From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 02:57:45 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception and Attention
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Today’s lecture really intrigued me. I took a visual communication class for my other major and since having done so I have come to have an amazing fascination for the power of sight. Near the start of the lecture when Dr. Strayer mentioned that sight is the most powerful of all the senses, it reminded me of an example of this that my professor used to demonstrate this as true. He showed a clip of a movie for one fifteenth of a second and the majority of the class recognized the movie. He afterwards played a sound clip of a popular pop song for a whole minute and very few people could recognize it.
The entire visual process is amazing. It seems instantaneous to us and yet the object must enter the pupil (which I just learned is an actual hole) and that which is in the right visual field travels through the optic nerve and is then projected to the left visual cortex and vise versa. What I just mentioned isn’t even a portion of the entire process. Wow, what an amazing feat.
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Today’s lecture really intrigued me. I took a visual communication class for my other major and since having done so I have come to have an amazing fascination for the power of sight. Near the start of the lecture when Dr. Strayer mentioned that sight is the most powerful of all the senses, it reminded me of an example of this that my professor used to demonstrate this as true. He showed a clip of a movie for one fifteenth of a second and the majority of the class recognized the movie. He afterwards played a sound clip of a popular pop song for a whole minute and very few people could recognize it.
The entire visual process is amazing. It seems instantaneous to us and yet the object must enter the pupil (which I just learned is an actual hole) and that which is in the right visual field travels through the optic nerve and is then projected to the left visual cortex and vise versa. What I just mentioned isn’t even a portion of the entire process. Wow, what an amazing feat.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 16:01:34 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] correction
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I said that my professor played a sound bite for a whole minute, what I meant to say was that he played one for one second in comparison to the one fifteenth of a second that he showed a movie clip.
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I said that my professor played a sound bite for a whole minute, what I meant to say was that he played one for one second in comparison to the one fifteenth of a second that he showed a movie clip.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 22:56:19 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alissa Nielson)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:56:19 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception and Attention
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I was not surprised when Dr. Strayer said that sight is the most powerful =
of all the senses. When talking with friends, deciding what disability =
would be the hardest to cope with I have always believed sight would be. I =
am grateful everyday for it. I can imagine feeling or touch as being a =
very close second, imagine, you couldn't feel yourself walking or sitting!
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But like Dan said about the 15th of a second for the video clip and a =
whole second for a popular song, I imagine trying to guess what something =
is by seeing it versus feeling it would be a lot easier. It reaffirms just =
how much I use my eyes. I would like to know how it has been decided that =
sight is the most powerful sense besides maybe reasoning. Maybe it is in =
the text book....I was trying to follow the syllabus so I didn't read =
chapter 3 yet.
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The whole video clip and sound clip idea would be a good experiment, maybe =
using a more familiar sound. Your eyes can recognize something right when =
they see it but for a song it has notes that fluctuate and different =
pauses and holds and so many songs use two or so of the same note =
frequency that it really would be hard to guess a song for just one =
second. But an individual person's face, a fruit or a color doesn't have =
such different possibilities, it is what it is. Maybe there are sounds =
that are what they are too, like ONE specific note or a 'piano playing'.
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Maybe eyes are more powerful because we can see more of that range than we =
can of the hearing range. I can see my desk, it is right in front of me, =
but just because I can't hear my desk doesn't mean it isn't making =
noise...
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I was not surprised when Dr. Strayer said that sight is the most =
powerful of all the senses. When talking with friends, deciding what =
disability would be the hardest to cope with I have always =
believed sight would be. I am grateful everyday for it. I can imagine =
feeling or touch as being a very close second, imagine, you couldn't feel =
yourself walking or sitting!
But like Dan said about the 15th of a second for the video clip and a =
whole second for a popular song, I imagine trying to guess what s=
omething is by seeing it versus feeling it would be a lot easier. It =
reaffirms just how much I use my eyes. I would like to know how it has =
been decided that sight is the most powerful sense besides maybe reasoning.=
Maybe it is in the text book....I was trying to follow the syllabus so I =
didn't read chapter 3 yet.
The whole video clip and sound clip idea would be a good experiment, =
maybe using a more familiar sound. Your eyes can recognize something right =
when they see it but for a song it has notes that fluctuate and =
different pauses and holds and so many songs use two or so of the same =
note frequency that it really would be hard to guess a song for just o=
ne second. But an individual person's face, a fruit or a color =
doesn't have such different possibilities, it is what it is. Maybe there =
are sounds that are what they are too, like ONE specific note or a 'piano =
playing'.
Maybe eyes are more powerful because we can see more of that range =
than we can of the hearing range. I can see my desk, it is right in front =
of me, but just because I can't hear my desk doesn't mean it =
isn't making noise...
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 23:10:56 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception and Attention
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I know the subject is just getting started, and I am
glad we are starting with the whole idea of
'perception'. I have studied a little about neuro
processing, in which eye accessing cues are used to
see what or how someone perceives a variety of
information. It is intriguing, especially as I read
about how the eye itself operates. Eye accessing cues
work within this, as ways to see how someone
internalizes and codes the information they receive-
either by memory, or association, or both. One can
'see' something, but the 'perception' of that
something is entirely different, and I think this is
an important point in working with people in any given
context. What they see or perceive may be different
from me...
