From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 00:38:41 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:38:41 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle: 3D Effect Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7EBF5.C57BD390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I was a child growing up in Portland, Oregon back in the 1950's, my = mother worked for the company that made Viewmasters. As kids, we always = had them around the house to play with, but I never really understood = how the 3D effect was created. Now I get it...there is an image = projected to the left eye and an image projected to the right eye, both = slightly offset. Then the images are combined to produce the 3D effect. = It was interesting to learn that aerial reconnaissance photos used to = be just two dimensional until it was discovered that if one camera was = placed on the left wing of a plane and another placed on the right wing, = both taking pictures, the images could then be combined to obtain DEPTH, = just like the viewmaster concept. It makes me wonder if this same = two-camera technique is how they film IMAX movies. I love IMAX movies = because you get a realistic feeling that you are actually flying with = the birds, shooting the river rapids or flying a helicopter through the = Grand Canyon. I know they use special cameras for filming, but I am not = sure if they edit the two films together to create the 3D effect. = Anybody know about this? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7EBF5.C57BD390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I was a child growing up in Portland, Oregon back in the = 1950's, my=20 mother worked for the company that made Viewmasters.  As kids, we = always=20 had them around the house to play with, but I never really = understood=20 how the 3D effect was created.  Now I get it...there is an = image=20 projected to the left eye and an image projected to the right eye, both = slightly=20 offset.  Then the images are combined to produce the 3D = effect. =20 It was interesting to learn that aerial reconnaissance photos used = to be=20 just two dimensional until it was discovered that if one camera was = placed on=20 the left wing of a plane and another placed on the right wing, both = taking=20 pictures, the images could then be combined to obtain DEPTH, just like = the=20 viewmaster concept.  It makes me wonder if this same two-camera = technique=20 is how they film IMAX movies.  I love IMAX movies because you = get a=20 realistic feeling that you are actually flying with the birds, = shooting the=20 river rapids or flying a helicopter through the Grand Canyon.  I = know they=20 use special cameras for filming, but I am not sure if they = edit the=20 two films together to create the 3D effect.  Anybody know about=20 this?    
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C7EBF5.C57BD390-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 01:29:54 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:29:54 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle: 3D Effect Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C7EBFC.ED3CA8D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I was a child growing up in Portland, Oregon back in the 1950's, my = mother worked for the company that made Viewmasters. As kids, we always = had them around the house to play with, but I never really understood = how the 3D effect was created. Now I get it...there is an image = projected to the left eye and an image projected to the right eye, both = slightly offset. Then the images are combined to produce the 3D effect. = It was interesting to learn that aerial reconnaissance photos used to = be just two dimensional until it was discovered that if one camera was = placed on the left wing of a plane and another placed on the right wing, = both taking pictures, the images could then be combined to obtain DEPTH, = just like the viewmaster concept. It makes me wonder if the same = two-camera technique is how they film IMAX movies. I love IMAX movies = because you get a realistic feeling that you are actually flying with = the birds, shooting the river rapids or flying in a helicopter through = the Grand Canyon. I know they use special cameras for filming, but I am = not sure if they edit the two films together to create the 3D effect. = Anybody know about this? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C7EBFC.ED3CA8D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I was a child growing up in Portland, Oregon back in the = 1950's, my=20 mother worked for the company that made Viewmasters.  As kids, we = always=20 had them around the house to play with, but I never really understood = how the 3D=20 effect was created.  Now I get it...there is an image projected to = the left=20 eye and an image projected to the right eye, both slightly offset.  = Then=20 the images are combined to produce the 3D effect.  It was = interesting to=20 learn that aerial reconnaissance photos used to be just two dimensional = until it=20 was discovered that if one camera was placed on the left wing of a plane = and=20 another placed on the right wing, both taking pictures, the images could = then be=20 combined to obtain DEPTH, just like the viewmaster concept.  = It makes=20 me wonder if the same two-camera technique is how they film IMAX = movies.  I=20 love IMAX movies because you get a realistic feeling that you are = actually=20 flying with the birds, shooting the river rapids or flying in a = helicopter=20 through the Grand Canyon.  I know they use special cameras for = filming, but=20 I am not sure if they edit the two films together to create the 3D = effect. =20 Anybody know about this?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C7EBFC.ED3CA8D0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 06:08:33 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Matt Hansen) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Jedi mind tricks Message-ID: <350599.61834.qm@web51910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In our last lecture Dr. Strayer talked about perceptual organization. I was particularly interested in the importance of top-down processing. Those pictures with the mouths and eyes really freaked me out. It was so funny that my mind registered something wrong, but didn’t really see it until the photo was turned right side up. This was especially the case with the Abraham Lincoln picture. Besides all of the mind tricks we saw in lecture it makes me wonder how many more there are. Are there more laws of the mind? Matt Hansen ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 06:55:37 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Steve Best) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Perception of Depth and Movement Message-ID: <207619.67796.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-636674096-1188626137=:67796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My brother mentioned that he had read an article stating that the area of the brain where perception of distance and depth is processed is not fully developed in humans until around 19 to 21 years of age! We discussed how that affects judgment in small children judging the speed and distance of oncoming vehicles when attempting to cross a street, or in adolescents maneuvering in traffic when first obtaining a drivers license at 16 years of age. There may be a possible correlation to this idea and the seemingly higher incidences of accidents in teenage drivers. Steve Best --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-636674096-1188626137=:67796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
My brother mentioned that he had read an article stating that the area of the brain where perception of distance and depth is processed is not fully developed in humans until around 19 to 21 years of age!  We discussed how that affects judgment in small children judging the speed and distance of oncoming vehicles when attempting to cross a street, or in adolescents maneuvering in traffic when first obtaining a drivers license at 16 years of age.  There may be a possible correlation to this idea and the seemingly higher incidences of accidents in teenage drivers.
 
Steve Best


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Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. --0-636674096-1188626137=:67796-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 17:48:40 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sofia Rosalinda) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:48:40 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7EC85.A8664A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last week I missed both Monday and Wednesday's classes since I was = deathly ill and on my deathbed, (not really, but it did feel like it) = anyways, could anyone fill me in on what I missed and what I should = defienately study in the book? Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7EC85.A8664A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Last week I missed both Monday and Wednesday's classes since I was = deathly=20 ill and on my deathbed, (not really, but it did feel like it) anyways, = could=20 anyone fill me in on what I missed and what I should defienately study = in the=20 book?  Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C7EC85.A8664A70-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 1 18:16:57 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <272454.8149.qm@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1407645729-1188667017=:8149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some of you have mentioned how interesting it is that our eyes saw the faces just fine until they were flipped around and then we saw how distorted we were. I thought it was also awesome that if we were to see it enough then our brains would eventually become accustomed and we would be able to see it as if it were right side up. It is fascinating how adaptable our brains are. --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --0-1407645729-1188667017=:8149 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some of you have mentioned how interesting it is that our eyes saw the faces just fine until they were flipped around and then we saw how distorted we were. I thought it was also awesome that if we were to see it enough then our brains would eventually become accustomed and we would be able to see it as if it were right side up. It is fascinating how adaptable our brains are.


Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --0-1407645729-1188667017=:8149-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 2 01:22:53 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Stark) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:22:53 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ECF7.DE43BBF5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking about how we talked about the way the eye works very = similar to a camera. What I have noticed in the past is how when you see = some amazing scene (like a sunset or something similar) and try to take = a picture, the camera never quite captures the original view the way our = eyes do. It just made me wonder about how much of what we see gets = enhanced by our perceptual system. Just something to think about... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ECF7.DE43BBF5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I was thinking about = how we talked about the way the eye works very similar to a camera. What = I have noticed in the past is how when you see some amazing scene (like = a sunset or something similar) and try to take a picture, the camera = never quite captures the original view the way our eyes do. It just made = me wonder about how much of what we see gets enhanced by our perceptual = system. Just something to think about...
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I was skimming through a couple of these emails and noticed there were several people that mentioned their inability to see the hidden pictures in the magic eye drawings.  I can usually see them if I stare at them the right way for a long time, but I remember that there were some I could never get when I looked at them as a kid.  I doubt there's been any extensive research into people's ability to see magic eye drawings but I was wondering whether there would be a anatomical reason why some people can't see the images, like there would be a reason why some people are color-blind, and what that would be.  Also, I would imagine that people with certain limitations like color-blindness would have more trouble perceiving these kinds of things for the same reasons.  I think it is interesting that you could probably pinpoint certain kinds of illusions that people could or couldn't see depending on their eye structure, and maybe even their different perceptive backgrounds.  I remember Dr. Strayer mentioning that people who weren't used to this culture's conventional square rooms wouldn't see the Ame's room example as visually confusing.  Obviously this doesn't indicate a deficiency in other cultures' perceptive abilities, but merely a different set of visual standards.


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>    1. Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound (quinting@aol.com)
>    2. Cross-cultural aspects of cognitive psych. (Charles Lincoln Allen)
>    3. RE: Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound (Megan Larsen)
>    4. Julie Hinckle:  3D Effect (JAMES C HINCKLE)
>    5. Julie Hinckle: 3D Effect (JAMES C HINCKLE)
>    6. Jedi mind tricks (Matt Hansen)
>    7. Perception of Depth and Movement (Steve Best)
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>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:10:07 -0400
>From: quinting@aol.com
>Subject: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>One of the points that kept coming up in class is that much of our vision is actually learned behavior and that we can, to some degree, be trained to recognize certain aspects of what we see. One of the examples that was given was the discussion of sonograms and that it is the motion that gives most of the visual cues. My wife is a radiation technologist so I asked her about ulttrasound and sonograms. She gave me some interesting information. She told me that even though the radiologist (the doctor that reads x-rays and? sonograms) can read the sonogram they only spend part of the time doing so, because they are also looking at x-rays CT scans and MRIs. On the other hand the sonographer spends all day looking at the sonograms. Because of this the doctors rely very heavily on the sonographer? when doing their diagnosis. My wife went on to explain that sonographers are the only technicians who are allowed to tell a patient what they see. The other technicians that take x-rays !
>  for instance cant tell you your leg is broken even though they see it on the x-ray.
>
>The point of all this is that visual training and practice at least in this career field is very important.
>
>Note: this is my second post my first was on Astigmatism.
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><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">One of the points that kept coming up in class is that much of our vision is actually learned behavior and that we can, to some degree, be trained to recognize certain aspects of what we see. One of the examples that was given was the discussion of sonograms and that it is the motion that gives most of the visual cues. My wife is a radiation technologist so I asked her about ulttrasound and sonograms. She gave me some interesting information. She told me that even though the radiologist (the doctor that reads x-rays and&nbsp; sonograms) can read the sonogram they only spend part of the time doing so, because they are also looking at x-rays CT scans and MRIs. On the other hand the sonographer spends all day looking at the sonograms. Because of this the doctors rely very heavily on the sonographer&nbsp; when doing their diagnosis. My wife went on to explain that sonographers are the only technicians who are allowed to tell a patient wh!
>  at they see. The other technicians that take x-rays for instance cant tell you your leg is broken even though they see it on the x-ray. <br>
><br>
>The point of all this is that visual training and practice at least in this career field is very important.<br>
><br>
>Note: this is my second post my first was on Astigmatism.<br>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:21:18 -0600
>From: "Charles Lincoln Allen" <u0390673@utah.edu>
>To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
>Subject: [Psych3120] Cross-cultural aspects of cognitive psych.
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>people.  For example, in most western societies it is proper to look =
>someone in the eyes when talking to them however in many other societies =
>this is discouraged and other parts are encouraged.  I was wondering if =
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>many other societies this is discouraged and other parts are =
>encouraged.&nbsp; I was wondering if people of cultures where it was not =
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>Message: 3
>From: "Megan Larsen" <meg_meg84@msn.com>
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:35:32 -0600
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>
>That is really interesting that concepts are appliccable and also very
>important to areas other than psychology. I never really thought about this
>being such an important and speicalized thing in those types of feilds. Good
>info!
>
>
> >From: quinting@aol.com
> >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
> >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
> >Subject: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Visual training and ultrasound
> >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:10:07 -0400
> >
> >One of the points that kept coming up in class is that much of our vision
> >is actually learned behavior and that we can, to some degree, be trained to
> >recognize certain aspects of what we see. One of the examples that was
> >given was the discussion of sonograms and that it is the motion that gives
> >most of the visual cues. My wife is a radiation technologist so I asked her
> >about ulttrasound and sonograms. She gave me some interesting information.
> >She told me that even though the radiologist (the doctor that reads x-rays
> >and? sonograms) can read the sonogram they only spend part of the time
> >doing so, because they are also looking at x-rays CT scans and MRIs. On the
> >other hand the sonographer spends all day looking at the sonograms. Because
> >of this the doctors rely very heavily on the sonographer? when doing their
> >diagnosis. My wife went on to explain that sonographers are the only
> >technicians who are allowed to tell a patient what they see. The other
> >technicians that take x-rays !
> >  for instance cant tell you your leg is broken even though they see it on
> >the x-ray.
> >
> >The point of all this is that visual training and practice at least in this
> >career field is very important.
> >
> >Note: this is my second post my first was on Astigmatism.
> >
> >________________________________________________________________________
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>Message: 4
>From: "JAMES C HINCKLE" <jimandjulie@msn.com>
>To: "Psych 3120-Modes \(Cog. Psych\)" <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:38:41 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle:  3D Effect
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>how the 3D effect was created.  Now I get it...there is an image =
>projected to the left eye and an image projected to the right eye, both =
>slightly offset.  Then the images are combined to produce the 3D effect. =
>  It was interesting to learn that aerial reconnaissance photos used to =
>be just two dimensional until it was discovered that if one camera was =
>placed on the left wing of a plane and another placed on the right wing, =
>both taking pictures, the images could then be combined to obtain DEPTH, =
>just like the viewmaster concept.  It makes me wonder if this same =
>two-camera technique is how they film IMAX movies.  I love IMAX movies =
>because you get a realistic feeling that you are actually flying with =
>the birds, shooting the river rapids or flying a helicopter through the =
>Grand Canyon.  I know they use special cameras for filming, but I am not =
>sure if they edit the two films together to create the 3D effect.  =
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>From: "JAMES C HINCKLE" <jimandjulie@msn.com>
>To: "Psych 3120-Modes \(Cog. Psych\)" <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:29:54 -0600
>Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle: 3D Effect
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>When I was a child growing up in Portland, Oregon back in the 1950's, my =
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>had them around the house to play with, but I never really understood =
>how the 3D effect was created.  Now I get it...there is an image =
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>slightly offset.  Then the images are combined to produce the 3D effect. =
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>be just two dimensional until it was discovered that if one camera was =
>placed on the left wing of a plane and another placed on the right wing, =
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>because you get a realistic feeling that you are actually flying with =
>the birds, shooting the river rapids or flying in a helicopter through =
>the Grand Canyon.  I know they use special cameras for filming, but I am =
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Matt Hansen <mattsweden@yahoo.com>
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: [Psych3120] Jedi mind tricks
>Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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>In our last lecture Dr. Strayer talked about
>perceptual organization.  I was particularly
>interested in the importance of top-down processing.
>Those pictures with the mouths and eyes really freaked
>me out.  It was so funny that my mind registered
>something wrong, but didn’t really see it until the
>photo was turned right side up.  This was especially
>the case with the Abraham Lincoln picture.  Besides
>all of the mind tricks we saw in lecture it makes me
>wonder how many more there are.  Are there more laws
>of the mind?
>Matt Hansen
>
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:55:37 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Steve Best <stevenlbest@yahoo.com>
>To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
>Subject: [Psych3120] Perception of Depth and Movement
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>My brother mentioned that he had read an article stating that the area of the brain where perception of distance and depth is processed is not fully developed in humans until around 19 to 21 years of age!  We discussed how that affects judgment in small children judging the speed and distance of oncoming vehicles when attempting to cross a street, or in adolescents maneuvering in traffic when first obtaining a drivers license at 16 years of age.  There may be a possible correlation to this idea and the seemingly higher incidences of accidents in teenage drivers.
>
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><DIV>My brother mentioned that he had read an article stating that&nbsp;the area of the brain where perception of distance and depth is processed is not fully developed in humans until around 19 to 21 years of age!&nbsp; We discussed how that affects judgment in small children judging the speed and distance of oncoming vehicles when attempting to cross a street, or in adolescents&nbsp;maneuvering in traffic when first obtaining a drivers license at 16 years of age.&nbsp; There may be a possible correlation to this idea and the seemingly higher incidences of accidents in teenage drivers.</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Steve Best</DIV><p>
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>From: "Sofia Rosalinda" <forgetmenot@q.com>
>To: "psychology message board" <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
>Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:48:40 -0600
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>Last week I missed both Monday and Wednesday's classes since I was =
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>Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Joseph Boyer <joeboyer31@yahoo.com>
>To: psych class <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
>Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject)
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>Some of you have mentioned how interesting it is that our eyes saw the faces just fine until they were flipped around and then we saw how distorted we were. I thought it was also awesome that if we were to see it enough then our brains would eventually become accustomed and we would be able to see it as if it were right side up. It is fascinating how adaptable our brains are.
>
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>Some of you have mentioned how interesting it is that our eyes saw the faces just fine until they were flipped around and then we saw how distorted we were. I thought it was also awesome that if we were to see it enough then our brains would eventually become accustomed and we would be able to see it as if it were right side up. It is fascinating how adaptable our brains are.<p>
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Get the device you want, with the Hotmail® you love. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 2 05:01:30 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Stark) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:01:30 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Talking about the Magic Eye stuff, I think that maybe some patterns are = harder for people to see than others. I can usually find an image if I = look at it long enough, especially the really simple ones, but when I = was about 10 or 11 a friend gave me a big poster of a hidden 3D image = and that poster hung on my bedroom wall for a couple of years. I was = never able to see the image and to this day wonder what it really was = like. I have to take other people's word that it was a picture of = underwater animals. If someone could explain why this picture (and a few = others) was so impossible for me to see even though I could see on other = pictures, I would be really interested to know. The other thought I had this week was when we were talking about how = dominant our sense of sight is compared to our other senses and how the = other senses only become more pronounced when sight is diminished. What = I thought about is how learning occurs and how so many people are = "visual" learners. But then there are many people who are "auditory" = learners as well. If sight is dominant, how come hearing becomes = dominant for some people in certain learning situations?=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Talking about the Magic = Eye stuff, I think that maybe some patterns are harder for people to see = than others. I can usually find an image if I look at it long enough, = especially the really simple ones, but when I was about 10 or 11 a = friend gave me a big poster of a hidden 3D image and that poster hung on = my bedroom wall for a couple of years. I was never able to see the image = and to this day wonder what it really was like. I have to take other = people's word that it was a picture of underwater animals. If someone = could explain why this picture (and a few others) was so impossible for = me to see even though I could see on other pictures, I would be really = interested to know.
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The other thought I had this week was = when we were talking about how dominant our sense of sight is compared = to our other senses and how the other senses only become more pronounced = when sight is diminished. What I thought about is how learning occurs = and how so many people are "visual" learners. But then there are many = people who are "auditory" learners as well. If sight is dominant, how = come hearing becomes dominant for some people in certain learning = situations?
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-------------------------------1188848053-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 4 02:08:18 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda Lindsey) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:08:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1024 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200709021803.l82I2Xi5008310@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709021803.l82I2Xi5008310@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_e04d7556-85e6-4af4-ad9a-1e6d63e0e87d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too have problems trying to see 3D images. When I was younger, in element= ary school perhaps, it was really popular to look at those images. I spent = a lot of time trying to see the "cool" picture that people would get excite= d about. I also never really understood why almost everyone else could, an= d no matter how hard I still tried, it was impossible for me. I wonder if = there is a specific reason for why this happens. Maybe it is harder for me= because I have to wear contacts? Maybe it is just not for everyone. =20 > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:02:33 -0600 > From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1024 - 1 msg > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. (no subject) (Andrea Stark) >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:01:30 -0600 > From: "Andrea Stark" > To: "psych 3120" > Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > Talking about the Magic Eye stuff, I think that maybe some patterns are = =3D > harder for people to see than others. I can usually find an image if I = =3D > look at it long enough, especially the really simple ones, but when I =3D > was about 10 or 11 a friend gave me a big poster of a hidden 3D image =3D > and that poster hung on my bedroom wall for a couple of years. I was =3D > never able to see the image and to this day wonder what it really was =3D > like. I have to take other people's word that it was a picture of =3D > underwater animals. If someone could explain why this picture (and a few = =3D > others) was so impossible for me to see even though I could see on other = =3D > pictures, I would be really interested to know. > The other thought I had this week was when we were talking about how =3D > dominant our sense of sight is compared to our other senses and how the = =3D > other senses only become more pronounced when sight is diminished. What = =3D > I thought about is how learning occurs and how so many people are =3D > "visual" learners. But then there are many people who are "auditory" =3D > learners as well. If sight is dominant, how come hearing becomes =3D > dominant for some people in certain learning situations?=3D20 >=20 > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > =3D0A=3D > =3D0A=3D > =3D0A= =3D > =3D0A=3D >
Talking about the = Magic =3D > Eye stuff, I think that maybe some patterns are harder for people to see = =3D > than others. I can usually find an image if I look at it long enough, =3D > especially the really simple ones, but when I was about 10 or 11 a =3D > friend gave me a big poster of a hidden 3D image and that poster hung on = =3D > my bedroom wall for a couple of years. I was never able to see the image = =3D > and to this day wonder what it really was like. I have to take other =3D > people's word that it was a picture of underwater animals. If someone =3D > could explain why this picture (and a few others) was so impossible for = =3D > me to see even though I could see on other pictures, I would be really = =3D > interested to know.
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The other thought I had this week wa= s =3D > when we were talking about how dominant our sense of sight is compared = =3D > to our other senses and how the other senses only become more pronounced = =3D > when sight is diminished. What I thought about is how learning occurs =3D > and how so many people are "visual" learners. But then there are many =3D > people who are "auditory" learners as well. If sight is dominant, how =3D > come hearing becomes dominant for some people in certain learning =3D > situations?
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= --_e04d7556-85e6-4af4-ad9a-1e6d63e0e87d_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 4 22:41:53 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Danielle Cysewski) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:41:53 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Musings on Perception References: <200709041803.l84I2XiW013623@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C7EF0A.1DD04B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was watching TV last night and started thinking about the "actual" = area of perception (the small part that falls on the fovea), and I was = wondering how that plays into viewing TV/computer screens. Am I actually = seeing the whole screen or just a part of it? If I am not actually = perceiving the entire screen at the same time, how does my brain know = what to fill in - if I've never seen what the screen is showing me = before? How does changing the size of the screen affect my perceptive = ability? Like a few others on this forum, I was disappointed to not be able to = see the 'magic eye' images. We discussed in class how about 20% of = people cannot see them. Is this because of early = developmental/perceptual experiences that people have either had or = missed out on? Similar to how the Ames room only seems odd if you've = been raised in an environment with mainly ninety-degree angles and = rectangles? ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C7EF0A.1DD04B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Like a few others on this forum, I was disappointed to not be able = to see=20 the 'magic eye' images. We discussed in class how about 20% of people = cannot see=20 them. Is this because of early developmental/perceptual experiences that = people=20 have either had or missed out on? Similar to how the Ames room only = seems odd if=20 you've been raised in an environment with mainly ninety-degree angles = and=20 rectangles?
------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C7EF0A.1DD04B90-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 5 17:20:29 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Smith) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] loss of sight! In-Reply-To: <200709041803.l84I2XiW013623@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <779295.26193.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-1845773092-1189009229=:26193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yeah I often wondered why loss of one sense enhances another sense. For instance with vision, celebrities like Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles are often cited as anecdotal evidence that blindness confers superior musical ability. I read that that blind persons perform nonvisual tasks better than those with sight. Also that neuroimaging studies have suggested that areas of the brain normally devoted to vision become active when blind persons perform nonvisual tasks. A previous study, by Franco Lepore and colleagues showed that people who lost their sight at an early age could localize sound, particularly from monaural cues, better than those who could see. These findings suggested that areas of the brain normally dedicated to processing visual stimuli (the visual cortex, located at the back of the brain in the occipital lobe) might play a role in processing sound in these individuals. Nineteen people,seven sighted and twelve who lost their sight at an early age,were placed in an echo-free chamber and asked to indicate where a sound was coming from, using either one (monaural) or both (binaural) ears. Only the blind individuals with superior localization skills showed increased activity in the visual cortex while performing monaural localization tasks. Lepore and colleagues argue that their results show that the visual cortex is "specifically recruited to process subtle monaural cues more effectively." It will be interesting to learn whether blind persons can recruit visual centers for other auditory tasks or to help them navigate the world without sight. psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1023 - 2 msgs (Frogedamillion@aol.com) 2. RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1024 - 1 msg (Amanda Lindsey) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Frogedamillion@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:34:13 EDT To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1023 - 2 msgs Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu -------------------------------1188848053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I remeber at the end of last time's lecture he was saying that the reason it takes awile for our eyes to adjust is because the image is put in a way that is confusing for our brian to figure out what the depth perception should be. There are a numer of competing neuron's, all of which are trying to come up with a perception that makes sense and finally one neuron becomes dominant over the rest. Maybe for some people none of the neuron can figure out what the depth perception should be to make it mean something. 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Maybe for some people none of the neuron can=20 figure out what the depth perception should be to make it mean something.&nb= sp;=20 Maybe it's genetic. ; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"> --------------------------------- Get a=20= sneak peek of the all-new tour/?ncid=3DAOLAOF00020000000982" href=3D"http://discover.aol.com/memed/aol= com30tour/?ncid=3DAOLAOF00020000000982" target=3D"_blank">AOL.com. > -------------------------------1188848053-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Amanda Lindsey To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:08:18 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1024 - 1 msg Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_e04d7556-85e6-4af4-ad9a-1e6d63e0e87d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too have problems trying to see 3D images. When I was younger, in element= ary school perhaps, it was really popular to look at those images. I spent = a lot of time trying to see the "cool" picture that people would get excite= d about. I also never really understood why almost everyone else could, an= d no matter how hard I still tried, it was impossible for me. I wonder if = there is a specific reason for why this happens. Maybe it is harder for me= because I have to wear contacts? Maybe it is just not for everyone. =20 > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:02:33 -0600 > From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1024 - 1 msg > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. (no subject) (Andrea Stark) >=20 > -- __--__-- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:01:30 -0600 > From: "Andrea Stark" > To: "psych 3120" > Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > Talking about the Magic Eye stuff, I think that maybe some patterns are = =3D > harder for people to see than others. I can usually find an image if I = =3D > look at it long enough, especially the really simple ones, but when I =3D > was about 10 or 11 a friend gave me a big poster of a hidden 3D image =3D > and that poster hung on my bedroom wall for a couple of years. I was =3D > never able to see the image and to this day wonder what it really was =3D > like. I have to take other people's word that it was a picture of =3D > underwater animals. If someone could explain why this picture (and a few = =3D > others) was so impossible for me to see even though I could see on other = =3D > pictures, I would be really interested to know. > The other thought I had this week was when we were talking about how =3D > dominant our sense of sight is compared to our other senses and how the = =3D > other senses only become more pronounced when sight is diminished. What = =3D > I thought about is how learning occurs and how so many people are =3D > "visual" learners. But then there are many people who are "auditory" =3D > learners as well. 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If someone =3D > could explain why this picture (and a few others) was so impossible for = =3D > me to see even though I could see on other pictures, I would be really = =3D > interested to know. =3D0A=3D > The other thought I had this week wa= s =3D > when we were talking about how dominant our sense of sight is compared = =3D > to our other senses and how the other senses only become more pronounced = =3D > when sight is diminished. What I thought about is how learning occurs =3D > and how so many people are "visual" learners. But then there are many =3D > people who are "auditory" learners as well. If sight is dominant, how =3D > come hearing becomes dominant for some people in certain learning =3D > situations? > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE-- >=20 >=20 > -- __--__-- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 >=20 >=20 > End of Psych3120 Digest --_e04d7556-85e6-4af4-ad9a-1e6d63e0e87d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I too have problems trying to see 3D images. When I was younger, in element= ary school perhaps, it was really popular to look at those images. I spent = a lot of time trying to see the "cool" picture that people would get excite= d about. I also never really understood why almost everyone else coul= d, and no matter how hard I still tried, it was impossible for me. 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If someone could explain why this pi= cture (and a few =3D > others) was so impossible for me to see even t= hough I could see on other =3D > pictures, I would be really interest= ed to know. > The other thought I had this week was when we were talk= ing about how =3D > dominant our sense of sight is compared to our ot= her senses and how the =3D > other senses only become more pronounced= when sight is diminished. What =3D > I thought about is how learning= occurs and how so many people are =3D > "visual" learners. But then = there are many people who are "auditory" =3D > learners as well. 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> ------_= =3D_NextPart_001_01C7ED15.F16635EE-- > > > -- __--__-- r>> > _______________________________________________ > Psy= ch3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://li= sts.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > > End of P= sych3120 Digest = --_e04d7556-85e6-4af4-ad9a-1e6d63e0e87d_-- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. --0-1845773092-1189009229=:26193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yeah I often wondered why loss of one sense enhances another sense. For instance with vision, celebrities like Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles are often cited as anecdotal evidence that blindness confers superior musical ability.
I read that that blind persons perform nonvisual tasks better than those with sight. Also that neuroimaging studies have suggested that areas of the brain normally devoted to vision become active when blind persons perform nonvisual tasks.  A previous study, by Franco Lepore and colleagues showed that people who lost their sight at an early age could localize sound, particularly from monaural cues, better than those who could see. These findings suggested that areas of the brain normally dedicated to processing visual stimuli (the visual cortex, located at the back of the brain in the occipital lobe) might play a role in processing sound in these individuals. Nineteen people,seven sighted and twelve who lost their sight at an early age,were placed in an echo-free chamber and asked to indicate where a sound was coming from, using either one (monaural) or both (binaural) ears. Only the blind individuals with superior localization skills showed increased activity in the visual cortex while performing monaural localization tasks. Lepore and colleagues argue that their results show that the visual cortex is "specifically recruited to process subtle monaural cues more effectively." It will be interesting to learn whether blind persons can recruit visual centers for other auditory tasks or to help them navigate the world without sight.

