From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 28 06:19:56 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Paty Aguirre) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:19:56 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] question Message-ID: --_d1406ce6-3bf5-4a53-9c92-5c595b432960_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi=2C i'm patricia from Mexico and my question is that if the scientifics b= elieve in that human have a soul=2C why they cannot use it in the scientifi= c theories and explanations of human behaviour? why the soul can't be studi= ed if the ghost and all that things can be? _________________________________________________________________ Plug&Play te trae en exclusiva los mejores conciertos de la red http://club.prodigymsn.com/ = --_d1406ce6-3bf5-4a53-9c92-5c595b432960_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi=2C i'm patricia from Mexico and my question is that if the scientifics b= elieve in that human have a soul=2C why they cannot use it in the scientifi= c theories and explanations of human behaviour? why the soul can't be studi= ed if the ghost and all that things can be?
=BFTienes c=E1mara d= igital=2C m=E1s de una cuenta de email=2C planeas fiestas o blogueas? Enton= ces=2C necesitas Windows Live = --_d1406ce6-3bf5-4a53-9c92-5c595b432960_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 28 14:00:27 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jon Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:00:27 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ------=_Part_4340_31677217.1219928427057 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I can take a stab at answering that. Science really has not found a "soul" depending on how you define it. If you mean a "part" of you that survives death, then I would argue that there is nothing about "you" that can not be explained via your brain, and your brain does not survive death (by the ver= y definition of the word). If you want to call your frontal lobes (which is responsible for a lot of your personality) or something your soul, then fine, but it decays after death. Attributes like your personality, feelings, etc. can all be explained by neurons interacting in your brain, which is why when people have frontal lobe damage, they typically undergo massive personality changes. Things like ghosts etc. have no scientific evidence, but typically a psychological explanation (the brain is actually not the best "software" for interpreting the world for a lot of reasons). Dualism (the philosophy that the mind and body are separate things) has bee= n as falsified as ever thanks to modern neurology. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Paty Aguirre wrote= : > hi, i'm patricia from Mexico and my question is that if the scientifics > believe in that human have a soul, why they cannot use it in the scientif= ic > theories and explanations of human behaviour? why the soul can't be studi= ed > if the ghost and all that things can be? > ------------------------------ > =BFTienes c=E1mara digital, m=E1s de una cuenta de email, planeas fiestas= o > blogueas? Entonces, necesitas Windows Live > ------=_Part_4340_31677217.1219928427057 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I can take a stab at answering that.  Science really = has not found a "soul" depending on how you define it.  If y= ou mean a "part" of you that survives death, then I would argue t= hat there is nothing about "you" that can not be explained via yo= ur brain, and your brain does not survive death (by the very definition of = the word).  If you want to call your frontal lobes (which is responsib= le for a lot of your personality) or something your soul, then fine, but it= decays after death.  Attributes like your personality, feelings, etc.= can all be explained by neurons interacting in your brain, which is why wh= en people have frontal lobe damage, they typically undergo massive personal= ity changes.  Things like ghosts etc. have no scientific evidence, but= typically a psychological explanation (the brain is actually not the best = "software" for interpreting the world for a lot of reasons). = ; Dualism (the philosophy that the mind and body are separate things) has b= een as falsified as ever thanks to modern neurology.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Paty Aguir= re <paty_1388= @hotmail.com> wrote:
hi, i'm patricia from Mexico and my question is that if the scientifics= believe in that human have a soul, why they cannot use it in the scientifi= c theories and explanations of human behaviour? why the soul can't be s= tudied if the ghost and all that things can be?
=BFTienes c=E1mara digital, m=E1s de una cuenta de email, planeas fiest= as o blogueas? Entonces, necesitas Windows Live

------=_Part_4340_31677217.1219928427057-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 28 21:05:54 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Deus, Rachelle) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] First Week Of The Semester... Message-ID: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90949.7A29798B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody! = So we got through the first week of classes, yay! I really signed up for this class based primarily on the fact that you could earn a modes of learning credit but I am pleasantly surprised on the materials we have learned about so far. I am excited that we are learning about psychology and perceptions and sensations etc as well as all the physiological/anatmonical/scientifical aspects as well. I feel that it will be very challenging material but so interesting and very beneficial! I was looking at the class materials that are posted and enjoyed the hands on activities/articles that were provided. I especially liked the blind spot ones. How cool is it that our mind will make up what should be there when in actuality it is not. Also I love how our eyes will compensate for one another and make up for the blind spot as well. My grandmother lost her right eye at age 4 in a car accident and I am amazed at how smart our mind truly is that it can adapt and her vision has worked very well all of her life so far, she even can drive. = = Another thing I really thought was interesting was the article on that girl named Jennifer Thompson and how eye witnesses mind's can work to come up with an image of who they perceived to be their attacker. It was so interesting to see how her mind tricked her in a sense... did anyone else read that article, any thoughts??? = Well I am excited to see all our the comments throughout the semester on this page and cannot wait to have people I can turn to when I have questions :-) = Til next time! = = -Rachelle Park = = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the us= e of the individuals or entities to whom they are addressed and are not to = be disclosed to any other party. If you have received this email in error p= lease return it to the sender, and erase any copies thereof. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90949.7A29798B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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So we got through the first week of classes, yay! I real= ly signed up for this class based primarily on the fact that you could earn a modes of learning credit but I am pleasantly surprised on the materials we = have learned about so far. I am excited that we are learning about psychology an= d perceptions and sensations etc as well as all the physiological/anatmonical/scientifical aspects as well. I feel that it will= be very challenging material but so interesting and very beneficial! I was looking = at the class materials that are posted and enjoyed the hands on activities/articles that were provided. I especially liked the blind spot o= nes. How cool is it that our mind will make up what should be there when in actuality it is not. Also I love how our eyes will compensate for one anoth= er and make up for the blind spot as well. My grandmother lost her right eye at ag= e 4 in a car accident and I am amazed at how smart our mind truly is that it ca= n adapt and her vision has worked very well all of her life so far, she even = can drive.