-Andrea Kalvesmaki
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From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Psy 3120- Perception and Attention
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 23 23:48:39 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alyssa Messina)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:48:39 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest
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Like David Dunn mentioned, I have also taken a visual communications class as a way of tying in an interest in both psychology and design. As a former pre-architecture major, I was interested in learning more about why we perceive certain patterns or shapes as visually pleasing. In the comm. class we also covered the basics of how the eye works and the physiology of sight, but what I found most intriguing was not necessarily how we see, but what we see- why certain aspects of our visual environment tend to catch our attention more often than others. I think it is fascinating just how much of our perceptive abilities go unnoticed because they are seemingly innate. We take for granted the evolutionary process that yielded an inherent ability to interpret the visual cues that are necessary to successfully interact with our environment and
to survive. Being drawn to a particular visual stimulus, then, often has more of a biological basis than is generally recognized. It will be interesting to learn more about perception from a more behavioral standpoint now rather than from a mainly aesthetic perspective.
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>Today’s lecture really intrigued me. I took a visual communication class for my other major and since having done so I have come to have an amazing fascination for the power of sight. Near the start of the lecture when Dr. Strayer mentioned
that sight is the most powerful of all the senses, it reminded me of an example of this that my professor used to demonstrate this as true. He showed a clip of a movie for one fifteenth of a second and the majority of the class recognized the movie. He afterwards played a sound clip of a popular pop song for a whole minute and very few people could recognize it.
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> The entire visual process is amazing. It seems instantaneous to us and yet the object must enter the pupil (which I just learned is an actual hole) and that which is in the right visual field travels through the optic nerve and is then projected to the left visual cortex and vise versa. What I just mentioned isn’t even a portion of the entire process. Wow, what an amazing feat.
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one fifteenth of a second and the majority of the class recognized the movie.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He afterwards played a sound clip of a popular pop song for a whole minute and very few people could recognize it.</FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
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visual field travels through the optic nerve and is then projected to the left visual cortex and vise versa.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What I just mentioned isn’t even a portion of the entire process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wow, what an amazing feat.</FONT></div><p>
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From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:52:08 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 -- confirmation of subscription -- request 783598
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My question is, as a class will we explore the clinical significance of
cognitive psychology? Will we talk about irrational beliefs, and how a
psychologist deals with this in a clinical setting? Will we discuss the
relationship between thoughts, behaviors and emotions? These are all
questions that I hope we cover as a class. Looking over the syllabus it
seems we will be spending a great deal of time on memory perception and
problem solving. I hope that we discuss as well the clinical impact of
cognitive psychology? What point that I enjoyed learning in the first week
is that a persons expectations affect the memory's they create. I would
like to learn more about that. My last question is, is this an appropriate
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My question is, as a class will we explore the clinical significance of cognitive psychology? Will we talk about irrational beliefs, and how a psychologist deals with this in a clinical setting? Will we discuss the relationship between thoughts, behaviors and emotions? These are all questions that I hope we cover as a class. Looking over the syllabus it seems we will be spending a great deal of time on memory perception and problem solving. I hope that we discuss as well the clinical impact of cognitive psychology? What point that I enjoyed learning in the first week is that a persons expectations affect the memory's they create. I would like to learn more about that. My last question is, is this an appropriate post to the message board????
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 24 02:06:06 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Yoshida Taihei)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:06:06 +0900
Subject: [Psych3120] Blind Spot
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I enjoyed the lecture this week. When I was listening about blind spot, I was remembering the example of blind spot in daily? situation. Actually, I learned about eye mecahanism from another class, and my friend told me one example. I hope it will help you to bring the information about it to real situation.In the boxing fight, even though they are professional, sometimes they are hit to their head/ face easily. It happens when opposition punch in their blind spot. He said people can't pucn in people's blind spot in purpose, but sometimes it happens accidentaly. When it happens boxers will recognize oppositions' puch late. Even though it is just a comma few seconds, since they can't see the puch, they are hit.
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I enjoyed the lecture this week. When I was listening about blind spot, I was remembering the example of blind spot in daily? situation. Actually, I learned about eye mecahanism from another class, and my friend told me one example. I hope it will help you to bring the information about it to real situation.
In the boxing fight, even though they are professional, sometimes they are hit to their head/ face easily. It happens when opposition punch in their blind spot. He said people can't pucn in people's blind spot in purpose, but sometimes it happens accidentaly. When it happens boxers will recognize oppositions' puch late. Even though it is just a comma few seconds, since they can't see the puch, they are hit.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 24 03:26:09 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Davenport)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:26:09 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception and Sensation
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I really enjoyed learning about the eye and the way we visually percieve th=
ings. I have learned about this before but never in such great detail. I =
found it really interesting how we have a blind spot in each eye and that o=
ur mind does the rest of the work by filling it in with what we think is th=
ere! The eye is such a complex and amazing thing. I found it interesting t=
o to know what exactly is being done during LASIK surgery. We hear about pe=
ople getting it done all the time, but to actually know what is being done =
is pretty cool. It is so amazing that re-structuring the cornea could make =
a positively altered eye sight. I really enjoyed learning about the eye, i=
t makes me appreciate the complexity of it and how everything that i am abl=
e to do everyday could not be done without my two magnificent eyes!!!
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and that our mind does the rest of the work by filling it in with what we t=
hink is there! The eye is such a complex and amazing thing. I found i=
t interesting to to know what exactly is being done during LASIK surgery.&n=
bsp;We hear about people getting it done all the time, but to actually know=
what is being done is pretty cool. It is so amazing that re-structuring th=
e cornea could make a positively altered eye sight. I really enjoyed =
learning about the eye, it makes me appreciate the complexity of it and how=
everything that i am able to do everyday could not be done without my two =
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 24 05:46:17 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject)
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I never knew the cornea played such a large role in vision. I always thought vision was solely determined by the shape of the eye. I also thought it was interesting to learn that Lasik surgery just focuses on the cornea. I ignorantly thought the surgery somehow changed the whole shape of the eye.