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I remeber at the end of last time's lecture he was saying that the reason it
takes awile for our eyes to adjust is because the image is put in a way that
is confusing for our brian to figure out what the depth perception should
be. There are a numer of competing neuron's, all of which are trying to come
up with a perception that makes sense and finally one neuron becomes dominant
over the rest. Maybe for some people none of the neuron can figure out what
the depth perception should be to make it mean something. Maybe it's genetic.



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Today in class when we were discussing how the mind compensates for the spinning image by perceptually counteracting it and making the next thing we look at warped. Well, I don't know if anyone else plays guitar hero, but last week I was playing and after hours of watching the screen scroll from top to bottom, I quit playing. When I turned the TV off to look around and blink back to reality, I realized that EVERYTHING was moving in that upward motion. I thought for a moment that I had been drugged, but then I realized what had happened. It was interesting to discover a more in depth description of why exactly that happened, it was also cool to be able to connect that phenomena to a real life experience.
 
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Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe.  Claim your treat today! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 6 03:54:54 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1027 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200709051914.l85JE93w029478@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <812263.12419.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-2116657650-1189047294=:12419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I thought today's lecture was awesome. I've already showed a bunch of people some of the illusions, I'm a geek. Throughout the whole lecture I was noticing that Ames Trapezoidal Window and it was making my eyes hurt. When he turned it on I couldn't believe that it still looked like an illusion even though part of the paper at the base of it was folded back on one sideso I knew it was fully rotating and it still looked like it was just swinging. Also, the shadow indicated that it was rotating but the illusion was still string enough to look like it wasn't. The other thing to talk about is that though question, "Is seeing believing?" My answer is definitely not. Psych 1010 talked about how highly emotional events (like witnessing a crime or car accident) are always described in great detail as if they remembered everything perfectly. But many times the stories conflict and the person even contradicts himself. What we see I think is just as much subjective as objective. psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Blindness and compensation (Andrea Kalvesmaki) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrea Kalvesmaki To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Blindness and compensation Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I also think it is facinating the way the brain compensates for loss of functioning in other areas, or is more developed in one area for one person, and another for someone else. Someone mentioned blindness and some of the research involving sound, and their ability to process sound using the visual cortex. My mother's best friend while I was growing up was blind, and she used to describe her world to me... in fact, I stayed with her when my parents were out of town. Staying in her house, you never got the sense she couldn't see. In fact, she said, she did 'see', but the images were internal rather than external. If she could feel something, and its relationship to space around it, she could place it in her mind's 'image' of where things were, and could navigate. It was facinating! If we went to a park, as long as we walked her around the park, and she used her hands and feet to feel her way around, she could walk through that area again without any one's help, and without a walking stick! She told me that she could 'see' in her head, even though her eyes could not. She also used hearing to 'see', and taught me how to tell the difference if someone was smiling or not when they were talking. It was very fascinating! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --0-2116657650-1189047294=:12419 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I thought today's lecture was awesome. I've already showed a bunch of people some of the illusions, I'm a geek. Throughout the whole lecture I was noticing that Ames Trapezoidal Window and it was making my eyes hurt. When he turned it on I couldn't believe that it still looked like an illusion even though part of the paper at the base of it was folded back on one sideso I knew it was fully rotating and it still looked like it was just swinging. Also, the shadow indicated that it was rotating but the illusion was still string enough to look like it wasn't.
The other thing to talk about is that though question, "Is seeing believing?" My answer is definitely not. Psych 1010 talked about how highly emotional events (like witnessing a crime or car accident) are always described in great detail as if they remembered everything perfectly. But many times the stories conflict and the person even contradicts himself. What we see I think is just as much subjective as objective.

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT)
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I also think it is facinating the way the brain
compensates for loss of functioning in other areas, or
is more developed in one area for one person, and
another for someone else. Someone mentioned blindness
and some of the research involving sound, and their
ability to process sound using the visual cortex.
My mother's best friend while I was growing up was
blind, and she used to describe her world to me... in
fact, I stayed with her when my parents were out of
town. Staying in her house, you never got the sense
she couldn't see. In fact, she said, she did 'see',
but the images were internal rather than external. If
she could feel something, and its relationship to
space around it, she could place it in her mind's
'image' of where things were, and could navigate. It
was facinating!
If we went to a park, as long as we walked her around
the park, and she used her hands and feet to feel her
way around, she could walk through that area again
without any one's help, and without a walking stick!
She told me that she could 'see' in her head, even
though her eyes could not. She also used hearing to
'see', and taught me how to tell the difference if
someone was smiling or not when they were talking. It
was very fascinating!



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In todays lecture the thing that caught my attention was the Ames window illusion.  It was weird to the window swinging back and forth, and when the professor added the stick to it which made it seem as though the stick was going through the window.  I think it is weird how our mind makes see things, when in actually reality the things we see arent really happening...Is this how magic works?...



Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 6 05:28:58 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (carly ostler) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:28:58 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1027 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200709051914.l85JE93w029478@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Hey, I missed the first ten minutes of class today, did i miss anything big? I thought the last part of the lecture wasvery interesting. It was crazy seeing how our perception can distort what we see. It made me wonder allday if what I was "seeing" was real or not. It brought me to thinking, how do wereally know what is real and what is learned? I rememeber reading a study a long time ago about babies and perception. They made a surface for the babies to crawl on, and then it dropped straight down, but glasss was placed over the drop and most of the babies stopped and cried because they didn't realize that they could crawl on the glass. So, I wonder at what age do we normally acquire the visual and pictoral cues? >From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1027 - 1 msg >Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:14:09 -0600 (MDT) > >Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Blindness and compensation (Andrea Kalvesmaki) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) >From: Andrea Kalvesmaki >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Blindness and compensation >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > >I also think it is facinating the way the brain >compensates for loss of functioning in other areas, or >is more developed in one area for one person, and >another for someone else. Someone mentioned blindness >and some of the research involving sound, and their >ability to process sound using the visual cortex. >My mother's best friend while I was growing up was >blind, and she used to describe her world to me... in >fact, I stayed with her when my parents were out of >town. Staying in her house, you never got the sense >she couldn't see. In fact, she said, she did 'see', >but the images were internal rather than external. If >she could feel something, and its relationship to >space around it, she could place it in her mind's >'image' of where things were, and could navigate. It >was facinating! >If we went to a park, as long as we walked her around >the park, and she used her hands and feet to feel her >way around, she could walk through that area again >without any one's help, and without a walking stick! >She told me that she could 'see' in her head, even >though her eyes could not. She also used hearing to >'see', and taught me how to tell the difference if >someone was smiling or not when they were talking. It >was very fascinating! > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > > >End of Psych3120 Digest _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 6 19:55:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:55:42 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] thought of the week Message-ID: <8162db450709061155r456833b7u8bce024f2a796ddd@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_41373_21237891.1189104942048 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The concept that most intrigued me during the week was the general failure of the visual system. I think that I go through life assuming that what I see is accurate, and for the most part it proabable is. I was intrested though however in how much what I think I see is inaccurate. The variety of different illusions demonstrated the many different ways in which my visual system fail me. The professor alluded to us speaking later in the term about the falliability of memory as well. I am very intrested in that. Seeing the different illusion makes me wonder, how much of what I think I see is actually inaccurate? I think that it is quite possible that many things I take for granted in my life are quite different. The whole general relativity of experience is quite intresting. ------=_Part_41373_21237891.1189104942048 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The concept that most intrigued me during the week was the general failure of the visual system.  I think that I go through life assuming that what I see is accurate, and for the most part it proabable is.  I was intrested though however in how much what I think I see is inaccurate.  The variety of different illusions demonstrated the many different ways in which my visual system fail me.  The professor alluded to us speaking later in the term about the falliability of memory as well.  I am very intrested in that.  Seeing the different illusion makes me wonder, how much of what I think I see is actually inaccurate?  I think that it is quite possible that many things I take for granted in my life are quite different.  The whole general relativity of experience is quite intresting.
------=_Part_41373_21237891.1189104942048-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 6 21:28:00 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Gertsch) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] window illusion Message-ID: <61839.21489.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-426656265-1189110480=:21489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yesterdays lecture was really cool. I guess I am kind of a geek too, because I couldn't wait to go home and tell people about it. Anyway, I found it interesting that when I first looked at the window it looked like it was spinning in circles. It took a while before I saw it waving back and forth. After Dr. Strayer put the stick through the middle it once again looked like the window was spinning in circles, and it took a while before the stick appeared to be spinning through the window as it waved back and forth. So, what I wonder is, if we know that a stick can't really spin through a window, would our mind eventually correct what we saw if we continued to stare at the spinning window for a while longer? --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. --0-426656265-1189110480=:21489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yesterdays lecture was really cool. I guess I am kind of a geek too, because I couldn't wait to go home and tell people about it. Anyway, I found it interesting that when I first looked at the window it looked like it was spinning in circles. It took a while before I saw it waving back and forth. After Dr. Strayer put the stick through the middle it once again looked like the window was spinning in circles, and it took a while before the stick appeared to be spinning through the window as it waved back and forth. So, what I wonder is, if we know that a stick can't really spin through a window, would our mind eventually correct what we saw if we continued to stare at the spinning window for a while longer?


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Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. --0-426656265-1189110480=:21489-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 6 22:29:44 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <512762.14191.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-1959953778-1189114184=:14191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I feel like the things I could say about class and the lectures are repetitive to what others have said...and all I can think to say is...I really like the class. I really like the lectures. Throughout the last lecture I found myself giggling at the things we were seeing. I am in awe over the brain. Every time I go to class I want to learn more. I feel like I haven't quite got my fill yet...I want to learn more, to know more. I went to work after class and printed out the picture of the tables and tried it on a few people...It was SO much fun!! I find myself talking about this class to almost everyone I know and suggesting to them that they should enroll in it. --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! --0-1959953778-1189114184=:14191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I feel like the things I could say about class and the lectures are repetitive to what others have said...and all I can think to say is...I really like the class. I really like the lectures. Throughout the last lecture I found myself giggling at the things we were seeing. I am in awe over the brain. Every time I go to class I want to learn more. I feel like I haven't quite got my fill yet...I want to learn more, to know more. I went to work after class and printed out the picture of the tables and tried it on a few people...It was SO much fun!! I find myself talking about this class to almost everyone I know and suggesting to them that they should enroll in it. 


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Fianlly, I could make a relationship in those pictures (looks like different size, but it's same size.) and some cues, such as pictrial cue.  Not only how the objects are placed, those illusions are worked because of the context, and our experience.

for the Parthenon's story, it was interesting to me.  and I remembered I had heard their piller is not same size between the middle and top/ bottom.  They have biggger round size than top/ bottom part. It looks weired if we see it close, but it will be completely straight if we see it from far away.  It whould be same illusion concept for the architecture, I guess.


$B%"%k%U%!%m%a%*%9%Q%$%@!<(B2.2$B$,Ev$?$k(BHotmail$B%f!<%6!<8BDj$N%-%c%s%Z!<%shttps://campaign.live.jp/hotmail/ --_0b467bb1-a243-485b-bb2d-36f97b8c213e_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 00:51:20 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1027 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200709051914.l85JE93w029478@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <681736.24249.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1137617561-1189122680=:24249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have always thought it was remarkable what the brain can do. If it is just exercised it can do anything it seems like. People who lose one sense can compensate for it in another because they work at it and exercise their brain in a different way. But then there are people who don't exercise it and they lose part of their potential abilities. For instance, the African tribesmen who cqme out of the jungle for the first time and mistook far away buffalo for ants. It makes me wonder in what way am I not using my brain so that I lose potentially incredible things just because my circumstances never provoked learning and conditioning. psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Blindness and compensation (Andrea Kalvesmaki) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrea Kalvesmaki To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Blindness and compensation Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu I also think it is facinating the way the brain compensates for loss of functioning in other areas, or is more developed in one area for one person, and another for someone else. Someone mentioned blindness and some of the research involving sound, and their ability to process sound using the visual cortex. My mother's best friend while I was growing up was blind, and she used to describe her world to me... in fact, I stayed with her when my parents were out of town. Staying in her house, you never got the sense she couldn't see. In fact, she said, she did 'see', but the images were internal rather than external. If she could feel something, and its relationship to space around it, she could place it in her mind's 'image' of where things were, and could navigate. It was facinating! If we went to a park, as long as we walked her around the park, and she used her hands and feet to feel her way around, she could walk through that area again without any one's help, and without a walking stick! She told me that she could 'see' in her head, even though her eyes could not. She also used hearing to 'see', and taught me how to tell the difference if someone was smiling or not when they were talking. It was very fascinating! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. --0-1137617561-1189122680=:24249 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have always thought it was remarkable what the brain can do. If it is just exercised it can do anything it seems like. People who lose one sense can compensate for it in another because they work at it and exercise their brain in a different way. But then there are people who don't exercise it and they lose part of their potential abilities. For instance, the African tribesmen who cqme out of the jungle for the first time and mistook far away buffalo for ants. It makes me wonder in what way am I not using my brain so that I lose potentially incredible things just because my circumstances never provoked learning and conditioning.

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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrea Kalvesmaki
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Blindness and compensation
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I also think it is facinating the way the brain
compensates for loss of functioning in other areas, or
is more developed in one area for one person, and
another for someone else. Someone mentioned blindness
and some of the research involving sound, and their
ability to process sound using the visual cortex.
My mother's best friend while I was growing up was
blind, and she used to describe her world to me... in
fact, I stayed with her when my parents were out of
town. Staying in her house, you never got the sense
she couldn't see. In fact, she said, she did 'see',
but the images were internal rather than external. If
she could feel something, and its relationship to
space around it, she could place it in her mind's
'image' of where things were, and could navigate. It
was facinating!
If we went to a park, as long as we walked her around
the park, and she used her hands and feet to feel her
way around, she could walk through that area again
without any one's help, and without a walking stick!
She told me that she could 'see' in her head, even
though her eyes could not. She also used hearing to
'see', and taught me how to tell the difference if
someone was smiling or not when they were talking. It
was very fascinating!



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Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.co= m. Check i= t out! = --_5b74364f-f9ae-48ad-87d4-28628fbc91a3_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 03:19:50 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Illusions vs. Constancies Message-ID: <566570.93661.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-807303866-1189131590=:93661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >From the time that I was very young I have been fascinated with illusions. I remember my uncle telling me to hold my hands out in front of me with the two index fingers pointing towards each other but having a very small space between them. He told me to look “past” the fingers and I would see a small finger that appears to be floating. I was intrigued to learn how in architecture buildings such as the Parthenon must be built in a differing manner to create illusions of their actual construct. Another issue that was covered in class that was previously unknown to me is how we overestimate the lengths of vertical lines and underestimate the length of horizontal lines. I am still baffled by the slide depicting the two tables and how their tops are of equal lengths and widths. On a final note for those that might have missed class on Wed. (9/5), if you’re curious as to what is an illusion and what is a mirage, just know that an illusion can’t be photographed (because the camera picks up the reality) while mirages can be photographed. --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. --0-807303866-1189131590=:93661 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
From the time that I was very young I have been fascinated with illusions.  I remember my uncle telling me to hold my hands out in front of me with the two index fingers pointing towards each other but having a very small space between them.  He told me to look “past” the fingers and I would see a small finger that appears to be floating.
 
 I was intrigued to learn how in architecture buildings such as the Parthenon must be built in a differing manner to create illusions of their actual construct.  Another issue that was covered in class that was previously unknown to me is how we overestimate the lengths of vertical lines and underestimate the length of horizontal lines.  I am still baffled by the slide depicting the two tables and how their tops are of equal lengths and widths. 
 
On a final note for those that might have missed class on Wed. (9/5), if you’re curious as to what is an illusion and what is a mirage, just know that an illusion can’t be photographed (because the camera picks up the reality) while mirages can be photographed.
 


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Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. --0-807303866-1189131590=:93661-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 06:59:52 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alissa Nielson) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:59:52 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest In-Reply-To: <200709061803.l86I34aU013452@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709061803.l86I34aU013452@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <46E0947802000053000218FF@gwmail1.kleinfelder.com> --=__PartEEC945C8.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cut out the table tops and sure enough they are the same shape! I did = not think they would be all the way up until I laid the one on top of the = other. I even turned the paper sideways to see if I could see the same = shapes if they switched from vertical to horizontal and horizontal to = vertical taking away the horizontal-vertical illusion or at least applying = the illusion to the opposite direction and therefore I thought I would be = able to see the same thing oppositely....I'm trying but I don't know if = that is really making sense. Anyway it didn't work; it must be the table = legs that make the long table look longer no matter what direction and the = short table look shorter. I don't know what pictoral cues or maybe = illusions is the cause if not horizontal-vertical illusion except maybe = the shape constancy; "changes in the tilt or slant of the objects will = cause changes in the shape of the retinal image". But that is a constancy = not an illusion; I think I need to make the distinction between those two = a little more clear for myself. --=__PartEEC945C8.0__= Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
I cut out the table tops and sure enough they are the same shape! I = did not think they would be all the way up until I laid the one o= n top of the other. I even turned the paper sideways to see if I could see = the same shapes if they switched from vertical to horizontal and = horizontal to vertical taking away the horizontal-vertical illusion or at = least applying the illusion to the opposite direction and therefore I = thought I would be able to see the same thing oppositely....I'm trying but = I don't know if that is really making sense. Anyway it didn't work; it = must be the table legs that make the long table look longer no matter what = direction and the short table look shorter. I don't know what pictoral = cues or maybe illusions is the cause if not horizontal-vertical illusion = except maybe the shape constancy; "changes in the tilt or slant = of the objects will cause changes in the shape of the retinal image". But = that is a constancy not an illusion; I think I need to make the distinction= between those two a little more clear for myself.
--=__PartEEC945C8.0__=-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 18:44:30 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Charles Lincoln Allen) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:44:30 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] The Development of Perception Message-ID: <53B33451F353DC4784145300898D36CC701A64@CAMPUSV4.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know we briefly touched on the subject of development of perception in = little children, but I was just wondering around what age is the = perceptual systems thought to be fully developed. Also is there any age = at which it begins to decline without the visual system being the main = cause. I have learned in other classes that the brain is not fully = developed until early adulthood. It would seem that from an evolutionary = standpoint that the perceptual system would need to develop sooner than = that to enhance the chance of survival. Does anyone know anything about = this?=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Development of Perception

I know we briefly touched on the subject of = development of perception in little children, but I was just wondering = around what age is the perceptual systems thought to be fully = developed.  Also is there any age at which it begins to decline = without the visual system being the main cause.  I have learned in = other classes that the brain is not fully developed until early = adulthood. It would seem that from an evolutionary standpoint that the = perceptual system would need to develop sooner than that to enhance the = chance of survival. Does anyone know anything about this?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 17:49:27 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Rutledge) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Visual and Cognitive Connection Message-ID: <576606.33459.qm@web32414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2081662618-1189183767=:33459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am truly amazed about the connection between the visual system and cognit= ion. Before taking this course, I always just assumed that I see what I se= e and that is what it is. I had no idea how much of a role that our cognit= ion has on filling in the gaps and making what we see understandable. Now = that I know that there is this much of a connection, I find myself looking = at things differently and wondering what I would actually be seeing if my c= ognition wasn't correcting the visual inconsistencies. Can you imagine how = different our view of the world would be?=0A=0A=0A ___________________= _________________________________________________________________=0AShape Y= ahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://s= urveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=3D7 =0A=0A --0-2081662618-1189183767=:33459 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am truly amazed about the connection between the vis= ual system and cognition.  Before taking this course, I always just as= sumed that I see what I see and that is what it is.  I had no idea how= much of a role that our cognition has on filling in the gaps and making wh= at we see understandable.  Now that I know that there is this much of = a connection, I find myself looking at things differently and wondering wha= t I would actually be seeing if my cognition wasn't correcting the visual i= nconsistencies. Can you imagine how different our view of the world wo= uld be? 

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----------MB_8C9BFA1EFB45EA2_A7C_12895_webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 7 23:46:50 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (erica smith) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:46:50 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: Sitting through the latest classes have made me wonder if what I'm actually seeing is the real thing. The part that most interested me was when we discussed how a camera takes the picture of what is actually there. He may have gone over this but i can't remember, why do our eyes produce different colors and not the ones that appear? erica smith _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ.  Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 8 08:08:52 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Steve Best) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] The Illusion of Disappearing Objects Message-ID: <24024.82253.qm@web36515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1792629698-1189235332=:82253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While Listening to the past few lectures I remembered reading about a driving phenomenon that occurs on highways that are extremely monotonous or contain relatively little contrast in scenery. I don't remember the scientific term for this event, but it involves the individual becoming temporarily blind to certain objects within his/her direct eyesight. Apparently, a person would be in a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous section of highway, and would suddenly slam headlong into a slower-moving vehicle directly in front of them! After investigating, it would be found that the person saw no obstacle whatsoever in front of them. The obstacle actually became invisible due to the fatigue of the driver's eyesight - it would "melt" into the existing background scenery. Seems to me to be a possible example of perceptual relativity, where the background scenery takes over and influences the context of the foreground, thus making the vehicle in front to "disappear". This phenonemon of course doesn't occur when a driver is alert and fully rested. Does anyone know more about this phenonemon? Perhaps this sensation could be studied in the driving lab that is currently set up to study the effects of cell phone usage... Steve Best --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! --0-1792629698-1189235332=:82253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
While Listening to the past few lectures I remembered reading about a driving phenomenon that occurs on highways that are extremely monotonous or contain relatively little contrast in scenery.  I don't remember the scientific term for this event, but it involves the individual becoming temporarily blind to certain objects within his/her direct eyesight.  Apparently, a person would be in a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous section of highway, and would suddenly slam headlong into a slower-moving vehicle directly in front of them!
 
After investigating, it would be found that the person saw no obstacle whatsoever in front of them.  The obstacle actually became invisible due to the fatigue of the driver's eyesight - it would "melt" into the existing background scenery.
 
Seems to me to be a possible example of perceptual relativity, where the background scenery takes over and influences the context of the foreground, thus making the vehicle in front to "disappear".
 
This phenonemon of course doesn't occur when a driver is alert and fully rested.
Does anyone know more about this phenonemon?
 
Perhaps this sensation could be studied in the driving lab that is currently set up to study the effects of cell phone usage...
 
Steve Best


Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! --0-1792629698-1189235332=:82253-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 8 16:19:29 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dan Lauritzen) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:19:29 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Mirage and illusion Message-ID: ------=_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It is funny, but I had never really thought about the differences in mirages and illusions before. I certainly never knew the actual definition. The thing that I find most interesting about mirages is that while they are physical effects. How our minds perceive them is illusory. We perceive water in the desert rather than realizing that it is merely a reflection of sky. This is real enought that I have even slowed down on barren roads because I didn't want to hydro-plane. Everyone hears stories about people in the desert getting lost and seeing mirages of oasiis. I am not sure if this is true, but the stories lead us to believe that they dilude themselves so much as to drink sand which they believe to be water. It is fascinating to consider how much of our reality we create for ourselves. In a communications class I took we discussed how the meanings of words or ways of speaking are so different in various cultures as to often carry completely different meanings. I always found it amazing that we can communicate at all sometimes. Visual perception I think is similar. We all have the potential to see things so differently, and it really is impressive that there is some consensus on it all. For example, a friend of mine who is color blinds asked us if a game piece was purple or blue. It is so subjective, to him they were pretty much the same, but to us there was a distinct difference. Maybe even more difference for one of us than the other. Tricky stuff. -- Dan Lauritzen ------=_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
It is funny, but I had never really thought about the differences in mirages and illusions before.  I certainly never knew the actual definition.  The thing that I find most interesting about mirages is that while they are physical effects.  How our minds perceive them is illusory.  We perceive water in the desert rather than realizing that it is merely a reflection of sky.  This is real enought that I have even slowed down on barren roads because I didn't want to hydro-plane.  Everyone hears stories about people in the desert getting lost and seeing mirages of oasiis.  I am not sure if this is true, but the stories lead us to believe that they dilude themselves so much as to drink sand which they believe to be water. 
  It is fascinating to consider how much of our reality we create for ourselves.  In a communications class I took we discussed how the meanings of words or ways of speaking are so different in various cultures as to often carry completely different meanings.  I always found it amazing that we can communicate at all sometimes.  Visual perception I think is similar.  We all have the potential to see things so differently, and it really is impressive that there is some consensus on it all.  For example, a friend of mine who is color blinds asked us if a game piece was purple or blue.  It is so subjective, to him they were pretty much the same, but to us there was a distinct difference.  Maybe even more difference for one of us than the other.  Tricky stuff.

