



Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:25:08 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kasey lundgren) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:25:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] modes posting Message-ID: <456200.40940.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ok so i totally believe in the whole parapsychology thing ha ha. I always have, how is there not any other species out there besides us and how have they not been here yet. I pretty much believe everything about area 51 and Roswell.....even though there are logical explanations for it all i still think there is something pretty fishing going on around those parts. I just think whenever there is that much talk and suspicion about anything in the world most likely something happened along those lines.....it has probably been re-worded and bits and pieces have been added throughout the years but something crazy defiantly happened. I also believe in SOME psychics and people you read tarot cards and fortunes. .. i know my mother my step mother and myself have all had some pretty intense readings that speak of very specific things that someone could not have just made up or generalized about us, plus i think it is fun to believe in that stuff and have a little faith in the unknown --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
ok so i totally believe in the whole parapsychology thing ha ha. I always have, how is there
not any other species out there besides us and how have they not been here yet. I
pretty much believe everything about area 51 and Roswell.....even though there are logical
explanations for it all i still think there is something pretty fishing going on around those
parts. I just think whenever there is that much talk and suspicion about anything in the world
most likely something happened along those lines.....it has probably been re-worded and
bits and pieces have been added throughout the years but something crazy defiantly
happened. I also believe in SOME psychics and people you read tarot cards and fortunes.
.. i know my mother my step mother and myself have all had some pretty intense readings
that speak of very specific things that someone could not have just made up or generalized
about us, plus i think it is fun to believe in that stuff and have a little faith in the unknown


Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-891262439-1165292708=:40940-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:40:55 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Messege for the Board Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612042040r51fc8a19x75a807fc9ed03589@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello! In regards to parapsychology and skepticism, I was wondering how accademic experts say that religion/God/a Higher Power fits into al of this. My husband is in Evolutionary Biology getting his PhD, and I know that there are virtually no Christians in that field. Scientists are skeptics by nature--and in practice. Therefore, it would be very important to be skeptical of something that one cannot see or touch. Miracles are another thing that would then be considered parapsychology-- there are other explanations for them, all other evidence around it seems false, no physical evidence can support it, etc. I would've liked to hear Dr. Strayer talk about this...but it's a way touchy subject. If it's just parapsychology then millions of people are basing their life on something that does not exist. Few people are able to go there, except for those in the New Atheism Movement-- a movement that is full of skeptic scientists... Emily Slager ------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello!
    In regards to parapsychology and skepticism, I was wondering how accademic experts say that religion/God/a Higher Power fits into al of this.  My husband is in Evolutionary Biology getting his PhD, and I know that there are virtually no Christians in that field.  Scientists are skeptics by nature--and in practice.  Therefore, it would be very important to be skeptical of something that one cannot see or touch.  Miracles are another thing that would then be considered parapsychology-- there are other explanations for them, all other evidence around it seems false, no physical evidence can support it, etc. 
    I would've liked to hear Dr. Strayer talk about this...but it's a way touchy subject.  If it's just parapsychology then millions of people are basing their life on something that does not exist.  Few people are able to go there, except for those in the New Atheism Movement-- a movement that is full of skeptic scientists...
     Emily Slager
------=_Part_298_11019584.1165293655894-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 04:54:11 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:54:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology and me. Message-ID: <20061205045411.44731.qmail@web55401.mail.re4.yahoo.com> it's kind of funny. we encounter this crap all the time. my boyfriend's car broke down in the marriot parking lot and was there for 2 days. we finally got it started, and we thought we had fixed the problem. he drove it around for a few days and there was no problem. on sunday night, i get a call from him and he's at the marriot...with a broken down car...again. i caught myself telling him "okay. now what did we learn?? no driving your car to the marriot. see what happens when you do?" but that's not true. it could have happened any time, any place. it just happened to happen at the marriot. TWICE. so whatever. but why do we resort to reasoning like that? why is it that we (well...so many of us) are so faulty in our judgement that we are quick to say silly things like that....and believe them?! (i mean..i don't honestly believe that the marriot is cursed. seriously. i don't.) but i just don't understand why that is the default in so many of us... sabreena ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 06:26:08 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Brett Larsen) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:26:08 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] other subliminal Message-ID: I know we talked about some subliminal messages in the disney movie the lion king this week in class but we did not talk about some of the other movies that disney did this. You might think i am a little weird for know this but i think the little mermaid is the worst one. On the cover of the old vhs there is a very large phallic symbol in the background and it also says sex in the water bubbles. I believe they actually changed the cover when it went to dvd because of the controversy. During the movie towards the end the priest that is marrying the prince to the evil witch gets an erection underneath his robe. Also in Aladdin in the very beginning when the vendor in riding in on the camel in his shadow he is flipping everyone off. Apu the monkey also says the S word three times during the movie. Then there is the scene on the balcony that disney actually got in trouble for. When raja the tiger is trying to get Aladdin to leave by growling at him, Aladdin very quietly says "take off your clothes" to jasmine. disney claims he was saying "take off and go" to the tiger but it really doesn't sound like it. I think it is really funny that disney, a company aimed towards family entertainment would put things in their movies like this. It seems they were doing it for a while before they actually got in trouble for it. Those artists must have been pretty board and a little messed up to put such things in kids movies. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 06:58:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:58:49 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsych Message-ID: ------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not happy about having to miss the lecture on Thurs. because it seems it was most interesting. The subject of parapsychology intrigues me very much so, mainly because my family is a lil crazy and a few of my uncles and aunts claim to have seen plenty of ghosts. Then there's also my sister who would often get strange "feelings" prior to peculiar and often, not very good situations. Personally, I'm very skeptic about the whole theme, specially of foretelling the future. I've had my palm as well as the tarot cards read and whatever I was told in both of those instances could not have been more far away from the truth which leads me to believe they simply go off on the person's reactions and hope they're right. ------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

I was not happy about having to miss the lecture on Thurs. because it seems it was most interesting. The subject of parapsychology intrigues me very much so, mainly because my family is a lil crazy and a few of my uncles and aunts claim to have seen plenty of ghosts. Then there's also my sister who would often get strange "feelings" prior to peculiar and often, not very good situations. Personally, I'm very skeptic about the whole theme, specially of foretelling the future. I've had my palm as well as the tarot cards read and whatever I was told in both of those instances could not have been more far away from the truth which leads me to believe they simply go off on the person's reactions and hope they're right.

------=_Part_1890_26990514.1165301929460-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 10:03:07 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aubrey Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:03:07 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] so what's your sign? In-Reply-To: <200612041902.kB4J223u012362@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:


I thought Thursday's lecture was super interesting. It fascinates me to think about the sheer number of people that believe in one or more aspect of parapsychology. I liked Dr. Strayer's warning to us to be skeptical in everything. It reminded me of this lady I used to work with, who decided to do an astrological reading for me for my birthday.  ... thanks. and she put together this whole chart and told me about the planets and alignment and all of that and how my moons affected me and make me such a walking contradiction. But honestly, I think the whole issue with horoscopes and zodiac signs, is that the characteristics they pinpoint for each sign, can generally be found in some small part in everybody. If they're saying "you are this way because you are born on this day," you'll automatically think about characteristics or events in your life that would be synoymous with that statement, because that's at the forefront of your mind. But that's just my take on it. And the concept of Zodiac signs is still pretty interesting, despite this.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 17:42:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:42:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] final review Message-ID: <20061205174226.56807.qmail@web55405.mail.re4.yahoo.com> i think eve has asked us to mention when would be a good time to get together for the final review. personally, the best time for me would be during class time...otherwise, i work all week in the evenings. sabreena ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:00:40 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:00:40 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Messege for the Board #13 Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612051100h174d79axb0cb021e8c5c925d@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All! Today's video was fantastic! People are very very ready to believe what they are seeing/hearing when they go to a Spiritual Healing Crusade or Psychic. People do not go into them with skeptical minds. This means they are not asking the important questions that will lead them to the Truth. Furthermore, the host of the show was great. He really understood that people want to believe these things. But he also gave Scientific Method measures to test them. He isolated a variable, had a double-blind experiment, discounted for chance alone, etc. Scientifically, these claims do not work (as most of us very humorously saw). Also, like Dr. Strayer said, there are OFTEN OTHER EXPLANATIONS for why the "paranormal" occur. Emily ------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello All!
    Today's video was fantastic!  People are very very ready to believe what they are seeing/hearing when they go to a Spiritual Healing Crusade or Psychic.  People do not go into them with skeptical minds.  This means they are not asking the important questions that will lead them to the Truth.  Furthermore, the host of the show was great.  He really understood that people want to believe these things.  But he also gave Scientific Method measures to test them.  He isolated a variable, had a double-blind experiment, discounted for chance alone, etc.  Scientifically, these claims do not work (as most of us very humorously saw).  Also, like Dr. Strayer said, there are OFTEN OTHER EXPLANATIONS for why the "paranormal" occur. 
    Emily
------=_Part_4627_30410918.1165345240408-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:20:49 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kevin Mangum) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:20:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <20061205192049.55755.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Parapsychology is the study of certain types of paranormal phenomena (parapsychology comes from the Greek para, “beside, beyond,” + psychology, derived from the Greek psyche, “soul, mind,” + logos “rational discussion”). The term was coined by Max Dessoir (1889). J. B. Rhine adopted it to refer to the scientific study of paranormal phenomena which are manifestations of psi. According to The Parapsychological Association, an organization affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science[4] Parapsychological phenomena can be categorized thus: These [paranormal] anomalies fall into three general categories: ESP[...] [Extra-Sensory Perception], PK [Psychokinesis], and phenomena suggestive of survival after bodily death, including near-death experiences, apparitions, and reincarnation. Most parapsychologists today expect that further research will eventually explain these anomalies in scientific terms, although it is not clear whether they can be fully understood without significant (some might say revolutionary) expansions of the current state of scientific knowledge. Other researchers take the stance that existing scientific models of perception and memory are adequate to explain some or all Parapsychological phenomena. [links not in original] --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Parapsychology is the study of certain types of paranormal phenomena (parapsychology comes from the Greek para, “beside, beyond,” + psychology, derived from the Greek psyche, “soul, mind,” + logos “rational discussion”). The term was coined by Max Dessoir (1889). J. B. Rhine adopted it to refer to the scientific study of paranormal phenomena which are manifestations of psi. According to The Parapsychological Association, an organization affiliated with the American Association for the Advancement of Science[4] Parapsychological phenomena can be categorized thus:
These [paranormal] anomalies fall into three general categories: ESP[...] [Extra-Sensory Perception], PK [Psychokinesis], and phenomena suggestive of survival after bodily death, including near-death experiences, apparitions, and reincarnation. Most parapsychologists today expect that further research will eventually explain these anomalies in scientific terms, although it is not clear whether they can be fully understood without significant (some might say revolutionary) expansions of the current state of scientific knowledge. Other researchers take the stance that existing scientific models of perception and memory are adequate to explain some or all Parapsychological phenomena. [links not in original]
 


Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-645597930-1165346449=:54902-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 19:58:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Benjamin Divine) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:58:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Overly Skeptical? Message-ID: <310270.28260.qm@web42101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What an interesting video that was on skepticism and the paranormal! I have always thought of myself as a skeptic and critic of the unexplained but the man in the video (can't remember his name) takes the cake! It seems as though he will never be able to be convinced of something unless he can find an alternate method (which is a rule for applying skepticism for any matter) to mimic the same procedure. Although I was not convinced by any form of paranormal activity attempted in the video, I do wonder if always having a skeptical mindset is primarily beneficiary. In other words, is their a difference from being an extreme skeptic to having an open mind regarding any issue? Of course, these are two separate matters but it seems to me that by being overly skeptical one may have already formed a negative bias towards something they are trying to disprove thus eliminating search for reasons against their opinion. It may work both ways here... I wonder if the man in the video is religious in any way. If so, would he ever try and disprove his own beliefs in a so called "controlled experimental setting?" --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What an interesting video that was on skepticism and the paranormal!  I have always thought of myself as a skeptic and critic of the unexplained but the man in the video (can't remember his name) takes the cake!  It seems as though he will never be able to be convinced of something unless he can find an alternate method (which is a rule for applying skepticism for any matter) to mimic the same procedure.  Although I was not convinced by any form of paranormal activity attempted in the video, I do wonder if always having a skeptical mindset is primarily beneficiary.  In other words, is their a difference from being an extreme skeptic to having an open mind regarding any issue?  Of course, these are two separate matters but it seems to me that by being overly skeptical one may have already formed a negative bias towards something they are trying to disprove thus eliminating search for reasons against their opinion.  It may work both ways here... I wonder if the man in the video is religious in any way.  If so, would he ever try and disprove his own beliefs in a so called "controlled experimental setting?"


Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2065927952-1165348683=:28260-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 20:15:28 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jolene stehlin) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:15:28 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: The video we watched today was really interesting, and amusing. I admit I was one of the 3 in 4 Americans who believed they have had a psychic experience, although I would never actually call myself psychic in any way, shape or form. Though some "psychic" abilities seems to be amazing, I have attributed them mostly to coincidence in the past. After seeing that video I will continue to do so. During the video I was thinking about these individuals who claim to be psychic, like the spoon-bender who was on Carson. That was evidence enough for me that it was a scam. It made me wonder though, is he just crazy and starving for attention. Why risk being exposed on national television? Maybe he's so nuts that he actually believed he was doing it. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 20:58:30 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:58:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] weekly posting Message-ID: I really enjoyed this subject about the supernatural, I kind of suspected that I shouldn't believe any of that stuff but I was always curious about it. Now I don't believe its true because I know how our mind works a little bit better now. still while discrediting certain phenomena, i think it was done in a very simplistic way, Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk..atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 22:01:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Video In-Reply-To: <200612051911.kB5JBEhq026420@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
It was awesome today seeing all of the psychic people looking stupid. That guy makes them feel so uncomfortable because they know that he is disproving them. The most funny thing I saw was when the two Russian women were looking at a picture of Ted Bundy and they were having a hard time because they were not recieving any feedback. After the man told them about Ted Bundy the Russian women were trying to say things that they never really said, and that what they said must have meant something different. This whole movie showed me that humans are so easily entranced in the paranormal. We want to believe in mystical powers, and we will pay money to hear people act like they have these powers. It is sad to see that the mans work has not been well recepted because I think it is very interesting.
 
Kyle Murdock


Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 5 23:35:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:35:26 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology movie (Romney Stevens) Message-ID: <20061205173526.xc2ov01nokw4wkwo@wm.integrity.com> I thought the movie in class today was very entertaining. One thing that I thought was interesting is that the man who had been a palm reader ended up being a psychologist. When he was "reading palms" of people who actually believed he had a psychic ablility it made me start wondering if those with a background in cognitive psychology would be especially effective "psychics". I am not condoning the practice of tricking people into believing that one has psychic powers, in fact I would consider it unethical. It just seems to me that people who have a knowledge of how the brain works and how it tries to draw conclusions from the perceptions of the environment would be better able to perform such trickery. Those with a background in psychology would also know what rules of perception they would be able to use to their advantage in order to provide the desired illusions. That's just one more practical, but inethical, use of the things we are learning in class. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 00:08:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alan richmond) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:08:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Parapsychology movie Message-ID: <20061206000825.39538.qmail@web50314.mail.yahoo.com> Today's movie about "testing" the claims of these people with supposed powers was kind of interesting to me. I was glad to see someone actually out there being skeptical about these phenomenon. I would say that I believe in a higher power and that there are things that do occur that we can't explain or that we necessarily understand but when people go about making false claims about having the ability to heal or having the ability to read peoples minds, or predict the future and they are out there taking advantage of people I think that it hurts every one because the ability to trust others is diminished every time that one of these charlatans is found out. Any ways I would just like to say thst I had fun with this class this semester and that I learned alot from it. Thank you to Eve and Professor Strayer for an interesting class. Alan Richmond ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 06:09:04 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Becca Vrabel) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:09:04 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: The video that we watched in class today was awesome! I have never been a believer in the supernatural or psychic reading abilities...now I am even less of a believer than I was before. The part about the "charged" water and changing levels of BP was all crap! Not a single scientist knew how to operate the blood pressure machine and the basis of their experimenting was blood pressure. Its ridiculous that these people profit so greatly from taking advantage of believers. Lame. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 17:39:36 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:39:36 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] movie Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C71922.D34CD9C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01C71922.D34CD9C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C71922.D34CD9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought the movie yesterday was really enjoyable. I thought that it was interesting when the weird looking student told the dr. that he felt his work was biased. The dr. responded with the fact that you can never disprove a negative. You can't prove that these "illusions" are not real, just that there may be another alternative explanation. I think that is where the skeptical aspect comes in for me. I think you should look at things with that skeptical eye. There may always be another way to explain things! Few things in life are black and white. I also liked the discussion on horoscopes and religious healers. For some people, they may need the extra emotional boost from believing in this parapsychology. The people all had the same exact horoscope but all claimed it described them well. I think we are looking for validation in what we do. We are all just looking for someone to understand us. We don't necessarily need to be right, but we all need to be understood. The sad part is that, especially with the "Healing Reverend", many people take advantage of that basic need we have. 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I thought the movie yesterday was = really enjoyable. I thought that it was interesting when the weird looking = student told the dr. that he felt his work was biased. The dr. responded with the = fact that you can never disprove a negative. You can’t prove that these = “illusions” are not real, just that there may be another alternative explanation. I = think that is where the skeptical aspect comes in for me. I think you should = look at things with that skeptical eye. There may always be another way to = explain things! Few things in life are black and white. I also liked the = discussion on horoscopes and religious healers. For some people, they may need the = extra emotional boost from believing in this parapsychology.  The people all had = the same exact horoscope but all claimed it described them well. I think we are = looking for validation in what we do. We are all just looking for someone to = understand us. We don’t necessarily need to be right, but we all need to be understood. The sad part is that, especially with the “Healing = Reverend”, many people take advantage of that basic need we have. Hopefully, if = nothing else, our expensive education has taught us now to be skeptical. =