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I never knew the cornea played such a large role in vision. I always thought vision was solely determined by the shape of the eye. I also thought it was interesting to learn that Lasik surgery just focuses on the cornea. I ignorantly thought the surgery somehow changed the whole shape of the eye.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 24 18:13:35 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Smith)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:13:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Color Blindness
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One of the highlight's of last week's lecture that I found interesting was the topic of being color blind. I really have never really given much thought to people that are color blind. I only know one person that is color blind and have wondered if this person can just see black and white, like watching a black and white movie. This seems to be quite rare. I was just wondering, is there a cure for color blindness?
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One of the highlight's of last week's lecture that I found interesting was the topic of being color blind. I really have never really given much thought to people that are color blind. I only know one person that is color blind and have wondered if this person can just see black and white, like watching a black and white movie. This seems to be quite rare. I was just wondering, is there a cure for color blindness?
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 24 22:47:29 2007
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:47:29 -0600
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 25 02:36:20 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda French)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:36:20 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] What a great tool
Message-ID:
I just logged onto our course website and was surprised to find that so many people have already posted comments already! There were many insightful and interesting posts. Apparently I am not that smart, however, as I didn't see a place where I could respond directly to a previous post (within the same thread). If someone could let me know how to do that I would really appreciate it!
Well, class seems interesting so far! I'm excited to have this message board to communicate with everyone! Hopefully through this we'll be able to apply and understand more of what we've learned through real-world experiences and stories.
Now you can see trouble…before he arrives
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 25 03:25:56 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:25:56 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Peripheral Vision
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 25 05:06:48 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kandis Beverley)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:06:48 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] First week; Perception
Message-ID:
I hope I did this right. I'm not so hot with computers.
I also liked that we started with perception. When I was in High school, I started noticing that the board was getting blurry. I had no idea what was going on, no one else in my family had eye problems. I found out that I was rear-sighted, ( I could see up close, but not far away) but I didn't really know what that ment or what was accually wrong until Wednesday. I thought that it was amazing that my eye was shaped like an oval which caused the focus to not quite reach the back of the eye, I believe it was the fovea, correct me if im wrong. I really like when I learn thing that I can apply to my life. Information means nothing if you can't apply it!
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>From: "Amanda French"
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:36:20 -0700
>Subject: [Psych3120] What a great tool
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>
>
I just logged onto our course website and was
>surprised to find that so many people have already posted comments already!
>There were many insightful and interesting posts. Apparently I am not that
>smart, however, as I didn't see a place where I could respond directly
>to a previous post (within the same thread). If someone could let me know
>how to do that I would really appreciate it!
>
Well, class seems interesting so far! I'm excited to
>have this message board to communicate with everyone! Hopefully through
>this we'll be able to apply and understand more of what we've learned
>through real-world experiences and stories.
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>From: "JAMES C HINCKLE"
>To: "Psych 3120-Modes \(Cog. Psych\)"
>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:25:56 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] Peripheral Vision
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>Message: 4
>From: "Kandis Beverley"
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:06:48 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] First week; Perception
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>
> I hope I did this
>right. I'm not so hot with computers.
>
I also liked that we started with
>perception. When I was in High school, I started noticing that the board
>was getting blurry. I had no idea what was going on, no one else in my
>family had eye problems. I found out that I was rear-sighted, ( I could see
>up close, but not far away) but I didn't really know what that ment or what
>was accually wrong until Wednesday. I thought that it was amazing that
>my eye was shaped like an oval which caused the focus to not quite
>reach the back of the eye, I believe it was the fovea, correct me if im
>wrong. I really like when I learn thing that I can apply to my life.
>Information means nothing if you can't apply it!
>
-Kandis Beverley
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 05:44:48 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Steve Best)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Colorblindness
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It is amazing how we take some things for granted that others must struggle and work for to overcome. We constantly use our sight to differentiate color in ways we don't even think about. Traffic signals, lighted signs of all types, brightly colored menus, highlighted and different colored text, etc.; all taken in stride every waking moment of our day - unless one is colorblind. For those people, adjustments must constantly be made, some of which may be totally subconscious I suspect, for as it was brought out in class, some people don't even know they are colorblind for a long time.
I know a guy who works as a mechanic, who must be very careful when checking or diagnosing wiring, because he can't completely differentiate the wire colors.
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It is amazing how we take some things for granted that others must struggle and work for to overcome. We constantly use our sight to differentiate color in ways we don't even think about. Traffic signals, lighted signs of all types, brightly colored menus, highlighted and different colored text, etc.; all taken in stride every waking moment of our day - unless one is colorblind. For those people, adjustments must constantly be made, some of which may be totally subconscious I suspect, for as it was brought out in class, some people don't even know they are colorblind for a long time.
I know a guy who works as a mechanic, who must be very careful when checking or diagnosing wiring, because he can't completely differentiate the wire colors.
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 06:53:18 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:53:18 -0400
Subject: [Psych3120] Astigmatism
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 17:12:19 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:12:19 -0400
Subject: [Psych3120] light spectrum
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i though it was facinating about the light spectrum.? I never knew whether dogs are color blind or not and it alway bugged me.? I finally know what's going on.? They aren't exactly color blind but they do have less colorful vision than humans(if I understand what Strayer is saying).? They do see color but it is faded because they only have 2 cones instead of the human's 3 cones.? Less light can be comprehended by dogs.? I wonder what the world would look like to us if we could see the whole light spectrum.? I do have a question.? I didn't understand why the bee saw the flower as red and white instead of how we would see it as yellow.