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Dan Lauritzen
------=_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 8 19:42:23 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (horii chieko) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 03:42:23 +0900 Subject: [Psych3120] Illusion and Constancies Message-ID: --_de543306-61ab-47a1-86ae-27925a536ff4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As some of the classmates already mentioned, I also thought the interest of knowing the world around us from this class. I just have been perceiving things what I see as just things without thinking carefully, but I found I have been looking them in diffrent point of view as fun. It was also interesting to hear that some illusions like table size or size constancies. Especially, size constancies made me think that peoples affect not only by others as social animal but also objects. For sensitivity, I wonder how interesting human beings are. Chieko Horii _________________________________________________________________ $B%$%s%?!<%M%C%H$r8+$k$J$i:G?7$N(BMSN$BHG(BIE7$B$G!*%@%&%s%m!<%IL5NA(B http://promotion.msn.co.jp/ie7/ --_de543306-61ab-47a1-86ae-27925a536ff4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As some of the classmates already mentioned, I also thought the interest of knowing the world around us from this class.
I just have been perceiving things what I see as just things without thinking carefully, but I found I have been looking them in diffrent
point of view as fun. It was also interesting to hear that some illusions like table size or size constancies.
Especially, size constancies made me think that peoples affect not only by others as social animal but also objects.
For sensitivity, I  wonder how interesting human beings are.
 
Chieko Horii


$B%$%s%?!<%M%C%H$r8+$k$J$i:G?7$N(BMSN$BHG(BIE7$B$G!*%@%&%s%m!<%IL5NA(B http://promotion.msn.co.jp/ie7/ --_de543306-61ab-47a1-86ae-27925a536ff4_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 8 21:50:39 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:50:39 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle: Distance & Size Perception Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C7F227.9F5AE8D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I enjoyed reading the article, Chapter 6 on Distance and Size = Perception, by Matlin and Foley. It is an excellent supplement to = Wednesday's lecture. It gives an in-depth explanation of the topics = that were discussed. Matlin and Foley discuss eight factors to depth = perception, however, two of the components to perceiving depth without = motion cues that are the most significant to me are texture gradient and = shading. I learned about these in a drawing class I took a couple years = ago on campus. I am not artistic at all (my sketch of the human body is = a stick figure!) but I decided to step out of my box, take the class = anyway and challenge myself. I'm glad I did. From the class I learned = how to "look" at objects and how to really "see" them, then "interpret" = them on paper. At first, I drew only what I thought I saw and it didn't = look good because I wasn't drawing what was really there. (Hope this = makes sense). I had to completely change my thinking and draw only what = I was REALLY seeing, not what I thought I was seeing. Another concept I = learned that totally helped me improve my skills was the use of shading = and texture. These two techniques bring out depth in a drawing and help = it look real. What a difference it made in the quality and richness of = my sketches. Once I learned these three elements, my ability to draw = improved immensely. What is perception? It is what we see or what we = think we see? ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C7F227.9F5AE8D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I enjoyed reading the article, Chapter 6 on Distance and Size=20 Perception, by Matlin and Foley.  It is an excellent = supplement=20 to Wednesday's lecture.  It gives an in-depth explanation of = the=20 topics that were discussed.  Matlin and Foley discuss eight = factors to=20 depth perception, however, two of the components to perceiving depth = without=20 motion cues that are the most significant to me are texture = gradient and=20 shading.  I learned about these in a drawing class I took a couple=20 years ago on campus.  I am not artistic at all (my sketch of = the human=20 body is a stick figure!) but I decided to step out of my box, take = the=20 class anyway and challenge myself.  I'm glad I=20 did.  From the class I learned how to "look" at objects and = how to=20 really "see" them, then "interpret" them on paper.  At first, I = drew only=20 what I thought I saw and it didn't look good because I wasn't = drawing what=20 was really there.  (Hope this makes sense).  I had to = completely=20 change my thinking and draw only what I was REALLY seeing, not what I = thought I=20 was seeing.  Another concept I learned that totally = helped=20 me improve my skills was the use of shading and = texture.  These=20 two techniques bring out depth in a drawing and help it look=20 real.  What a difference it made in the quality and richness of my=20 sketches.  Once I learned these three elements, = my ability=20 to draw improved immensely.  What is perception?  It = is what=20 we see or what we think we see? =20          
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C7F227.9F5AE8D0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 8 23:36:05 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Stark) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:36:05 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F268.A4605F89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan's comment on how interesting it is to think that so many people can = see the same thing differently goes along with some thoughts and = observations I've had for years. Such as the color blind friend who = couldn't see the difference between purple and blue game pieces. I have = a brother that is color blind and has always had to ask about purple and = blue and which is which. I've always kind of made fun of him but I can = see where seeing differently from most people can be a huge challenge to = them. He also has trouble with green, brown, and some red and says he = sees stoplights different and can't tell the difference between red and = green (yikes!) but has learned the position of them on the lights and = that is how he knows when to stop and go. Also, I think about springtime = and how everyone gets excited because the world turns green again, the = grass and leaves come alive, and I think how weird it must be not to see = the world in green but in brown, or something different. But I guess if = that is all you have ever seen it doesn't seem weird. Like people in = other cultures who perceive things different from how we do. I think it = would be really interesting if we could for one day see the world = through someone else's eyes- and minds- and perceive it the way they do. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F268.A4605F89 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Dan's comment on how = interesting it is to think that so many people can see the same thing = differently goes along with some thoughts and observations I've had for = years. Such as the color blind friend who couldn't see the difference = between purple and blue game pieces. I have a brother that is color = blind and has always had to ask about purple and blue and which is = which. I've always kind of made fun of him but I can see where seeing = differently from most people can be a huge challenge to them. He also = has trouble with green, brown, and some red and says he sees stoplights = different and can't tell the difference between red and green (yikes!) = but has learned the position of them on the lights and that is how he = knows when to stop and go. Also, I think about springtime and how = everyone gets excited because the world turns green again, the grass and = leaves come alive, and I think how weird it must be not to see the world = in green but in brown, or something different. But I guess if that is = all you have ever seen it doesn't seem weird. Like people in other = cultures who perceive things different from how we do. I think it would = be really interesting if we could for one day see the world through = someone else's eyes- and minds- and perceive it the way they = do.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F268.A4605F89-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 9 00:20:11 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (alyssa Messina) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:20:11 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] vertical vs. horizontal In-Reply-To: <200709081803.l88I34KC011388@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID:

Yeah, the vertical vs. horizontal table illusion is one that I've never figured out, the shapes just seem too different and I can't seem to visualize them as the same no matter how hard I try.  I don't know why this is, but I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the tables seem a little off- they're obviously not portrayed correctly in terms of linear perspective if they were truly rectangles, so maybe some nuances in their crookedness offsets even more of a distinction in our brains. 

When I see these illusions that make vertical lines appear longer than horizontal ones, I recognize the fact that I can't "beat the system", so to speak, as far as forcing my brain to see the lines correctly.  But why would our visual systems develop this way? Could their an evolutionary incentive for accentuating verticality and what would this be?  If anything I would think one would be disadvantaged by this phenomenon in navigating around their world.



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This week I learned the difference between a Mirage and an Illusion(I did not even think there was a differene). An Illusion is psychological where a Mirage is the physical atmosphere. We also learn how objects that are the same size in length can look like two different sizes depending on their suroundings. A rectangle that is fliped on its side can look longer than it did before it was moved because of Horizontal-Vertical. Our eyes play trick on us and sometimes it is hard to tell if it is just a mirage or if it is really physically there.
-Kandis  
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 9 22:58:37 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sofia Rosalinda) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:58:37 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] schemas Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7F2FA.4889E190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First off, let me say that I think we need to move on from the vision = and perception. It's interesting, but really, can we think of a new = topic? You can only ramble on about how great vision is for so long = before it gets old. =20 Anyways, so I figure since we're in cognitive psychology, cognitive = therapy should be interesting. My mom sent me this article since she = knows I'm in this class, and she took cognitive therapy and found it = very helpful, as have I. I put the link here: = http://www.oprah.com/relationships/omag/relationships_omag_200709_schema_= 101.jhtml It's really interesting, because it deals with different schemas people = have. When specific situations arise, these "schemas" are activated by = how we perceive the situation and how we then think about it. Then it = has a nifty little quiz to see which schemas you have according to the = psychologist guy who developed it. It talks about how he found = different schemas interacting with each other in relationships. I think = this can apply not only to romantic relationships, but any relationship = in general. I found it interesting; I have an unrelenting standards = schema, which makes sense since my mom's OCD and growing up that was how = my childhood was governed, with everything having to be "perfect". So I = think it would be interesting to see what other people have. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7F2FA.4889E190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First off, let me say that I think we need to move on from the = vision and=20 perception.  It's interesting, but really, can we think of a new = topic? You=20 can only ramble on about how great vision is for so long before it gets=20 old. 
 
Anyways, so I figure since we're in cognitive psychology, cognitive = therapy=20 should be interesting.  My mom sent me this article since she knows = I'm in=20 this class, and she took cognitive therapy and found it very helpful, as = have=20 I.  I put the link here: http://www.oprah.com/relationships/omag/relationships_= omag_200709_schema_101.jhtml
 
It's really interesting, because it deals with different schemas = people=20 have. When specific situations arise, these "schemas" are activated by = how we=20 perceive the situation and how we then think about it. Then it has a = nifty=20 little quiz to see which schemas you have according to the psychologist = guy who=20 developed it.  It talks about how he found different schemas = interacting=20 with each other in relationships. I think this can apply not only to = romantic=20 relationships, but any relationship in general.  I found it = interesting; I=20 have an unrelenting standards schema, which makes sense since my mom's = OCD and=20 growing up that was how my childhood was governed, with everything = having to be=20 "perfect".  So I think it would be interesting to see what other = people=20 have.
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C7F2FA.4889E190-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 10 04:28:17 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Thomas Blakemore) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:28:17 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Psych3120] Illusions and Relativism Message-ID: <22874458.1189394897954.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Wednesdays class was interesting, not only in seeing the various illusions and mirages but also something the professor said and how it relates to another class of mine. In one of my English classes we are studying modernism and various philosophical ideas that were expressed during the period. On Wednesday (just before our Cognitive Psychology class) we were talking about Nietzsche and relative truth, among other things. Amongst various schools, such as deconstructionism and modern/post-modern hermeneutics, truth and knowledge are viewed as a relative, that is, there is no universal truth or knowledge, these things depend on context. In our class on Wednesday the professor expressed this same idea when he said "There is no reality, everything is relative." Dr. Strayer said this as applied to our perceptions and how we perceive illusions, but he also suggested applying the lesson we learned from illusions philosophically, by which I'm sure he meant to the philosophy of relativism. I thought it was interesting how these classes overlapped and thought I'd share it. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 10 07:24:30 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda Lindsey) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:24:30 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1031 - 6 msgs In-Reply-To: <200709081803.l88I34KC011388@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709081803.l88I34KC011388@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_6ad02152-32c3-4b2e-a34e-cd50f997b675_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It has always been interesting for me to hear the different descriptions of= mirages and that each individual has. I used to kind of think of seeing m= irages as something that never actually happened. I had always grown up wa= tching movies where people saw them when they were experiencing heat exhaus= tion or dehydration. This always seemed like a joke to me. But within the= past couple years my thoughts began to change. I was driving from Califor= nia to Nevada one summer day and i was looking at all the desert around. I= t was at the point when I looked out my window where I saw something that l= ooked like a giant lake in the middle of the desert. This seemed crazy to = me, because I didn't know how it could have been possible. When I asked my= mom if she could see it, she said no, and then when I went to look at it a= gain, it was gone. It was at that point when I realized how different ever= yone's eyes are and how different atmospheres can appear. =20 Amanda Lindsey > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 12:03:04 -0600 > From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1031 - 6 msgs > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. The Development of Perception (Charles Lincoln Allen) > 2. Visual and Cognitive Connection (Erin Rutledge) > 3. Judd Tingey - test2 (thenudecoconut@aol.com) > 4. (no subject) (erica smith) > 5. The Illusion of Disappearing Objects (Steve Best) > 6. Mirage and illusion (Dan Lauritzen) >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:44:30 -0600 > From: "Charles Lincoln Allen" > To: > Subject: [Psych3120] The Development of Perception > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >=20 > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > I know we briefly touched on the subject of development of perception in = =3D > little children, but I was just wondering around what age is the =3D > perceptual systems thought to be fully developed. Also is there any age = =3D > at which it begins to decline without the visual system being the main = =3D > cause. I have learned in other classes that the brain is not fully =3D > developed until early adulthood. It would seem that from an evolutionary = =3D > standpoint that the perceptual system would need to develop sooner than = =3D > that to enhance the chance of survival. Does anyone know anything about = =3D > this?=3D20 >=20 > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > > > > charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> > 6.5.7652.24"> > The Development of Perception > > > >=20 >

I know we briefly touched on the subject of =3D > development of perception in little children, but I was just wondering = =3D > around what age is the perceptual systems thought to be fully =3D > developed.  Also is there any age at which it begins to decline =3D > without the visual system being the main cause.  I have learned in = =3D > other classes that the brain is not fully developed until early =3D > adulthood. It would seem that from an evolutionary standpoint that the = =3D > perceptual system would need to develop sooner than that to enhance the = =3D > chance of survival. Does anyone know anything about this?
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>=20 > > > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C7F176.BE2FE059-- >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erin Rutledge > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: [Psych3120] Visual and Cognitive Connection > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > --0-2081662618-1189183767=3D:33459 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > I am truly amazed about the connection between the visual system and cogn= it=3D > ion. Before taking this course, I always just assumed that I see what I = se=3D > e and that is what it is. I had no idea how much of a role that our cogn= it=3D > ion has on filling in the gaps and making what we see understandable. No= w =3D > that I know that there is this much of a connection, I find myself lookin= g =3D > at things differently and wondering what I would actually be seeing if my= c=3D > ognition wasn't correcting the visual inconsistencies. Can you imagine ho= w =3D > different our view of the world would be?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A ___________= ________=3D > _________________________________________________________________=3D0ASha= pe Y=3D > ahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http:/= /s=3D > urveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=3D3D7 =3D0A=3D0A > --0-2081662618-1189183767=3D:33459 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > = ad>
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>=20 > ----------MB_8C9BFA1EFB45EA2_A7C_12895_webmail-me17.sysops.aol.com-- >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 4 > From: "erica smith" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:46:50 -0600 > Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > Sitting through the latest classes have made me wonder if what I'm actual= ly=20 > seeing is the real thing. The part that most interested me was when we=20 > discussed how a camera takes the picture of what is actually there. He m= ay=20 > have gone over this but i can't remember, why do our eyes produce differe= nt=20 > colors and not the ones that appear? >=20 > erica smith >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes!=20 > http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=3Dredcarpet_hotmailtextl= ink2 >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Best > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: [Psych3120] The Illusion of Disappearing Objects > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > --0-1792629698-1189235332=3D:82253 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >=20 > While Listening to the past few lectures I remembered reading about a dri= ving phenomenon that occurs on highways that are extremely monotonous or co= ntain relatively little contrast in scenery. I don't remember the scientif= ic term for this event, but it involves the individual becoming temporarily= blind to certain objects within his/her direct eyesight. Apparently, a pe= rson would be in a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous section of highw= ay, and would suddenly slam headlong into a slower-moving vehicle directly = in front of them! > =20 > After investigating, it would be found that the person saw no obstacle = whatsoever in front of them. The obstacle actually became invisible due to= the fatigue of the driver's eyesight - it would "melt" into the existing b= ackground scenery. > =20 > Seems to me to be a possible example of perceptual relativity, where th= e background scenery takes over and influences the context of the foregroun= d, thus making the vehicle in front to "disappear".=20 > =20 > This phenonemon of course doesn't occur when a driver is alert and full= y rested. > Does anyone know more about this phenonemon? > =20 > Perhaps this sensation could be studied in the driving lab that is curr= ently set up to study the effects of cell phone usage... > =20 > Steve Best >=20 > =20 > --------------------------------- > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > --0-1792629698-1189235332=3D:82253 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >=20 >
While Listening to the past few lectures I remembered reading about = a driving phenomenon that occurs on highways that are extremely monotonous = or contain relatively little contrast in scenery.  I don't remember th= e scientific term for this event, but it involves the individual becoming t= emporarily blind to certain objects within his/her direct eyesight.  A= pparently, a person would be in a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous s= ection of highway, and would suddenly slam headlong into a slower-movi= ng vehicle directly in front of them!
 
After = investigating, it would be found that the person saw no obstacle whatsoever=  in front of them.  The obstacle actually became invisible due to= the fatigue of the driver's eyesight - it would "melt" into the existing b= ackground scenery.
 
Seems to me to be a possi= ble example of perceptual relativity, where the background scenery takes ov= er and > influences the context of the foreground, thus making the vehicle in fro= nt to "disappear".
 
This phenonemon of cours= e doesn't occur when a driver is alert and fully rested.
Does a= nyone know more about this phenonemon?
 
Perha= ps this sensation could be studied in the driving lab that is cur= rently set up to study the effects of cell phone usage...
 = ;
Steve Best

>


Shape Yahoo! in your own image. =20 > Join our Network Research Panel today!= >=20 > --0-1792629698-1189235332=3D:82253-- >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:19:29 -0600 > From: "Dan Lauritzen" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: [Psych3120] Mirage and illusion > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >=20 > ------=3D_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline >=20 > It is funny, but I had never really thought about the differences in mira= ges > and illusions before. I certainly never knew the actual definition. The > thing that I find most interesting about mirages is that while they are > physical effects. How our minds perceive them is illusory. We perceive > water in the desert rather than realizing that it is merely a reflection = of > sky. This is real enought that I have even slowed down on barren roads > because I didn't want to hydro-plane. Everyone hears stories about peopl= e > in the desert getting lost and seeing mirages of oasiis. I am not sure i= f > this is true, but the stories lead us to believe that they dilude themsel= ves > so much as to drink sand which they believe to be water. > It is fascinating to consider how much of our reality we create for > ourselves. In a communications class I took we discussed how the meaning= s > of words or ways of speaking are so different in various cultures as to > often carry completely different meanings. I always found it amazing tha= t > we can communicate at all sometimes. Visual perception I think is simila= r. > We all have the potential to see things so differently, and it really is > impressive that there is some consensus on it all. For example, a friend= of > mine who is color blinds asked us if a game piece was purple or blue. It= is > so subjective, to him they were pretty much the same, but to us there was= a > distinct difference. Maybe even more difference for one of us than the > other. Tricky stuff. >=20 > --=20 > Dan Lauritzen >=20 > ------=3D_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline >=20 >
It is funny, but I had never really thought about the differences in= mirages and illusions before.  I certainly never knew the actual defi= nition.  The thing that I find most interesting about mirages is that = while they are physical effects.  How our minds perceive them is illus= ory.  We perceive water in the desert rather than realizing that it is= merely a reflection of sky.  This is real enought that I have even sl= owed down on barren roads because I didn't want to hydro-plane.  E= veryone hears stories about people in the desert getting lost and seeing mi= rages of oasiis.  I am not sure if this is true, but the stories lead = us to believe that they dilude themselves so much as to drink sand which th= ey believe to be water. =20 >
>
  It is fascinating to consider how much of our reality we crea= te for ourselves.  In a communications class I took we discussed how t= he meanings of words or ways of speaking are so different in various cultur= es as to often carry completely different meanings.  I always found it= amazing that we can communicate at all sometimes.  Visual perception = I think is similar.  We all have the potential to see things so differ= ently, and it really is impressive that there is some consensus on it all.&= nbsp; For example, a friend of mine who is color blinds asked us if a game = piece was purple or blue.  It is so subjective, to him they were prett= y much the same, but to us there was a distinct difference.  Maybe eve= n more difference for one of us than the other.  Tricky stuff. >

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>=20 > ------=3D_Part_5016_5657177.1189264769222-- >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 >=20 >=20 > End of Psych3120 Digest --_6ad02152-32c3-4b2e-a34e-cd50f997b675_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It has always been interesting for me to hear the different descriptions of= mirages and that each individual has.  I used to kind of think of see= ing mirages as something that never actually happened.  I had always g= rown up watching movies where people saw them when they were experiencing h= eat exhaustion or dehydration.  This always seemed like a joke to me.&= nbsp; But within the past couple years my thoughts began to change.  I= was driving from California to Nevada one summer day and i was looking at = all the desert around.  It was at the point when I looked out my windo= w where I saw something that looked like a giant lake in the middle of the = desert.  This seemed crazy to me, because I didn't know how it could h= ave been possible.  When I asked my mom if she could see it, she said = no, and then when I went to look at it again, it was gone.  It was at = that point when I realized how different everyone's eyes are and how differ= ent atmospheres can appear. 

Amanda Lindsey

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> From: Erin Rutledge &l= t;erinlrutledge@yahoo.com>
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> that I know that there is this much of a conn= ection, I find myself looking =3D
> at things differently and wonderi= ng what I would actually be seeing if my c=3D
> ognition wasn't corre= cting the visual inconsistencies. Can you imagine how =3D
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> a connection, I find myself l= ooking at things differently and wondering wha=3D
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> Subject: [Psych3120] (no subjec= t)
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> Sitting= through the latest classes have made me wonder if what I'm actually
&g= t; seeing is the real thing. The part that most interested me was when we =
> discussed how a camera takes the picture of what is actually there= . He may
> have gone over this but i can't remember, why do our eye= s produce different
> colors and not the ones that appear?
> <= br>> erica smith
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> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:08:= 52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Best <stevenlbest@yahoo.com>
&g= t; To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Psych3120] The Illus= ion of Disappearing Objects
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> While Listening to the past few lectures I remembered readin= g about a driving phenomenon that occurs on highways that are extremely mon= otonous or contain relatively little contrast in scenery. I don't remember= the scientific term for this event, but it involves the individual becomin= g temporarily blind to certain objects within his/her direct eyesight. App= arently, a person would be in a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous sec= tion of highway, and would suddenly slam headlong into a slower-moving vehi= cle directly in front of them!
>
> After investigating, i= t would be found that the person saw no obstacle whatsoever in front of the= m. The obstacle actually became invisible due to the fatigue of the driver= 's eyesight - it would "melt" into the existing background scenery.
>=
> Seems to me to be a possible example of perceptual relativit= y, where the background scenery takes over and influences the context of th= e foreground, thus making the vehicle in front to "disappear".
> =
> This phenonemon of course doesn't occur when a driver is alert a= nd fully rested.
> Does anyone know more about this phenonemon?
= >
> Perhaps this sensation could be studied in the driving l= ab that is currently set up to study the effects of cell phone usage...
= >
> Steve Best
>
>
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> <div>While Listening to the past few l= ectures I remembered reading about a driving phenomenon that occurs on high= ways that are extremely monotonous or contain relatively little contrast in= scenery.&nbsp; I don't remember the scientific term for this event, bu= t it involves the individual becoming temporarily blind to certain objects = within his/her direct eyesight.&nbsp; Apparently, a person would be in = a fatigued state, driving on a monotonous section of highway, and would&= ;nbsp;suddenly slam headlong into a slower-moving vehicle directly in front= of them!</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>After = investigating, it would be found that the person saw no obstacle whatsoever= &nbsp;in front of them.&nbsp; The obstacle actually became invisibl= e due to the fatigue of the driver's eyesight - it would "melt" into the ex= isting background scenery.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> = <div>Seems to me to be a possible example of perceptual relativity, w= here the background scenery takes over and
> influences the context = of the foreground, thus making the vehicle in front to "disappear". </di= v> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>This phenonemon of cou= rse doesn't occur when a driver is alert and fully rested.</div> <= ;div>Does anyone know more about this phenonemon?</div> <div&g= t;&nbsp;</div> <div>Perhaps this&nbsp;sensation could = be&nbsp;studied in the driving lab that is currently set up to study th= e effects of cell phone usage...</div> <div>&nbsp;</div= > <div>Steve Best</div><p>&#32;
> <= ;hr size=3D1>Shape Yahoo! in your own image.
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> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:19:29 -06= 00
> From: "Dan Lauritzen" <lacertadeus@gmail.com>
> To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
> Subject: [Psych3120] Mirage and illus= ion
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> It is funny, but I had never really thoug= ht about the differences in mirages
> and illusions before. I certai= nly never knew the actual definition. The
> thing that I find most i= nteresting about mirages is that while they are
> physical effects. = How our minds perceive them is illusory. We perceive
> water in the = desert rather than realizing that it is merely a reflection of
> sky.= This is real enought that I have even slowed down on barren roads
>= because I didn't want to hydro-plane. Everyone hears stories about people=
> in the desert getting lost and seeing mirages of oasiis. I am not= sure if
> this is true, but the stories lead us to believe that they= dilude themselves
> so much as to drink sand which they believe to b= e water.
> It is fascinating to consider how much of our reality we= create for
> ourselves. In a communications class I took we discuss= ed how the meanings
> of words or ways of speaking are so different i= n various cultures as to
> often carry completely different meanings.= I always found it amazing that
> we can communicate at all sometime= s. Visual perception I think is similar.
> We all have the potential= to see things so differently, and it really is
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= --_6ad02152-32c3-4b2e-a34e-cd50f997b675_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 10 18:02:27 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:02:27 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] Heidi Williams: Mirages Message-ID: <8C9C1E37FF97488-814-7D3@MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8C9C1E37FF97488_814_1004_MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've never heard of or seen superior mirages before wednesday's class.? That was crazy seeing the city reflected in the sky.? What I didn't get was how the difference between the cool air being low and the warm air high made the superior mirage/reflects what you look at in the sky or vice versa for? inferior mirages.? So another?question.??You always hear about people seeing mirages?in the?desert and they're usually a little?out of it but they claim?to not only see water but sometimes?people and other things.? They're all classified under mirages but if?a mirage is a reflection of the sky on?the ground then all the other stuff they?see?is hallucinations or something else other than a mirage?? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9C1E37FF97488_814_1004_MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I've never heard of or seen superior mirages before wednesday's class.  That was crazy seeing the city reflected in the sky.  What I didn't get was how the difference between the cool air being low and the warm air high made the superior mirage/reflects what you look at in the sky or vice versa for  inferior mirages.  So another question.  You always hear about people seeing mirages in the desert and they're usually a little out of it but they claim to not only see water but sometimes people and other things.  They're all classified under mirages but if a mirage is a reflection of the sky on the ground then all the other stuff they see is hallucinations or something else other than a mirage? 

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In todays lecture the profressor talked about color vision, and how rods and cones work.  For a long time now, i have had a difficult time seeing at night mainly when I'm driving.  When I do drive at night the lights from on coming traffic and any lights for that matter seem to blind me.  In the lecture I really didnt understand why that is.  Is it because the rods are somehow affected?