 

 

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It is good to = see people who are using parapsychological beliefs to exploit others for = profit being called to task. However, several postings this week have = focused on some of the negative aspects of being overly skeptical. I = agree that being overly skeptial can bias someone to invalidate other = people's beliefs. Always using science to try to disprove = parapsychological beliefs may detract from asking what functions such = beliefs may have. For example, do they result in social cohesion among = the believers? do they result in a frame-work that is used to explain = the "unexplainable" thereby creating a sense of order in the universe? = do they provide moral structure for individuals to follow? The fact = that many ideas of parapsychology (religion included) cannot be tested = by scientific methods need not mean that they are invalid. What may be = important to the believer is not that there is no evidence for his = beliefs, but that these beliefs have moral value for him or her. They = provide a way of living that makes sense to the believer. After all, = science is only one way of making sense of the universe, and any good = scientist should know that science does not necessarily prove anything = either. It only states what is most probable. Thus science itself may = not always be the best answer. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71975.3693C759 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I also thought that the = movie on Tuesday was interesting.  It is good to see people who are = using parapsychological beliefs to exploit others for profit being = called to task.  However, several postings this week have focused = on some of the negative aspects of being overly skeptical.  I agree = that being overly skeptial can bias someone to invalidate other people's = beliefs.  Always using science to try to = disprove parapsychological beliefs may detract = from asking what functions such beliefs may have.  For = example, do they result in social cohesion among the believers? do they = result in a frame-work that is used to explain the "unexplainable" = thereby creating a sense of order in the universe? do they provide = moral structure for individuals to follow?  The fact that many = ideas of parapsychology (religion included) cannot be tested by = scientific methods need not mean that they are invalid.  What may = be important to the believer is not that there is no evidence for his = beliefs, but that these beliefs have moral value for him or = her.  They provide a way of living that makes sense to = the believer.  After all, science is only one way of = making sense of the universe, and any good scientist should know = that science does not necessarily prove anything either.  It only = states what is most probable.  Thus science itself may not always = be the best answer.  
------_=_NextPart_001_01C71975.3693C759-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 6 21:14:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:14:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: <279654.11231.qm@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> well, i thought this weeks movie and last weeks lecture were very interesting. I, for one, believe in some forms of paranormal activity (not cropcircles or psychics). Everyone has a "sixth sense", its the feeling you get in the pit of your stomach that guides your decision making and behavior in certain situations. It helps you decided when something feels wrong, or when it feels right. I've also had my own experiences with things that go bump in the night, and I'm not talking about literal bumping, I mean coming face to face with a very solid-looking human being that vanished before my eyes. I actually had my fiance with me (who I thought was asleep), but when HE reacted to it first, I knew I wasn't seeing things. How do ya explain that? I wasn't "searching" for "human features", it was a solid, human being who came around the corner, strolled through the living room and before he reached the kitchen, he dissipated. We checked the whole house (which is a small house) and we were the only one's there. We didn't feed off of eachother, either. It was quite creepy, and to this day, I won't go in my parents kitchen alone at night. So how do you explain something like that? If only I had had a camera! But even then, thats not considered significant evidence. I don't know...I believe in what I've seen with my very own eyes...and I'm skeptical. I try to find every other possible explanation before I decide theres something ELSE going on. Has anybody else had an experience like this? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 05:17:59 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (ryan green) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:17:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Over and Out... Message-ID: <552803.34785.qm@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-532795777-1165468679=:34785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear All, I hope everyone has enjoyed fall semester 2006! It's been an interesting ride; from perception to the paranormal. As we were learning a bit about parapsychology, I began to wonder why we, that is, people in general, are so fascinated by the "out-of-this-world", the supernatural and the metaphysical. And I said to myself something that went like this, "There must be something fundamentally attractive about it. And if there is something that is essentially attractive to us about it, then it's reasonable to think that supernatural phenomenona are fundamental parts to our existence." And if this is true, it makes sense that there are so many charlatans out there trying to make a buck off of something pure that we necessarily seek. Just like material necessities and fake Rolexes. Just like the sanctity of sexuality and pornography. Just like truth and lies. In the world we live in, every thesis has its antithesis. The antithesis is there to confuse our paths and distort reality. But, I hope that despite the fact that there are charlatans out there crouching like lions waiting to devour whomever they may, that everyone will continue to seek that which is pure and essential! Because, without the pure and essential, we are tragically lacking and fragmented. Happy Advent Season! Ryan Green --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. --0-532795777-1165468679=:34785 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear All,
 
I hope everyone has enjoyed fall semester 2006! It's been an interesting ride; from perception to the paranormal. As we were learning a bit about parapsychology, I began to wonder why we, that is, people in general, are so fascinated by the "out-of-this-world", the supernatural and the metaphysical. And I said to myself something that went like this, "There must be something fundamentally attractive about it. And if there is something that is essentially attractive to us about it, then it's reasonable to think that supernatural phenomenona are fundamental parts to our existence." And if this is true, it makes sense that there are so many charlatans out there trying to make a buck off of something pure that we necessarily seek. Just like material necessities and fake Rolexes. Just like the sanctity of sexuality and pornography. Just like truth and lies. In the world we live in, every thesis has its antithesis. The antithesis is there to confuse our paths and distort reality. But, I hope that despite the fact that there are charlatans out there crouching like lions waiting to devour whomever they may, that everyone will continue to seek that which is pure and essential! Because, without the pure and essential, we are tragically lacking and fragmented.   
 
Happy Advent Season!
Ryan Green


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thay video we watched cracked me up. he was so cynical and skeptical about everything.. and his sarcastic humor killed me. I enjoyed watching him make a fool of people claiming to possess paranormal power of some type. however, someone commented that his negative bias toward the world might be detrimental. I would have to agree with that. in my psychology of love class we learned that people are happier when they are basically wearing their rose-colored glasses. whether what they believe is true is not the important part. it's their perception of the world that allows them to be content with it. I think a constant skeptical outlook might make you feel like a hard-nosed realist, but it could also make you feel depressed, because the world sort of loses its mystery or wonder. but that's just my two bits.