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i though it was facinating about the light spectrum. I never knew whether dogs are color blind or not and it alway bugged me. I finally know what's going on. They aren't exactly color blind but they do have less colorful vision than humans(if I understand what Strayer is saying). They do see color but it is faded because they only have 2 cones instead of the human's 3 cones. Less light can be comprehended by dogs. I wonder what the world would look like to us if we could see the whole light spectrum. I do have a question. I didn't understand why the bee saw the flower as red and white instead of how we would see it as yellow.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 17:15:59 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:15:59 -0400
Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject)
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this is a test.? I'm having difficulty making it work
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 19:23:48 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda Lindsey)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:23:48 -0700
Subject: [Psych3120] perception
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taken, and each time i study it, the more new information i find out about =
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s. This summer I taught 2nd grade summer school and one of the science top=
ics we worked on were the 5 senses. When it came time to learn about the s=
ense of sight, i was amazed with how different everyone's eyes worked. We s=
pent a great amount of time talking about how everyone has a dominant eye, =
how we have a blind spots, blindness, optical illusions, and more. It was =
fascinating to see how quickly some children were able to see the different=
illusions i gave them to study, and how some students tried the entire cl=
ass time to adjust their eyes to see the illusions, but were never able to.=
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it. It amazes me how detailed the eye is and the many functions that =
it has. This summer I taught 2nd grade summer school and one of the s=
cience topics we worked on were the 5 senses. When it came time to le=
arn about the sense of sight, i was amazed with how different everyone's ey=
es worked. We spent a great amount of time talking about how everyone has a=
dominant eye, how we have a blind spots, blindness, optical illusions, and=
more. It was fascinating to see how quickly some children were able =
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 20:17:23 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Psych3120] test
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Aug 27 23:02:59 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:02:59 EDT
Subject: [Psych3120] Heidi Williams: Light Spectrum
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i though it was facinating about the light spectrum. I never knew whether
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on. They aren't exactly color blind but they do have less colorful vision
than humans(if I understand what Strayer is saying). They do see color but it
is faded because they only have 2 cones instead of the human's 3 cones. Less
light can be comprehended by dogs. I wonder what the world would look like to
us if we could see the whole light spectrum. I do have a question. I didn't
understand why the bee saw the flower as red and white instead of how we would
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Aug 28 21:13:47 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (sapna bhakta)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:13:47 +0000
Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous figures
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Mondays lecture was very interesting. The thing that caught my eye was the section on ambiguous figures (the box). I dont know if it was just me, but it took a really long time for me actually notice the 3 different positions of the box. Why is it that perception takes so long to kick in?
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Aug 28 22:17:33 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:17:33 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] perceptual organization
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I found the section concerning perceptual organization to be very
fascinating. The samples that were presented in class started me thinking
about how many things I overlook in day to day life. I'm definently one of
the people that don't naturally pick out the unusual aspects of the
examples. This also got me thinking about the things that people think that
they see in things. For example the grilled cheese sandwich that sold on
ebay that looked like the virgin mary. Or the tree downtown that has a
shrine by it because people think that it looks like something to do with
their religous beliefs. I think that people have a strong desire to see
order in the world whether it is a grilled cheese or a tree.
bill shelton
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I found the section concerning perceptual organization to be very fascinating. The samples that were presented in class started me thinking about how many things I overlook in day to day life. I'm definently one of the people that don't naturally pick out the unusual aspects of the examples. This also got me thinking about the things that people think that they see in things. For example the grilled cheese sandwich that sold on ebay that looked like the virgin mary. Or the tree downtown that has a shrine by it because people think that it looks like something to do with their religous beliefs. I think that people have a strong desire to see order in the world whether it is a grilled cheese or a tree.
bill shelton
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Aug 28 23:10:11 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] The eye
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I was reminded of something I learned in another class. I had a professor who did an experiment where they cut the optic nerve on a goldfish then flipped the eyeball upside down and slowly the optic nerve grew back. When the fish food was put into the tank the goldfish would swim to the bottom of the bowl to get the food. The fish eventually learned it was opposite and would swim to the top to get the food. I thought it was interesting that one the optic nerve will grow back in fish...because it won't grow back in humans..and two that the fish learned to adjust to the upside down eyes. I like how even though I think I have learned everything there is to know about a certain subject...like the eye..that there is still different perspectives and different information to take in.
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I was reminded of something I learned in another class. I had a professor who did an experiment where they cut the optic nerve on a goldfish then flipped the eyeball upside down and slowly the optic nerve grew back. When the fish food was put into the tank the goldfish would swim to the bottom of the bowl to get the food. The fish eventually learned it was opposite and would swim to the top to get the food. I thought it was interesting that one the optic nerve will grow back in fish...because it won't grow back in humans..and two that the fish learned to adjust to the upside down eyes. I like how even though I think I have learned everything there is to know about a certain subject...like the eye..that there is still different perspectives and different information to take in.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Aug 29 02:53:59 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Danielle Cysewski)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:53:59 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Light spectrum and animals
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water - the sound they emit bounces off things and travels back to them, =
and from that they are able to calculate the distance of the object. =
This seems like a sense that could have formed (or been lost by other =
animals) because of evolution. I know that dogs have a different =
perceptive pitch range - but I'm not sure why. Could this also be the =
hand of evolution?
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Aug 29 03:10:20 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Rutledge)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous Figures
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I found the ambiguous figures discussion fascinating. I had seen some of t=
he diagrams before such as the face/vases figure and the old/young woman fi=
gure, but when he showed the different versions of the old/young woman figu=
re, I was amazed how long it took me to see the other face. I knew what I =
was looking for but it took me a minute to find it. Then, once I was able =
to see the other face, it seemed so obvious that I could not believe that I=
had missed it before. So, it was interesting to switch back and forth and=
see the different perceptual interpretations and how the different parts t=
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and the old/young woman figure, but when he showed the different versions o=
f the old/young woman figure, I was amazed how long it took me to see the o=
ther face. I knew what I was looking for but it took me a minute to f=
ind it. Then, once I was able to see the other face, it seemed so obv=
ious that I could not believe that I had missed it before. So, it was=
interesting to switch back and forth and see the different perceptual inte=
rpretations and how the different parts took on different meanings. <=
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Aug 29 03:31:21 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (MR. Robert Lee Lambert)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Top-Down Processing
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Top-down Processing is very interesting. The fact
that our knowledge of the world influences our
perception, and because of that humans are able to
dissect even the most ambiguous objects. Such as the
example of the woman from the back and a wash bucket.