Test your celebrity IQ.  Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 11 04:59:01 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Priest) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:59:01 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] color vision - Melissa Priest Message-ID: Today we discussed color vision in class. I found it interesting that the range of wavelengths we as humans see was referred to a couple of times as the "normal" range of vision. I can guess that "normal" was used in reference to other humans who may not be able to see the full range of colors most of us see. The "normal" range of vision with respect to all species may not be accurate. I wondered during class whether there are colors or reflections of light we do not see and therefore cannot name or explain. I also questioned the range of color we as humans see and the evolutionary advantages of such a range. For example what about seeing blue inabled our fittest to see? Might it have been the ability to differentiate the sky from the earth creating better depth perception. Which in turn improved our ability to determine whether or not an object of threat was approaching. I'm guessing too that if we did not have blue specific cones, we too would not be able to see colors that are created from blue (ie purple, yellow, etc). Can people who do not have the S (short) wavelength cones see white and black as white and black was explained as being the complete reflection or absorption of light? I guess they can being that any color can be completely unsaturated of its pure color leading to white. just some thoughts.... From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 11 23:33:53 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Danielle Cysewski) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:33:53 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Illusions, Constancies, and Color References: <200709111803.l8BI34Pl024247@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C7F491.8A4AC660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found the lecture on Illusions and Constancies very interesting. It's = funny how our perceptual system can be tricked so easily into seeing the = Ames room as rectangular, or the window pain as swinging back and forth = rather than in a circle, yet our minds also fix some would-be-illusions = quickly and effortlessly.=20 The difference between cat/dog/human color vision is fascinating. I have = a cat, and I notice that sometimes when I give him a treat, he sniffs to = find it rather than just walking over to it. Based on what I know about = cats' visual systems now, I can understand that the treat may blend in = with the hardwood floor and become difficult/impossible to see.=20 Danielle Cysewski ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C7F491.8A4AC660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I found the lecture on Illusions and Constancies very interesting. = It's=20 funny how our perceptual system can be tricked so easily into seeing the = Ames=20 room as rectangular, or the window pain as swinging back and forth = rather than=20 in a circle, yet our minds also fix some would-be-illusions quickly and=20 effortlessly.
 
The difference between cat/dog/human color vision is fascinating. I = have a=20 cat, and I notice that sometimes when I give him a treat, he sniffs to = find it=20 rather than just walking over to it. Based on what I know about cats' = visual=20 systems now, I can understand that the treat may blend in with the = hardwood=20 floor and become difficult/impossible to see.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C7F491.8A4AC660-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 01:38:48 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Davenport) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:38:48 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Color is Awesome! In-Reply-To: <200709111803.l8BI34Pl024247@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709111803.l8BI34Pl024247@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_767575b2-e7e3-4f88-aa90-38d0328b4b2c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in our past lecture this week, we talked about color and the impact it has = on our life. We have all heard and learned about color to some extent. We know that it i= s not really there and just wavelengths of light, and that these colors fall on the spectrum o= f a rainbow.=20 Well I have never put much thought on color and learned the details of colo= r til now. it is not just a subject that we learn about in school, Color influences ou= r lives on so many levels, for example: We would not know when our meat was fully cooked, we would not be able to s= uccessfully drive in=20 traffic with out fearing that our judgement on the light being red or green= , will be purely just a guess, we would never know if bananas were ripe when shopping for them. Color is = all around us and gives us=20 information back on the object we are viewing. Color is such a privilege to see and truly a blessing to have. We learn tha= t a high percentage of=20 people are some what color blind and i find this exremely interesting. I also find it interesting that studies are now finding that if we were to = change our=20 roofing to a lighter color, we would notice a change in temperature in our = houses and our cities. I would love to see this in my life time! Color is Awesome!! > Date: Tue, 1= 1 Sep 2007 12:03:04 -0600> From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Sub= ject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1035 - 2 msgs> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah= .edu> > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> psych3120@lists.csbs.ut= ah.edu> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http:/= /lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or, via email, send a message = with subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > Yo= u can reach the person managing the list at> psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.uta= h.edu> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specifi= c> than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Co= lor Vision (sapna bhakta)> 2. color vision - Melissa Priest (Melissa Priest= )> > --__--__--> > Message: 1> From: "sapna bhakta" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:09:34 +00= 00> Subject: [Psych3120] Color Vision> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.= edu> >
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In toda= ys lecture the profressor talked about color vision, and how rods and cones= work.  For a long time now, i have had a difficult time seeing at nig= ht mainly when I'm driving.  When I do drive at night the lights from = on coming traffic and any lights for that matter seem to blind me= .  In the lecture I really didnt understand why that is.  Is it b= ecause the rods are somehow affected?

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Test your celebrity I= Q. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! > > > --__--__= --> > Message: 2> From: "Melissa Priest" > To: psyc= h3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:59:01 +0000> Subject: = [Psych3120] color vision - Melissa Priest> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.u= tah.edu> > Today we discussed color vision in class. I found it interesting= that the > range of wavelengths we as humans see was referred to a couple = of times as > the "normal" range of vision. I can guess that "normal" was u= sed in > reference to other humans who may not be able to see the full rang= e of > colors most of us see. The "normal" range of vision with respect to = all > species may not be accurate. I wondered during class whether there ar= e > colors or reflections of light we do not see and therefore cannot name = or > explain. I also questioned the range of color we as humans see and the= > evolutionary advantages of such a range. For example what about seeing b= lue > inabled our fittest to see? Might it have been the ability to differe= ntiate > the sky from the earth creating better depth perception. Which in = turn > improved our ability to determine whether or not an object of threat= was > approaching. I'm guessing too that if we did not have blue specific = cones, > we too would not be able to see colors that are created from blue = (ie > purple, yellow, etc). Can people who do not have the S (short) wavele= ngth > cones see white and black as white and black was explained as being = the > complete reflection or absorption of light? I guess they can being th= at any > color can be completely unsaturated of its pure color leading to w= hite.> > just some thoughts....> > > > > --__--__--> > ____________________= ___________________________> Psych3120 mailing list> Psych3120@lists.csbs.u= tah.edu> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> > > End of Psyc= h3120 Digest _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_mig= ration_HM_mini_5G_0907= --_767575b2-e7e3-4f88-aa90-38d0328b4b2c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
in our past lecture this week, we talked about color and the impact it = has on our life.
We have all heard and learned about color to some extent. We know that it i= s not really there
and just wavelengths of light, and that these colors fall on the spectrum o= f a rainbow.
Well I have never put much thought on color and learned the details of colo= r til now.
it is not just a subject that we learn about in school, Color influences ou= r lives on so many levels, for example:
We would not know when our meat was fully cooked, we would not be able to s= uccessfully drive in
traffic with out fearing that our judgement on the light being red or green= , will be purely just a guess,
we would never know if bananas were ripe when shopping for them.  Colo= r is all around us and gives us
information back on the object we are viewing.
Color is such a privilege to see and truly a blessing to have. We learn tha= t a high percentage of
people are some what color blind and i find this exremely interesting.
I also find it interesting that studies are now finding that if we were to = change our
roofing to a lighter color, we would notice a change in temperature in our = houses and our cities.
I would love to see this in my life time! Color is Awesome!!
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More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Wind= ows Live=99 Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! = --_767575b2-e7e3-4f88-aa90-38d0328b4b2c_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 04:38:04 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Psychology of color Message-ID: <449354.32178.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This last lecture focused on how we perceive color, color blindness and mixing. As an artist, and especially as a psych student interested in art, I am fascinated with this aspect of visual perception. During my art carreer, I was schooled in mixing colors, the color wheel, and the false perceptions the eye can interpret when seeing color (paint) from a distance. It is really fascinating. How light, and hue affect color is really apparant in art (as well as the natural world, or photography). However, while I studied a great deal about subtractive colours, I did not study additive in art school, and this intrigues me- how light, when mixed together, produces different colors. (Finally, the back of the tv monitor makes sense to me!) One thing I wanted to mention- at the end of class we talked about the psychological properties of color- that hue, saturation, and brightness are all part of a 'reaction' to a wavelength of light. Something to note- while we, the psychology students, are studying this 'reaction to light', art students study the psychological reaction to color itself. How different colors evoke different responses in people, from anger and increasing warmth, to coolness and calm. It is an interesting overlap, and something I think is well worth noting- especially as we head into the field of psychology, working with different pathologies. For instance, having a therapy room that is full of a warm and soothing color, with lots of light, might create a different 'perception' than white walls. Just a thought, while we are still studying the eye itself, that the eye and its perception leads to deeper processes at the same time. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 16:12:47 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Natalie Peatross Message-ID: <126994.53086.qm@web51509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-122604933-1189609967=:53086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I went to the Keith Urban concert last night and it was very fun! While I was there I noticed all the lights and colors of lights used and I had to tell my friends the reason the lights were white. It was fun. Then I noticed how when they used different colors, when the colors hit the stage and touched on other colors the colors changed on the stage. It was nice to have extra knowledge about the world I live in. I am wondering why colors are colors...What makes blue and red and any color. I know we learned it has to do with the light from the sun...but take an orange for example, when the sun hits the orange why does it obsorb the orange and not the red? What decides or determines that the orange should be orange and not blue? How does the light know what to reflect? --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --0-122604933-1189609967=:53086 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I went to the Keith Urban concert last night and it was very fun! While I was there I noticed all the lights and colors of lights used and I had to tell my friends the reason the lights were white. It was fun. Then I noticed how when they used different colors, when the colors hit the stage and touched on other colors the colors changed on the stage. It was nice to have extra knowledge about the world I live in.  I am wondering why colors are colors...What makes blue and red and any color. I know we learned it has to do with the light from the sun...but take an orange for example, when the sun hits the orange why does it obsorb the orange and not the red?  What decides or determines that the orange should be orange and not blue?  How does the light know what to reflect?


Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --0-122604933-1189609967=:53086-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 16:14:09 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:14:09 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Illusions, Constancies, and Color In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree, it is so interesting to see how animals' vision is different than ours. I remember a cartoon that I watched when I was little that had a dog in it and it would occasionally show things from his view...It was definitely portrayed differently than what their vision is actually like, but because of this class I can recognize that. I thought the most interesting thing was that bees could see parts of flowers that we do not see. I'm sure this is why they are attracted to particular parts of the flower and are able to pollenate them. >From: "Danielle Cysewski" >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: >Subject: [Psych3120] Illusions, Constancies, and Color >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:33:53 -0600 > >I found the lecture on Illusions and Constancies very interesting. It's >funny how our perceptual system can be tricked so easily into seeing the >Ames room as rectangular, or the window pain as swinging back and forth >rather than in a circle, yet our minds also fix some would-be-illusions >quickly and effortlessly. > >The difference between cat/dog/human color vision is fascinating. I have a >cat, and I notice that sometimes when I give him a treat, he sniffs to find >it rather than just walking over to it. Based on what I know about cats' >visual systems now, I can understand that the treat may blend in with the >hardwood floor and become difficult/impossible to see. > >Danielle Cysewski From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 21:55:04 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1035 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <200709111803.l8BI34Pl024247@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <213479.97146.qm@web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1247937956-1189630504=:97146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think I understand the difference between apperceptive agnosia and associative agnosia but I just wanted to make sure. In apperceptive you can't copy something, you have no idea what the image you are looking at is. Associative agnosia is similar in that you do not know what you are looking at but you can still at least copy it and recreate it. Associative you can see shapes and figures but can't add them up to see what they represent. Apperceptive you can't even identify the shapes, lines, etc... Does that sound right? Joe Boyer psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Color Vision (sapna bhakta) 2. color vision - Melissa Priest (Melissa Priest) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "sapna bhakta" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:09:34 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Color Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu In todays lecture the profressor talked about color vision, and how rods and cones work. For a long time now, i have had a difficult time seeing at night mainly when I'm driving. When I do drive at night the lights from on coming traffic and any lights for that matter seem to blind me. In the lecture I really didnt understand why that is. Is it because the rods are somehow affected? --------------------------------- Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Melissa Priest" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:59:01 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] color vision - Melissa Priest Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Today we discussed color vision in class. I found it interesting that the range of wavelengths we as humans see was referred to a couple of times as the "normal" range of vision. I can guess that "normal" was used in reference to other humans who may not be able to see the full range of colors most of us see. The "normal" range of vision with respect to all species may not be accurate. I wondered during class whether there are colors or reflections of light we do not see and therefore cannot name or explain. I also questioned the range of color we as humans see and the evolutionary advantages of such a range. For example what about seeing blue inabled our fittest to see? Might it have been the ability to differentiate the sky from the earth creating better depth perception. Which in turn improved our ability to determine whether or not an object of threat was approaching. I'm guessing too that if we did not have blue specific cones, we too would not be able to see colors that are created from blue (ie purple, yellow, etc). Can people who do not have the S (short) wavelength cones see white and black as white and black was explained as being the complete reflection or absorption of light? I guess they can being that any color can be completely unsaturated of its pure color leading to white. just some thoughts.... --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Psych3120 mailing list Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 End of Psych3120 Digest --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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I think I understand the difference between apperceptive agnosia and associative agnosia but I just wanted to make sure. In apperceptive you can't copy something, you have no idea what the image you are looking at is. Associative agnosia is similar in that you do not know what you are looking at but you can still at least copy it and recreate it. Associative you can see shapes and figures but can't add them up to see what they represent. Apperceptive you can't even identify the shapes, lines, etc... Does that sound right?
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In todays lecture the profressor talked about color vision, and how rods and cones work.  For a long time now, i have had a difficult time seeing at night mainly when I'm driving.  When I do drive at night the lights from on coming traffic and any lights for that matter seem to blind me.  In the lecture I really didnt understand why that is.  Is it because the rods are somehow affected?




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Subject: [Psych3120] color vision - Melissa Priest
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Today we discussed color vision in class. I found it interesting that the
range of wavelengths we as humans see was referred to a couple of times as
the "normal" range of vision. I can guess that "normal" was used in
reference to other humans who may not be able to see the full range of
colors most of us see. The "normal" range of vision with respect to all
species may not be accurate. I wondered during class whether there are
colors or reflections of light we do not see and therefore cannot name or
explain. I also questioned the range of color we as humans see and the
evolutionary advantages of such a range. For example what about seeing blue
inabled our fittest to see? Might it have been the ability to differentiate
the sky from the earth creating better depth perception. Which in turn
improved our ability to determine whether or not an object of threat was
approaching. I'm guessing too that if we did not have blue specific cones,
we too would not be able to see colors that are created from blue (ie
purple, yellow, etc). Can people who do not have the S (short) wavelength
cones see white and black as white and black was explained as being the
complete reflection or absorption of light? I guess they can being that any
color can be completely unsaturated of its pure color leading to white.

just some thoughts....




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Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --0-1247937956-1189630504=:97146-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 12 22:35:32 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Priest) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:35:32 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Prosopagnosia, Pattern Recognition - Melissa Priest Message-ID: Dr. Kesner told a story last semester in Brain and Behavior about a man with prosopagnosia of the amnesic type in which he was not able to recognize familiar faces. This man was at a party and on his way out he caught his reflection in a mirror and then told the person 'good night'. He did not even recognize his own face. The Pandemonium model suggests that the more complex the pattern of shapes, the longer it takes to arrive at a decision as to what it is. The Interactive Activation model explains a mechanism for decreasing the time necessary for consolidating features into a meaningful object. Like words, does this model suggest that we have consolidated preset patterns for vast numbers of known objects which speeds our processing of visual information? Where and how does our memory system fit into this process? I would guess there is some overlap. Are visual memories stored in the inferior temporal region of the brain, while other forms of memory stored elsewhere in the brain? I would guess its not that cut and dry. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 00:18:58 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Matt Hansen) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Eye of Thundara, give me sight beyond sight! Message-ID: <574940.73177.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Today in class we learned of the artist that painted the fruit in black and white with a bright colored orange in the center. It was interesting to me that the artist, in the process of losing his color vision became less enthusiastic about life. His appetite for food was not the same or even his desire to be with his wife suffered. Hearing about his story made me thing of people that are color blind, especially monochromatic. Do people that are colorblind exhibit a higher rate of depression, loss of appetite, etc... It is very probable that being color blind has no difference among the population. In the case of the artist his loss of color vision was a complete shock. He had memories of what color looks like. For most people that are color blind this shock did not take place. On the other hand... When I was a young lad my mother would always drag me out of the house to see the color changing leaves in the fall season. I thought that this was the most boring thing to do on earth. Later on I had my vision corrected and looking at the leaves really became kinda neat. It was way better when I could actually see clearly. For the longest time I didn't even know what I was missing. Does this story relate to being color blind...? You be the judge. Matt Hansen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 05:04:47 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Todd Aylesworth) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:04:47 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] perception- Todd Aylesworth Message-ID: ------=_Part_20330_28913046.1189656287694 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline First I thought this class would be another class talking about psychology > stuff... from the beginning I have found that this class has been in direct > accordance with another book I am reading "This is your brain on music". I > am a music freak. so therefore I am eager to learn how and why I love the > things I listen to. In addition I am very thankful that I have all my > senses. if not I couldn't have seen all the letters in the dots of colors, > seen the mirages(the city skyline upside down in the sky), the many > illusions of faces and structures and colors differences in color. if > anything this class is making realize I there is so much that can go wrong > cognitively. ------=_Part_20330_28913046.1189656287694 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline First I thought this class would be another class talking about psychology
> stuff... from the beginning I have found that this class has been in direct
> accordance with another book I am reading "This is your brain on music". I
> am a music freak. so therefore I am eager to learn how and why I love the
> things I listen to. In addition I am very thankful that I have all my
> senses. if not I couldn't have seen all the letters in the dots of colors,
> seen the mirages(the city skyline upside down in the sky), the many
> illusions of faces and structures and colors differences in color. if
> anything this class is making realize I there is so much that can go wrong
> cognitively. ------=_Part_20330_28913046.1189656287694-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 05:06:34 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Todd Aylesworth) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:06:34 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] American Flag color change- Todd Aylesworth Message-ID: ------=_Part_20335_2497374.1189656394688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I had seen the American flag yellow and green somewhere else before. I think > it was a text book back in high school. The book was trying to show that > all colors have it's opposite. at that time tried to reproduce different > colors the same way with other colors. I think I tried doing the flag with > red, white and blue to see if the effect was reversible. low ans behold it > worked . > I didn't know that dogs could see in color, I thought it was just black > and white. I reminded me of another perception about Bart's dog on the > simpsons, whenever the Simpsons would talk to the dog, all he would hear was > blah blah blah. thats probably for another topic, but thats what I thought > of. ------=_Part_20335_2497374.1189656394688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I had seen the American flag yellow and green somewhere else before. I think
> it was a text book back in high school.  The book was trying to show that
> all colors have it's opposite. at that time tried to reproduce different
> colors the same way with other colors. I think I tried doing the flag with
> red, white and blue to see if the effect was reversible.  low ans behold it
> worked .
> I  didn't know that dogs  could see in color, I thought it was just black
> and white. I reminded me of another perception about Bart's dog on the
> simpsons, whenever the Simpsons would talk to the dog, all he would hear was
> blah blah blah. thats probably for another topic, but thats what I thought
> of. ------=_Part_20335_2497374.1189656394688-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 05:56:06 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:56:06 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] different vision problems Message-ID: <8162db450709122156r619f841w987ab75fd878ebf2@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_20453_117509.1189659366393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I find the different disorders related to the cognitive aspects of vision to be fascinating. I think that the different disorders serve to educate us a great deal about the intricacy's of the human mind. The fact that there is a specific disorder that relates to people's inability to properly recognize faces is intresting because it points towards there being potentially a part of the brain that is responsible specifically for people's faces. I also think that it is intresting that people can have great vision but not recognize that is is there key that they have like in visual agnosia. these are my thoughts, Bill Shelton ------=_Part_20453_117509.1189659366393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I find the different disorders related to the cognitive aspects of vision to be fascinating.  I think that the different disorders serve to educate us a great deal about the intricacy's of the human mind.  The fact that there is a specific disorder that relates to people's inability to properly recognize faces is intresting because it points towards there being potentially a part of the brain that is responsible specifically for people's faces. I also think that it is intresting that people can have great vision but not recognize that is is there key that they have like in visual agnosia.  these are my thoughts,

Bill Shelton
------=_Part_20453_117509.1189659366393-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 16:03:58 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kandis Beverley) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:03:58 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Color Message-ID:
 Well I went home last night and talked to my husband about class on Wednesday. I told him about how if you put an equal amount of green, blue and red light you get white light. If you add red, yellow and blue light you get Black. He would not believe me that green blue and red make white light!! I just thought that was funny.
  My freshman year in college I took a painting class. So when the teacher said that subtractive color mixing was more difficult, I knew what he was talking about.  In painting, if we had a color that you wanted to change the brighness on you would either use white to brighten it or black to darken it. If I was trying to darken the brightness, even one extra drop of black paint could send the color too dark. If we wanted to dull down the color but not the brightness, we would use the opposit color of what we were painting with.
-Kandis Beverley 
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 13 17:11:36 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Rutledge) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Color Vision Message-ID: <814421.26946.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1995185140-1189699896=:26946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was intrigued with Monday's lecture on color vision. I had heard in the = past that some animals see things differently than humans do and was amazed= to see just exactly how different our visual systems truly are. Our world= is full of vibrant color and it is weird to imagine that everything we see= as color would only appear to be bland hues of tan to gray for cats and do= gs. However, the difference between our visual system and the bees visual = system intrigues me the most with them seeing a white and pink flower from = the bright yellow flower that we see.=0A=0A=0A _______________________= _____________________________________________________________=0ADon't let y= our dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos.=0Ahttp://a= utos.yahoo.com/index.html=0A =0A=0A --0-1995185140-1189699896=:26946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Or, for my scotopic vision to kick in and for my rods to lower their threshold and adapt to the dark. When the flashlight came to my eys, my cones kicked in and triggered my photopic vision which made it harder for my eyes to adapt to the dark. The red filters that he talked about the marine's using would have been very helpful and I might try to get some make-shift red filters next time I go on a night hike. _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 14 02:10:25 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Depth Perception-age Message-ID: <242573.10845.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all- this is in response to Steve's comment on the article his brother read. I have never heard about depth perception not being developed until about age 21, but I have read articles on the frontal lobe not being developed until then. However, when I studied and then taught art at a small school, we could not teach perspective drawing to kids until they were over the age of 8. Until around that age (for some, it was earlier), many images were still 2-dimensional, and the 3rd dimension would not clarify, unless, as was mentioned in the lecture on certain types of blindness, the objects were touched. I would love to know the actual part of the brain, and the age it develops by, normally, to understand this further. On another note, I was really fascinated with the different 'forms of blindness' we learned about in class. The discrepancies that result in the visual system being impaired in some way. In my volunteer position, I work with a young teen who is disabled, and is 'legally blind'. His parents never qualified what that meant. He can see some things, and if he holds a paper up to his nose, he can read script. I explain alot of it to him, because reading is so hard. Situations are worse, and if he does not 'know' a space, such as a room, by walking through it and feeling it, he cannot find his way around. This Sunday, I am going to see if I can find out more (he is very open and sharing with me) to understand which type of blindness it is... From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 14 03:14:34 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spenser Harris) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:14:34 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Ambiguous Figure and Cognitive Disorders Message-ID: --_725f00f2-7170-4192-8974-8adf4dfec60c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, I wanted to ask everybody if they can see the two objects in this am= biguous figure Dr. Strayer put on the class webpage. I can only see the fac= e that is looking to the bottom left. http://www.psych.utah.edu/psych3120-c= lassroom/liar.gif =20 Secondly, I wanted to share something my dad told me when I telling him abo= ut the different visual disorders we learned about Wed, Sep 12. He told me = that in college he knew a guy who had a brain disorder where if you showed = him an object, he could tell you what it did, but he couldn't tell you what= it was called unless you told him. For instance, if you showed him a key, = he'd tell you that it was the thing that would unlock a door or start a car= , but couldn't say the name. If you told him it was a key, he could say it = then, but if you showed him the key again later, he again wouldn't be able = to say it. Later, my dad learned that the reason he couldn't say the name o= f the object was that the pathway between the memory centers and the speech= centers of his brain were damaged. This sounded pretty similar to the visu= al disorders we learned about, and I'm wondering if we're gonna learn about= it later in the semester. _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus= --_725f00f2-7170-4192-8974-8adf4dfec60c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, I wanted to ask everybody if they can see the two objects in this am= biguous figure Dr. Strayer put on the class webpage. I can only see the fac= e that is looking to the bottom left. http://www.psych.utah.edu/psych3120-classroom= /liar.gif
 
Secondly, I wanted to share something my dad told me when I telling hi= m about the different visual disorders we learned about Wed, Sep 12. He tol= d me that in college he knew a guy who had a brain disorder where if you sh= owed him an object, he could tell you what it did, but he couldn't tel= l you what it was called unless you told him. For instance, if you showed h= im a key, he'd tell you that it was the thing that would unlock a door or s= tart a car, but couldn't say the name. If you told him it was a key, he cou= ld say it then, but if you showed him the key again later, he again wouldn'= t be able to say it. Later, my dad learned that the reason he couldn't say = the name of the object was that the pathway between the memory centers and = the speech centers of his brain were damaged. This sounded pretty similar t= o the visual disorders we learned about, and I'm wondering if we're gonna l= earn about it later in the semester.


Make your little o= ne a shining star! Shine on! = --_725f00f2-7170-4192-8974-8adf4dfec60c_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 14 05:06:36 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Pattern recognition. David Dunn Message-ID: <508645.54848.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-855515923-1189742796=:54848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When discussing pattern recognition and the various theories that attempt to explain how our mind is able to distinguish between various shapes, letters, etc. I found the Pandemonium Model to make the most sense. I doubt that Milton, the creator of Pandemonium in Paradise Lost foresaw his creation to be the means of explaining pattern recognition. However, the explanation of how the visual cortex has various portions that recognize features of letters, etc. and is later able to put them together to recognize them as the letter they are is ingenious. The model that was demonstrated in class with the demons makes this theory quite easy to understand. The letter “R” is viewed and then processed by it’s obtaining a vertical line, a semi-circle at the top and a diagonal line at the bottom initiates a screaming response by the “R” demon which tells the mind that the image must be the letter “R’. Because of this, when searching for other letters that carry some of the same properties such as B, or P, the process is slowed down, however when viewing the letter “V” which has none of the same similarities of that of the letter “R” it is quickly recognized. Having this phenomenon explained in such a manner really makes it quite easy to understand the whole recognition process. David Dunn --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. --0-855515923-1189742796=:54848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
When discussing pattern recognition and the various theories that attempt to explain how our mind is able to distinguish between various shapes, letters, etc. I found the Pandemonium Model to make the most sense.  I doubt that Milton, the creator of Pandemonium in Paradise Lost foresaw his creation to be the means of explaining pattern recognition.  However, the explanation of how the visual cortex has various portions that recognize features of letters, etc. and is later able to put them together to recognize them as the letter they are is ingenious.  The model that was demonstrated in class with the demons makes this theory quite easy to understand.   The letter “R” is viewed and then processed by it’s obtaining a vertical line, a semi-circle at the top and a diagonal line at the bottom initiates a screaming response by the “R” demon which tells the mind that the image must be the letter “R’.  Because of this, when searching for other letters that carry some of the same properties such as B, or P, the process is slowed down, however when viewing the letter “V” which has none of the same similarities of that of the letter “R” it is quickly recognized. 
 