 

Another thing I really thought was interesting was the article on that girl named Jennifer Thompson and how eye witnesses mindR= 17;s can work to come up with an image of who they perceived to be their attacke= r. It was so interesting to see how her mind tricked her in a sense… did= anyone else read that article, any thoughts???

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Well I am excited to see all our the comments throughout= the semester on this page and cannot wait to have people I can turn to when I h= ave questions J

 

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=0D Copyright 2007 Amerinet Inc. =0D =0D ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90949.7A29798B-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Aug 28 22:25:56 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:25:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] cognitive definition of perception Message-ID: <20080828152556.3hb66ni8wg88c8oc@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> In class today Dr. Strayer defined perception as "the process of organizing and interpreting sensory information to give it meaning". Do you think there are more similarities or more differences between this cognitive definition of perception and the way the word is used colloquially? Consider for instance if you were to get in an argument with someone. You might say, "My perception of the situation is that you are at fault". How is use of the word similar to the cognitive definition? How is it different? -Ann From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 04:20:59 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Gayle Reschke) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:20:59 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Message-ID: --_e6d1510b-fe62-4663-8c97-211e9f851a40_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On one of the morning show sites=2C there was an interesting article regard= ing an eye cancer called retinoblastoma. A woman saw a picture of her frien= ds baby that was posted online=2C and noticed a white shadow reflected in o= ne of the baby's eyes. She recalled some information she had heard in the p= ast about this type of thing and suggested to her friend that she have it c= hecked. It turned out the baby did have the retinal cancer. The article sta= ted that it usually occurs in early childhood or infancy. It also stated th= at doctors look in the eye with a light and they are looking for a certain = type of reflection in the baby's eye. If there is an abnormal reflection it= may indicate a tumor. In this case the white reflection in the child's eye= was seen on a photograph. Luckily in this case=2C it was noticed early eno= ugh that the baby will be okay=2C although she will lose her one eye. The r= eflection of white light that is seen in the photo is unmistakable=2C altho= ugh if you didn't know the importance of it=2C it would be easy to disregar= d. I thought it was very interesting=2C considering our class lecture today= on the visual system.=20 =20 Gayle Reschke =20 = --_e6d1510b-fe62-4663-8c97-211e9f851a40_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On one of the morning show sites=2C there was an interesting article regard= ing an eye cancer called retinoblastoma. A woman saw a picture of her frien= ds baby that was posted online=2C and noticed a white shadow reflected in o= ne of the baby's eyes. She recalled some information she had heard in the p= ast about this type of thing and suggested to her friend that she have it c= hecked. It turned out the baby did have the retinal cancer. The article sta= ted that it usually occurs in early childhood or infancy. It also stated&nb= sp=3Bthat doctors look in the eye with a light and they are looking for&nbs= p=3Ba certain type of reflection in the baby's eye. If there is an abnormal= reflection it may indicate a tumor. In this case the white reflection in t= he child's eye was seen on a photograph. Luckily in this case=2C it was not= iced early enough that the baby will be okay=2C although she will lose her = one eye. The reflection of white light that is seen in the photo is unmista= kable=2C although if you didn't know the importance of it=2C it would be ea= sy to disregard. I thought it was very interesting=2C considering our class= lecture today on the visual system.
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= --_e6d1510b-fe62-4663-8c97-211e9f851a40_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 05:01:21 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eric Halgren) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:01:21 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Seeing color? Message-ID: <911F1729-717D-4D4A-925C-DAE0F3A90872@gmail.com> I had a question concerning dogs ability to see color. I was wondering if some dogs have better color vision then others. If a dog ate a lot of carrots would his vision improve and by how much? Also I was wondering if you improve the capacity of your rods thus your ability to see at night does this then mean that your abilities to see color will decrease? Eric Halgren From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 15:03:46 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jon Hall) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:03:46 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Seeing color? In-Reply-To: <911F1729-717D-4D4A-925C-DAE0F3A90872@gmail.com> References: <911F1729-717D-4D4A-925C-DAE0F3A90872@gmail.com> Message-ID: ------=_Part_15598_17865117.1220018626236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Vitamins make your vision sharper, and I think it would be hard to say as to what degree it would improve any animals vision, because it's based on a lot of factors. However, dogs have only two sets of cones, they all do. This means that no matter what, your are not going to make a dogs vision as good as a humans. On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Eric Halgren wrote: > I had a question concerning dogs ability to see color. I was wondering if > some dogs have better color vision then others. If a dog ate a lot of > carrots would his vision improve and by how much? Also I was wondering if > you improve the capacity of your rods thus your ability to see at night does > this then mean that your abilities to see color will decrease? > > Eric Halgren > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > ------=_Part_15598_17865117.1220018626236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Vitamins make your vision sharper, and I think it would be hard to say as to what degree it would improve any animals vision, because it's based on a lot of factors.   However, dogs have only two sets of cones, they all do.  This means that no matter what, your are not going to make a dogs vision as good as a humans. 