From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:12:33 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:12:33 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fine Movements Message-ID: I was sitting in class the other day taking notes and it got me thinking about how amazing it is that we have such fine motor control to write like we do. We are able to take a small utensil and write a desired object that we want. I think there are so many processes that we perform on a daily basis without really thinking about how amazing and complex it is. I notice more and more abilities that I'm able to perform with ease, that are just awesome if you think about them in depth. I mean being able to write this message is perfect example of a complex process that is taken for granted. _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:30:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Problem Space Message-ID: After reading about problem space it got me thinking about how much I do this. When problem solving I always look at all the possible configurations that a problem could take. By looking at all the possibilities you are able to see many more solutions. Once you really understand and use this mode of thinking I feel that it aids you coming to a solution more rapidly. I love to read about processes in problem solving. I don't know if its because of this or if it just came naturally, but I can very easily solve like lind games and puzzles like the Tower of Hanoi puzzle. I find that I can see solution faster than my friends with little mind teasers games. All I know is that I am very glad to have my interest in the mind, logic, and problem solving and I am definitely going to further my knowledge on these topics. _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 19:47:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:47:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The Human Mind Message-ID: The other day my friend, who is some kind of computer major, was going on and on about how incredible computers are and much they can do. But after hearing him ramble on it made me realize just how amazing the human mind is! I mean, you can create anything in your mind. People think computers are amazing but computers are absolutely nothing compared to the human mind. Right now you can construct anything you desire in your mind. You can picture an object and and rotate it, twist it, turn it, and flip it with little effort. Computers have virtual tours of apartments and houses that can take you through a floor plan of a house. As you sit looking at the computer you can close your eyes and construct your house and mentally walk through every room in your mind. It is truly unbelievable that you can do things like this with such ease and on demand. I am just so blown away at what you can do with your mind. After my friend finally stopped with the worshipping of computer I shed a little light on just how insignificant computers are compared to the human mind. After I was done sharing my two sense he had nothing left to even say. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 20:44:31 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paul Rudd) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:44:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology - interpreting events In-Reply-To: <200612071911.kB7JAmnL024838@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <491614.81673.qm@web34809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> People use their own core schema's to decide how to interpret an event. So if the event is someone at a seance trying to contact the dead, chances are that the person will interpret any cue in the environment as a form of contact. When in actuality those creaky floor boards aren't your dead aunt Edna trying to communicate with the living. All events really are biased and judged according to someones core belief system. However, if your aunt Edna really is trying to communicate with you, just make sure that it's really happening and it's not your interpretation. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 7 22:19:51 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:19:51 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Tuesday's Video Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612071419s12fb572bk95783cc5f216e360@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought that the video was interesting. I actually thought that the most interesting part of the video was that guy. I was suprised at how dedicated he is to making sense of the mystical things. It was interesting to me. On a side note, it remineded me of the movie the prestige. that is also about illusions and things. Anyway, I thought is was cool that he was able to understnad all those things. I am not suprided about how many people believe in things that are supernatural. Essentially, anyone that is religious believes in something supernatural. I am interested in how that survey was taken though. anyway, this was a worthless posting. I have really enjoyed this class. I was really hesitant about taking cognitive psychology. I thought that it was going to be really borign and about memorizing parts of the brain or what not. I am glad that I was able to take it. I hope that I will be able to learn more about it in the future. -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought that the video was interesting.  I actually thought that the most interesting part of the video was that guy.  I was suprised at how dedicated he is to making sense of the mystical things.  It was interesting to me.  On a side note, it remineded me of the movie the prestige.  that is also about illusions and things.  Anyway,  I thought is was cool that he was able to understnad all those things.  I am not suprided about how many people believe in things that are supernatural.  Essentially, anyone that is religious believes in something supernatural.  I am interested in how that survey was taken though.

anyway, this was a worthless posting.  I have really enjoyed this class.  I was really hesitant about taking cognitive psychology.  I thought that it was going to be really borign and about memorizing parts of the brain or what not.  I am glad that I was able to take it.  I hope that I will be able to learn more about it in the future.

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Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_50403_13024730.1165529991057-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 08:49:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:49:25 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] paranormal occurences and objectivity In-Reply-To: <200612071911.kB7JAmnL024838@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
 
I have certainly experienced odd things before, and while it is happening, I'm sure there is something paranormal taking place. When I leave the heat of the moment, however, I usually try to think about what happened and come up with various ideas for the cause. Once we were in my friend's basement and we heard the front door open upstairs, then footsteps crossed the house, then the back door opened and shut. My friend grabbed his gun and we carefully checked it out. Oddly, both the front and back doors were still shut and locked, there were no cars in the driveway, and nobody nearby. My friend told me about how another time he was in his basement and heard a closet open upstairs and footsteps, but nobody else was in the house. He was sure it was a ghost, and at the time I was also sure. As I thought about it though, over time, I began wondering if there were any other possible causes. I thought about it more and thought that surely another explanation would be more likely and plausible. Perhaps his mom, dad or sister had walked through the house, locking the doors behind them, before going on an errand or something. It would be even more likely that a crazy person was wandering around aimlessly and happened to walk through the house, locking the doors behind him, than an apparation. I think people tend to come to conclusions quickly, and often these conclusions deserve to be re-evaluated while in a more objective state.
 
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Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 16:44:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Keith Radley) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:44:29 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] More on paranormal psychology Message-ID: --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was interested to see the inclusion of ESP cards on the class slides. Wh= en I first saw we were going to be discussing paranormal psychology, my tho= ughts immediately turned to Ghostbusters. I never really gave much thought= to the fact that people do experiments like Bill Murray was conducting in = the films opening. I think it would be interesting to see if anyone has do= ne any experiments similar to the one done in the film. Maybe it was based= on actual experiments in ESP. I think it would be interesting to particip= ate in an experiment like that one. I think I am pretty good at guessing. = Maybe I'm actually part psychic. How does one find out if you have ESP? = Is it only through one of these tests? _________________________________________________________________ Search from any Web page with powerful protection. Get the FREE Windows Liv= e Toolbar Today! http://get.live.com/toolbar/overview= --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was interested to see the inclusion of ESP cards on the class slide= s.  When I first saw we were going to be discussing paranormal psychol= ogy, my thoughts immediately turned to Ghostbusters.  I never really g= ave much thought to the fact that people do experiments like Bill Murray wa= s conducting in the films opening.  I think it would be interesting to= see if anyone has done any experiments similar to the one done in the film= .  Maybe it was based on actual experiments in ESP.  I think it w= ould be interesting to participate in an experiment like that one.  I = think I am pretty good at guessing.  Maybe I'm actually part psychic.&= nbsp; How does one find out if you have ESP?  Is it only through one o= f these tests?

Search from any Web page with powerful protection= . Get the FREE Windows Live Toolbar Today! Try it now! = --_4468e09b-d9ca-45fb-9b1d-2f9296be7e72_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 19:50:21 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Katie) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Hypnogogic hallucinations Message-ID: <4E9A09E16264024C80C968D5CFCCB7AB041C5D@xeoni.digitalbreakdown.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've always been pretty interested in the phenomenon of hypnogogic = hallucinations, the sometimes odd and hard to explain things that happen = to some people during the stages of falling to sleep or waking from = sleep. This is usually the scientific way to explain ghosts and alien = encounters that people report during the night. Sometimes sleep = paralysis can also occur during these vivid dream-like experiences, = which makes it seem even more frightening and real to people.=20 =20 My husband claims to have experienced this, and insists he's seen aliens = standing in the corner of the room (but oddly they haven't been back = since I've been around). I've explained the hynogogic state and what = happens to the mind and brain waves and how it accounts for what people = see and hear during these times, but I really think he wants to believe. = He affectionately calls them "the greys" and says that they are the = good, nice aliens. It's pretty funny.=20 =20 Katie Johnson =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I've always been pretty = interested in the phenomenon of hypnogogic hallucinations, the sometimes = odd and hard to explain things that happen to some people during the = stages of falling to sleep or waking from sleep. This is usually = the scientific way to explain ghosts and alien encounters that people = report during the night. Sometimes sleep paralysis can also occur during = these vivid dream-like experiences, which makes it seem even more = frightening and real to people.
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My husband claims to = have experienced this, and insists he's seen aliens standing in = the corner of the room (but oddly they haven't = been back since I've been around). I've explained the = hynogogic state and what happens to the mind and brain waves and = how it accounts for what people see and hear during these times, but = I really think he wants to believe. He affectionately calls them = "the greys" and says that they are the good, nice aliens. It's = pretty funny.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C71B02.1820BB12-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 8 21:32:55 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:32:55 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The end of class In-Reply-To: <200612081903.kB8J3Ps2008966@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
Hey guys I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the class this year. I really liked how detailed all of the information was. Dr. Strayer is also really good at answering any questions that we may have. He really knows his stuff and I really appreciate that from a professor because sometimes they don't really know what they are talking about. I especially liked learning about perception and all of the things to do with the eye. Well good luck to everyone on the final!!!
 