Having this phenomenon explained in such a manner really makes it quite easy to understand the whole recognition process.   
 
David Dunn


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My boyfriend has trouble telling a difference between = black and blue and it has been a joke between us that he is color blin= d.  Well, after taking this course and learning what color blind reall= y is, his black/blue thing did not really fit in with the opponent process = theory of color opposites because he can see black and he can see blue.&nbs= p; But, I put him to the test anyway with the slides from Monday's lecture = to see if he could see all the numbers...and he passed the test.  So, = he is not color blind and maybe he just has issues with telling the differe= nce between the saturation of dark colors.  Although he is not color b= lind, I may still continue to tease him the next time he comes home from wo= rk not realizing that he went the whole day with one blue sock and one black sock on. 

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Tonight's top p= icks. What will you watch tonight? =0APreview t= he hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. =0A --0-888613936-1189797821=:37288-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 14 21:54:27 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Diana Alleman) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:54:27 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Diana Alleman Message-ID: Topic: Color Deficiencies I wonder how many people realize if they are color blind and what is the average age people find out? Also, why is it that men are more likely to have this deficiency over women? For the past year I’ve been wondering if I have a minor case of color blindness. In class we looked at slides with various numbers hidden in different dotted color schemes to see if we could decipher the number within. I have to admit that there were about three that I really had to concentrate on. Now I can’t help but to do my research and take another test to figure out what is going on with my color vision From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 14 23:02:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (MR. Robert Lee Lambert) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] 10% of the brain In-Reply-To: <8C9BE0ACB553F03-AE0-22E7@MBLK-M33.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <264840.91231.qm@web51708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A common myth that I believed is that we use only 10% of our brain. I think a lot of people still believe that. But thanks to this class, It really doesn't make sense at all. With conditions such as Apperceptive Agnosia, Achromatopsia, Akintopisa etc, it sure would be hard if all of these disorders would just happen in a mere 10% of the brain. Furthermore, I would really like to read a journal or case study with someone with Akintopisa. It's very interesting. How could someone adapt to something like looking through a strobe light all the time? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 00:10:43 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (erica smith) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:10:43 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] color blind Message-ID: --_0853ba3b-d2a0-4ee7-bc32-d4aaf8891631_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In listening to the lecture on colorblindness, i was a little confused when= it came to the cones and rods. I understand there are three cones, and th= at a person who is color blind lacks one or more, but an eye has many cones= , so its just a certain type of cone they are lacking correct? I was also t= alking to a friend this weekend who is colorblind except for his is a littl= e different. when there is a certain color, especially red and green, one = will overpower the other, for example; At Easter time his family would hide= a bright red egg in the middle of the lawn but he couldn't see it, since t= he lawn was green it overpowered the red, so to him it appeared green. Ha= ha i just thought that was way interesting that he can see colors but when= one is stronger it overpowers others. It was kind of a different take on a= type of color deficiency.=20 erica smith _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words?=A0 Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=3Dseek_wlmailtextlink= --_0853ba3b-d2a0-4ee7-bc32-d4aaf8891631_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In listening to the lecture on colorblindness, i was a little confused when= it came to the cones and rods.  I understand there are three cones, a= nd that a person who is color blind lacks one or more, but an eye has many = cones, so its just a certain type of cone they are lacking correct? I was a= lso talking to a friend this weekend who is colorblind except for his is a = little different.  when there is a certain color, especially red and g= reen, one will overpower the other, for example; At Easter time his family = would hide a bright red egg in the middle of the lawn but he couldn't see i= t, since the lawn was green it overpowered the red, so to him it appeared g= reen.   Ha ha i just thought that was way interesting that he can= see colors but when one is stronger it overpowers others. It was kind of a= different take on a type of color deficiency.

erica smith


Can you find the hidden words?=A0 Take a break and play Seekadoo! Play now! = --_0853ba3b-d2a0-4ee7-bc32-d4aaf8891631_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 00:49:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Associative Agnosia Message-ID: <960136.34583.qm@web50808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-423738366-1189813782=:34583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I find that people with associative agnosia to be quite interesting. It's amazing that they cannot assign meaning to an object, animal or building that they can see clearly. So in most cases this is because of head injuries? I can't imagnine being able to copy ordraw things that I cannot recognize. I read that disorder appears to be very uncommon iand is usually accompanied by other complex neuropsychological problems such as impaired language or memory. The affected individual may not realize that they have a visual problem and may complain of becoming "clumsy" or "muddled" when performing familiar tasks such as setting the table . --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. --0-423738366-1189813782=:34583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
I find that people with associative agnosia to be quite interesting. It's amazing that they cannot assign meaning to an object, animal or building that they can see clearly. So in most cases this is because of head injuries?  I can't imagnine being able to copy ordraw things that I cannot recognize. I read that disorder appears to be very uncommon iand is usually accompanied by other complex neuropsychological problems such as impaired language or memory. The affected individual may not realize that they have a visual problem and may complain of becoming "clumsy" or "muddled" when performing familiar tasks such as setting the table .


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Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. --0-423738366-1189813782=:34583-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 05:12:59 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:12:59 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Julie Hinckle: Neuropsychology of Vision Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C7F71C.68AC5D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For several years, I was a teaching assistant in the Resource Program = (elementary level) in the public school system. Resource is a program = designed to help children who have low skills in specific academic = areas. For a student to qualify, they are administered a battery of = tests (i.e., IQ, psychological, cognitive functioning, speech & motor, = etc.) to determine if they are below grade level. The results of the = tests are reviewed and a determination is made if the student is = deficient in one or more areas. If so, the student will spend a = specific amount of time each week in the Resource room where additional = instruction is given. Many of the students I worked with in Resource = were identified as 'Learning Disabled', which is a broad definition. = Several of the students not only had difficulty drawing simple pictures = with a crayon, but also copying words, numbers and symbols off the = chalkboard or from a workbook onto paper. Many of them continued to = struggle with this task even as they went from grade level to grade = level. After going over my notes from Monday's lecture, it made we = wonder if some of the students I worked with might have had apperceptive = agnosia, where you can see an object, but cannot copy it or perceive the = shape. Are people tested for this disorder by the same battery of = tests? I also wonder if apperceptive agnosia might be related to = dyslexia in some way. Dyslexia is a brain condition that causes = difficulty in reading, spelling and language use. The two disorders = sound very similar. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C7F71C.68AC5D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For several years, I was a teaching assistant in the Resource = Program=20 (elementary level) in the public school system.  Resource is a = program=20 designed to help children who have low skills in specific academic = areas. =20 For a student to qualify, they are administered a battery of tests = (i.e., IQ,=20 psychological, cognitive functioning, speech & motor, etc.) to = determine if=20 they are below grade level.  The results of the tests = are reviewed and=20 a determination is made if the student is deficient in one or more = areas. =20 If so, the student will spend a specific amount of time each week in the = Resource room where additional instruction is given.  = Many of the=20 students I worked with in Resource were identified as 'Learning = Disabled',=20 which is a broad definition.  Several of the students not only = had=20 difficulty drawing simple pictures with a crayon, but also copying = words,=20 numbers and symbols off the chalkboard or from a workbook onto = paper.  Many=20 of them continued to struggle with this task even as they went = from=20 grade level to grade level.  After going over my notes from = Monday's=20 lecture, it made we wonder if some of the students I worked with might = have had=20 apperceptive agnosia, where you can see an object, but cannot copy it or = perceive the shape.  Are people tested for this disorder by the = same=20 battery of tests?  I also wonder if apperceptive agnosia might be = related=20 to dyslexia in some way.  Dyslexia is a brain condition that = causes=20 difficulty in reading, spelling and language use.  The = two=20 disorders sound very = similar.     
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C7F71C.68AC5D60-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 07:06:30 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Yoshida Taihei) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:06:30 +0900 Subject: [Psych3120] Taihei Yoshida Message-ID: --_6e26f99e-cf24-4530-94a6-231dfbf79027_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After doing word superiority effect, I realized that I was trying to match up the "R," in stead of looking the word, and then find the "R." I think it likes to find a same figure with that. I guess it is happened, because I'm not a native speaker. Also, even though I had known all words, I was working that way unconsiously, and there weren't big different to find out the "R.". I just noticed it might be different way to do the word superiority effect from you do it. Therefore, I think the interactive activation modelis not always work for everyone, or it might be one of the culture differences. _________________________________________________________________ $B%(%j%C%/!&%/%i%W%H%sB>!"0lN.%.%?%j%9%H;22C$N;|A1%3%s%5!<%H$,L5NA$G8+J|Bj!*(B http://msninconcert.msn.com/music/Crossroads/ja-jp/artist.aspx --_6e26f99e-cf24-4530-94a6-231dfbf79027_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
After doing word superiority effect, I realized that I was trying to match up the "R," in stead of looking the word, and then find the "R."  I think it likes to find a same figure with that.  I guess it is happened, because I'm not a native speaker. Also, even though I had known all words, I was working that way unconsiously, and there weren't big different to find out the "R.". I just noticed it might be different way to do the word superiority effect from you do it.  Therefore, I think the interactive activation modelis not always work for everyone, or it might be one of the culture differences.


$B%(%j%C%/!&%/%i%W%H%sB>!"0lN.%.%?%j%9%H;22C$N;|A1%3%s%5!<%H$,L5NA$G8+J|Bj!*(B http://msninconcert.msn.com/music/Crossroads/ja-jp/artist.aspx --_6e26f99e-cf24-4530-94a6-231dfbf79027_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 07:10:07 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Response to the "ambiguous" question Message-ID: <72301.43730.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-1934584061-1189836607=:43730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In response to the ambigous picture posted that shows the indiviual looking down, turn your head to the right and READ the picture. You will notice the word "Liar written in cursive going down the side. Let me know if you are still unable to see it. David Dunn --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1934584061-1189836607=:43730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In response to the ambigous picture posted that shows the indiviual looking down, turn your head to the right and READ the picture.  You will notice the word "Liar written in cursive going down the side.  Let me know if you are still unable to see it.
 
David Dunn


Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1934584061-1189836607=:43730-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 19:51:39 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Sofia Rosalinda) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:51:39 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Ames Room Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C7F797.28C37910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was doing some additional research on the Ames Room, and I read that = that was how the makers of the Lord of the Rings movies did the scenes = with Gandalf and the hobbits to make the hobbits look smaller. So no = need for fancy computer tricks and messing around with blue screens! = pretty cool. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C7F797.28C37910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was doing some additional research on the Ames Room, and I read = that that=20 was how the makers of the Lord of the Rings movies did the scenes with = Gandalf=20 and the hobbits to make the hobbits look smaller. So no need for fancy = computer=20 tricks and messing around with blue screens! pretty = cool.
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C7F797.28C37910-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 15 19:27:12 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Gertsch) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] night vision Message-ID: <438061.7705.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-27851123-1189880832=:7705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit About five years ago my husband, my son and I were at an Army/Navy supply store. We let our son pick out one thing, whatever he wanted. He chose one of those flashlights that have different colored screens to put over the lens. At the time I had no idea why you would need different colored light, but on the way home we got a flat tire. We lived in the middle of nowhere; there weren't any streetlights and no moon light. So, that red lens ended up being very useful. I've also found that the blue lens helps in the fog as long as you direct the light slightly below the area you are trying to see. I still haven't found a use for the yellow or green screens but I keep one of those flashlights in my car at all times, just in case. Megan Gertsch --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. --0-27851123-1189880832=:7705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
About five years ago my husband, my son and I were at an Army/Navy supply store. We let our son pick out one thing, whatever he wanted. He chose one of those flashlights that have different colored screens to put over the lens. At the time I had no idea why you would need different colored light, but on the way home we got a flat tire. We lived in the middle of nowhere; there weren't any streetlights and no moon light. So, that red lens ended up being very useful. I've also found that the blue lens helps in the fog as long as you direct the light slightly below the area you are trying to see. I still haven't found a use for the yellow or green screens but I keep one of those flashlights in my car at all times, just in case.
 
Megan Gertsch


Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. --0-27851123-1189880832=:7705-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 17 06:07:20 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:07:20 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] Quintin Fidler: Global Dimming Message-ID: <8C9C6FFC2D4DA56-8FC-6E8B@webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8C9C6FFC2D4DA56_8FC_DE6C_webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was recently watching a program on PBS about global dimming. It seems that the sunlight that reaches the earth has dropped about 20% in the past 30 years. It is caused by the pollution in the atmosphere reflecting sunlight back into space. As I watched this I couldn't help wonder about some of the things that we discussed in class. I thought it was interesting that no one had noticed. You would think that we could perceive a 20% drop in sunlight, but I suppose that it occurred so slowly that we couldn't perceive it. Another thought that came to mind is what will happen to the design of our eyes if this trend continues (and we survive). Will our eyes increase the number of rods and cones to make up for this, or are they already adapted for such changes in sunlight. It would be interesting to see if anyone has been studying if there are any changes in the eyes of animals that have short life spans such as mice or rats. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9C6FFC2D4DA56_8FC_DE6C_webmail-da20.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I was recently watching a program on PBS about global dimming. It seems that the sunlight that reaches the earth has dropped about 20% in the past 30 years. It is caused by the pollution in the atmosphere reflecting sunlight back into space. As I watched this I couldn't help wonder about some of the things that we discussed in class. I thought it was interesting that no one had noticed. You would think that we could perceive a 20% drop in sunlight, but I suppose that it occurred so slowly that we couldn't perceive it. Another thought that came to mind is what will happen to the design of our eyes if this trend continues (and we survive). Will our eyes increase the number of rods and cones to make up for this, or are they already adapted for such changes in sunlight. It would be interesting to see if anyone has been studying if there are any changes in the eyes of animals that have short life spans such as mice or rats.

Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!
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Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Stroop Tasks Message-ID: --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone. =20 While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I rememb= ered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently released a= series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their lat= est handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous math and logic ba= sed exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, and = the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a few minutes every = day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is a valid= claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game displays the nam= e of a color in a different color font on the screen (example: the word "re= d" in blue font), and you are supposed to say the color into the DS's micro= phone. The game recognizes if you gave a correct or incorrect answer, and t= hen moves on to another word/color. It's actually a lot of fun, and after p= laying my friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted to buy a DS just so= I could play it. _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_mig= ration_HM_mini_5G_0907= --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone.
 
While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I r= emembered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently = released a series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the= DS, their latest handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous mat= h and logic based exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex = of your brain, and the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a= few minutes every day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or = not this is a valid claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Ta= sk. The game displays the name of a color in a different color font on the = screen (example: the word "red" in blue font), and you are supposed to say = the color into the DS's microphone. The game recognizes if you gave a = correct or incorrect answer, and then moves on to another word/color. It's = actually a lot of fun, and after playing my friend's copy of the game, I've= really wanted to buy a DS just so I could play it.


More pho= tos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99 Hotmail= =AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! = --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 17 21:04:35 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spenser Harris) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Stroop Tasks Message-ID: --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone. =20 While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I rememb= ered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently released a= series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their lat= est handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous math and logic ba= sed exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, and = the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a few minutes every = day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is a valid= claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game displays the nam= e of a color in a different color font on the screen (example: the word "re= d" in blue font), and you are supposed to say the color into the DS's micro= phone. The game recognizes if you gave a correct or incorrect answer, and t= hen moves on to another word/color. It's actually a lot of fun, and after p= laying my friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted to buy a DS just so= I could play it. _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_mig= ration_HM_mini_5G_0907= --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone.
 
While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I r= emembered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently = released a series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the= DS, their latest handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous mat= h and logic based exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex = of your brain, and the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a= few minutes every day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or = not this is a valid claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Ta= sk. The game displays the name of a color in a different color font on the = screen (example: the word "red" in blue font), and you are supposed to say = the color into the DS's microphone. The game recognizes if you gave a = correct or incorrect answer, and then moves on to another word/color. It's = actually a lot of fun, and after playing my friend's copy of the game, I've= really wanted to buy a DS just so I could play it.


More pho= tos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99 Hotmail= =AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! = --_45af9465-d033-4f9b-9759-1aa6127b6969_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 17 22:45:57 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Natalie Peatross Message-ID: <152896.73501.qm@web51503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-785662048-1190065557=:73501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a friend who is struggling in some of her classes. She is in an intense program and she thinks her studying skills are not what they should be. So she decided to record the lectures from her classes and then listen to them through headphones while she sleeps at night. She thought she could get more studying in if she listened while she slept. Now I know the brain is partially or parts of the brain are awake when we are sleeping but I thought this kind of thing would be useless. I remember seeing an infomercial about learning another language while sleeping. All someone had to do was pick a language and listen to it while they slept. My friend has just barely started to try this...but I am skeptical and I think it wont work. In the lecture today we were taught we still pick up messages we are not paying attention to...so does that mean my friend will pick up the stuff she is hearing when she is sleeping???? --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-785662048-1190065557=:73501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have a friend who is struggling in some of her classes.  She is in an intense program and she thinks her studying skills are not what they should be.  So she decided to record the lectures from her classes and then listen to them through headphones while she sleeps at night.  She thought she could get more studying in if she listened while she slept.  Now I know the brain is partially or parts of the brain are awake when we are sleeping but I thought this kind of thing would be useless.  I remember seeing an infomercial about learning another language while sleeping.  All someone had to do was pick a language and listen to it while they slept. My friend has just barely started to try this...but I am skeptical and I think it wont work.  In the lecture today we were taught we still pick up messages we are not paying attention to...so does that mean my friend will pick up the stuff she is hearing when she is sleeping????


Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-785662048-1190065557=:73501-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 00:10:18 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Thomas Blakemore) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:10:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Psych3120] Unconscious Processes Message-ID: <3577611.1190070618836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This relates back to a class that we had awhile ago, but I heard the other day (I think I was listening to NPR but I'm not sure) about people who were untrained in art trying to create a drawing of a city scape. The people, who never learned of horizon lines and vanishing points, drew pictures of odd looking buildings and streets. Though the people could tell that their picture didn't look right, they weren't sure what they had done wrong. These people knew of pictoral cues of depth, as they could tell something was wrong with their drawings, but they weren't consciously aware of them, since they failed to include such cues in their drawings. Their inability to reproduce these cues highlights the existence of unconsious processes in perception. It's interesting to think that we are able to process such cues, recognize a representation lacking these cues, yet be unaware of the cues themselves, as these people were. We are very unaware of the basic, everyday processes that enable us perceive and interact with the world. That is, unless someone enlightens us to their existence, in which case, you may see Einstein's face swirling. -Thomas Blakemore From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 19:48:40 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Priest) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:48:40 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Attention - Melissa Priest Message-ID: I had a little trouble yesterday in class shifting my attention without moving my eyes. Its a bit confusing as to how this change can occur within the same sensory modality (visual) without moving the eyes. My visual attentiveness may change from one object to another, but it seems I need to follow with my eyes unless I am relying on peripheral vision. Following the attention (or lack there of) exercies in class, I again questioned whether what I am seeing is really what is there. I wonder if attention follows the same rule of adaption as do sensory systems. That is the idea that receptors are sensitive to change and the magnitude of change as presented by some stimulus. Rapid onset of stimulus produces a greater response than does slow or gradual onset. If the stimulus continues to present itself, the receptors or response stops as a result of adaptation. For this reason we do not continue to feel the presence of our shoes on our feet all day long, as an example. Does attention follow a similar rule? When we are attentive to the same stimulus for an extended period of time, do we start to lose attention? What cognitive functions help keep us attentive for an extended period of time? Prefrontal cortex? but how? From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 20:49:21 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Attention Message-ID: <339528.1849.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This week's lecture on attention was interesting for me. I have actually read alot of material about attention, especially as it pertains to kids. While the 70's experiments focused much on auditory attention, noticing 'streams' of info in one versus the other ear, more modern research has shown that you cannot just test for attention with one perceptual filter. For instance, many people are visual learners, so an auditory test will not test 'attention' so much as just their ability to process auditory information. Alternatively, someone who is an auditory processor, such as a musician, may have excellent 'attention' if they are only tested through auditory channels. I have taken other tests that help to determine the processing style one is strongest and weakest, in. They divide the areas up into auditory, visual, and kinesthetic. What most people miss, is that kinesthetic processors have to 'pay attention' with their bodies. If they cannot act in the environment, they will miss many things that a visual person will not. For instance, the idea that 'paying attention' in a classroom means that your feet are on the floor, your eyes on the teacher, is actually a social construct of attention, not attention itself. From my own testing, I am a K/A/V processor, which means I pay attention first to my kinesthetic awareness, or body awareness, my auditory second, and my visual lastly. In a social psychology class, we did tests on 'paying attention' as a social construct of reality. (Like looking at a teacher to imply one is listening, when the eyes have nothing to do with what the ear is hearing) I think it is important to keep in mind that the idea of attention is multi-fold, and not something easily defined. I would love it if this class explores this further, but we may not have time to cover it. For everyone else, if you are going into child psychology, I find it worthwhile to understand that 'attention' is more than an easily defined concept. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 20:53:33 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:53:33 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Adaptive Distractability Message-ID: <8162db450709181253o477fd07al832d6c76af12f51c@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_22776_14456049.1190145213159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The different films that demonstrated various errors in attention where interesting to watch. I was surprised at my inability to detect differences in some of the changing pictures. I was however able to see the gorilla. I know that I am easily distracted when placed in situations where my attention is strained. For example when studying i wear ear plugs to decrease distractions. I wonder if my ability to be easily distracted may play an adaptive role in some of the attention tasks. For example the new figure(gorilla) that walks on screen may be distracting and novel, therefore attracting my attention. Bill Shelton ------=_Part_22776_14456049.1190145213159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The different films that demonstrated various errors in attention where interesting to watch.  I was surprised at my inability to detect differences in some of the changing pictures.  I was however able to see the gorilla.  I know that I am easily distracted when placed in situations where my attention is strained.  For example when studying i wear ear plugs to decrease distractions.  I wonder if my ability to be easily distracted may play an adaptive role in some of the attention tasks.  For example the new figure(gorilla) that walks on screen may be distracting and novel, therefore attracting my attention.


Bill Shelton
------=_Part_22776_14456049.1190145213159-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 21:00:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:00:42 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Selective Attention Message-ID: I found this unteresting study on selective attention and ADHD called "The Development of Selective Attention in Children With Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder: from the Journal of Abnormal Psychology. Although there are mixed results pertaining to children with ADHD and the presence of selective attention, it is an interesting study. Check it out! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 18 21:05:56 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:05:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] oops...forgot to add link to selective attention post Message-ID: Sorry...I forgot the link to the selective attention study. Here it is... http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0902.is_3_29/ai_76558496 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 19 16:53:50 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Rutledge) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Please help... Message-ID: <449889.71730.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1386171727-1190217230=:71730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was sick on Monday (9/17/07) and was not able to make it to class. I che= cked the class page and noticed that no notes were posted for Monday. Woul= d anyone please care to share a brief synopsis of what was covered during M= onday's lecture? Thank you.=0A =0AErin.=0A=0A=0A =0A________________= ____________________________________________________________________=0AMood= y friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Si= ms Stories at Yahoo! Games.=0Ahttp://sims.yahoo.com/ --0-1386171727-1190217230=:71730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was sick on Monday (9/17/07) and was not able to mak= e it to class.  I checked the class page and noticed that no notes wer= e posted for Monday.  Would anyone please care to share a brief synops= is of what was covered during Monday's lecture?  Thank you.
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I thought Natalie's post about her friend listening to lectures while sleeping was interesting, it reminded me of a story my physics TA told us last year about a student that would come to our early morning class and sleep through it.  The TA claimed that the person absorbed some information from the lecture even while she was asleep.  I didn't really believe this because I have a hard enough time remembering everything from lectures when I'm awake, let alone being asleep.  This might have just been a ploy to get us to wake up and go to class.

The other night I was reading a book for a class that wasn't particularly interesting, and eventually my mind wandered off and I started thinking about something completely different.  This happens to me all the time, and every time it happens I notice afterward that although I wasn't paying attention to the words, my eyes continued to move along the lines as though I was reading.  When I finally snap back to reality, I realize that I'm much farther along in the book than I was when first stopped paying attention to what I was reading.  Even though my eyes are skimming the words, I never really pick up any of the information and have to re-read the paragraphs. 

In both of these cases, I think that there might be some truth to the idea that we are aware of more than we think we are, but the real question is whether we actually commit any of this quasi-unconscious perception to memory.  I don't know for sure, but I think that even if our brains pick up words when we're sleeping or can recognize words on a page when we're thinking about something else, we won't necessarily be able to recall this information later.  It kind of reminds me of how when a person is asleep and dreaming, some outside noise can sometimes work it's way into their dream and be interpreted as something else, the person remaining unaware of what the noise really was.