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Eric Halgren <erichalgren@gmail.com> wrote:
I had a question concerning dogs ability to see color. I was wondering if some dogs have better color vision then others. If a dog ate a lot of carrots would his vision improve and by how much? Also I was wondering if you improve the capacity of your rods thus your ability to see at night does this then mean that your abilities to see color will decrease?

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------=_Part_15598_17865117.1220018626236-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 15:54:04 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JALEAH HOLMAN) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:54:04 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] LASIK Message-ID: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132B8F200@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E7.14EDCEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LASIK surgery Like we talked about in clas, LASIK involves cutting and folding = back the top 20% of the cornea and then reshaping the internal cornea = (stroma) with a laser. THe improvement of vision comes from the = cornea's new ability to focus light directly onto the fovea and not in = front (nearsighted or behind it (farsighted). But since it does take = our bodies time to adjust to changes, post-surgery patients can often = experience blurred vision that may come and go, light sensitivity, = glares when driving at night, and other symptoms that only last a short = time until your body is used to your new way of seeing. Even though = this has been around for some time now, it still amazes me what doctors = can do to change or fix problems we have with our bodies. 00380524 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E7.14EDCEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E7.14EDCEC0-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 16:11:20 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Deus, Rachelle) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:11:20 -0400 Subject: [Psych3120] LASIK In-Reply-To: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132B8F200@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> Message-ID: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E9.7D4779AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah I think it is amazing what technology allows us to do. Lasik Surgery is such a blessing for so many people. My mom actually has had glasses since the second grade but she is so active and hated wearing them to run, play sports, etc. so she rarely would wear them. As she hit her late 40's her near vision started going and so she would wear one contact in one eye and none in the other...this would give me a headache personally but I have never tried it for very long (like say I lost a contact and was not home to replace it with a new one). She says her eyes adjusted and it worked nicely for her. So six months ago she had Lasik Surgery in just her one eye! She did experience a tiny bit of night glare and some fogginess on and off but her eyes are slowly adjusting and she loves it! I cannot imagine seeing farsighted with one eye and near sighted with the other, but she does it....I think it is amazing how well our bodies learn to adapt and adjust. One more quick story about vision adapting/adjusting. My sister in law had her first babie premature at 24 weeks.(this is the earliest they usually can save the baby). Well after about 3 months of being in the NICU and a million dollars later this little girl came home. Miracously the doctors said her only potential permanent problem will be that she will have to wear glasses her whole life but at 2 years they would test her eyes to see for sure. Well they did and she received glasses, but they also would have her wear a patch over one eye for a day or so (not wearing her glasses) and then she would switch the patch to the other eye for he same amount of time. Eventually her eyes adjust and adapted and she now does not even have to wear glasses. Her vision is just where it should be! Quite the miracle baby I think....but just another example of how well we can adjust/adapt. = = Rachelle Park = ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of JALEAH HOLMAN Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:54 AM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] LASIK = LASIK surgery Like we talked about in clas, LASIK involves cutting and folding back the top 20% of the cornea and then reshaping the internal cornea (stroma) with a laser. THe improvement of vision comes from the cornea's new ability to focus light directly onto the fovea and not in front (nearsighted or behind it (farsighted). But since it does take our bodies time to adjust to changes, post-surgery patients can often experience blurred vision that may come and go, light sensitivity, glares when driving at night, and other symptoms that only last a short time until your body is used to your new way of seeing. Even though this has been around for some time now, it still amazes me what doctors can do to change or fix problems we have with our bodies. 00380524 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the us= e of the individuals or entities to whom they are addressed and are not to = be disclosed to any other party. If you have received this email in error p= lease return it to the sender, and erase any copies thereof. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E9.7D4779AB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah I think it is amazing what techno= logy allows us to do. Lasik Surgery is such a blessing for so many people. My mo= m actually has had glasses since the second grade but she is so active and ha= ted wearing them to run, play sports, etc. so she rarely would wear them. As sh= e hit her late 40’s her near vision started going and so she would wear= one contact in one eye and none in the other…this would give me a headach= e personally but I have never tried it for very long (like say I lost a conta= ct and was not home to replace it with a new one). She says her eyes adjusted = and it worked nicely for her. So six months ago she had Lasik Surgery in just h= er one eye! She did experience a tiny bit of night glare and some fogginess on= and off but her eyes are slowly adjusting and she loves it! I cannot imagine se= eing farsighted with one eye and near sighted with the other, but she does it= 230;.I think it is amazing how well our bodies learn to adapt and adjust. One more= quick story about vision adapting/adjusting. My sister in law had her first= babie premature at 24 weeks.(this is the earliest they usually can save the= baby). Well after about 3 months of being in the NICU and a million dollars= later this little girl came home. Miracously the doctors said her only potential permanent problem will be that she will have to wear glasses her whole life but at 2 years they would test her eyes to see for sure. Well th= ey did and she received glasses, but they also would have her wear a patch ove= r one eye for a day or so (not wearing her glasses) and then she would switch= the patch to the other eye for he same amount of time. Eventually her eyes adju= st and adapted and she now does not even have to wear glasses. Her vision is j= ust where it should be! Quite the miracle baby I think….but just another example of how well we can adjust/adapt.