I'd be interested to know in what stage of Cognitive
development (if any) does a human brain have the most
function in perception such as this?
Robert Lambert
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Aug 29 23:41:57 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (carly ostler)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:41:57 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1018 - 7 msgs
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Today's lecture was really interesting, I like that our professor goes into
a lot of depth in just a few important areas and doesn't fill it with fluff
and unnecessary information. I was really sad I couldn't see any of the
magic eye/ stereograms, I would like to know from what view and under what
conditions allow the eyes to see the 3D images because I know I've always
been able to see them in the books. I think it's so crazy what our brain
tricks us into seeing and it makes me wonder how much of what we perceive is
real.
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> 1. Loss of Vision (Melissa Davenport)
> 2. Ambiguous figures (sapna bhakta)
> 3. perceptual organization (william sheltowt)
> 4. The eye (Natalie Peatmoss)
> 5. Light spectrum and animals (Danielle Cysewski)
> 6. Ambiguous Figures (Erin Rutledge)
> 7. Top-Down Processing (MR. Robert Lee Lambert)
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>From: Melissa Davenport
>To:
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:04:09 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] Loss of Vision
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>I am going to post regarding Monday's lecture and the scenario of finally
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>be=
>ing a blessing, the eye sight being a curse and something that would make
>s=
>omeone want to die rather than experience sight.
>I cannot imagine how terrible it would be to have an unknown sense be
>prese=
>nted to you later on in life and have to learn how to use it and make
>sense=
> of it.
>I found this truly interesting and will never look at it the same way
>again=
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>Melissa Davenport
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>g=
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>not=
>hing better for that person who was unable to see anything their whole
>live=
>s. When hearing that the brain could not make sense of the everything
>comin=
>g in, it made me really think about how that must have felt and instead of
>=
>it being a blessing, the eye sight being a curse and something that would
>m=
>ake someone want to die rather than experience sight.
>I cannot imagine how terrible it would be to have an unknown sense be
>prese=
>nted to you later on in life and have to learn how to use it and make
>sense=
> of it.
>I found this truly interesting and will never look at it the same way
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>From: "sapna bhakta"
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:13:47 +0000
>Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous figures
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>
>
Mondays lecture was very interesting. The
>thing that caught my eye was the section on ambiguous figures (the
>box). I dont know if it was just me, but it took a really long time
>for me actually notice the 3 different positions of the box. Why is
>it that perception takes so long to kick in?
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>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:17:33 -0600
>From: "william sheltowt"
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: [Psych3120] perceptual organization
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>I found the section concerning perceptual organization to be very
>fascinating. The samples that were presented in class started me thinking
>about how many things I overlook in day to day life. I'm definently one of
>the people that don't naturally pick out the unusual aspects of the
>examples. This also got me thinking about the things that people think
>that
>they see in things. For example the grilled cheese sandwich that sold on
>ebay that looked like the virgin mary. Or the tree downtown that has a
>shrine by it because people think that it looks like something to do with
>their religous beliefs. I think that people have a strong desire to see
>order in the world whether it is a grilled cheese or a tree.
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>I found the section concerning perceptual organization to be very
>fascinating. The samples that were presented in class started me
>thinking about how many things I overlook in day to day life. I'm
>definently one of the people that don't naturally pick out the unusual
>aspects of the examples. This also got me thinking about the things
>that people think that they see in things. For example the grilled
>cheese sandwich that sold on ebay that looked like the virgin mary.
>Or the tree downtown that has a shrine by it because people think that it
>looks like something to do with their religous beliefs. I think that
>people have a strong desire to see order in the world whether it is a
>grilled cheese or a tree.
>
bill shelton
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Natalie Peatmoss
>To: cognitive
>Subject: [Psych3120] The eye
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>I was reminded of something I learned in another class. I had a professor
>who did an experiment where they cut the optic nerve on a goldfish then
>flipped the eyeball upside down and slowly the optic nerve grew back. When
>the fish food was put into the tank the goldfish would swim to the bottom
>of the bowl to get the food. The fish eventually learned it was opposite
>and would swim to the top to get the food. I thought it was interesting
>that one the optic nerve will grow back in fish...because it won't grow
>back in humans..and two that the fish learned to adjust to the upside down
>eyes. I like how even though I think I have learned everything there is to
>know about a certain subject...like the eye..that there is still different
>perspectives and different information to take in.
>
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>I was reminded of something I learned in another class. I had a professor
>who did an experiment where they cut the optic nerve on a goldfish then
>flipped the eyeball upside down and slowly the optic nerve grew back. When
>the fish food was put into the tank the goldfish would swim to the bottom
>of the bowl to get the food. The fish eventually learned it was opposite
>and would swim to the top to get the food. I thought it was
>interesting that one the optic nerve will grow back in fish...because it
>won't grow back in humans..and two that the fish learned to adjust to the
>upside down eyes. I like how even though I think I have learned
>everything there is to know about a certain subject...like the eye..that
>there is still different perspectives and different information to take
>in.