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I found that movie we watched this week very interesti= ng. I like seeing someone do something that would seem to be impossible and= then finding out how they really do it. I found it interesting though how = it is that some people instead of knowing that it is not real that they are= really just manipulating you believe that what the person is doing is real= . The Isreal guy who had so many people believe that he could read their mi= nds and know what he was thinking and even when it was shown that he really= couldn't do it people still believed in him still. When he went to Russia = where people were going to see the people claiming to have special powers i= nstead of seeing real doctors just amazed me. I could never imagine living = like that. It is just amazing what people will believe in so they can = have answers to their questions even though the answers may not be real and instead or dec= eiving.

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Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. --0-1535847535-1165700075=:78702-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 06:02:27 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ryan Boldrin) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:02:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final comment. In-Reply-To: <200612091902.kB9J225Y023820@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20061210060227.44982.qmail@web53610.mail.yahoo.com> I too have enjoyed the class. It brought a lot of distant Ideas together for me. I would like to continue to study these topics in the future. I have been studying the ideas of lucid dreaming for many years now. Some people (with practice) can enter into a state where they are consciously aware that they are dreaming while still engaged in the dream state. They are then able to control the events of the dream and create objects or have people appear in their dream at will. I have only been able to achieve this a handful of times but it is a sublime experience to say the least. There are many avenues of the mind that have not yet been explored... I sincerely wish you well on the final. Good Bye. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 18:05:58 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paige) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:05:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to say good luck on the test!! Also, how much I enjoyed the class. How Dr. Strayer presented his class in a way that was possible to actually learn what he was teaching. I think my favorite section was memory and how it all comes together. Learning all of that has helped figure out how to study more effectively and why. Thank you all on the message board for helping me better understand some concepts, and for helping me prepare for the tests. I wish you all the best of luck on the final exam. Also, Happy Winter Solstice!!!-Paige Baucom _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://dell.myway.com --MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just wanted to say good luck on the test!! Also, how much I enjoyed the class. How Dr. Strayer presented his class in a way that was possible to actually learn what he was teaching. I think my favorite section was memory and how it all comes together. Learning all of that has helped figure out how to study more effectively and why. Thank you all on the message board for helping me better understand some concepts, and for helping me prepare for the tests. I wish you all the best of luck on the final exam. Also, Happy Winter Solstice!!!
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--MYWAYBOUNDARY_000__473cd1515a0589db227365b34b30e485-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 19:45:37 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:45:37 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I thought that that movie was a good way to end the class. I liked seeing these “psychics” getting called out on their powers. It really helps make the point that there are explanations for the things that happen; only sometimes it is hard to come up with that explanation. I must say though it is fun to see tricks that you have no idea how they work, but then again I guess the fun part is figuring out how the trick is done. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 20:41:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lexi Breeze) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Hey! So for this week I thought I would just comment on the movie that we watched in class. I think it's awesome that the guy makes his living spilling other people's secrets, and the guy on The Late Show that got set up was hilarious. But it made me wonder why people get so upset when he shows them that they are really just fooling others. Like at that doctors office or the two psychic ladies. I think the main issue is that people are making their livings off of fooling others into believing what they do is real, and if they are put out in the open they won't be making such a great living anymore. But for other people who aren't actually doing it and just participating in it, I think it's more that they want something to believe in. I think the world would be too dull and depressing if there weren't mystical and spiritual things for people to have faith, hope and beliefs in. Therefore, they don't want you to screw this up for them, and they are going to be in denial when you do. They want to keep themselves going and hopeful so they need to hold on to whatever does that for them. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Dec 10 23:45:42 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jake Andreason) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:45:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: I just wanted to say good luck on the test to everyone. I've enjoyed this class and I thought the way the material was pesented made it enjoyable. For me this class has really got me interested in a few topics. I would like to continue reading up on human factors engineering. I think it's really interesting how this knowledge can determine the sucess of a product. It's been fun. _________________________________________________________________ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 00:44:34 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jacob Hansen) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID:


well it has been a great semester and i am so glad to be done with all of these e mails. who ever knew it would be so hard to remember sending of one silly e mail each week.  i am glad that i only missed four of them and not more.  but i am getting ready for the test this next week and will be so excited to be done with that as well, but most importantly for all of those who do not go to the review sessions i want to encourage you to attend because eve puts on a great show and helps with solving the essay questions brilliantly.  the movie that we watched was so amusing this last week especially when the guy from israel who could bend the spoons was on the tonight show and basically was shown how fraud he was. the most interesting part about that is he still had a very large following after that. i guess like they said in the movie is true we as humans want to believe what we want to and there is  no substitution for that.  thank you for the great semester




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 01:38:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sabreena Khan) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:38:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] the end. Message-ID: <137374.93385.qm@web55410.mail.re4.yahoo.com> all right, y'all. here we are; at the end. the class has been really great. it started out pretty easy for me, as i took sensation and perception. so a lot of what we learned in the beginning was a piece of cake. that quickly changed, though. and i'm happysome for that, indeed. we learned some pretty neat stuff that i was certainly able to use in conversation...haha. thank you everyone for the great questions in class and the thoughtful posts. one last question..is it just me, or does it seem like we didn't get that much information to answer these last study guide questions?? alas, it's probably just me focusing too heavily on that light at the end of the tunnel. ciao ciao. sabreena.khan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 02:56:44 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kasey lundgren) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:56:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] final posting Message-ID: <753414.27263.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit so i thought for my last posting i would just comment on my overall feelings about the class. I really liked taking this class this semester. when i first got in it i was scared that it would be so hard and boring but dr.strayer made this class very very interesting and fun. i thought his lessons were very thought out and explained well. the test were hard but they defiantly covered everything in class and there were no surprises when it came to the test, he always made it clear what was going to be on the test. Eve did a great job as the TA and her review sessions were so helpful i appreciated everything so much. i hope everyone does well on the final! peace! --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
so i thought for my last posting i would just comment on my overall feelings about the
class. I really liked taking this class this semester. when i first got in it i was scared that
it would be so hard and boring but dr.strayer made this class very very interesting and
fun. i thought his lessons were very thought out and explained well. the test were hard but
they defiantly covered everything in class and there were no surprises when it came
to the test, he always made it clear what was going to be on the test. Eve did a great
job as the TA and her review sessions were so helpful i appreciated everything so much.
i hope everyone does well on the final! peace!


Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-763423734-1165805804=:27263-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 03:01:51 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:01:51 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The ability to believe In-Reply-To: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20061210180558.E0100676A6@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <974DA23A-E99E-458B-B0A5-0B63F406A51C@impulsion-sim.com> In our discussion of parapsychology, I was surprised that there wasn't a section on human belief in a divine being. Gods are technically "supernatural" beings, and yet many who would scoff at a ghost believe whole heartedly in a God. A few years back I read a book which theorized that this belief in divine beings, a belief which most cultures share despite other differences, is some how a built in function of our psyche; something our brains created to explain our existence and other occurrences that we cannot explain any other way. In addition, I'd just like to thank Dr. Strayer and Eve so much for this semester's class! Eve, you're study sessions are the best and I've really learned a lot of applicable knowledge. Thanks so much! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:12:42 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Strokes In-Reply-To: <200612081903.kB8J3Ps2008966@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I enjoy cynicism myself, so I thought the movie was well done. It was definitely a good way to bring the semester to an end. I think science can be just as interesting as religion or magic. Some argue that scientists are too skeptical, thinking that science knows best. Some argue that religion, palm readings, and things of that sort are just ways to make life more interesting or palatable. I think that of all the fields of study, science and mathematics offer the most consensus. I’m not saying that the greater number is right. I’m just saying that science is really the only study that offers answers to questions. But hey, different strokes for different folks. _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:16:30 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:16:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] backward music Message-ID: I was bored the other day and I started looking up information about back-masking (playing music backwards to hear hidden messages) I found some cool websites that had some additional examples of supposed satanic dialog and secret messages. www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm I also stumbled upon the wikipedia entry for back-masking. It had some good information and discussed the skeptical view of the hidden messages. It basically said that we are great at finding patterns and are able to find patterns when there really aren't any. There are a few examples where hidden messages were really embedded into songs, but for the most part, it is just jibberish that with a little imagination can be interpreted as messages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking http://iusedtoworkfora.com/podcasts/Backwards.mp3 Reed _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 04:47:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Mitchell) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last modes Message-ID: Tuesdays video was great. It illustrated how much we want to believe in the extraordinary. I must admit I am a avid reader of horoscopes, I love seeing that new City Weekly in the crate on Thursdays! There are times when I am taken back by how accurate, or telling, I believe a horoscope to be; it is as if the author wrote it just for me as a sign that I am headed in the right, or wrong, direction. As Tuesdays video illustrated, how humans relate to the paranormal uncovers some of our tendencies. It shows that even though many may claim to not be religious they believe that, a higher power, or something beyond themselves is at work. It also demonstrates our craving for introspection, or to know ourselves better. We love people or things that can clarify our thoughts and give guidance to our lives. Believing in the paranormal makes people feel like their not alone, and that there is something or someone that is guiding their fate. Perhaps we are attracted to all of these magical things because they make us feel special and unique. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 18:39:06 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] parapsychology Message-ID: I agree that we want to believe that there is something greater than us out there, that is why all these things seem possible as extrordinary as they might be. I have never really believed in things like the horoscope, mostly because its always wrong about me and because how acurate can it be really if you integrate probably millions of people but that never stoped me from reading it occasionally, yeah it might be a waste of time, but its an enjoyable waste of time Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 20:16:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:16:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Psychics Message-ID: <20061211201648.27735.qmail@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought the movie in class was interesting as well. We viewed the people claiming psychic abilities as being nothing more than con artists, but it makes me wonder if this people are just doing it to get money off of people or if they really truly believe that they have these abilities. We also view the people "falling" for these psychic's tricks as, at best, extremely gullible, at worst, complete idiots, but could people "like us" fall for these tricks as well. We learned in class that people are not only suggestible, but we also learned that things we believe are real, aren't necessarily are (optical illusions). So I guess the answer would be yes, we are all susceptible to the tricks and scams of others. Which makes it increasingly important to be skeptical, which was the point Dr. Strayer was making. --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought the movie in class was interesting as well.  We viewed the people claiming psychic abilities as being nothing more than con artists, but it makes me wonder if this people are just doing it to get money off of people or if they really truly believe that they have these abilities.  We also view the people "falling" for these psychic's tricks as, at best, extremely gullible, at worst, complete idiots, but could people "like us" fall for these tricks as well.  We learned in class that people are not only suggestible, but we also learned that things we believe are real, aren't necessarily are (optical illusions).  So I guess the answer would be yes, we are all susceptible to the tricks and scams of others.  Which makes it increasingly important to be skeptical, which was the point Dr. Strayer was making. 


Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. --0-1103695664-1165868207=:27091-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Dec 11 21:26:32 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <377621.92161.qm@web31614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought the backwards music stuff was alittle far fetched. Most of the supposed "messages" didn't sound right...the only similarity I found in the majority of the examples we looked at were the syllables. Sure, they had the same syllables, matching the syllables in the "hidden message", but it didn't sound like the message that was supposed to be there. I think there ARE songs that have purposely placed hidden messages, but I also think people have way too much time on their hands. These are the effects of someone SEARCHING for something...maybe just like humans naturally look for facial patterns, maybe our ears works in much the same way: trying to make sense out of a jumble of auditory stimuli. I think this whole hidden messages thing is the simply the result of bored people who have nothing better to do with their time. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 01:57:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Becca Vrabel) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:57:56 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] postings Message-ID: When is the last week that we need to post messages? I enjoyed this class and feel like I learned quite a bit! =) _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 05:53:23 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dan Laxman) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:53:23 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Functional Fixedness In-Reply-To: <200612111902.kBBJ22FQ023395@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Final submission. I was thinking about funcitonal fixedness and how often I do that in problem solving. Functional fixedness is the tendency to use objects in a problem environment in only their customary way. I tried to come up with some examples from my own experiences, but I could more easily come up with examples of the opposite. For example, I was putting together a book shelf recently and had to hammer in some small nails. I didn't have a hammer with me and didn't want to walk clear out to the garage to get some, so I grabbed some pliers and started hammering with them which was not their customary use. (I eventually had to go out and get the hammer--the pliers just didn't do the job.) Of course, my grandpa was better at using tools in uncustomary ways. There were a few occassions when we were working on a project and I decided we needed to get another tool to take care of it. By the time I had returned, he had already taken care of it with the tools we had. I've wondered if functional fixedness could be used as a measure of intelligence. Dan From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 21:40:53 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Benjamin Divine) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Temporary Conclusion Message-ID: <20061212214053.81194.qmail@web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion." In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey. I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends. Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college. My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies. We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level. I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class. It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied: "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of." Good luck to all on the exam! --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion."  In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey.  I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends.  Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college.  My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies.  We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level.  I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class.  It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied:  "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of."  Good luck to all on the exam! 


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Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. --0-2054302539-1165960645=:59529-- --0-2014970582-1165960645=:59529 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [24.10.220.79] by web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 PST Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Divine Subject: Temporary Conclusion To: Cognitive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 951 --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion." In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey. I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends. Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college. My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies. We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level. I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class. It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied: "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of." Good luck to all on the exam! --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Being that this is my final post of our class, our final week of tests, and my final week as an undergrad, I thought it appropriate to name this post the "temporary conclusion."  In so many ways I am finishing up school yet I feel as if I have just begun my academic journey.  I have learned a great deal in Dr. Strayer's class and have recommended taking this course to many friends.  Despite each test being somewhat difficult I feel as though cognitive psychology can be applied to any other class I have taken thus far in college.  My only regret is not taking this course a bit earlier on in my studies.  We all owe Eve thanks for the work she has put in to helping us learn elements at a deeper and more parsimonious level.  I have been questioned by a family friend whom is a psychiatrist regarding the material we are covering in class.  It kind of took me by surprise but I answered him the best way I knew how and replied:  "Just about anything you can 'THINK' of."  Good luck to all on the exam! 


Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. --0-2086146516-1165959653=:80578-- --0-2014970582-1165960645=:59529-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Dec 12 22:58:21 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Adams) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:58:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last, final post Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020" ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 I just wanted to say thanks to Dr. Strayer and Eve for a fantastic = class. I expressed my concern over the difficulty of the class to both of them = before the semester even started. I was nervous about all the =93brain=94 = stuff. They both did a great job of making it easy to understand, not to mention interesting! So, thank you both! =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0046_01C71E06.5FFE8020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just wanted to say thanks to Dr. = Strayer and Eve for a fantastic class. I expressed my concern over the = difficulty of the class to both of them before the semester even started. I was = nervous about all the “brain” stuff. They both did a great job of making = it easy to understand, not to mention interesting! So, thank you = both!

 

 