 

 

Rachelle Park

 

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     Like we talked about in clas, L= ASIK involves cutting and folding back the top 20% of the cornea and then reshap= ing the internal cornea (stroma) with a laser.  THe improvement of vision comes from the cornea's new ability to focus light directly onto the fovea = and not in front (nearsighted or behind it (farsighted).  But since i= t does take our bodies time to adjust to changes, post-surgery patients can o= ften experience blurred vision that may come and go, light sensitivity, glares w= hen driving at night, and other symptoms that only last a short time until your= body is used to your new way of seeing.  Even though this has been aro= und for some time now, it still amazes me what doctors can do to change or fix problems we have with our bodies.

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=0D Copyright 2007 Amerinet Inc. =0D =0D ------_=_NextPart_001_01C909E9.7D4779AB-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 18:06:38 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Geoff Sink) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Sensation and Perception Message-ID: <210639.97576.qm@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm still a little confused about how exactly to post to the message board, so we'll see how this goes. I took a neuropsychology class in the spring where we went into the mechanics of how sight works. I was surprised by how little processing the retina actually does. I know it can inhibit repetitive signals and needs retinol to be replenished almost constantly to be able to function. It is interesting how small the size of color vision actually is, the size of a quarter. It makes sense that the mind would fill in the rest of the field of vision based on patterns. It makes me question the claims of people who say they see ghosts out of the corner of their eye. Yes, they could probably see some sort of motion, but it seems that because they can't actually see what the object is their mind assumes it is a ghost. It fills in a pattern. That could also explain why people who don't believe in ghosts rarely see them; they see some motion and their brain fills in a pattern of a person or animal because ghosts don't exist for them. Geoff Sink From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 20:29:01 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lindsay Bryan) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Message-ID: <921210.80632.qm@web90504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-319371303-1220038141=:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting already.=A0 Th= ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought about = before.=A0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system wor= ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought about= .=A0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and= magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway is = severed.=A0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and allow = a body to touch or catch something that=A0it cannot actually see, as far as= form and color, is impressive.=A0=20 =A0 Lindsay Bryan=0A=0A=0A --0-319371303-1220038141=:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Learning about perception and attention has been interesting already.  There are several things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

--0-319371303-1220038141=:80632-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Aug 29 23:12:40 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shambrae W) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Message-ID: <9a2db3900808291512n73c7b281r2d3a937a897b9ffb@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
------=_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 30 00:56:17 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Annika Van Hove) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more Message-ID: <84535.16147.qm@web53311.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-266248466-1220054177=:16147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0=A0=A0=A0 I was very interested in one of the questions posted here on b= ees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and fo= und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and= detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class note= s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into th= e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a found= ation of night vision,=A0which leads me to believe that they may very well = have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may just = be behavioural. =A0=A0=A0=A0 My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do = they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability = of=A0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can brain dam= age hurt perception like it does sensation?=0A=0A=0A --0-266248466-1220054177=:16147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
     I was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does sensation?

--0-266248466-1220054177=:16147-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 30 05:19:58 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aaron Norton) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Test Message-ID: ------=_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is my first true neuropsychology class. So most of this stuff is new to me. I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision. I understand the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision? I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and trying them out myself. ------=_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new to me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision.  I understand the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and trying them out myself.
------=_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 30 21:47:56 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ultimate Film Fan) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post Message-ID: <212207.52259.qm@web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of = Learning credit.=A0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed= so far in class.=0A=0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see = color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed i= n one of my early science classes.=A0 Apperently lawyers often try to trick= witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.=A0= i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the = crime".=A0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attor= ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=A0 I guess e= veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=0A=0AI've always = found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to fu= ture discussions both in class on on this board.=A0 I've enjoyed your posts= so far, so keep up the great posts.=0A=0ABrent Cowley=0A=0A=0A --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.  I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.
 
When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my early science classes.  Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.  i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the crime".  Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.  I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.
 
I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this board.  I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.
 
Brent Cowley

--0-23670101-1220129276=:52259-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Aug 30 22:20:56 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Angela Johnson) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) Message-ID: --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. However=2C after hearing about it=2C = I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's visio= n other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. I did a little researc= h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested. It co= nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). People wear the= se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep. Ortho-k lenses reshape the c= orneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery. R= esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost instantly a= nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them. However=2C resul= ts are not the same for everyone=2C and the reshaping seems to only be temp= orary. Furthermore=2C the cost of the fitting for the lenses and the lense= s themselves are still quite expensive. But at least vision correction may= not require surgery! =20 Angela Johnson= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. =3B However=2C after hearing about= it=2C I wondered if there were =3Balternative methods of correcting a = person's vision other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. =3B I= did a little research and found a new type of =3Btechnology =3Btha= t is currently being tested. =3B =3BIt consists of =3Borthokera= tology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). =3B People wear these hard lens= es at nighttime while they sleep. =3B =3BOrtho-k lenses reshape the= corneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery.&= nbsp=3B Research has found that some people respond to the =3Blenses al= most instantly and are able to see 20/20 the next day after =3Bwearing = them. =3B However=2C results are not the same for everyone=2C and the r= eshaping seems to only be temporary. =3B Furthermore=2C the cost of the= fitting for the lenses and the lenses themselves are still quite expensive= . =3B But at least vision correction may not require surgery!
 =3B
Angela Johnson
= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Aug 31 01:02:52 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kimberlee Baker) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Message-ID: <8e52c8a0808301702q12a1333cr3c97333b12f1cded@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing. So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness. I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again? Or would their eyes just get even worse? I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older. Does anyone know if that is true? -Kim Baker ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or would their eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker
------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Aug 31 18:51:59 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images References: <200808301803.m7UI36oF020792@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <5D50840A9272CF4694EF4728F6FD0584561C6C@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First a class question: When are the mode postings due? I hope this isn't late but it is the = last day of the week. =20 =20 I am curious about retinal images. In chapter one, it states that "it = doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or = bottom..." My curiousity stems from the ideat that if it doesn't matter = then why does an image become upside down on the retina? And then how = does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive. Is this done = by the retina or our brain? I am sure the answer will come about during = the course. =20 Shonda Buckland =20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 8/30/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1178 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan) 2. Vision (Shambrae W) 3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van = Hove) 4. Test (Aaron Norton) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Bryan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting = already.=3DA0 Th=3D ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought = about =3D before.=3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye = system wor=3D ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D .=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and=3D magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is =3D severed.=3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and = allow =3D a body to touch or catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as = far as=3D form and color, is impressive.=3DA0=3D20 =3DA0 Lindsay Bryan=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
Learning about perception = and attention has been interesting already.  There are several = things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  = I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but = there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the = parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can = sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something = that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is = impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