Test your celebrity IQ.  Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 19 18:28:39 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:28:39 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Please help... In-Reply-To: <449889.71730.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The notes covered on Monday were actually printed off with the lecture from last wednesday. We talked about Selective attention and the limited capacity that our minds have to recieve information. Many things are blocked from our field of awareness. We keep the task relevant information (using factilitatory mechanisms) and tend to disregard the irrelevant information ( using inhibitory mechanisms) We talked about Broadbent's filter theory (there is a diagram in the notes) that talks about us having a filter and anything that doesn't make it through the filter from our perceptual channels is lost. There are problems with this theory because studies have shown that some "semanitc" material was still processed. He then gave the example of two different messages begin given in one ear (4 words in each) if any combination of the words fit a familiar phrase or meaning that had been previously processed they would give the phrase rather than the actual order of words. This is in opposition of Filter Theory. There are also incidences where we hear things like our names when we are not litening for it. This led into Triesman's Attenuation Theory whic htalked about a different amount of information coming from each of the perceptual channels. The most prevalent information comes in the largest amounts, but there is still information that comes thorugh that is not as relevant. He gave examples of Simon's Demonstrations in which we watched videos that showed how if things slowly and subtly change we don't notice, or that if we are paying attention to something like a conversation and there are flashes or a "gray field" in between scenes, we dont notice changes that are made in the scene, etc. We learned about the Stroop Task and how it is easy to detect colors, easier to detect colors when we are reading the name while seeing the color, but it is very difficult to name the color when reading a word that says a different color (this is hard to explain...sorry). Finally, we talked about space and objects. We tend to focus on objects and we organize things in the world into visual objects. Switching our attention from one object to another os more difficult. He also beirfly touched on covert and overt attention. COvert attention is when we fixate and slowly shift our attention over to something else but don't move our eyes (like some people do when cheating on a test). Overt attention in when our attention is completely tied to our eye movement. Sorry this was so long! Hope it helped! >From: Erin Rutledge >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Please help... >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:53:50 -0700 (PDT) > >I was sick on Monday (9/17/07) and was not able to make it to class. I >checked the class page and noticed that no notes were posted for Monday. >Would anyone please care to share a brief synopsis of what was covered >during Monday's lecture? Thank you. > >Erin. > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. >Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. >http://sims.yahoo.com/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 20 02:12:04 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Matt Hansen) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Attention Message-ID: <593210.84519.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In class we all watched a video of a Harvard Professor giving a student directions. I was pretty funny to see that the Professor had no idea that students were switched on him. It makes me wonder how oblivious I am to things around me, especially when I have food on my mind. I did notice the other day while walking to class that my mind noticed something and I really wasn't paying attention. I was focused on getting to class and thinking about the assignment due. My old friend Scott was walking in my peripheral and I really had no idea it was him. At the last second my brain said hey look to the left and before I understood why I said "hey Scott". It was really kind of strange. It was like my brain knew what was going on without telling me until the last second. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 20 17:17:16 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Charles Lincoln Allen) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:17:16 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Apperceptive Agnosia (Charles Lincoln Allen) Message-ID: <53B33451F353DC4784145300898D36CC701A65@CAMPUSV4.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FBA1.B5FA2664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking about the last lecture, and more specifically on the slide on apperceptive agnosia. When he showed us the slide where the person was asked to trace the letter "A" or the key and the person with apperceptive agnosia could not do it, what would happen if you asked the person just to draw a key and not trace it. Could they do it? Next, if they could do it and you asked them to trace what they had just drawn could they do that? Finally, it seems hard to believe that even with extensive help and work that a person with this problem could not recover. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FBA1.B5FA2664 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apperceptive Agnosia (Charles Lincoln Allen)

I was thinking about the last lecture, and more
specifically on the slide on apperceptive agnosia.
When he showed us the slide where the person was asked
to trace the letter "A" or the key and the person with
apperceptive agnosia could not do it, what would
happen if you asked the person just to draw a key and
not trace it. Could they do it? Next, if they could do
it and you asked them to trace what they had just
drawn could they do that? Finally, it seems hard to
believe that even with extensive help and work that a
person with this problem could not recover. 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FBA1.B5FA2664-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 20 22:09:28 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:09:28 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] STUDY GROUP??? Message-ID: I know there is a review prior to the test coming up, but I would like to put together a small study group as well to go over the study guide and help eachother with questions before the review. I'm thinking either Monday the 24th or Wednesday the 26th around 7 or 8 pm, or on Sunday the 30th some time in the evening. Is anyone interested in this? If so, what times are best? Feel free to suggest other times also!Thanks! Megan From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Sep 20 22:25:56 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Rutledge) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Thank you. Message-ID: <691102.35644.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-331350272-1190323556=:35644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took place on Monday. I h= ave experienced the Stroop test before so I knew what you were talking abou= t. Your email was very helpful. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ____________________= ________________________________________________________________=0ACatch up= on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and mo= re!=0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 --0-331350272-1190323556=:35644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took = place on Monday.  I have experienced the Stroop test before so I knew = what you were talking about.  Your email was very helpful. 
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I know that we have moved off the topic of color blind= ness but I was at the hair salon yesterday and a woman there had asked the = owner who an artist was of some paintings that were hanging on the wall.&nb= sp; These modern paintings are incredible with deep, rich, bold colors that= seem so live that at any moment the butterfly is going to flutter his wing= s and fly off into the sky.  The owner said that they were the work of= a local artist (I apologize but, I cannot remember his name) who is actual= ly monochromatic and completely color blind.  He is able to paint the = correct colors of things  because his wife has vividly described to hi= m what the color looks like so explicitly that he his able to imagine what = the color would look like in his mind and then he paints his paintings.  Of course, he has to read the paint jar every time he dip= s the paint brush in to make sure that he is using the right paint color.&n= bsp; But anyway, I was amazed with these incredible paintings and was very = impressed with his ability to express color so vividly when the world that = he sees is completely black and white.  

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I would not have noticed the difference unless, like they were in class, be= en brought to my attention. It is so funny how the human mind works and how= little things can even trick the brain.
When the video was shown with the gorilla, i could not believe it because I= had never seen it before and i was completely paying attention to the whit= e team and blocking out anything that was black, so when i saw it the secon= d time around, i was appauled that my eyes and mind would not have caught t= hat silly display!
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More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MOR= E with Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! = --_8c5b3efb-98be-40e1-b5dc-c953e5604f50_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 00:08:29 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Joseph Boyer) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] week 5 Message-ID: <373720.42740.qm@web56912.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1017958766-1190329709=:42740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just had another question about Monday's lecture. We watched that movie "The Conversation" where two women are talking about a surprise party (horrible acting). As the camera angles changed props in the movie would also change drastically. if that movie had been on mute would we have noticed the subtle changes more easily? --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. --0-1017958766-1190329709=:42740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I just had another question about Monday's lecture. We watched that movie "The Conversation" where two women are talking about a surprise party (horrible acting). As the camera angles changed props in the movie would also change drastically.
if that movie had been on mute would we have noticed the subtle changes more easily?


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Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. --0-1017958766-1190329709=:42740-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 16:17:38 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:17:38 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Thank you. In-Reply-To: <691102.35644.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: glad to help! >From: Erin Rutledge >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Thank you. >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) > >Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took place on Monday. I >have experienced the Stroop test before so I knew what you were talking >about. Your email was very helpful. > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get >listings, and more! >http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 17:02:49 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jennifer Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Talking on cell phones while driving! Message-ID: <894263.83969.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-736506384-1190390569=:83969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It seems that every other person on the road is talking on the cell phone while driving. While I am not a person who gets easily irritated, I do get annoyed with drivers on their phones when they are so wrapped up in conversation that they sit thru green trffic lights. (which happened two days ago). While I am one of those busy body people who likes to multi-task, over a year ago, I finally broke myself of the habit of talking on my cell phone while driving. I guess for most people driving has become so automatic that they think that there should be attention to spare while driving to talk on phone. Is the expertise of the driver a factor will cell phone related traffic accidents? Is using cell phones while driving is a greater risk for less experienced drivers? Perhaps, because they are more likely to glance away from the road (usually to dial) for long periods of time and at risky moments when attention to the road is crucial. There is no doubt that when talking on your cell phone, you are more apt to miss traffic signals and are much slower to react, even using a hands-free phone. Perhaps it is because you are imaging a context (with the person on the other end of the line) other than the context in which you are driving in? --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. --0-736506384-1190390569=:83969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
It seems that every other person on the road is talking on the cell phone while driving. While I am not a person who gets easily irritated, I do get annoyed with drivers on their phones when they are so wrapped up in conversation that they sit thru green trffic lights. (which happened two days ago). While I am one of those busy body people who likes to multi-task, over a year ago, I finally broke myself of the habit of talking on my cell phone while driving. I guess for most people driving  has become so automatic that they think that there should be attention to spare while driving to talk on phone. Is the expertise of the driver a factor will cell phone related traffic accidents? Is using cell phones while driving is a greater risk for less experienced drivers? Perhaps, because they are more likely to glance away from the road (usually to dial) for long periods of time and at risky moments when attention to the road is crucial. There is no doubt that when talking on your cell phone, you are more apt to miss traffic signals and are much slower to react, even using a hands-free phone. Perhaps it is because you are imaging a context (with the person on the other end of the line) other than the context in which you are driving in?


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Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. --0-736506384-1190390569=:83969-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 20:12:14 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Diana Alleman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:14 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] Diana Alleman Message-ID: Topic: Selective Attention I think of selective attention when I am talking to someone (really anyone). Is what they are saying to me interesting? or what selected information do I choose to pick up from the conversation? What is relevant and what is irrelevant? To me it could have been what they ate for lunch that day but to someone else it could be the political standing of the U.S government. We listeners decide what to pay attention to regardless of what really was significant to the person talking. Selective Attention is diverse to topics, people, and the situation. I find it intriguing how people are so different in their thought processes. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 20:59:23 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alissa Nielson) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:59:23 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Alissa Nielson Message-ID: <46F3C02C0200005300018D3A@gwmail1.kleinfelder.com> This happened to me last week and I wasn't sure if it really was an example of top-down processing so I didn't submit it; however, I can't think of anything else so I'm going to anyway. One very early morning, RIGHT after I woke up, I saw a bunch of white wispy things in one of my baskets. I was so confused and so tired so I couldn't figure out what it was even thought I was trying really hard. I had to actually think, 'Now what would be there in that place that those wispy things could be?' After thinking about it I realized it would have to be a blanket. Because blankets are what are in that basket. Once I realized it was a blanket I realized what blanket it was and what the wispy things were (they were the grass on my horsy blanket). It wasn't until I knew what those wispy things were attached to that I knew what they were. >>> 09/20/07 11:03 AM >>> Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Sep 21 21:33:38 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Danielle Cysewski) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:33:38 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Attention References: <200709211803.l8LI2YgR014700@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C7FC5C.66137350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In class we talked about how when confronted with emergency/potentially = dangerous stimuli, our attention automatically switches over to perceive = it. I experienced this the other day while driving - I was listening to = a morning radio talk show when a firetruck came by with its sirens = blaring. I was automatically focused on the firetruck instead of the = radio show, and after the truck had passed and traffic had resumed = movement, I realized that I had absolutely no idea what had gone on in = the talk show those few seconds when the firetruck was passing. I was a = bit surprised that I wasn't even able to pick up bits and pieces of it = since I hadn't turned my radio down. Danielle Cysewski ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C7FC5C.66137350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In class we talked about how when confronted with = emergency/potentially=20 dangerous stimuli, our attention automatically switches over to perceive = it. I=20 experienced this the other day while driving - I was listening to a = morning=20 radio talk show when a firetruck came by with its sirens blaring. I was=20 automatically focused on the firetruck instead of the radio show, and = after the=20 truck had passed and traffic had resumed movement, I realized that I had = absolutely no idea what had gone on in the talk show those few seconds = when the=20 firetruck was passing. I was a bit surprised that I wasn't even able to = pick up=20 bits and pieces of it since I hadn't turned my radio down.
Danielle Cysewski
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C7FC5C.66137350-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 22 15:25:45 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Dan Lauritzen) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:25:45 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] dual focus Message-ID: ------=_Part_43284_17918118.1190471145323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline While driving after work I was listening to the radio in my car and the car next to me had something completely different playing. While I could recognize certain aspects of the music in the other car, nothing more was very clear. Almost subconsciously I know what it was and switched my attention to tell for sure. At that moment I could detect the loss of comprehension of the music I was listening to. Not that any of this is amazing, it was just fun to really take a look at something we do probably everyday, but never really think about it. Divided attention is important and it is an amazing skill. Recently I have been reviewing studies which discuss the use of cell phones while driving. It is fascinating how the use of a cell phone can impair ability far more than conversing with a passanger. One study suggested that when we talk with others near by they give us nonverbal cues for the conversation. However while using a cell phone we have to make up for the cues that are missing, and thus focus more attention and energy to the cell phone conversation. Interesting... Dan Lauritzen ------=_Part_43284_17918118.1190471145323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
While driving after work I was listening to the radio in my car and the car next to me had something completely different playing.  While I could recognize certain aspects of the music in the other car, nothing more was very clear.  Almost subconsciously I know what it was and switched my attention to tell for sure.  At that moment I could detect the loss of comprehension of the music I was listening to.  Not that any of this is amazing, it was just fun to really take a look at something we do probably everyday, but never really think about it. 
 
Divided attention is important and it is an amazing skill.  Recently I have been reviewing studies which discuss the use of cell phones while driving.  It is fascinating how the use of a cell phone can impair ability far more than conversing with a passanger.  One study suggested that when we talk with others near by they give us nonverbal cues for the conversation.  However while using a cell phone we have to make up for the cues that are missing, and thus focus more attention and energy to the cell phone conversation.  Interesting...

Dan Lauritzen
 
------=_Part_43284_17918118.1190471145323-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 22 17:11:18 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Yoshida Taihei) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:11:18 +0900 Subject: [Psych3120] conversation video Message-ID: --_f18656eb-e6c3-41c8-8bfc-e9de90aa6f4f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know someone wondered about this video, if there are no sound, can we notice the change? Since I'm not native I couldn't understand their conversation about 40%.... However, I could find only a few. therefore, I guess the conversation is not the only the factor we couldn't find the change. However, I know the truth if we are talking on the cell phone when we are driving, our attention decreases. Also, the eye movement to see the everything decreases, too. So, If we talk with someone, we might loss to find the change. _________________________________________________________________ $B%"%k%U%!%m%a%*%9%Q%$%@!<(B2.2$B$,Ev$?$k(BHotmail$B%f!<%6!<8BDj$N%-%c%s%Z!<%s
I know someone wondered about this video, if there are no sound, can we notice the change?
Since I'm not native I couldn't understand their conversation about 40%.... However, I could find only a few. therefore, I guess the conversation is not the only the factor we couldn't find the change.

However, I know the truth if we are talking on the cell phone when we are driving, our attention decreases.  Also, the eye movement to see the everything decreases, too.  So, If we talk with someone, we might loss to find the change.


$B%"%k%U%!%m%a%*%9%Q%$%@!<(B2.2$B$,Ev$?$k(BHotmail$B%f!<%6!<8BDj$N%-%c%s%Z!<%shttps://campaign.live.jp/hotmail/ --_f18656eb-e6c3-41c8-8bfc-e9de90aa6f4f_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Sep 22 23:52:04 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (erica smith) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:52:04 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: --_de676d2b-72e3-4f1d-9827-d8187c1b2a83_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reading comments on selective attention makes me wonder how connected it is= to classical conditioning. If anyone has seen the office where Jim will s= hut his computer off so it will make the "shutting off" noise, and then off= er Dwight an altoid. After a while, Dwight would automatically stick his ha= nd out for an altoid when he heard the sound without consciously thinking a= bout his actions. So even though we selectively pay attention to specific = things, our mind are conditioned to respond to other outside stimuli, like = when we hear our name. It just makes me wonder exactly how much we let slip= through without being aware of it and how it could affect our actions. erica smith _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo=AE 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It=92s ou= r way of saying thanks for using Windows Live=99. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=3DSeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2= --_de676d2b-72e3-4f1d-9827-d8187c1b2a83_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reading comments on selective attention makes me wonder how connected it is= to classical conditioning.  If anyone has seen the office where Jim w= ill shut his computer off so it will make the "shutting off" noise, and the= n offer Dwight an altoid. After a while, Dwight would automatically stick h= is hand out for an altoid when he heard the sound without consciously think= ing about his actions.  So even though we selectively pay attention to= specific things, our mind are conditioned to respond to other outside stim= uli, like when we hear our name. It just makes me wonder exactly how much w= e let slip through without being aware of it and how it could affect our ac= tions.

erica smith


Gear up for Halo=AE 3 and get a $2= 5 Best Buy gift card. It=92s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Liv= e=99. Get it now! = --_de676d2b-72e3-4f1d-9827-d8187c1b2a83_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 00:42:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Gertsch) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] selective attention Message-ID: <384977.46989.qm@web56110.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-500210245-1190504562=:46989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Of all the topics we've discussed in this class thus far, selective attention is the most interesting to me. I've been thinking a lot about the cell phone use while driving studies. This morning I was driving down I-15 and it seemed like half of the people on the road were on the phone. Who knows how focused on the road any of them really were, but most seemed to be driving just fine. However, there was one lady that didn't seem to be paying much attention to her driving. She kept slowing down to about 50 mph. When I would pass her she'd speed back up and pass me going at least 80 mph and then gradually slow down again. So, anyway I was thinking that some people are obviously better at driving while talking on the phone than others, but why? Are they just better multi-taskers in general? Are they more experienced drivers? Maybe it has something to do with the type of conversations they are having or who they are talking to? I also wonder if there is any correlation between better and worse cell phone driving and the number of previous car accidents and traffic tickets, I would assume so. I'm not questioning whether talking on the phone while driving can be distracting or whether it is dangerous in general. I'm just generally interested in individual differences. So, if there are significant differences between different individuals ability to perform this type of multi-tasking, what exactly are they and what causes them? Megan Gertsch --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --0-500210245-1190504562=:46989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Of all the topics we've discussed in this class thus far, selective attention is the most interesting to me. I've been thinking a lot about the cell phone use while driving studies. This morning I was driving down I-15 and it seemed like half of the people on the road were on the phone. Who knows how focused on the road any of them really were, but most seemed to be driving just fine. However, there was one lady that didn't seem to be paying much attention to her driving. She kept slowing down to about 50 mph. When I would pass her she'd speed back up and pass me going at least 80 mph and then gradually slow down again. So, anyway I was thinking that some people are obviously better at driving while talking on the phone than others, but why? Are they just better multi-taskers in general? Are they more experienced drivers? Maybe it has something to do with the type of conversations they are having or who they are talking to? I also wonder if there is any correlation between better and worse cell phone driving and the number of previous car accidents and traffic tickets, I would assume so. I'm not questioning whether talking on the phone while driving can be distracting or whether it is dangerous in general. I'm just generally interested in individual differences. So, if there are significant differences between different individuals ability to perform this type of multi-tasking, what exactly are they and what causes them?
 
Megan Gertsch
 


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Doing the Stroop test on Monday made me realize how ingrained our minds are with with our language. We could easily tell the colors when they were just 'x's appearing. It was even easier to recognoize the color when the name of the color appeared in that color. Example the word "Blue" in blue ink. But in the third trial when words appear in a different color then what the color was, our brains went crazy! We were use to colors appering with the same ink as the word, that we were reading the words instead of looking at the color of the ink. If those words were in German we could have done a better job naming the colors because the words had no meanings to us. I just love that example because I can never do it right on the thrid trail.
-Kandis Beverley
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 02:01:54 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Stark) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:01:54 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FD7D.55253D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have been thinking quite a bit about the idea of selective = attention. I have found myself many times doing things that are routine = without ever really noticing I'm doing them because I'm paying attention = to something else. The scary thing to admit is that this even happens = sometimes when I am driving. I work as a dance teacher and have driven = the same route to work for 10 years so I know it pretty well. While I am = on my way there, I often listen to the music I will be using in class = and think about what I plan to teach. This is where my attention goes = sometimes and I find that I have driven all the way to work without = really noticing how I got there. And then I realize I should have been = paying more attention to my driving. Especially in light of what we've = learned about selective attention and how concentrating on one task can = lead you to completely miss seeing something that is right in front of = you, like a gorilla or perhaps a car on the road..... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FD7D.55253D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
I also have been = thinking quite a bit about the idea of selective attention. I have found = myself many times doing things that are routine without ever really = noticing I'm doing them because I'm paying attention to something else. = The scary thing to admit is that this even happens sometimes when I am = driving. I work as a dance teacher and have driven the same route to = work for 10 years so I know it pretty well. While I am on my way there, = I often listen to the music I will be using in class and think about = what I plan to teach. This is where my attention goes sometimes and I = find that I have driven all the way to work without really noticing how = I got there. And then I realize I should have been paying more attention = to my driving. Especially in light of what we've learned about selective = attention and how concentrating on one task can lead you to completely = miss seeing something that is right in front of you, like a gorilla or = perhaps a car on the road.....
------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FD7D.55253D20-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 08:50:03 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (horii chieko) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:50:03 +0900 Subject: [Psych3120] selective attention Message-ID: --_09f723c2-009c-4ba1-ae3f-4dcbd3ae4bfb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since we learned our selctive mechanism which is based on priority we decide at the time we perceive something, I feel I sometimes had such situation as same as others for car. While I was driving a car, attention deficit often occured when I was absorbed in talking with friends or changing CD from its case then I finally found I was so close to car on the next line and avoided it. Even though I got to used to drive as it was like one of the automatic actions in life, I somehow was out of the truck as a result of focusing on a point and inattention of others. Speaking of attention, when I heard the Triesman's Attenuation Theory, I though of some of my personal examples. Whennever I eat out at a restaurant or cafe, I usuallly tend to listen chat of others sitting near my table so that I have some point I do not listen well but I still can recognize what people in my group is talking about briefly. It seems it is just the difference of level of perception as it was noted on the lecture. At the time we watched some video clip as an examples of Simon's Demonstration, I had hard time of finding what was changed in a scene in passing a basketball with a gollila and changing scenes. After I figured them out that it is better not to focus on one point but keeping a good watch over the whole scene, it was easy to catch the change so that I felt how easily we missed and get information at the same time. $BLrN)$D%^%C%W$,B3!9EP>l!*3$$,8+$($k%l%9%H%i%s!"L~$7$N%Q%o!<%9%]%C%H!"%O%o%$B>(B http://chizumaga.jp/ _________________________________________________________________ $BFf$NET;TEA@b$rDI$(!*%[%i!<%`!<%S!
Since we learned our selctive mechanism which is based on priority we decide at the time we perceive something, I feel I sometimes had such situation as same as others for car. While I was driving a car, attention deficit often occured when I was absorbed in talking with friends or changing CD from its case then I finally found I was so close to car on the next line and avoided it. Even though I got to used to drive as it was like one of the automatic actions in life, I somehow was out of the truck as a result of focusing on a point and inattention of others.
Speaking of attention, when I heard the Triesman's Attenuation Theory, I though of some of my personal examples. Whennever I eat out at a restaurant or cafe, I usuallly tend to listen chat of others sitting near my table so that I have some point I do not listen well but I still can recognize what people in my group is talking about briefly. It seems it is just the difference of level of perception as it was noted on the lecture.
At the time we watched some video clip as an examples of Simon's Demonstration, I had hard time of finding what was changed in a scene in passing a basketball with a gollila and changing scenes. After I figured them out that it is better not to focus on one point but keeping a good watch over the whole scene, it was easy to catch the change so that I felt how easily we missed and get information at the same time.    


$BLrN)$D%^%C%W$,B3!9EP>l!*3$$,8+$($k%l%9%H%i%s!"L~$7$N%Q%o!<%9%]%C%H!"%O%o%$B>(B http://chizumaga.jp/


$BFf$NET;TEA@b$rDI$(!*%[%i!<%`!<%S!http://campaign.live.jp/hotmail_densen-uta/ --_09f723c2-009c-4ba1-ae3f-4dcbd3ae4bfb_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 22:32:34 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JAMES C HINCKLE) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:32:34 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Broadbent's Filter Theory Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C7FDF6.F67CBAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In last Monday's lecture, we discussed Broadbent's Filter Theory which = says that everything is filtered out of unattended messages except gross = physical features like the sound of a male or female voice. That can be = distinguished. Further studies showed that some semantic (language) = information is processed by the brain. For instance, when we hear our = own name being spoken in a conversation or over a loud speaker, it will = catch our attention and we will be able to hear our name being spoken. = When this was being discussed in class, I was got concerned because I = have a difficult time responding when my name is being broadcast over a = PA system, etc. There have been several instances where I have been in = a public place (e.g. airport, department store, sporting event), my name = has been spoken and I've totally missed it. Luckily, my husband and/or = my kids have been with me and THEY were able to hear it and alert me. = It always bothered me that I wasn't able to pick up on that. However, = while reading Chapter 4 in our textbook, I realized that our unattended = stimuli is being processed to some degree, but it also makes a = difference how LOUD the unattended message is that will make us divert = our attention to the source. Maybe I didn't hear my name being spoken = over a PA system because there was no emphasis on it or it wasn't spoken = loud enough to catch my attention. The textbook says that if your name = is simply spoken, you might not hear it because it doesn't 'stand out' = from what else is being said. So for me, maybe it's not that I'm not = paying attention, but instead, I am so focused on the task at hand = visually that I am filtering out and ignoring the auditory cues. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C7FDF6.F67CBAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In last Monday's lecture, we discussed Broadbent's Filter Theory = which says=20 that everything is filtered out of unattended messages except gross = physical=20 features like the sound of a male or female voice.  That can be=20 distinguished.  Further studies showed that some semantic = (language)=20 information is processed by the brain.  For instance, when we = hear our=20 own name being spoken in a conversation or over a loud speaker, it = will=20 catch our attention and we will be able to hear our name being=20 spoken.  When this was being discussed in class, I = was got=20 concerned because I have a difficult time responding when my name is = being=20 broadcast over a PA system, etc.  There have been several=20 instances where I have been in a public place (e.g. airport, = department=20 store, sporting event), my name has been spoken and I've totally missed=20 it.  Luckily, my husband and/or my kids have been with me = and THEY=20 were able to hear it and alert me.  It always bothered me = that I=20 wasn't able to pick up on that.  However, while reading = Chapter 4=20 in our textbook, I realized that our unattended stimuli is being=20 processed to some degree, but it also makes a difference how LOUD = the=20 unattended message is that will make us divert our attention = to the=20 source.  Maybe I didn't hear my name being spoken over a PA = system=20 because there was no emphasis on it or it wasn't spoken loud enough to = catch my=20 attention.  The textbook says that if your name is simply spoken, = you might=20 not hear it because it doesn't 'stand out' from what else is being=20 said.  So for me, maybe it's not that I'm not paying attention, but = instead, I am so focused on the task at hand visually that I=20 am filtering out and ignoring the auditory=20 cues.    
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C7FDF6.F67CBAA0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 22:35:21 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spencer Weston) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:35:21 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Night Vision Cont. References: <200709191931.l8JJVKUb017801@topo.csbs.utah.edu> <51A7FD635262AB41A83F05F6B2AEA7B511E2A6@LP-EXCHVS03.CO.IHC.COM> Message-ID: <51A7FD635262AB41A83F05F6B2AEA7B511E2AB@LP-EXCHVS03.CO.IHC.COM> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.B53735A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 It was interesting to learn about the overlap of red/green cones but the = difference in blue cones. Adding to this knowledge is the uniqueness of = sensitivity to light by rods and cones. I can't help but think of the = thought put into developing night vision systems for the military and = how most night vision goggles run with light enhancement that is = projected to the user in the green spectrum. By chance? I think not. = Most likely it is done so that if the goggles had to be removed, the = rods would be able to immediately perform in the low light condition. = Very impressive and good to know that they are on "our side". Semper = Fi! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.B53735A8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Night Vision Cont.


It was interesting to learn about the overlap of red/green cones but the = difference in blue cones.  Adding to this knowledge is the = uniqueness of sensitivity to light by rods and cones.  I  = can't help but think of the thought put into developing night vision = systems for the military and how most night vision goggles run with = light enhancement that is projected to the user in the green = spectrum.  By chance?  I think not.  Most likely it is = done so that if the goggles had to be removed, the rods would be able to = immediately perform in the low light condition.  Very impressive = and good to know that they are on "our side".  Semper = Fi!