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>Message: 5
>From: "Danielle Cysewski"
>To:
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:53:59 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] Light spectrum and animals
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>other senses have been shaped by evolution. Some aquatic animals use =
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>water - the sound they emit bounces off things and travels back to them, =
>and from that they are able to calculate the distance of the object. =
>This seems like a sense that could have formed (or been lost by other =
>animals) because of evolution. I know that dogs have a different =
>perceptive pitch range - but I'm not sure why. Could this also be the =
>hand of evolution?
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>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Erin Rutledge
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous Figures
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>I found the ambiguous figures discussion fascinating. I had seen some of
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>fi=
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>figu=
>re, I was amazed how long it took me to see the other face. I knew what I
>=
>was looking for but it took me a minute to find it. Then, once I was able
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>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "MR. Robert Lee Lambert"
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: [Psych3120] Top-Down Processing
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>
>
>
> Top-down Processing is very interesting. The fact
>that our knowledge of the world influences our
>perception, and because of that humans are able to
>dissect even the most ambiguous objects. Such as the
>example of the woman from the back and a wash bucket.
>I'd be interested to know in what stage of Cognitive
>development (if any) does a human brain have the most
>function in perception such as this?
>
>Robert Lambert
>
>
>
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From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Depth Perception and influence
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Today was pretty interesting for me... I am an artist,
and have always loved perspective and how one can play
with it. However, my own depth perception is a bit
skewed. I thought about bringing it up in class, but
really, it is a long story, so better for the message
board.
For years, I suffered dizziness and fear of heights,
otherwise known as vertigo. A few years ago, one of my
eye doctors caught the actual problem while adjusting
me for new glasses- my depth perception is off. I have
some limitation, and seeing things like the 3-D images
we saw on the screen today do not appear in 3-D for
me, most of the time.
The good part of this, however, is that now that I
know what the issue is, I have LEARNED how to measure
distance, rather than expect my eye to do it. I
actually think my artistic training helped with this.
And now, when hiking steep terrain, which used to make
me dizzy and nearly pass out, I have a way of
'feeling' the terrain with my feet, walking sticks,
etc, that allows me to see what the distance actually
is... my version is very mild, mind you. Like Dr.
Strayer said, without depth perception, we could not
function properly, or even walk. I am curious as to
what actually causes my loss of this perception- it is
kind of like colour blindness in others, from what I
understand... not that you lose colour altogether, but
that some are muted. For me, certain realms in my eye
cannot process depth visually. That is why I learned
to process it in other ways, which helps to reduce the
dizziness I used to feel so much....
This leads me to notes I made today and even the last
class- that perception is 'expectations as well as
input'. So, with my eyesight, if I 'expect' to not
understand depth (which is partially the case), the
input will not be useful, no matter what it is. Now
that I EXPECT that I can understand depth, even if I
can't see it clearly, I can accomodate for what my eye
perceives from the input of light, shadow and
movement. Funny how it all works, and completely
facinating!
my favourite quote from this week (monday's lecture):
Your KNOWLEGE influences what you can see.
(That is true, not only with visual processing of the
eye, but what is interpreted and learned from that
visual input as well)
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 03:54:07 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Gertsch)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:54:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous Figures
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I found the ambiguous figures portion of Monday's lecture very interesting. I had seen most of those pictures before, but not the one with the cow. Before Dr. Strayer showed the outline or said that it was a cow, I saw a completely different cow. It reminded me of the house that I grew up in. It had a textured ceiling and my brother and I used to lay on the living room floor and try to find figures and objects in the texture. What was most interesting to me, especially at the time, was that we often saw similar figures in the same general area but not the exact same figure. For example, I saw a lady, about two feet tall, wearing a dress, standing up straight with her hands on her hips, with unmatching shoes. My brother saw a lady also in a dress with her hands on her hips, but she was leaning slightly to left and her shoes matched. The figure that he saw was only about a foot tall and the edge of the arm was the outline of the dress of the figure that I saw. It took a while
for me to see what he saw and vice-versa, but afterward it seemed so obvious and it was really easy to switch back and forth between the two figures.
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I found the ambiguous figures portion of Monday's lecture very interesting. I had seen most of those pictures before, but not the one with the cow. Before Dr. Strayer showed the outline or said that it was a cow, I saw a completely different cow. It reminded me of the house that I grew up in. It had a textured ceiling and my brother and I used to lay on the living room floor and try to find figures and objects in the texture. What was most interesting to me, especially at the time, was that we often saw similar figures in the same general area but not the exact same figure. For example, I saw a lady, about two feet tall, wearing a dress, standing up straight with her hands on her hips, with unmatching shoes. My brother saw a lady also in a dress with her hands on her hips, but she was leaning slightly to left and her shoes matched. The figure that he saw was only about a foot tall and the edge of the arm was the outline of the dress of the figure that I saw. It
took a while for me to see what he saw and vice-versa, but afterward it seemed so obvious and it was really easy to switch back and forth between the two figures.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 03:58:10 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Priest)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:58:10 +0000
Subject: [Psych3120] wk.02 Perception and Illusions
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I have been thinking about the illusions we saw in class and in the text and
wondering how often we see images and assume they are one way when in fact
it might actually be an illusion. Or how much of the real world do we miss
given our limited range of vision and our tendency to perceptualize shapes
in their simpiliest and most stable forms? Yet the complexity of our visual
system may be overwhelming to someone newly introduced to the visual aspects
of the world around us. ....melissa priest
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 05:15:44 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Diana Alleman)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:15:44 +0000
Subject: [Psych3120] Diana Alleman
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Learning about the pictorial cues in depth perception made me think a lot
about how an artist approaches a drawing or painting. There are so many
techniques to take into consideration to making artwork realistic. I have
never really taken any art classes and wondered why when I try to sketch
that the whole idea would never come together. Today was a good overview
for what aspects (interposition, size, texture gradients, and linear
perspective) bring a picture to life.