=20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632-- --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 From: "Shambrae W" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than = we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones = alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I = never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that = the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I found it interesting that bees see patterns and = different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, = if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they = don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision = that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223-- --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Annika Van Hove To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and = more Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested in one of the questions = posted here on b=3D ees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and = fo=3D und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = and=3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = note=3D s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into = th=3D e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a = found=3D ation of night vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very = well =3D have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may = just =3D be behavioural. =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question would be how do animals fill in the = blindspot. Do =3D they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this = ability =3D of=3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can = brain dam=3D age hurt perception like it does sensation?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
     I = was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if = they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and = detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts = well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that = they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out = at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill = in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? = Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking = with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does = sensation?

=20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 -0600 From: "Aaron Norton" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Test Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is my first true neuropsychology class. So most of this stuff is = new to me. I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision. I understand = the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision? I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and = trying them out myself. ------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So = most of this stuff is new to me.  I wonder if anyone can help = explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white = at the peripheral vision.  I understand the concept, but then why = don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in = class and trying them out myself.
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lindsay Bryan = <luluneybin@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: = perception and attention
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Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.=3DA0 Th=3D
ere are several things that I have = learned that I never even thought about =3D
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ks but there = were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D
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 magnocellular pathways and what happens = when the parvocellular pathway is =3D
severed.=3DA0 The fact that the = brain can sense where something is and allow =3D
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: = inherit;"><DIV>Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.&nbsp; There are several things that I have = learned that I never even thought about before.&nbsp; I've always = had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were = things brought up in class that I had never thought about.&nbsp; I = thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and = magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the brain can sense where something = is and allow a body to touch or catch something that&nbsp;it cannot = actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive.&nbsp; = </DIV>
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<DIV>Lindsay = Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 = -0600
From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] = Vision
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I found it interesting that = bees see patterns and different colors than we
do. Does anybody know = how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone
or if they = even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never
see = bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a = human beings vision that the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. = I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this = issue as well?

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<div = dir=3D"ltr"><div>I found it interesting that bees see patterns = and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision = works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I = assume they don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at = night. = </div>

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<div>Also,= I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the = brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? = </div>
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<div>Shambrae = Will</div></div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove = <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" = <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 = first week: answer to bee question and more
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=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested in = one of the questions posted here on b=3D
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und that because = rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = and=3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. = >From our class note=3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 = nm level and just up into th=3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they = detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D
ation of night = vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well = =3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it = may just =3D
be behavioural.
=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question = would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D
they use their = perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability = =3D
of=3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? = Can brain dam=3D
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This is my first true = neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new
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concept, but then why don't things go = gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the = examples we'll see in class and trying
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This = is my first true neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff = is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little = more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral = vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&#39;t = things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m = definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in class = and trying them out = myself.<br></div>

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Aug 31 19:12:33 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:12:33 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] reply to nearsided question References: <200808311757.m7VHuYla001702@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <5D50840A9272CF4694EF4728F6FD0584561C6E@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B95.23911338 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am very nearsided and have been since 5 years old. My eyes have = actually gotten worse each year but then a few years ago they stopped = getting worse but they aren't getting any better either. My Dr. did = tell me something along the lines that my eyes just might stop getting = worse and if they got better it wouldn't be by much. =20 I found the details about lasik surgery very interesting as well. I = have always wanted to try it but just have not gotten around to it. My = friend has had lasik and she said there was nothing to be concerned = about-you can't feel it because the cornia does not have nerve cells. = But because of the preception that it will hurt a lot of people get = vallum to calm themselves down. I think I would probably be one of = those people. Shonda ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sun 8/31/2008 11:56 AM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan) 2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson) 3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker) 4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate Film Fan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode = of =3D Learning credit.=3DA0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics = discussed=3D so far in class.=3D0A=3D0AWhen discussing color and whether we can = really see =3D color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject = discussed i=3D n one of my early science classes.=3DA0 Apperently lawyers often try to = trick=3D witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their = eyes.=3DA0=3D i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of = the =3D crime".=3DA0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense = attor=3D ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=3DA0 I = guess e=3D veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=3D0A=3D0AI've = always =3D found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to = fu=3D ture discussions both in class on on this board.=3DA0 I've enjoyed your = posts=3D so far, so keep up the great posts.=3D0A=3D0ABrent = Cowley=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
Like many of you I took this = course primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.  I = too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in = class.
 