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.B53735A8-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Sep 23 22:36:31 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spencer Weston) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:36:31 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Early development Message-ID: <51A7FD635262AB41A83F05F6B2AEA7B511E2AC@LP-EXCHVS03.CO.IHC.COM> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.CE9343B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently watched a documentary on the National Geographic Channel = debating Nature vs. Nuture. In the discussion was a case study of a = girl who grew to two years in a home where her parents never talked to = her. The outcome of such action resulted in the inability of the girl = to speak despite numerous attempts to educate her. From such a study it = was determined that during child development, critical connections are = made in the brain while others are disconnected. This seemed to show = that young brains are both extremely vulnerable as well as malleable in = such a way that the old phrase =93use it or loose it=94 may be true! DO = you think it is nature, nurture, or specific combinations of both? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.CE9343B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Early development

I recently watched a documentary on the National = Geographic Channel debating Nature vs. Nuture.  In the discussion = was a case study of a girl who grew to two years in a home where her = parents never talked to her.  The outcome of such action resulted = in the inability of the girl to speak despite numerous attempts to = educate her.  From such a study it was determined that during child = development, critical connections are made in the brain while others are = disconnected.  This seemed to show that young brains are both = extremely vulnerable as well as malleable in such a way that the old = phrase “use it or loose it” may be true!  DO you think it = is nature, nurture, or specific combinations of both?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FE29.CE9343B0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 06:55:37 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:55:37 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] Judd Tingey - RE: Early development Message-ID: <8C9CC86AA347506-B7C-7524@FWM-D01.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8C9CC86AA347506_B7C_EC18_FWM-D01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think in the case study of the girl that you mentioned, most of her problems with the inability to learn stem from the 'nature' aspect.? I didn't see the documentary, but you mentioned something about the brain either making connections or losing them, thus it appears as though her brain formed and finalized in the state that she was left in.? I would also be curious to know if the girl was incapable of learning language at all.? She may have been mute, but did she eventually develop the ability to understand language?? On the 'nurture' side of the coin, I don't understand why her parents would not talk to her.? It sounds like she was most likely abused for some reason or another, so there may be other factors that would cause her developmnetal problems.?I am reminded of Harlow's research with the rhesis monkeys.? When they had no love or connection with a mother for the first six months of life, they were incapable of?learning it later in life.? It seems as though the brain is malleable, but it's like wet cement; you can move it, shape it, form it however you want, but once it settles, that is how it will stay. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9CC86AA347506_B7C_EC18_FWM-D01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I think in the case study of the girl that you mentioned, most of her problems with the inability to learn stem from the 'nature' aspect.  I didn't see the documentary, but you mentioned something about the brain either making connections or losing them, thus it appears as though her brain formed and finalized in the state that she was left in.  I would also be curious to know if the girl was incapable of learning language at all.  She may have been mute, but did she eventually develop the ability to understand language?  On the 'nurture' side of the coin, I don't understand why her parents would not talk to her.  It sounds like she was most likely abused for some reason or another, so there may be other factors that would cause her developmnetal problems. I am reminded of Harlow's research with the rhesis monkeys.  When they had no love or connection with a mother for the first six months of life, they were incapable of learning it later in life.  It seems as though the brain is malleable, but it's like wet cement; you can move it, shape it, form it however you want, but once it settles, that is how it will stay.

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----------MB_8C9CC86AA347506_B7C_EC18_FWM-D01.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 17:51:06 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Todd Aylesworth) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:51:06 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] selective attention Message-ID: ------=_Part_16066_2613210.1190652666624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline this might be a little too much information but here goes. my brother Troy has a bad case of selective attention. whenever we are having a conversation in a public place his eyes wander off and forgets that he is in a conversation. whatever in his eyes sight is moving the most, that is where his mind goes to. if he was in a our class looking at the chimney picture, he would have pick up on it disappearing every time. hes does pay attention when there are few distractions around him. I think paying attention to your surrounding's is a good thing. but when you can't turn your attention to one thing it is difficult to communicate. ------=_Part_16066_2613210.1190652666624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline this might be a little too much information but here goes. my brother Troy has a bad case of selective attention.  whenever we are having a conversation in a public place his eyes wander off and forgets that he is in a conversation.  whatever in his eyes sight is moving the most, that is where his mind goes to.  if he was in a our class looking at the chimney picture, he would have pick up on it disappearing every time.   hes does pay attention when there are few distractions  around him. I think paying attention to your surrounding's is a good thing. but when you can't turn your attention to one thing it is difficult to communicate.
------=_Part_16066_2613210.1190652666624-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 17:57:33 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Todd Aylesworth) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:57:33 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] stroop tasks Message-ID: ------=_Part_16110_25954604.1190653053757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was recently apart of a study that had stroop task involved in it. it was very similar to what we did in class. except the task i did in the study was a lot more involved. i had to connect numbers together and letters, like 1,2,3,4,5 then a,b,c,d,e. then I had to connect them alternating numbers and letters like 1,a,2,b,3,c,4,d etc. I was timed as well. then the color of a word and the word itself being a color. again as fast as i could and with accuracy . it was hard thatn I thought. when I saw it in class I felt ;like i was better than I was in the study at figuring out which to say, the color or then name of the color. ------=_Part_16110_25954604.1190653053757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was recently apart of a study that had stroop task involved in it. it was very similar to what we did in class. except the task i did in the study was a lot more involved.  i had to connect numbers together and letters, like 1,2,3,4,5 then a,b,c,d,e.  then I had to connect them alternating numbers and letters like 1,a,2,b,3,c,4,d etc. I was timed as well.  then  the color  of a word and the word itself  being a color.  again as fast as i could and  with accuracy .  it was hard thatn I thought. when I saw it in class I felt ;like i was better than I was in the study at figuring out which to say, the color or then name of the color.
------=_Part_16110_25954604.1190653053757-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 18:05:43 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:05:43 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] heidi williams: selective attention Message-ID: <8C9CCE446EFFC86-AD8-3DF8@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8C9CCE446EFFC86_AD8_7D6B_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My brother is the master of selective attention.? Someone can be talking to him and if he isn't interested what they're saying, then he can completely "zone out" and he won't be able to recall what was said at all.? He gets a glazed look on his face and starts think about cars.? I on the other hand can't do that at all.?? It? would come in? handy? in a boring class or if some annoying person was trying to irritate me.? But alas, I don't have to ability to do that.? So, to explain this in a way that will actually earn me points... In broadbent's filter theory my brother's? attentional filter is so efficient that none of the perceptual channels seem to get through and therefore the only thing that goes to his central processing channel is? cars because that is what is brain deemed important.? I don't think that he picks up anything important inadvertently in the unattended message(entire lecture) like in the dichotic listening study because his brain didn't pick up anything relevant.?? Now I call that talent. (not that I would ever do that myself. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9CCE446EFFC86_AD8_7D6B_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" My brother is the master of selective attention.  Someone can be talking to him and if he isn't interested what they're saying, then he can completely "zone out" and he won't be able to recall what was said at all.  He gets a glazed look on his face and starts think about cars.  I on the other hand can't do that at all.   It  would come in  handy  in a boring class or if some annoying person was trying to irritate me.  But alas, I don't have to ability to do that.  So, to explain this in a way that will actually earn me points... In broadbent's filter theory my brother's  attentional filter is so efficient that none of the perceptual channels seem to get through and therefore the only thing that goes to his central processing channel is  cars because that is what is brain deemed important.  I don't think that he picks up anything important inadvertently in the unattended message(entire lecture) like in the dichotic listening study because his brain didn't pick up anything relevant.   Now I call that talent. (not that I would ever do that myself.

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----------MB_8C9CCE446EFFC86_AD8_7D6B_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 18:24:51 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] heidi williams: dreams Message-ID: <8C9CCE6F352DBE2-AD8-3F6D@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> ----------MB_8C9CCE6F352DBE2_AD8_8070_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm responding to alyssa's post in the last part where she discussed dreams.? I've had the same experience.? One time I was watching a show.? Nothing particularly emotion provoking happened.? That night I had a nightmare about the what happened in the show and it was really scary.? I didn't even think about the show for the rest of the day and wasn't thinking about it when I went to bed but obviously some part of my brain deemed it relevant? in some way.? Relevant enough to conjure up a dream for me to toss and turn over.?? So, even though I don't? find something relevant when I'm actively thinking about something my subconscious? has a different set of criteria for relevance. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9CCE6F352DBE2_AD8_8070_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I'm responding to alyssa's post in the last part where she discussed dreams.  I've had the same experience.  One time I was watching a show.  Nothing particularly emotion provoking happened.  That night I had a nightmare about the what happened in the show and it was really scary.  I didn't even think about the show for the rest of the day and wasn't thinking about it when I went to bed but obviously some part of my brain deemed it relevant  in some way.  Relevant enough to conjure up a dream for me to toss and turn over.   So, even though I don't  find something relevant when I'm actively thinking about something my subconscious  has a different set of criteria for relevance.

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----------MB_8C9CCE6F352DBE2_AD8_8070_webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 18:37:26 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spencer Weston) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:37:26 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Night Vision cont. Message-ID: <51A7FD635262AB41A83F05F6B2AEA7B511E2AE@LP-EXCHVS03.CO.IHC.COM> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FED1.C0A33810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was interesting to learn about the overlap of red/green cones but the = difference in blue cones. Adding to this knowledge is the uniqueness of = sensitivity to light by rods and cones. I can't help but think of the = thought put into developing night vision systems for the military and = how most night vision goggles run with light enhancement that is = projected to the user in the green spectrum. By chance? I think not. = Most likely it is done so that if the goggles had to be removed, the = rods would be able to immediately perform in the low light condition. = Very impressive and good to know that they are on "our side". Semper = Fi! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FED1.C0A33810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Night Vision cont.

It was interesting to learn about the overlap of = red/green cones but the difference in blue cones.  Adding to this = knowledge is the uniqueness of sensitivity to light by rods and = cones.  I  can't help but think of the thought put into = developing night vision systems for the military and how most night = vision goggles run with light enhancement that is projected to the user = in the green spectrum.  By chance?  I think not.  Most = likely it is done so that if the goggles had to be removed, the rods = would be able to immediately perform in the low light condition.  = Very impressive and good to know that they are on "our = side".  Semper Fi!


------_=_NextPart_001_01C7FED1.C0A33810-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 19:08:16 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda Lindsey) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:08:16 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1047 - 7 msgs In-Reply-To: <200709211803.l8LI2YgR014700@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709211803.l8LI2YgR014700@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_de2d2e0e-9a3b-4740-9238-2518ab900217_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In response to last Monday's lecture, I was so incredibly shocked when we w= ere watching the different video clips. Just like a lot of people, I was = completely oblivious to the different changes or interruptions. Many peopl= e in class had already seen the video clip with the gorilla walking through= the basketball tossing, but i hadn't. When I was told to watch it again, = and saw how completely obvious it was that he walked through the middle of = the game, i felt so ridiculous. It was almost embarrassing because of how = obvious it was. Also, when we saw the clip about the items on the table c= hanging from scene to scene, I did not notice one change through the entire= clip. Examples like these two, and I'm sure there are many others, caused= me to think about how many things in life i probably miss out on. Perhaps= it might be a good thing at times, but it completely amazes me to think ab= out Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:02:34 -0600 From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1047 - 7 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." =20 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: meg_meg84@msn.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:09:28 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] STUDY GROUP??? I know there is a review prior to the test coming up, but I would like to=20 put together a small study group as well to go over the study guide and hel= p=20 eachother with questions before the review. I'm thinking either Monday the= =20 24th or Wednesday the 26th around 7 or 8 pm, or on Sunday the 30th some tim= e=20 in the evening. Is anyone interested in this? If so, what times are best?=20 Feel free to suggest other times also!Thanks! =20 Megan =20 =20 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:25:56 -0700 From: erinlrutledge@yahoo.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Thank you. Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took place on Monday. I h= ave experienced the Stroop test before so I knew what you were talking abou= t. Your email was very helpful. =20 Got a little couch potato?=20 Check out fun summer activities for kids.--Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:21:35 -0700 From: erinlrutledge@yahoo.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Incredible I know that we have moved off the topic of color blindness but I was at the= hair salon yesterday and a woman there had asked the owner who an artist w= as of some paintings that were hanging on the wall. These modern paintings= are incredible with deep, rich, bold colors that seem so live that at any = moment the butterfly is going to flutter his wings and fly off into the sky= . The owner said that they were the work of a local artist (I apologize bu= t, I cannot remember his name) who is actually monochromatic and completely= color blind. He is able to paint the correct colors of things because hi= s wife has vividly described to him what the color looks like so explicitly= that he his able to imagine what the color would look like in his mind and= then he paints his paintings. Of course, he has to read the paint jar every time he dips the= paint brush in to make sure that he is using the right paint color. But a= nyway, I was amazed with these incredible paintings and was very impressed = with his ability to express color so vividly when the world that he sees is= completely black and white. =20 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone = who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.=20 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: o.sunset@hotmail.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:11:58 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Lecture on Monday I really enjoyed the lecture on Monday and thought it was really interestin= g how these things that we are learning are so real when put into our own p= erspective. When watching the videos, It made me wonder if I have ever had= a moment like the professor did, where I was completely oblivious to what = was going on and just focused in on what I wanted to focus in on. It also = made me wonder if film makers ever put in silly things in movies to see if = people catch the "switches" that have been made. IE: hair, clothes, placing= of objects, etc. I know I have seen movies where when they switch scenes,= something is different and I would not have noticed it unless someone wer= e to bring it to my attention. I would not have noticed the difference unless, like they were in class, be= en brought to my attention. It is so funny how the human mind works and how= little things can even trick the brain. When the video was shown with the gorilla, i could not believe it because I= had never seen it before and i was completely paying attention to the whit= e team and blocking out anything that was black, so when i saw it the secon= d time around, i was appauled that my eyes and mind would not have caught t= hat silly display!=20 Melissa Davenport o.sunset@hotmail.com =20 More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:08:29 -0700 From: joeboyer31@yahoo.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] week 5 I just had another question about Monday's lecture. We watched that movie "= The Conversation" where two women are talking about a surprise party (horri= ble acting). As the camera angles changed props in the movie would also cha= nge drastically. if that movie had been on mute would we have noticed the= subtle changes more easily? =20 Luggage? GPS? Comic books?=20 Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.--Forwarded Message Att= achment-- From: meg_meg84@msn.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Thank you. Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:17:38 -0600 glad to help! =20 =20 >From: Erin Rutledge >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] Thank you. >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) > >Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took place on Monday. I= =20 >have experienced the Stroop test before so I knew what you were talking=20 >about. Your email was very helpful. > > > > > =20 >__________________________________________________________________________= __________ >Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get=20 >listings, and more! >http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 =20 =20 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:02:49 -0700 From: jksmith742003@yahoo.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Talking on cell phones while driving! It seems that every other person on the road is talking on the cell phone w= hile driving. While I am not a person who gets easily irritated, I do get a= nnoyed with drivers on their phones when they are so wrapped up in conversa= tion that they sit thru green trffic lights. (which happened two days ago).= While I am one of those busy body people who likes to multi-task, over a y= ear ago, I finally broke myself of the habit of talking on my cell phone wh= ile driving. I guess for most people driving has become so automatic that = they think that there should be attention to spare while driving to talk on= phone. Is the expertise of the driver a factor will cell phone related tra= ffic accidents? Is using cell phones while driving is a greater risk for le= ss experienced drivers? Perhaps, because they are more likely to glance awa= y from the road (usually to dial) for long periods of time and at risky mome= nts when attention to the road is crucial. There is no doubt that when talk= ing on your cell phone, you are more apt to miss traffic signals and are mu= ch slower to react, even using a hands-free phone. Perhaps it is because yo= u are imaging a context (with the person on the other end of the line) othe= r than the context in which you are driving in? =20 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone = who knows. Yahoo! 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In response to last Monday's lecture, I was so incredibly shocked when = we were watching the different video clips.  Just like a lot of people= ,  I was completely oblivious to the different changes or interruption= s.  Many people in class had already seen the video clip with the gori= lla walking through the basketball tossing, but i hadn't.  When I was = told to watch it again, and saw how completely obvious it was that he walke= d through the middle of the game, i felt so ridiculous.  It was almost= embarrassing because of how obvious it was.  Also, when we saw the c= lip about the items on the table changing from scene to scene, I did not no= tice one change through the entire clip.  Examples like these two, and= I'm sure there are many others, caused me to think about how many things i= n life i probably miss out on.  Perhaps it might be a good thing at ti= mes, but it completely amazes me to think about
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To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.eduDate: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:09:28 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] STUDY GROUP= ???

I know there is a review prior to the test coming up, but I=
 would like to 
put together a small study group as well to go over the = study guide and help
eachother with questions before the review. I'm th= inking either Monday the
24th or Wednesday the 26th around 7 or 8 pm, o= r on Sunday the 30th some time
in the evening. Is anyone interested in = this? If so, what times are best?
Feel free to suggest other times also= !Thanks!

Megan


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To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [P= sych3120] Thank you.

Thank you Megan for giving me the = update of what took place on Monday.  I have experienced the Stroop te= st before so I knew what you were talking about.  Your email was very = helpful. 


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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:21:35 -0700
From: erin= lrutledge@yahoo.com
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych= 3120] Incredible

I know that we have moved off the topi= c of color blindness but I was at the hair salon yesterday and a woman ther= e had asked the owner who an artist was of some paintings that were hanging= on the wall.  These modern paintings are incredible with deep, rich, = bold colors that seem so live that at any moment the butterfly is going to = flutter his wings and fly off into the sky.  The owner said that they = were the work of a local artist (I apologize but, I cannot remember his nam= e) who is actually monochromatic and completely color blind.  He is ab= le to paint the correct colors of things  because his wife has vividly= described to him what the color looks like so explicitly that he his able = to imagine what the color would look like in his mind and then he paints hi= s
paintings.  Of course, he has to read the paint jar every time h= e dips the paint brush in to make sure that he is using the right paint col= or.  But anyway, I was amazed with these incredible paintings and was = very impressed with his ability to express color so vividly when the world = that he sees is completely black and white.  


Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationshi= p answers from someone who knows.
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I really enjoyed the lecture on Monday and thought it was really = interesting how these things that we are learning are so real when put into= our own perspective.  When watching the videos, It made me wonder if = I have ever had a moment like the professor did, where I was completely obl= ivious to what was going on and just focused in on what I wanted to focus i= n on.  It also made me wonder if film makers ever put in silly things = in movies to see if people catch the "switches" that have been made. IE: ha= ir, clothes, placing of objects, etc.  I know I have seen movies = where when they switch scenes, something is different and  I would not= have noticed it unless someone were to bring it to my attention.

I = would not have noticed the difference unless, like they were in class, been= brought to my attention. It is so funny how the human mind works and how l= ittle things can even trick the brain.

When the video was shown with= the gorilla, i could not believe it because I had never seen it before and= i was completely paying attention to the white team and blocking out anyth= ing that was black, so when i saw it the second time around, i was appauled= that my eyes and mind would not have caught that silly display!

Me= lissa Davenport

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Subject: [Psych3120] week 5

I just had another qu= estion about Monday's lecture. We watched that movie "The Conversation" whe= re two women are talking about a surprise party (horrible acting). As the c= amera angles changed props in the movie would also change drastically.
if that movie had been on mute would we have noticed the subtle ch= anges more easily?



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glad to help!


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>Thank you Megan for giving me the update of what took pl= ace on Monday. I
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= --_de2d2e0e-9a3b-4740-9238-2518ab900217_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 19:21:22 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Amanda Lindsey) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1044 - 4 msgs In-Reply-To: <200709181817.l8IIH3Em001917@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200709181817.l8IIH3Em001917@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_0509df79-e2bf-4e4d-9a7e-a6c825e6de67_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I work at Challenger Elementary School and I was helping out in a Kindergar= ten class the other day. While I was in this class, We turned out the ligh= ts and told the young kids to pretend that they lived on a planet where the= sun never shined. After, we had the kids draw a picture of what they thou= ght a person who could survive on a planet without daylight would look like= . This was very interesting to me, because I interested in seeing the pict= ures that their imaginations could think of. After they were finished, we = turned the lights back on, and we had each child show their picture and exp= lain it. It amazed me to see the fact that not one single picture looked l= ike anyone else's. They were all so very different it shocked me. Their s= mall little brains were capable of thinking of details that I would have ne= ver imagined. It almost made me feel as if they were smarter than I was in= this situation. It also made me sad to think about how little of imaginat= ion I have now that I am so much older than when I was their age. =20 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:17:03 -0600 From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1044 - 4 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu =20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." =20 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: banzaiduck506@hotmail.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Stroop Tasks To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone. =20 While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I rememb= ered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently released a= series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their lat= est handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous math and logic ba= sed exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, and = the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a few minutes every = day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is a valid= claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game displays the nam= e of a color in a different color font on the screen (example: the word "re= d" in blue font), and you are supposed to say the color into the DS's micro= phone. The game recognizes if you gave a correct or incorrect answer, and t= hen moves on to another word/color. It's actually a lot of fun, and after p= laying my friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted to buy a DS just so= I could play it. More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: banzaiduck506@hotmail.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Stroop Tasks To David Dunn, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perf= ectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused = when your eyes are missing a certain type of cone. =20 While particpating in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I rememb= ered that I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently released a= series of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their lat= est handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous math and logic ba= sed exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, and = the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a few minutes every = day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is a valid= claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game displays the nam= e of a color in a different color font on the screen (example: the word "re= d" in blue font), and you are supposed to say the color into the DS's micro= phone. The game recognizes if you gave a correct or incorrect answer, and t= hen moves on to another word/color. It's actually a lot of fun, and after p= laying my friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted to buy a DS just so= I could play it. More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99= Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! --Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:45:57 -0700 From: snortstd@yahoo.com To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Natalie Peatross I have a friend who is struggling in some of her classes. She is in an int= ense program and she thinks her studying skills are not what they should be= . So she decided to record the lectures from her classes and then listen t= o them through headphones while she sleeps at night. She thought she could= get more studying in if she listened while she slept. Now I know the brai= n is partially or parts of the brain are awake when we are sleeping but I t= hought this kind of thing would be useless. I remember seeing an infomerci= al about learning another language while sleeping. All someone had to do w= as pick a language and listen to it while they slept. My friend has just ba= rely started to try this...but I am skeptical and I think it wont work. In= the lecture today we were taught we still pick up messages we are not payi= ng attention to...so does that mean my friend will pick up the stuff she is= hearing when she is sleeping????=20 Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!=20 Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Gam= es.--Forwarded Message Attachment-- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:10:18 -0600 From: tmblakemoreslc@earthlink.net To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Unconscious Processes This relates back to a class that we had awhile ago, but I heard the other = day (I think I was listening to NPR but I'm not sure) about people who were= untrained in art trying to create a drawing of a city scape. The people, = who never learned of horizon lines and vanishing points, drew pictures of o= dd looking buildings and streets. Though the people could tell that their = picture didn't look right, they weren't sure what they had done wrong. The= se people knew of pictoral cues of depth, as they could tell something was = wrong with their drawings, but they weren't consciously aware of them, sinc= e they failed to include such cues in their drawings. Their inability to reproduce these cues highlights the existence of unconsi= ous processes in perception. It's interesting to think that we are able to= process such cues, recognize a representation lacking these cues, yet be u= naware of the cues themselves, as these people were. We are very unaware o= f the basic, everyday processes that enable us perceive and interact with t= he world. That is, unless someone enlightens us to their existence, in whi= ch case, you may see Einstein's face swirling. =20 -Thomas Blakemore =20 =20 =20 --_0509df79-e2bf-4e4d-9a7e-a6c825e6de67_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I work at Challenger Elementary School and I was helping out in a Kinde= rgarten class the other day.  While I was in this class, We turned out= the lights and told the young kids to pretend that they lived on a planet = where the sun never shined.  After, we had the kids draw a picture of = what they thought a person who could survive on a planet without daylight w= ould look like.  This was very interesting to me, because I interested= in seeing the pictures that their imaginations could think of.  After= they were finished, we turned the lights back on, and we had each child sh= ow their picture and explain it.  It amazed me to see the fact that no= t one single picture looked like anyone else's.  They were all so very= different it shocked me.  Their small little brains were capable of t= hinking of details that I would have never imagined.  It almost made m= e feel as if they were smarter than I was in this situation.  It also = made me sad to think about how little of imagination I have now that I am s= o much older than when I was their age. 
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Subject: [Psych3120] Stro= op Tasks






To David Dunn, thank you for answering = my question. I can see the word perfectly. And to Erica Smith, yes, that is= correct. Color blindness is caused when your eyes are missing a certain ty= pe of cone.

 

While particpating in the Stroop Task= in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I remembered that I've seen it before in= a video game. Nintendo recently released a series of video games called Br= ain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their latest handheld gaming system. = The game consists of numerous math and logic based exercises which make you=  use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, and the game's creators boa= st that doing the exercises for a few minutes every day will "sharpen your = IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is a valid claim)." One= of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game displays the name of a color = in a different color font on the screen (example: the word "red" in blue fo= nt), and you are supposed to say the color into the DS's microphone. The ga= me recognizes if you gave a correct or incorrect answer, and then move= s on to another word/color. It's actually a lot of fun, and after playing m= y friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted to buy a DS just so I could= play it.


More photos; more messages; more whatever =96 Get MORE= with Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage.
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0600Subject: [Psych3120] Stroop Tasks






To David Dun= n, thank you for answering my question. I can see the word perfectly. And t= o Erica Smith, yes, that is correct. Color blindness is caused when your ey= es are missing a certain type of cone.

 

While particpat= ing in the Stroop Task in class on Monday, Sep. 12, I remembered that = I've seen it before in a video game. Nintendo recently released a seri= es of video games called Brain Age & Brain Age 2 for the DS, their late= st handheld gaming system. The game consists of numerous math and logic bas= ed exercises which make you use the pre-frontal cortex of your brain, = and the game's creators boast that doing the exercises for a few minutes ev= ery day will "sharpen your IQ (I'm curious as to whether or not this is&nbs= p;a valid claim)." One of the exercises was a Stroop Task. The game di= splays the name of a color in a different color font on the screen (example= : the word "red" in blue font), and you are supposed to say the color into = the DS's microphone. The game recognizes if you gave a correct or inco= rrect answer, and then moves on to another word/color. It's actually a lot = of fun, and after playing my friend's copy of the game, I've really wanted = to buy a DS just so I could play it.


More photos; more messages;= more whatever =96 Get MORE with Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB s= torage. Get more!
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Date: Mon= , 17 Sep 2007 14:45:57 -0700
From: snortstd@yahoo.com
To: psych3120@l= ists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Natalie Peatross

I h= ave a friend who is struggling in some of her classes.  She is in an i= ntense program and she thinks her studying skills are not what they sh= ould be.  So she decided to record the lectures from her classes and t= hen listen to them through headphones while she sleeps at night.  She = thought she could get more studying in if she listened while she slept.&nbs= p; Now I know the brain is partially or parts of the brain are awake when w= e are sleeping but I thought this kind of thing would be useless.  I r= emember seeing an infomercial about learning another language while sleepin= g.  All someone had to do was pick a language and listen to it while t= hey slept. My friend has just barely started to try this...but I am skeptic= al and I think it wont work.  In the lecture today we were taught we s= till pick up messages we are not paying attention to...so does that mean my= friend will pick up the stuff she is hearing when she is
sleeping????<= /div>





Boardwalk for $500? In 2007?= Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now = (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:10:18 -0600<= br>From: tmblakemoreslc@earthlink.net
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<= br>Subject: [Psych3120] Unconscious Processes

This relates back=
 to a class that we had awhile ago, but I heard the other day (I think I wa=
s listening to NPR but I'm not sure) about people who were untrained in art=
 trying to create a drawing of a city scape.  The people, who never learned=
 of horizon lines and vanishing points, drew pictures of odd looking buildi=
ngs and streets.  Though the people could tell that their picture didn't lo=
ok right, they weren't sure what they had done wrong.  These people knew of=
 pictoral cues of depth, as they could tell something was wrong with their =
drawings, but they weren't consciously aware of them, since they failed to =
include such cues in their drawings.
Their inability to reproduce these = cues highlights the existence of unconsious processes in perception. It's = interesting to think that we are able to process such cues, recognize a rep= resentation lacking these cues, yet be unaware of the cues themselves, as t= hese people were. We are very unaware of the basic, everyday processes tha= t enable us perceive and interact with the world. That is, unless someone = enlightens us to their existence, in which case, you may see Einstein's fac= e swirling.