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Message-ID: <10F0A00DF2B1C141ACE8EADC2FBC364101542C38@mail.sa.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just starting to study for the final and I just was briefly = looking over all the concepts that we covered in this class-- it is = crazy how much I learned in this class. I would have to say that the = most interesting, for me, was probably either the eye or maybe = attention. I still can't get over the video that we watch of the people = passing the basketball wearing the white shirts and I didn't even see = the GORILLA walk into the scene and pound his chest!!! I still am = shocked that I completely missed that! Anyway, this was a great class-- = good luck on the final! -Kari Johnson- Williams ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I was just starting to = study for the final and I just was briefly looking over all the concepts = that we covered in this class-- it is crazy how much I learned in this = class. I would have to say that the most interesting, for me, was = probably either the eye or maybe attention. I still can't get over the = video that we watch of the people passing the basketball wearing the = white shirts and I didn't even see the GORILLA walk into the scene and = pound his chest!!! I still am shocked that I completely missed that! = Anyway, this was a great class-- good luck on the final!
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C71E42.7D09A0AA-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 13 00:15:01 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Emily Slager) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:15:01 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays In-Reply-To: <759c1ffd0612111029l6a1bef34t228bc64bc763254d@mail.gmail.com> References: <759c1ffd0612111029l6a1bef34t228bc64bc763254d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <759c1ffd0612121615h11b9e693q3f178a8df650f4d8@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Emily Slager Date: Dec 11, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays To: Angela Eve Miller , Eve.Miller@psych.utah.edu For my messege this week, I will discuss the final essay questions. I'll just say what the main point will be for each of them. It will be a good review for me to refresh my mind and maybe give some tips for those who have yet to write theirs out yet. #1: Anderson's ACT model describes proceduralization. The working memory directly triggers behavior. It is an "If x, then I do y(the production)". #2: John Andersonbelieves that skill acquision is made by the procedures getting strengthened and therefore quickened. It is doing the steps A-->B-->C-->D all in one step "If A-->B,C,D". But is an expert doing the same act as a novice only quicker? Logan believes thta automaticity is produced by many memories built up. Therefore the time to complete a task has more memories to draw from and will therefore be quicker (by laws of statistics). #3: There are 8 Heuristics to discuss for this essay question: Availability: (thinking easy-to-recall) things are more prevelant. Representativeness: We make estimates on how representative an event is of its population and forgetting the "base rates". Anchoring: weighing more to earlier evidence than to later. As If: All information given is treated "as if" it had equal reliability. The last 4 are Symbolic comparison, Symbolic Distance, Congruity Effect and Mental Representations. #4: 4 ways to improve my problem-solving skills. Follow a systematic plan: basically--designing a plan that will get you to your goal efficieently. Draw inferences: (I need a real-life example of this one). Develop sub-goals: Some problems may be very large and require solving steps along the way to reach a final conclusion. Work backwards: (obvious explanation) and Search for Contradictions: I don't understand this one at all...go Review Sessions! #5: PDP models take from Biological models of the brain and apply them to many everyday models. The Hidden layer makes these models extremely smart and accurate at predicting outcomes. I don't understand the Matrix. #6: Being skeptical means not believing everything you are told. It means believing education and academic works over laypeople and pop culture. It means demanding great evidence and asking great questions. It means looking for other logical explanations of things. It also means having great experiment set-ups to test the "paranormal". Hope this helps! Good Luck! Emily Slager ------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Emily Slager <emily.slager@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 11, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Final Messege for the Board: Final Essays
To: Angela Eve Miller <Eve.Miller@utah.edu>, Eve.Miller@psych.utah.edu

For my messege this week, I will discuss the final essay questions. I'll just say what the main point will be for each of them.  It will be a good review for me to refresh my mind and maybe give some tips for those who have yet to write theirs out yet. 
#1:  Anderson's ACT model describes proceduralization.  The working memory directly triggers behavior.  It is an "If x, then I do y(the production)".
#2:  John Andersonbelieves that skill acquision is made by the procedures getting strengthened and therefore quickened.  It is doing the steps A-->B-->C-->D all in one step "If A-->B,C,D".  But is an expert doing the same act as a novice only quicker?  Logan believes thta automaticity is produced by many memories built up. Therefore the time to complete a task has more memories to draw from and will therefore be quicker (by laws of statistics). 
#3: There are 8 Heuristics to discuss for this essay question:  Availability: (thinking easy-to-recall) things are more prevelant.  Representativeness: We make estimates on how representative an event is of its population and forgetting the "base rates".  Anchoring: weighing more to earlier evidence than to later.  As If: All information given is treated "as if" it had equal reliability. The last 4 are Symbolic comparison, Symbolic Distance, Congruity Effect and Mental Representations.
#4:  4 ways to improve my problem-solving skills.  Follow a systematic plan: basically--designing a plan that will get you to your goal efficieently.  Draw inferences: (I need a real-life example of this one).  Develop sub-goals:  Some problems may be very large and require solving steps along the way to reach a final conclusion.  Work backwards: (obvious explanation) and Search for Contradictions: I don't understand this one at all...go Review Sessions!
#5:  PDP models take from Biological models of the brain and apply them to many everyday models.  The Hidden layer makes these models extremely smart and accurate at predicting outcomes.  I don't understand the Matrix. 
#6:  Being skeptical means not believing everything you are told.  It means believing education and academic works over laypeople and pop culture.  It means demanding great evidence and asking great questions.  It means looking for other logical explanations of things.  It also means having great experiment set-ups to test the "paranormal".

  Hope this helps!  Good Luck!
     Emily Slager
------=_Part_39924_29053035.1165968901794-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Dec 13 04:16:56 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Murdock) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Review In-Reply-To: <200612130003.kBD03D0e014298@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:
I gotta thank Eve for running all the reviews really well. She seems to know a lot about the subject especially being an undergraduate. Well hopefully all goes well with this test, and it is really easier than the last one. I felt really burnt out studying for the last one because that was a lot of stuff. Well thanks again Eve, and good luck to everyone on the test!!!
 
Kyle Murdock


MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 01:02:13 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jolene stehlin) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:02:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: After the review on Tuesday, I have to say that I feel pretty confident going into the final. I really feel like I've learned a lot this semester. My favorite section was on memory. The information I gained during that portion of lectures is something that I will benefit from greatly in the future. It helped to change the way I take notes, listen during lectures and my study habits. I have enhoyed this class a lot and hope to continue to learn about cognitive psychology. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 01:06:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (tucker voss) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:06:25 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: this is my last post and it might be too late, so I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this class. I want to say thanks to both Dr. Strayer for coming up with interesting lectures and Eve for all the help throughout the semester, and for the review sessions. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. http://ideas.live.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 05:30:35 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Gordon) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:30:35 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post. In-Reply-To: <200612131903.kBDJ2XKT028304@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I guess this will be my last post. I want to thank Eve for all the help and support with the tests. A standing ovation to Dr. Strayer for an interesting and well executed class. I also want to thank all my post-fans, my loyal readers. You’ve been great; thank you for the responses. This post makes fourteen, which should make an A for the Modes of Learning class. It’s nice to have another semester out of they way. It’s even nicer to have tons of memory skills and knowledge for my remaining semesters. I enjoyed the first section the best, though it has all been informing. The eye and visual perception is quite the phenomenon to me. Thanks again. _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 06:48:32 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Brett Larsen) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Music Message-ID: I really think it is hilarious that people back in the seventies would be so paranoid about music runing their childrens minds that they would really believe that bands would take the time to put demented messages into their music. I think the only one i can believe even had a message in it was the pink floyd song that said "congratulations you found the message", and obviously they were making fun of the fact that people would be trying to find backwards messages in their music. And anyway who the hell has enough time to actually do that. I have listened to that pink floyd album about a thousand times and i have never thought to myself "oh that must have been a backwards message, ill try it out." _________________________________________________________________ WIN up to $10,000 in cash or prizes – enter the Microsoft Office Live Sweepstakes http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0050001581mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 20:00:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ariann Beglarian) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] good luck and goodbye Message-ID: <227353.48560.qm@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> just wanted to wish everyone luck on the upcoming exam! I've learned a lot in this class this semester and it has always been interesting. I hope everyone enjoys the break (I know I will) and I'll see some of you next semester! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 20:43:34 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reed Dow) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] brain models. In-Reply-To: <200612141903.kBEJ2YtI014448@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I really enjoyed this class and learned a lot. I think my favorite part was just recently when we talked about the new models of how the brain functions and how we can create simulations of these models with computers. It seems like our models of brain functioning are constantly growing in complexity and are getting better at describing how thoughts are formed, memories stored and retrieved, and information processed. Perhaps in a decade, or more, the models of brain functioning will be able to describe consciousness, an idea as abstract and unquantifiable as thought was 100 years ago. Anyway, thanks a lot Dr. Strayer, this class was great. And thank you Eve for your help throughout the semester and for the review sessions. _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Dec 14 22:14:38 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (laura cervantes) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:14:38 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] final message Message-ID: I just want to say that I really enjoyed this class, I learned a lot but it was a little bit more difficult than i first imagened it would be. the concepts are interesting but they are difficult at least for me. I found the first part of the class, the hardest because it had so many technicalities that just was overwhelming but Eve's review sessions did help a lot Laura Brunello _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 00:47:20 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Darin Mano) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:47:20 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final exam Message-ID: <3b4d82fa0612141647r5e5be4c5q6033517ffe6ab8f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_169908_30733735.1166143640482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not able to make it to the review on tuesday. Did eve say what were the most important things to study? Does anyone have notes or anything? I specifically have question on the first two questions. If anyone has a chance, let me know. However, this e-mail will probably not even make it out in time -- Darin M. Mano ------=_Part_169908_30733735.1166143640482 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was not able to make it to the review on tuesday.  Did eve say what were the most important things to study?  Does anyone have notes or anything?  I specifically have question on the first two questions.  If anyone has a chance, let me know.  However, this e-mail will probably not even make it out in time

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well i did not kow if we were supposed to post again this week so to be safe here is another one by me so i saw people were posting about the review session and saying how they felt confident and such, i wish i could say the same for myself, i get so nervous and sometimes that effects me during the test and i cannot recall the information that i need to. as hard as i study it never seems to fail. so i do want to say that the review sessions help so much because they at least get me pointed in the right direction.  like some of my other classes this semester the teacher hands out a four page review for the test and like 75 percent is not even on the test so i feel like i have wasted so much of my time.  i must say that i have never felt like this about this class it has been great and i just hope that i do not have to take it again.....