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 05:57:00 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Yoshida Taihei)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:57:00 +0900
Subject: [Psych3120] Ames Room
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This week's lecture was interesting to me. Even though I have learned basic rules of painting, I learned it is related to the cognitive mechanizm. Also, the story about how the 3-D movies works was so interesting. Now, I understood why if I watch the screen without the 3-D glass, I see the same pictures at the same time.Also, I knew it about Ames room, and how does it trick people's cognition. I have watched the video about it, and a girl in the room moves right and left. While I'm watching it, I chould she she is getting bigger or smaller depends on the way she moves. It was interesting video.From today's lecture, I could solve my question, so it was good for me. the question was why I could see the depth even though I had hearted my one eye, and I could look with only another eye. I could learn some cues worked for it, such as pictrial and mocement cues.
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This week's lecture was interesting to me. Even though I have learned basic rules of painting, I learned it is related to the cognitive mechanizm. Also, the story about how the 3-D movies works was so interesting. Now, I understood why if I watch the screen without the 3-D glass, I see the same pictures at the same time.
Also, I knew it about Ames room, and how does it trick people's cognition. I have watched the video about it, and a girl in the room moves right and left. While I'm watching it, I chould she she is getting bigger or smaller depends on the way she moves. It was interesting video.
From today's lecture, I could solve my question, so it was good for me. the question was why I could see the depth even though I had hearted my one eye, and I could look with only another eye. I could learn some cues worked for it, such as pictrial and mocement cues.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 17:10:20 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:10:20 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception (Wk.2)
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I thought the lecture on Wednesday was particularly interesting. I never
have given a lot of thought to how we percieve things. I remember always
drawing things in school or just for fun, and realize now that naturally we
draw things with these percerption ideas in mind. I converge lines when
something like a train track is getting farther away and place objects in
front of others or make them bigger when they are "closer". I never realized
that there were these sort of laws behind it all. I also thought it was
interesting that 12% of people can't see certain visual things such as in
the magic eye books. I am in this 12%! I remember in elementary school
looking at these in the library for hours and hours and everyone could see
them but me and it made me so sad. I'm glad to know that i'm in good
company! --Megan Larsen
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 17:36:19 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:36:19 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Perception (wk. 2)
Message-ID:
I thought the lecture on Wednesday was particularly interesting. I never
have given a lot of thought to how we percieve things. I remember always
drawing things in school or just for fun, and realize now that naturally we
draw things with these percerption ideas in mind. I converge lines when
something like a train track is getting farther away and place objects in
front of others or make them bigger when they are "closer". I never realized
that there were these sort of laws behind it all. I also thought it was
interesting that 12% of people can't see certain visual things such as in
the magic eye books. I am in this 12%! I remember in elementary school
looking at these in the library for hours and hours and everyone could see
them but me and it made me so sad. I'm glad to know that i'm in good
company! --Megan Larsen
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 00:04:08 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] Depth Perception
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I found the lecture on Wednesday Aug. 29 to be quite interesting. Several pre-conceived notions that I had were done away with in regard to depth perception. I had always heard and believed that when using only one eye an individual had no depth perception, this proved false due to there being several factors that effect how we perceive depth. I'll briefly name a few of those factors and explain what they are.
Interposition tells us that if an object is covering another object than it is therefore closer to us. When dealing with Size, we perceive smaller objects to be further away than those that are large. With Texture Gradients, the further back you look, the less defined the objects are which lets us know of their depth.
These are just some of the methods that allow for us to detect depth. Because of these and the others, when having the use of only one eye we are still obviously able to have depth perception.
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I found the lecture on Wednesday Aug. 29 to be quite interesting. Several pre-conceived notions that I had were done away with in regard to depth perception. I had always heard and believed that when using only one eye an individual had no depth perception, this proved false due to there being several factors that effect how we perceive depth. I'll briefly name a few of those factors and explain what they are.
Interposition tells us that if an object is covering another object than it is therefore closer to us. When dealing with Size, we perceive smaller objects to be further away than those that are large. With Texture Gradients, the further back you look, the less defined the objects are which lets us know of their depth.
These are just some of the methods that allow for us to detect depth. Because of these and the
others, when having the use of only one eye we are still obviously able to have depth perception.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 30 23:13:52 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] modes of learning
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I had a question to post. I have wondered a lot about why the moon looked bigger on the horizon than in the sky. He said it is an illusion so does that mean that if you held it away at the right distance so that it was the size of a dime, if you held it at that same distance it would be the size of a dime all the way across the sky?
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I had a question to post. I have wondered a lot about why the moon looked bigger on the horizon than in the sky. He said it is an illusion so does that mean that if you held it away at the right distance so that it was the size of a dime, if you held it at that same distance it would be the size of a dime all the way across the sky?
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 00:47:11 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:47:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Psych3120] modes of learning
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I have really enjoyed this class so far, it has been fascinating. I have often wondered about the moon being bigger on the horizon than when it is in the middle of the sky. He said it is just an illusion. Does that mean that holding a dime the right distance away to make it the size of the moon from our perspective when it is on the horizon, it will be the same size when it is above our heads?
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I have really enjoyed this class so far, it has been fascinating. I have often wondered about the moon being bigger on the horizon than when it is in the middle of the sky. He said it is just an illusion. Does that mean that holding a dime the right distance away to make it the size of the moon from our perspective when it is on the horizon, it will be the same size when it is above our heads?
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 03:02:20 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (erica smith)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:02:20 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject)
Message-ID:
So i was wondering a little more about the 3-D glasses thing and maybe
someone has an answer for me. We've been talking a lot about people who
have been blind, regaining sight, but not being able to perceive depth; if
they put 3-D glasses on, would it continue to look like a flat image? I'm
assuming so, but maybe someone knows.