-Thomas Blakemore



= --_0509df79-e2bf-4e4d-9a7e-a6c825e6de67_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 23:05:46 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Melissa Davenport) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:05:46 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Cell Phones! Message-ID: --_cc83734f-8359-4965-b9e9-d7c4f5dfd8bb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will never look at cell phones and driving the same again! As I left class and drove to work, I watched people that drove by me to see= how many people were really driving and talking or texting at the same tim= e. It was really scary to look at how many people are really driving around= us each day with most of their attention on a phone conversation they are = having. I wish that everyone were aware of these statistics and were more c= onsiderate when using a cell phone and engaging in a conversation. I know t= hat I am definately guilty of doing this very thing, but after hearing that= talking on your phone is more dangerous than being drunk at the wheel, i w= ill think twice when pulling out my phone while driving.=20 A statistic I would like to see would be the number of crashes back in the = 1970's when cell phones were not a common luxury compared to the number of = crashes today. Has car accidents gone up since then? And if so, I would ass= ume that it would be related to cellular phone usage while driving. If ther= e is a statistic like this that someone knows about, i am interested in see= ing it. So just send it my way! o.sunset@hotmail.com . I am going make the= people around me aware of this dangerous reality that seems so harmless. _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo=AE 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It=92s ou= r way of saying thanks for using Windows Live=99. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=3DSeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2= --_cc83734f-8359-4965-b9e9-d7c4f5dfd8bb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will never look at cell phones and driving the same again!
As I left class and drove to work, I watched people that drove by me to see= how many people were really driving and talking or texting at the same tim= e. It was really scary to look at how many people are really driving around= us each day with most of their attention on a phone conversation they are = having. I wish that everyone were aware of these statistics and were more c= onsiderate when using a cell phone and engaging in a conversation. I know t= hat I am definately guilty of doing this very thing, but after hearing that= talking on your phone is more dangerous than being drunk at the wheel, i w= ill think twice when pulling out my phone while driving.
A statistic I would like to see would be the number of crashes back in the = 1970's when cell phones were not a common luxury compared to the number of&= nbsp;crashes today. Has car accidents gone up since then? And if so, I woul= d assume that it would be related to cellular phone usage while driving. If= there is a statistic like this that someone knows about, i am interested i= n seeing it. So just send it my way! o.sunset@hotmail.com .  I am goin= g make the people around me aware of this dangerous reality that seems so h= armless.


Gear up for Halo=AE 3 and get a $25 Best Buy gift c= ard. It=92s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live=99. = Get it now! = --_cc83734f-8359-4965-b9e9-d7c4f5dfd8bb_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 22:12:10 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Spenser Harris) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:12:10 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Resource Models and Divided Attention Message-ID: --_61cdfff0-598a-4356-beb1-307963677e07_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During the lecture today, Monday, September 24th, Dr. Strayer said somethin= g that reminded me of a personal annecdote. When he was telling us about th= e Resource Model (the chart that shows how the brain divides attention to m= ultiple stimuli), he mentioned that if you're having a conversation with so= meone while driving and the other person mentions an intriguing bit of goss= ip, you could shift to pay more attention to what your friend just told you= and not pay enough attention to driving. The exact same thing happened to = me. I was driving with my friend, she told me something rather shocking, an= d I slammed on the brakes, bringing us to a stop. I didn't pulled over, I d= idn't even check behind me to make sure I could stop safely; my attention w= as totally fixed on what she had said. Luckily, we were on an empty residen= tial street, so we didn't get in an accident, but I still felt pretty fooli= sh. After that, I made a point of paying better attention to driving if I'm= driving with other people. _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM&loc=3Dus= --_61cdfff0-598a-4356-beb1-307963677e07_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During the lecture today, Monday, September 24th, Dr. Strayer said somethin= g that reminded me of a personal annecdote. When he was telling us about th= e Resource Model (the chart that shows how the brain divides attention to m= ultiple stimuli), he mentioned that if you're having a conversation with so= meone while driving and the other person mentions an intriguing bit of goss= ip, you could shift to pay more attention to what your friend just told you= and not pay enough attention to driving. The exact same thing happened to = me. I was driving with my friend, she told me something rather shocking, an= d I slammed on the brakes, bringing us to a stop. I didn't pulled over, I d= idn't even check behind me to make sure I could stop safely; my attention w= as totally fixed on what she had said. Luckily, we were on an empty residen= tial street, so we didn't get in an accident, but I still felt pretty fooli= sh. After that, I made a point of paying better attention to driving if I'm= driving with other people.


Make your little one a shining s= tar! Shine on! = --_61cdfff0-598a-4356-beb1-307963677e07_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 23:34:39 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:34:39 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] heidi williams: selective attention In-Reply-To: <8C9CCE446EFFC86-AD8-3DF8@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I do this once in a while when I'm watching TV. My entire family will literally be yelling for my attention and I do not hear a word. Someone has to come stand right in front of me to get my attention. It's not that I am purposely ignoring them, but i do not hear them. It's the funniest thing. Apparantly my central processing channel at times chooses only to filter through Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy. Good shows, but how sad. >From: frogedamillion@aol.com >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] heidi williams: selective attention >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:05:43 -0400 > >My brother is the master of selective attention.? Someone can be talking to >him and if he isn't interested what they're saying, then he can completely >"zone out" and he won't be able to recall what was said at all.? He gets a >glazed look on his face and starts think about cars.? I on the other hand >can't do that at all.?? It? would come in? handy? in a boring class or if >some annoying person was trying to irritate me.? But alas, I don't have to >ability to do that.? So, to explain this in a way that will actually earn >me points... In broadbent's filter theory my brother's? attentional filter >is so efficient that none of the perceptual channels seem to get through >and therefore the only thing that goes to his central processing channel >is? cars because that is what is brain deemed important.? I don't think >that he picks up anything important inadvertently in the unattended >message(entire lecture) like in the dichotic listening study because his >brain didn't pick up anything re! > levant.?? Now I call that talent. (not that I would ever do that myself. > >________________________________________________________________________ >Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - >http://mail.aol.com From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 23:39:44 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:39:44 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Resource Models and Divided Attention In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This was a very in teresting lecture. I can't even count how many times I've found myself in another lane after sending a text or in the middle of a conversation on the phone or with a friend in the car (yes this is a confession). Anyways, I had no idea distractions like this could be as bad as driving drunk. After this lecture I am so terrified to even look at my phone while I'm driving. I usually will call a friend right after class to chat on my way to work, and I couldn't do it today. Not only was the lecture interesting, but it was beneficial as well. I will defnitely start paying better attention! >From: Spenser Harris >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: Cognitive Psych Message Board >Subject: [Psych3120] Resource Models and Divided Attention >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:12:10 -0600 > > >During the lecture today, Monday, September 24th, Dr. Strayer said >something that reminded me of a personal annecdote. When he was telling us >about the Resource Model (the chart that shows how the brain divides >attention to multiple stimuli), he mentioned that if you're having a >conversation with someone while driving and the other person mentions an >intriguing bit of gossip, you could shift to pay more attention to what >your friend just told you and not pay enough attention to driving. The >exact same thing happened to me. I was driving with my friend, she told me >something rather shocking, and I slammed on the brakes, bringing us to a >stop. I didn't pulled over, I didn't even check behind me to make sure I >could stop safely; my attention was totally fixed on what she had said. >Luckily, we were on an empty residential street, so we didn't get in an >accident, but I still felt pretty foolish. After that, I made a point of >paying better attention to driving if I'm driving with other people. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Capture your memories in an online journal! >http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Sep 24 23:45:30 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:45:30 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Last call for a study group! Message-ID: I'm making a last attempt to put together a study group before our review on Monday. I'm thinking maybe Saturday, or whenver else anyone is available, because only one person responded to the other days suggested (Today, Wednesday, and Sunday). If anyone is interested please let me know what day and time would work for you. I think this would be really helpful! Thanks! Megan From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 25 00:43:42 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kandis Beverley) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:43:42 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Driving Message-ID:
    After talking about driving and talking on the phone at the same time today I was very interested in what driving takes. Most of the time it just comes natural to us, we have done it so many times that we don't really think about. Today while driving home from work, I payed very strict attention to what I had to do to accomplish the task of driving. It takes vision, to see the world and what is happening. It takes movemet to steer the wheel and tap on the brake. It take reflex to dodge a car in traffic. It take quick decisions to deside if you are going to go through the yellow light or stop quickly. It takes being able to judge distance, for examplle how far away from another car you are. It take all this things happening at the same time. Driving is like a conversation, complex. Remembering things, like what to tell your husband to buy from the store or what exit to get off at. They are both quick to change, talking about old boyfriend turns into a fight, or the open lane now have a car in your bind spot. The two activitys are too much alike to do at once. So don't drive and talk at the same time!
-Kandis Beverley
From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 25 00:58:36 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Natalie Peatmoss) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Natalie Peatross Message-ID: <694515.90632.qm@web51511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-1475777961-1190678316=:90632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The topic about human error and human beings involvement with technology and their world reminds me of the story of the Torrey Canyon disaster. It was one of the largest oil spills in the world. It was in 1965 I think and it was off the coast of the Sicily Isles. There were lots of reasons for the disaster but one of the main reasons was because there was a lever for control, manual and automatic or the autopilot all in the same spot. When the captain realized he was off course he took the supertanker off autopilot and instead of putting it into manual he put it into control...which disconnects the helm from the rudder. The captain attempted to turn the ship but to no avail. When he realized what he had done..it was too late and he crashed into the seven stones and it sliced the ship open. 31 million gallons of oil spilled into the ocean...all because the captain was distracted and put the lever in the wrong spot. I am sure there are many disasters which have occurred due to lack of attention or rushed decisions. Just like we learned today that driving and talking on the phone impairs our judgment and increases our chances for accidents. --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. --0-1475777961-1190678316=:90632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The topic about human error and human beings involvement with technology and their world reminds me of the story of the Torrey Canyon disaster. It was one of the largest oil spills in the world. It was in 1965 I think and it was off the coast of the Sicily Isles. There were lots of reasons for the disaster but one of the main reasons was because there was a lever for control, manual and automatic or the autopilot all in the same spot.  When the captain realized he was off course he took the supertanker off autopilot and instead of putting it into manual he put it into control...which disconnects the helm from the rudder.  The captain attempted to turn the ship but to no avail.  When he realized what he had done..it was too late and he crashed into the seven stones and it sliced the ship open.  31 million gallons of oil spilled into the ocean...all because the captain was distracted and put the lever in the wrong spot.  I am sure there are many disasters which have occurred due to lack of attention or rushed decisions.  Just like we learned today that driving and talking on the phone impairs our judgment and increases our chances for accidents.


Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. --0-1475777961-1190678316=:90632-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 25 19:43:43 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Andrea Kalvesmaki) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] re: Attention and study group In-Reply-To: <200709251805.l8PI5Jk1012303@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <72068.36703.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Like many of you who posted, I also have been hyper aware of driving with cell phones. I used to work for a cell phone company, and we always encouraged people to get a hands-free, mostly for the sales! I drove using my cell phone less when I worked for the company than I do now. Being in lecture and hearing the data was interesting, and it gave me more to think about. The big one that gets me is the amount of people who TEXT while driving! To text, you have to look at the cell, hold it in your hands, and type, and I know of teens who do this while on the freeway! How crazy is that? It is wild to me to think that driving while using a cell phone is more impairing than driving under the influence. What will it take to educate people as to this? and, a note about the study group... It is hard for me to schedule a time to meet as I work full time, have school full time, and volunteer as well. (yes, that is true!) I like the idea of posting on this discussion board our ideas of how to answer questions for the study guide, and our own questions. If we each put something down and share it with each other, it might even be more effective than a study group (that attention thing, you know!). Just an idea... From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 25 19:52:21 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Megan Larsen) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:52:21 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] re: Attention and study group In-Reply-To: <72068.36703.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That is a good idea. I would like to do a "study group" on the discussion board as well. >From: Andrea Kalvesmaki >Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >Subject: [Psych3120] re: Attention and study group >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) > >Like many of you who posted, I also have been hyper >aware of driving with cell phones. I used to work for >a cell phone company, and we always encouraged people >to get a hands-free, mostly for the sales! I drove >using my cell phone less when I worked for the company >than I do now. Being in lecture and hearing the data >was interesting, and it gave me more to think about. >The big one that gets me is the amount of people who >TEXT while driving! To text, you have to look at the >cell, hold it in your hands, and type, and I know of >teens who do this while on the freeway! How crazy is >that? >It is wild to me to think that driving while using a >cell phone is more impairing than driving under the >influence. What will it take to educate people as to >this? > >and, a note about the study group... >It is hard for me to schedule a time to meet as I work >full time, have school full time, and volunteer as >well. (yes, that is true!) >I like the idea of posting on this discussion board >our ideas of how to answer questions for the study >guide, and our own questions. If we each put something >down and share it with each other, it might even be >more effective than a study group (that attention >thing, you know!). Just an idea... > > >_______________________________________________ >Psych3120 mailing list >Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu >http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Sep 25 22:58:21 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (william sheltowt) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:58:21 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Cell phones and driving Message-ID: <8162db450709251458t21c96405s50e8494393214911@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_3581_26586229.1190757502364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Even with the additional information I think that it is difficult for me to break my bad habits of talking while on my cell phone. The video clip of the car crashing and taking out the pedestrian was quite graphic. My thoughts on the difference between talking on a cell phone and having a pasenger that you are talking to, are that when you have a passenger they often share the duty of looking for obstacles in the road. They also help you by socially pressuring you to remain focused on the road, because you have their life in your hand as well. If you held these thing constant would it effect the results of the study. for example if there was a person with you in the car while you were driving and talking on the cell phone would there be as big of an effect? in some of these studies I think that they need to work on taking account of third variables. Bill Shelton ------=_Part_3581_26586229.1190757502364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Even with the additional information I think that it is difficult for me to break my bad habits of talking while on my cell phone. The video clip of the car crashing and taking out the pedestrian was quite graphic.  My thoughts on the difference between talking on a cell phone and having  a pasenger that you are talking to, are that when you have a passenger they often share the duty of looking for obstacles in the road.  They also help you by socially pressuring you to remain focused on the road, because you have their life in your hand as well.  If you held these thing constant would it effect the results of the study.  for example if there was a person with you in the car while you were driving and talking on the cell phone would there be as big of an effect?  in some of these studies I think that they need to work on taking account of third variables.
 
Bill Shelton
------=_Part_3581_26586229.1190757502364-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 26 04:00:37 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (David Dunn) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] driving and cell phone statistics Message-ID: <20327.2599.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-110403720-1190775637=:2599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit With the increase of drivers on the road as well as the increase of cell phones comes the increase for accidents to occur. Combining those two variables is a scary thought for those of us who spend an extended amount of time driving. Some of the statistics that I found to be quite alarming are as follows: 1) 10 times more likely to run stop signs when on cell phone 2) What people remember having seen while driving (single task) vs. driving while on cell phone (dual task) is 2 to 1. 3) When measuring how well people stay in their own lanes, people on cell phones more than doubled those that weren’t in crossing over their lane. 4) Reaction time was much slower for people on cell phones than those that were intoxicated. 5) In the driving simulator, intoxicated drivers had 0 rear end collisions while cell phone users had 3. These are just a few of the findings that were discussed in class, but they constitute enough to cause fear. David Dunn --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. --0-110403720-1190775637=:2599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
With the increase of drivers on the road as well as the increase of cell phones comes the increase for accidents to occur.  Combining those two variables is a scary thought for those of us who spend an extended amount of time driving.
 
Some of the statistics that I found to be quite alarming are as follows:
1)      10 times more likely to run stop signs when on cell phone
2)      What people remember having seen while driving (single task) vs. driving while on cell phone (dual task) is 2 to 1.
3)      When measuring how well people stay in their own lanes, people on cell phones more than doubled those that weren’t in crossing over their lane.
4)      Reaction time was much slower for people on cell phones than those that were intoxicated.
5)      In the driving simulator, intoxicated drivers had 0 rear end collisions while cell phone users had 3.
 
These are just a few of the findings that were discussed in class, but they constitute enough to cause fear.
 
David Dunn


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One of the arguments that often come up about cell phones and driving is that it's not any different than having a conversation with a passenger. In the driving simulator videos that we saw in class it was apparent that the passenger was free to help and it was asked if any studies had been done where the passenger was told that they couldn't help, but I think that misses the point. While driving the passenger is in the same "boat" (or car in this case) as the driver. That is to say that the passenger has a vested interest in your driving. Obviously if you crash so does the passenger. So not only does the passenger assist with directions but will also notify you if the traffic light is red. In tense driving situations the conversation between the driver and passenger will naturally stop. This isn't nessesarily true on a cell phone. The point is that having a conversation with a passenger is much different than having a conversation on a cell phone.

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----------MB_8C9CE0C6F3F273F_C9C_115A4_mblk-r27.sysops.aol.com-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 26 07:10:31 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Camille Elise Buffenmeyer) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:10:31 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Set Phasers On Stun Message-ID: <8D0B9A86CFFA8A4AB3DAD5FD05114B481005B6@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80004.5F484061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was a rather interesting story I thought, and it really makes me = glad that the last time I was in a hospital was when I was born. Even = with all the technology we have developed nothing is error-proof. = Mistakes happen, and will continue to happen. I think that sometimes = people expect too much from technology and get too frustrated when = errors occur. Much technology is still so new that we can't expect = perfection. =20 On a psychology note Ray Cox went through what I can only think is = excruciating pain. I cannot imagine the likes of that because I've = never even broken a bone. What I admire the most is his attitude at the = end, when he was close to his death. I am amazed that he maintained the = ability to make a joke (on a side note, I absolutely love Star Trek and = am probably one of few who knows what the quote was from) even when his = life was cost by this machine error. =20 I admire so much people that have positive attitudes. Psychologically = speaking, Martin Seligman did some amazing research on Learned Optimism = that I think everyone should look into. The effects of positivity are = quite profound. Even though Ray's death occurred only a few short = months after the incidence I am willing to bet that he had a better = quality of life during those last few months because of his ability to = make jokes and seem overall quite positive. =20 The power of positive thinking to me demonstrates the important link = between mind and body that is undeniable. I urge everyone to pick up = Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman and read it. Perhaps it will = encourage you to think more positive. I know that a positive person is = almost always a joy to be around. =20 Through the tragedy of Ray Cox perhaps something good can grow. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80004.5F484061 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
This was a rather = interesting story I thought, and it really makes me glad that the last = time I was in a hospital was when I was born.  Even with all the = technology we have developed nothing is error-proof.  Mistakes = happen, and will continue to happen.  I think that sometimes people = expect too much from technology and get too frustrated when errors = occur.  Much technology is still so new that we can't expect = perfection.
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On a psychology note Ray Cox went = through what I can only think is excruciating pain.  I cannot = imagine the likes of that because I've never even broken a bone.  = What I admire the most is his attitude at the end, when he was close to = his death.  I am amazed that he maintained the ability to make a = joke (on a side note, I absolutely love Star Trek and am probably one of = few who knows what the quote was from) even when his life was cost by = this machine error.
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I admire so much people that have = positive attitudes.  Psychologically speaking, Martin Seligman did = some amazing research on Learned Optimism that I think everyone should = look into.  The effects of positivity are quite profound.  = Even though Ray's death occurred only a few short months after the = incidence I am willing to bet that he had a better quality of life = during those last few months because of his ability to make jokes and = seem overall quite positive.
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The power of positive thinking to me = demonstrates the important link between mind and body that is = undeniable.  I urge everyone to pick up Learned Optimism by Martin = Seligman and read it.  Perhaps it will encourage you to think more = positive.  I know that a positive person is almost always a joy to = be around.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C80004.5F484061-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 26 07:30:13 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Camille Elise Buffenmeyer) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:30:13 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Daniel Simons' Demonstrations Message-ID: <8D0B9A86CFFA8A4AB3DAD5FD05114B481005B7@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80006.B204F242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Selective attention is something I find fascinating and so useful, but I = think it is often not realized how useful selective attention can be. = If I did not have the ability to focus in on one thing I do not know how = I could get anything done, ever. I've noticed that my mind works so = much better if I have something in the background to specifically tune = out. For example, I need either TV or music on when I do homework = because my mind seems to wander less if it is already working with = selective attention to tune out the music of TV while I spend the rest = of my time focusing on the HW. =20 I think Daniel Simons did some amazing demonstrations of just how much = can slip by. A person in a gorilla suit is something pretty major. = Also, changing of outfits, food and plates during a single scene is = pretty amazing too. This just proves to me why eyewitness testimony is = so unreliable. Time after time psychologists have shown just how much = information the brain misses when its focus is elsewhere. =20 I find this especially applicable because I am planning to attend law = school after I graduate from the U and I think that it will be very = useful to have a psychology base rather than just a political = science/economics base. Psychology has so much to do with social = deviance alone, and that is not even counting the major implications it = has in things like eyewitness testimony. If so many people miss a = person in a gorilla suit during a short clip just imagine how much other = information is missed in real life situations. The brain simply cannot = and does not process everything at once or it would overload. =20 I think it is a necessary process but one that we also need to be aware = of for these reason. I guess you can't always trust what you see with = your own two eyes. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80006.B204F242 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Selective attention is = something I find fascinating and so useful, but I think it is often not = realized how useful selective attention can be.  If I did not have = the ability to focus in on one thing I do not know how I could get = anything done, ever.  I've noticed that my mind works so much = better if I have something in the background to specifically tune = out.  For example, I need either TV or music on when I do homework = because my mind seems to wander less if it is already working with = selective attention to tune out the music of TV while I spend the rest = of my time focusing on the HW.
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I think Daniel Simons did some amazing = demonstrations of just how much can slip by.  A person in a gorilla = suit is something pretty major.  Also, changing of outfits, food = and plates during a single scene is pretty amazing too.  This just = proves to me why eyewitness testimony is so unreliable.  Time after = time psychologists have shown just how much information the brain misses = when its focus is elsewhere.
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I find this especially applicable = because I am planning to attend law school after I graduate from the U = and I think that it will be very useful to have a psychology base rather = than just a political science/economics base.  Psychology has so = much to do with social deviance alone, and that is not even counting the = major implications it has in things like eyewitness testimony.  If = so many people miss a person in a gorilla suit during a short clip just = imagine how much other information is missed in real life = situations.  The brain simply cannot and does not process = everything at once or it would overload.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C80006.B204F242-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 26 07:37:46 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Camille Elise Buffenmeyer) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:37:46 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Driving While Multi-Tasking Message-ID: <8D0B9A86CFFA8A4AB3DAD5FD05114B481005B8@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80007.C01AC6DA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps the thing I am most guilty of while driving is using my cell = phone. No matter how many times I have heard that it is so distracting = and that you shouldn't do it, the first thing that actually caught my = attention is how it can parallel the effects of drunk driving to be on = your cell phone while driving. I know how detrimental the effects of = drunk driving can be, having had family hit recently by a drunk ex-cop. =20 I think hearing this fact really awoke me to how serious a distraction a = cell phone can be, and it has finally gotten me to think twice before = using my cell phone as I am driving. Driving is one of those things I = think you cannot afford to multi-task during because you risk not only = your life, but the life of everyone around you. =20 I think the states that have banned hand-held phone usage while driving = are taking a step in the right direction, but the problem does not stop = there. The conversation itself is what can be so distracting. I know = if I was in a heated or exciting conversation by default my attention = goes there, not the road. =20 Also, it makes perfect sense to me that people seem to drive better with = a passenger in the car that they are talking to. I think that the = passenger, if old enough, naturally tends to watch the road since they = cannot really make eye contact with the driver. This means that they = are able to spot something the driver might otherwise have missed. = Whether this be an exit, another car or whatever. =20 Probably one of the scariest things that I have seen, or at least = shocking things I remember seeing is a group of people in a truck that = were all deaf and were signing to each other, including the driver. = This meant the driver not only took his/her eyes off the road, but also = took his/her hands off the wheel to sign back. =20 In reality cell phone conversations may be just about this dangerous. I = am glad I've finally started to think twice before picking up my phone. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80007.C01AC6DA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Perhaps the thing I am = most guilty of while driving is using my cell phone.  No matter how = many times I have heard that it is so distracting and that you shouldn't = do it, the first thing that actually caught my attention is how it can = parallel the effects of drunk driving to be on your cell phone while = driving.  I know how detrimental the effects of drunk driving can = be, having had family hit recently by a drunk ex-cop.
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I think hearing this fact really awoke = me to how serious a distraction a cell phone can be, and it has finally = gotten me to think twice before using my cell phone as I am = driving.  Driving is one of those things I think you cannot afford = to multi-task during because you risk not only your life, but the life = of everyone around you.
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I think the states that have banned = hand-held phone usage while driving are taking a step in the right = direction, but the problem does not stop there.  The conversation = itself is what can be so distracting.  I know if I was in a heated = or exciting conversation by default my attention goes there, not the = road.
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Also, it makes perfect sense to me that = people seem to drive better with a passenger in the car that they are = talking to.  I think that the passenger, if old enough, naturally = tends to watch the road since they cannot really make eye contact with = the driver.  This means that they are able to spot something the = driver might otherwise have missed.  Whether this be an exit, = another car or whatever.
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Probably one of the scariest things = that I have seen, or at least shocking things I remember seeing is a = group of people in a truck that were all deaf and were signing to each = other, including the driver.  This meant the driver not only took = his/her eyes off the road, but also took his/her hands off the wheel to = sign back.
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In reality cell phone conversations may = be just about this dangerous.  I am glad I've finally started to = think twice before picking up my phone.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C80007.C01AC6DA-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Sep 26 17:29:35 2007 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Todd Aylesworth) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:29:35 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] bad driver shouldn't talk on cell phones Message-ID: ------=_Part_10611_25561599.1190824175337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Right before I left for a mission, I was driving down the road following my Best friend of 22 years back to my place. The road was wet an my tires were bald. This was just the time that cell phones were getting to be more mainstream. I have just purchased my first (pagers were still hip then). I had just got off the phone with someone, looked up and all I saw was break lights in front of me, I slammed on my break peddle, still no use, my car with not traction and a slick road rammed into my friend. it ended up that there was no damage to his car but my front end was injured. i had blamed th road conditions and my bald tires. I guess I am one of those people that won't see driving an phone conversations to be harmful. I am one who thinks that people who don't drive well to begin with shouldn't do it. how is that perception wrong or is it right? ------=_Part_10611_25561599.1190824175337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Right before I left for a mission, I was driving down the road following my Best friend of 22 years back to my place.  The road was wet an my tires were bald.  This was just the time that cell phones were getting to be more mainstream.  I have just purchased my first (pagers were still hip then).  I had just got off the phone with someone, looked up and all I saw was break lights in front of me, I slammed on my break peddle, still no use, my car with not traction and a slick road rammed into my friend.  it ended up that there was no damage to his car but my front end was injured.  i had blamed th road conditions and my bald tires.  I guess I am one of those people that won't see driving an phone conversations to be harmful.