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 06:21:10 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aubrey Wilkinson) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The end. In-Reply-To: <200612141903.kBEJ2YtI014448@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:

I guess I've gotta do this one more time. I think? maybe. anyway.. I just wanted to say how interesting I thought this class was, along with the rest of you. I thought Dr. Strayer did a really good job presenting the material in a way that captured our attention and made us think critically about the subjects at hand. he showed us why it's important to look at the world from a somewhat skeptical point of view. I also really thought Eve did a great job with her review sessions. I was very impressed with both of them. go team Cognitive Psych! kbye.

From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 18:59:50 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (hailey Woodside) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] last post Message-ID:

So, I am really not interested in cognitive psychology at all, but this class has actually been really interesting. I learned alot of stuff and I actually found the class to be really enjoyable. I am glad that Eve and Dr. Strayer made the class really interesting, it was nice to have instructors who were so interested in what they were teaching!

Hailey


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I just wanted to say that i am very concerned with the true false questions from the exam, i hate to second guess myself but i guess that is my nature.  the exam besides that was great i felt that i was prepaired and could do nothing more to get ready for it.  It has been so helpful this semester to have such a great graduate assistant i figured that out because i had another class were the communication between the instructor and the graduate student was not so hot and it has frustrated me all semester long.  i am so glad that this was not the case with this class, i cannot say enough good things about it. thanks




JAKE
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:41:24 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paul Rudd) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] skeptic approach In-Reply-To: <200612151903.kBFJ2XT0000051@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I totally believe in having a skeptical approach. Having a skeptical approach means not taking information at face value. But looking into outrageous claims and finding out the facts for yourself. Too many people simple believe what their friends and family have told them, or even worse, someone they believe is magical. The skeptical approach doesn't just apply to aliens and faces on mars but to all things. Even things you learn at the University need to be taken in with some skepticism. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:47:26 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kim Endersen) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:47:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final Post Message-ID: <20061215194726.15419.qmail@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Eve for getting this one last post in. I just wanted to say that this class was very worthwhile for me. Being a senior, I have taken alot of psychology classes, and this one presented information in a way that was completely new to me. My favorite subject had to be the section we did on memory and how we could use mnemonics and other memory devices to better remember and recall things. I was taking a class that I was having some trouble in and I used those techniques and they made a huge difference in my test scores. Anyways, thanks Dr.Strayer and thanks again Eve. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Eve for getting this one last post in.  I just wanted to say that this class was very worthwhile for me.  Being a senior, I have taken alot of psychology classes, and this one presented information in a way that was completely new to me.  My favorite subject had to be the section we did on memory and how we could use mnemonics and other memory devices to better remember and recall things.  I was taking a class that I was having some trouble in and I used those techniques and they made a huge difference in my test scores.  Anyways, thanks Dr.Strayer and thanks again Eve.

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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1196886873-1166212046=:15061-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:52:46 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:46 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Thought Message-ID: ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U. The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me. Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating. This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U.  The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me.  Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating.  This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194967_21249624.1166212366420-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 19:53:35 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Claudia Guarderas) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Final Thought Message-ID: ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U. The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me. Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating. This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This has been one of the most interesting classes I have taken at the U.  The different and very complex ways in which the brain works will never cease to amaze me.  Of all the themes discussed, I found thought processing and everything that influence our very many ideas to be the most fascinating.  This has been successfully entertainig and iinstructional. ------=_Part_194987_2813901.1166212415643-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 22:18:45 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennie Ruff) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:18:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Phew. In-Reply-To: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <983638.15728.qm@web34810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cognitive Psychology was certainly an interesting class; I'll never again think of studying for a test, forgetting my keys, or the psychic in the newspaper the same way again. When we began this class I figured that most of the information would be the kind of thing you wouldn't ever use in everyday life; now I find myself explaining everything for the behavior of politicians to my "inherited" forgetfullness using information from class. Very interesting. I'm glad this class was available. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Dec 15 23:17:20 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ryan Boldrin) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:17:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Final In-Reply-To: <200612151903.kBFJ2XT0000051@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <20061215231720.75917.qmail@web53606.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Dave and Eve for a great semester. This was by far my favorite class. It tied together many different concepts from other classes. A little neuropsychology,a little brain structure, basic cognition processing and splash of color, and there you go. Good luck to all. The final went great today and I anticipate doing fairly well. - Ryan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 01:05:25 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Michelle Zur) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:05:25 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] last one In-Reply-To: <20061215194726.15419.qmail@web35306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID:

I was disapointed in myself when it came to this class. This semester was nothing short of hell for me, not to mention I was burnt out before it had even started. It wasn't a help that there was no way I could have recovered from my first test score, and so I am glad it is all over.



Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 03:00:29 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:00:29 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Decision making Message-ID: When I read through the section that covers decision making and ways to improve your decision making, I had to put them to the test. Now I know that I usually use these types of techniques without thinking about it, but over the past week I have been using things like working backwards, making sub goals, searching for contradictions, and representing problems graphically. I found that when I am knowingly picking a single strategy that it really is a huge help to solving my various problems. Now that I am aware of these strategies and I have put them to the test, I am definitely going to think about and use them allot more often. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 03:13:47 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JESSE SITTERUD) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:13:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Skeptic Message-ID: I have always been told that I have a skeptic attitude. I never believe anything unless it can be proven to be true. I always ask questions about everything. I enjoy finding and hearing explanations about everything and anything. I think that my skeptical approach to things is a main contributor to my interest in psychology. I think that a skeptical attitude is a very good thing to have when it comes to psychology. It brings a natural since of interest in explanations of behaviors and emotions. It drives me to research things out and aids in complex cognitive thinking _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Dec 16 19:46:03 2006 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Katie) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:46:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <4E9A09E16264024C80C968D5CFCCB7AB041C6B@xeoni.digitalbreakdown.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7214A.D1D91F74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As every one else seemed to, I also really enjoyed this class. I think = my favorite part was on memory, and in general how complex all of our = cognitive systems are is truly amazing. I've learned to be skeptical not = only of things in the outside world, but also of my OWN memories and = perceptions, because they are not always what they seem to be either. = Really interesting and fun class, it was also difficult but Dr. Strayer = and Eve made it also very fun and easier to understand. thank you.=20 Katie Johnson ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7214A.D1D91F74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As every one else seemed to, I also really enjoyed = this class. I think my favorite part was on memory, and in general how = complex all of our cognitive systems are is truly amazing. I've learned = to be skeptical not only of things in the outside world, but also of my = OWN memories and perceptions, because they are not always what they seem = to be either. Really interesting and fun class, it was also difficult = but Dr. Strayer and Eve made it also very fun and easier to understand. = thank you.

Katie Johnson

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I gained a lot from cognitve psychology. It really gave me a appreication of how complex cognition is. It is iimpossible to even fully comprehend the complexities of our perceptual system. This class also demostrated the extent to which we as humans create a reality all of our own. When Dr Stayer gave the lecture on illusions I truely could not believe that many could examples could possibly be true. This class also made me realize how litte I know about the workings of the human body. Before this class if someone were to ask me about the working of the eye I would not have much to say. I wasn't even aware to the presence of the blind spot in our vision which is so interesting that I can not believe that more people are not aware of its presence. This class also showed me how important a skeptical approach to information is. It is all too easy to believe everything you read without questioning how the results were obtaIned. Before taking this class if I were to see that magician bending the spoon of I would have believed that he truely possesd magical powers. I feel forunate to be in major that exposes me to such interesting information. Thanks Eve (I hope you can still accept this)


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