-erica smith
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:26:51 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Testing testing 123
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 04:20:54 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spenser Harris)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:20:54 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Philosophy, Blindsight, Ambiguous Figures/Topdown Processing
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First, in response to Sofia Rosalinda's comment on the philosophical theory=
that if you leave a room, and no one else is there to see it, the room cea=
ses to exist: I heard of that theory, too. We learned about that one and ot=
her metaphysical stuff in an introductory philosophy course I took last yea=
r.
Second, to Megan Larsen, you're not alone. I could never figure out those m=
agic eye books either.
Third, what Dr Strayer said about "Blindsight" last Wednesday, the 22nd, r=
eminded me of a scene in Jurassic Park. To those of you who've seen the mov=
ie, remember how the T-Rex's vision was based on movement, and that if the =
people didn't move, it couldn't see them? That sounds exactly like what Dr =
Strayer was talking about. For anyone who doesn't remember that scene, I fo=
und it on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DZk3gkg547S4. But thinking a=
bout blindsight got me thinking: how could an animal survive with that kind=
of vision? It would constatnly be running into trees or tripping over rock=
s. It could walk right off the edge of a cliff and not even realize it. So =
wouldn't a physical trait like that be eliminated by natural selection? Las=
tly, regarding what we've learned about ambiguous figures and top-down proc=
essing, I found a perfect example of both on collegehumor.com. DISCLAIMER: =
I should warn you all, it's an artistic drawing of a couple in an erotic po=
se. I don't want anyone to be offended, so if you have a problem with that,=
don't look. For everyone else, be sure to read the caption at the top; it'=
s important in regards to top-down processing. http://www.collegehumor.com/=
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that if you leave a room, and no one else is there to see it, the roo=
m ceases to exist: I heard of that theory, too. We learned about that one a=
nd other metaphysical stuff in an introductory philosophy course I took las=
t year.
Second, to Megan Larsen, you're not alone. I could never figure out th=
ose magic eye books either.
Third, what Dr Strayer said about "Blindsight" last Wednesday, th=
e 22nd, reminded me of a scene in Jurassic Park. To those of you who've see=
n the movie, remember how the T-Rex's vision was based on movement, and tha=
t if the people didn't move, it couldn't see them? That sounds exactly like=
what Dr Strayer was talking about. For anyone who doesn't remember that sc=
ene, I found it on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DZk3gkg547S4. But thinking about blin=
dsight got me thinking: how could an animal survive with that kind of =
vision? It would constatnly be running into trees or tripping over rocks. I=
t could walk right off the edge of a cliff and not even realize it. So woul=
dn't a physical trait like that be eliminated by natural selection?
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o if you have a problem with that, don't look. For everyone else, be sure t=
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 06:43:31 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kandis Beverley)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:43:31 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Distance
Message-ID:
On Wednesday we talked about depth percepction, and some of the different cues that go all on with it. I was very interested when we talked about texture gradients because when I take off my glasses everything that is not right in front of me is blurring, therefor texture gradient does not really help me beacuse nothing gradially fades, so I have to depend more on size, linear perspective, ect. Sometimes it is really hard to determine distance when driving without glasses, and that is probably the reason that they require glasses when driving.
I also thought that it was interesting that in the past before we really knew alot about percepction, artists were already playing with the ideas. But because these images played with our minds, we liked what we were seeing and we found our minds trying to make sence of it all. We did not know why or how it was happening, but we knew it was different and interesting.
-Kandis Beverley
The point of all this is that visual training and practice at least in this career field is very important.
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 20:21:18 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Charles Lincoln Allen)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:21:18 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Cross-cultural aspects of cognitive psych.
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In one of my cross-cultural psych classes we talked about how people in =
other cultures focus on different parts of the body when dealing with =
people. For example, in most western societies it is proper to look =
someone in the eyes when talking to them however in many other societies =
this is discouraged and other parts are encouraged. I was wondering if =
people of cultures where it was not common to look people in the eyes =
would see the upside down face images that he showed in class =
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about how people in other cultures focus on different parts of the body =
when dealing with people. For example, in most western societies =
it is proper to look someone in the eyes when talking to them however in =
many other societies this is discouraged and other parts are =
encouraged. I was wondering if people of cultures where it was not =
common to look people in the eyes would see the upside down face images =
that he showed in class differently or not. It would be interesting if =
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From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 31 21:35:32 2007
From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:35:32 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound
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That is really interesting that concepts are appliccable and also very
important to areas other than psychology. I never really thought about this
being such an important and speicalized thing in those types of feilds. Good
info!
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>Subject: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:10:07 -0400
>
>One of the points that kept coming up in class is that much of our vision
>is actually learned behavior and that we can, to some degree, be trained to
>recognize certain aspects of what we see. One of the examples that was
>given was the discussion of sonograms and that it is the motion that gives
>most of the visual cues. My wife is a radiation technologist so I asked her
>about ulttrasound and sonograms. She gave me some interesting information.
>She told me that even though the radiologist (the doctor that reads x-rays
>and? sonograms) can read the sonogram they only spend part of the time
>doing so, because they are also looking at x-rays CT scans and MRIs. On the
>other hand the sonographer spends all day looking at the sonograms. Because
>of this the doctors rely very heavily on the sonographer? when doing their
>diagnosis. My wife went on to explain that sonographers are the only
>technicians who are allowed to tell a patient what they see. The other
>technicians that take x-rays !
> for instance cant tell you your leg is broken even though they see it on
>the x-ray.
>
>The point of all this is that visual training and practice at least in this
>career field is very important.
>
>Note: this is my second post my first was on Astigmatism.
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