When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of = the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of = my early science classes.  Apperently lawyers often try to trick = witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their = eyes.  i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the = scene of the crime".  Many cases have been lost or dismissed = because the defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the = perifrial vision.  I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but = this one floors me.
 
I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating = and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this = board.  I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great = posts.
 
Brent Cowley

--0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Angela Johnson To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik = surgery=3D2C =3D even though it was a bit disturbing. However=3D2C after hearing about = it=3D2C =3D I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's = visio=3D n other than using contacts=3D2C glasses=3D2C or Lasik. I did a little = researc=3D h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested. It = co=3D nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). People wear = the=3D se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep. Ortho-k lenses reshape = the c=3D orneas without actually removing them=3D2C which is done in Lasik = surgery. R=3D esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost = instantly a=3D nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them. However=3D2C = resul=3D ts are not the same for everyone=3D2C and the reshaping seems to only be = temp=3D orary. Furthermore=3D2C the cost of the fitting for the lenses and the = lense=3D s themselves are still quite expensive. But at least vision correction = may=3D not require surgery! =3D20 Angela Johnson=3D --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik = surgery=3D2C =3D even though it was a bit disturbing. =3D3B However=3D2C after = hearing about=3D it=3D2C I wondered if there were =3D3Balternative methods of = correcting a =3D person's vision other than using contacts=3D2C glasses=3D2C or = Lasik. =3D3B I=3D did a little research and found a new type = of =3D3Btechnology =3D3Btha=3D t is currently being tested. =3D3B =3D3BIt consists = of =3D3Borthokera=3D tology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). =3D3B People wear these hard = lens=3D es at nighttime while they sleep. =3D3B =3D3BOrtho-k lenses = reshape the=3D corneas without actually removing them=3D2C which is done in Lasik = surgery.&=3D nbsp=3D3B Research has found that some people respond to = the =3D3Blenses al=3D most instantly and are able to see 20/20 the next day = after =3D3Bwearing =3D them. =3D3B However=3D2C results are not the same for everyone=3D2C = and the r=3D eshaping seems to only be temporary. =3D3B Furthermore=3D2C the cost = of the=3D fitting for the lenses and the lenses themselves are still quite = expensive=3D . =3D3B But at least vision correction may not require surgery!
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Angela Johnson
=3D --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_-- --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600 From: "Kimberlee Baker" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't = really know what I am doing. So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about = what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness. I was wondering, = if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again? Or would = their eyes just get even worse? I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older. Does anyone know if that is true? -Kim Baker ------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hopefully this works because I have never used this = before and don't really know what I am doing.  So, after class = on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted = and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if someone becomes near or = farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are = older and their eyes change again?  Or would their eyes just get = even worse?  I have heard that when people are nearsighted when = they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does = anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker
------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600 From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" To: , Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First a class question: When are the mode postings due? I hope this isn't late but it is the = =3D last day of the week. =3D20 =3D20 I am curious about retinal images. In chapter one, it states that "it = =3D doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or = =3D bottom..." My curiousity stems from the ideat that if it doesn't matter = =3D then why does an image become upside down on the retina? And then how = =3D does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive. Is this done = =3D by the retina or our brain? I am sure the answer will come about during = =3D the course. =3D20 Shonda Buckland =3D20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of =3D psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 8/30/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1178 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan) 2. Vision (Shambrae W) 3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van = =3D Hove) 4. Test (Aaron Norton) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Bryan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting =3D already.=3D3DA0 Th=3D3D ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought =3D about =3D3D before.=3D3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye =3D system wor=3D3D ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = =3D about=3D3D .=3D3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =3D parvocellular and=3D3D magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = =3D is =3D3D severed.=3D3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and = =3D allow =3D3D a body to touch or catch something that=3D3DA0it cannot actually see, as = =3D far as=3D3D form and color, is impressive.=3D3DA0=3D3D20 =3D3DA0 Lindsay Bryan=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A =3D20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3Dus-ascii
Learning about = perception =3D and attention has been interesting already.  There are several =3D things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  = =3D I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but = =3D there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =3D about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =3D parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the =3D parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can =3D sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something = =3D that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is =3D impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

=3D20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 From: "Shambrae W" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than = =3D we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones = =3D alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I =3D never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that = =3D the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I found it interesting that bees see patterns = and =3D different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, = =3D if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they = =3D don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision = =3D that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if = =3D other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223-- -- __--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Annika Van Hove To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and = =3D more Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 I was very interested in one of the = questions =3D posted here on b=3D3D ees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and = =3D fo=3D3D und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = =3D and=3D3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = =3D note=3D3D s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into = =3D th=3D3D e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a = =3D found=3D3D ation of night vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe that they may = very =3D well =3D3D have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may = =3D just =3D3D be behavioural. =3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My question would be how do animals fill in = the =3D blindspot. Do =3D3D they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D ability =3D3D of=3D3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can = =3D brain dam=3D3D age hurt perception like it does sensation?=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A = =3D20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3Dus-ascii
     I =3D was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if = =3D they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = =3D because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = =3D notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = =3D into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =3D well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that = =3D they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out = =3D at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill = =3D in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? = =3D Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking =3D with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =3D sensation?

=3D20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147-- -- __--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 -0600 From: "Aaron Norton" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Test Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is my first true neuropsychology class. So most of this stuff is = =3D new to me. I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =3D concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision. I understand = =3D the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision? I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and = =3D trying them out myself. ------=3D3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So = =3D most of this stuff is new to me.  I wonder if anyone can help =3D explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white = =3D at the peripheral vision.  I understand the concept, but then why = =3D don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in =3D class and trying them out myself.
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<DIV>Lindsay = =3D Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 =3D -0600
From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: =3D psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] =3D Vision
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I found it interesting that = =3D bees see patterns and different colors than we
do. Does anybody know = =3D how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone
or if they =3D even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never
see = =3D bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a = =3D human beings vision that the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. = =3D I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this =3D issue as well?

Shambrae =3D Will

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<div =3D dir=3D3D"ltr"><div>I found it interesting that bees see = patterns =3D and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision =3D works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I =3D assume they don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at =3D night. =3D </div>

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<div>Also,= =3D I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the = =3D brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =3D other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? =3D </div>
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<div>Shambrae = =3D Will</div></div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = =3D 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove =3D <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" =3D <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 = =3D first week: answer to bee question and more
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=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 I was very = interested in =3D one of the questions posted here on b=3D3D
ees and if they have both = =3D rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D3D
und that = because =3D rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =3D and=3D3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. = =3D >From our class note=3D3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the = 300 =3D nm level and just up into th=3D3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means = they =3D detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D3D
ation of night =3D vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well =3D =3D3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, = it =3D may just =3D3D
be behavioural.
=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My = question =3D would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D3D
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D ;nbsp; My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =3D damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =3D sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 = =3D -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: =3D psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
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This is my first true =3D neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new
to =3D me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = =3D concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral =3D vision.  I understand the
concept, but then why don't things go = =3D gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the = =3D examples we'll see in class and trying
them out =3D myself.

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<div dir=3D3D"ltr">This = =3D is my first true neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff = =3D is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little =3D more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral = =3D vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&#39;t = =3D things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m =3D definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in class = =3D and trying them out =3D myself.<br></div>

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much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses. i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems. --- On Sun, 8/31/08, psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:57 AM Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with 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Today's Topics: 1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan) 2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson) 3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker) 4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate Film Fan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of = Learning credit.=A0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed= so far in class.=0A=0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see = color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed i= n one of my early science classes.=A0 Apperently lawyers often try to trick= witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.=A0= i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the = crime".=A0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attor= ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=A0 I guess e= veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=0A=0AI've always = found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to fu= ture discussions both in class on on this board.=A0 I've enjoyed your posts= so far, so keep up the great posts.=0A=0ABrent Cowley=0A=0A=0A --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.  I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.
 
When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my early science classes.  Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.  i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the crime".  Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.  I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.
 
I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this board.  I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.
 
Brent Cowley

--0-23670101-1220129276=:52259-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Angela Johnson To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. However=2C after hearing about it=2C = I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's visio= n other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. I did a little researc= h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested. It co= nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). People wear the= se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep. Ortho-k lenses reshape the c= orneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery. R= esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost instantly a= nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them. However=2C resul= ts are not the same for everyone=2C and the reshaping seems to only be temp= orary. Furthermore=2C the cost of the fitting for the lenses and the lense= s themselves are still quite expensive. But at least vision correction may= not require surgery! =20 Angela Johnson= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. =3B However=2C after hearing about= it=2C I wondered if there were =3Balternative methods of correcting a = person's vision other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. =3B I= did a little research and found a new type of =3Btechnology =3Btha= t is currently being tested. =3B =3BIt consists of =3Borthokera= tology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). =3B People wear these hard lens= es at nighttime while they sleep. =3B =3BOrtho-k lenses reshape the= corneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery.&= nbsp=3B Research has found that some people respond to the =3Blenses al= most instantly and are able to see 20/20 the next day after =3Bwearing = them. =3B However=2C results are not the same for everyone=2C and the r= eshaping seems to only be temporary. =3B Furthermore=2C the cost of the= fitting for the lenses and the lenses themselves are still quite expensive= . =3B But at least vision correction may not require surgery!
 =3B
Angela Johnson
= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_-- --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600 From: "Kimberlee Baker" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing. So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness. I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again? Or would their eyes just get even worse? I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older. Does anyone know if that is true? -Kim Baker ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or would their eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker
------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600 From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" To: , Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First a class question: When are the mode postings due? I hope this isn't late but it is the = last day of the week. =20 =20 I am curious about retinal images. In chapter one, it states that "it = doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or = bottom..." My curiousity stems from the ideat that if it doesn't matter = then why does an image become upside down on the retina? And then how = does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive. Is this done = by the retina or our brain? I am sure the answer will come about during = the course. =20 Shonda Buckland =20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 8/30/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1178 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan) 2. Vision (Shambrae W) 3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van = Hove) 4. Test (Aaron Norton) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Bryan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting = already.=3DA0 Th=3D ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought = about =3D before.=3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye = system wor=3D ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D .=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and=3D magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is =3D severed.=3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and = allow =3D a body to touch or catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as = far as=3D form and color, is impressive.=3DA0=3D20 =3DA0 Lindsay Bryan=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
Learning about perception = and attention has been interesting already.  There are several = things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  = I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but = there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the = parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can = sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something = that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is = impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

=20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 From: "Shambrae W" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than = we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones = alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I = never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that = the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I found it interesting that bees see patterns and = different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, = if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they = don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision = that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
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     I = was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if = they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and = detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts = well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that = they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out = at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill = in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? = Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking = with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does = sensation?

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I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in = class and trying them out myself.
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Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: = perception and attention
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Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.=3DA0 Th=3D
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ks but there = were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: = inherit;"><DIV>Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.&nbsp; There are several things that I have = learned that I never even thought about before.&nbsp; I've always = had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were = things brought up in class that I had never thought about.&nbsp; I = thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and = magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the brain can sense where something = is and allow a body to touch or catch something that&nbsp;it cannot = actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive.&nbsp; = </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lindsay = Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] = Vision
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I found it interesting that = bees see patterns and different colors than we
do. Does anybody know = how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone
or if they = even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never
see = bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a = human beings vision that the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. = I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this = issue as well?

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<div = dir=3D"ltr"><div>I found it interesting that bees see patterns = and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision = works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I = assume they don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at = night. = </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also,= I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the = brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? = </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Shambrae = Will</div></div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove = <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" = <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 = first week: answer to bee question and more
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=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested in = one of the questions posted here on b=3D
ees and if they have both = rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D
und that because = rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = and=3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. = >From our class note=3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 = nm level and just up into th=3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they = detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D
ation of night = vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well = =3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it = may just =3D
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= ;nbsp; My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do = they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this = ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain = damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does = sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 = -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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This is my first true = neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new
to = me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral = vision.  I understand the
concept, but then why don't things go = gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the = examples we'll see in class and trying
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This = is my first true neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff = is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little = more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral = vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&#39;t = things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m = definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in class = and trying them out = myself.<br></div>

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Hi Kim i read your message and just wanted to tell you that my brother when he was little he was far sighted well still is far sighted, but it did get worse as he got older. but i also heard that if you dont wear your glasses it would make your eyesight worse, because it puts to much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses.

i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems.



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Today's Topics:

   1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan)
   2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson)
   3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker)
   4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ultimate Film Fan <ultimatefilmfan@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post
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Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of =
Learning credit.=A0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed=
 so far in class.=0A=0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see =
color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed i=
n one of my
 early science classes.=A0 Apperently lawyers often try to trick=
 witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.=A0=
 i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the
=
crime".=A0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense
attor=
ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=A0 I guess
e=
veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=0A=0AI've always
=
found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to fu=
ture discussions both in class on on this board.=A0 I've enjoyed your
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primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.&nbsp; I too have
been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of the
corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my early
science classes.&nbsp; Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses into
stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.&nbsp; i.e.
"Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the
crime".&nbsp; Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the
defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial
vision.&nbsp; I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one
 floors
me.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating
and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this board.&nbsp;
I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brent Cowley</DIV></div><br>

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From: Angela Johnson <lucky_lil_angel16@hotmail.com>
To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson)
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I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's
visio=
n other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik.  I did a little researc=
h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested.  It co=
nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses).  People wear the=
se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep.  Ortho-k lenses reshape the c=
orneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery.  R=
esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost instantly a=
nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them.  However=2C resul=
ts are not the same for everyone=2C and the reshaping seems to only be temp=
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600
From: "Kimberlee Baker" <kimiko83@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Vision
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Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really
know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what
we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if
someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes
balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or would their
eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are
 nearsighted
when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does
anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker

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<div dir="ltr">Hopefully this works because I have never used
this before and don&#39;t really know what I am doing.&nbsp; So, after
class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and
farsightedness.&nbsp; I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted
when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their
eyes change again?&nbsp; Or would their eyes just get even worse?&nbsp;
I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes
balance out  when they are older.&nbsp; Does anyone know if that
 is
true?<br>
<br>-Kim Baker<br></div>

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600
From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" <u0567832@utah.edu>
To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>,
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images
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First a class question:
When are the mode postings due?  I hope this isn't late but it is the =
last day of the week.   =20
=20
I am curious about retinal images.  In chapter one, it states that "it =
doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or =
bottom..."  My curiousity stems from the
 ideat that if it doesn't
matter =
then why does an image become upside down on the retina?  And then how =
does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive.  Is this done =
by the retina or our brain?  I am sure the answer will come about during =
the course.
=20
Shonda Buckland

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   2. Vision (Shambrae W)
   3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van =
Hove)
   4. Test (Aaron Norton)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lindsay Bryan <luluneybin@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
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Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention
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Learning about perception and attention has been interesting =
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 Th=3D
ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought =
about =3D
before.=3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye =
system wor=3D
ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =
about=3D
.=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and=3D
 magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway =
is =3D
severed.=3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and =
allow =3D
a body to touch or catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as =
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inherit;"><DIV>Learning about
 perception =
and attention has been interesting already.&nbsp; There are several =
things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.&nbsp; =
I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but =
there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =
about.&nbsp; I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the =
parvocellular pathway is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the brain can =
sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something =
that&nbsp;it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is =
impressive.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lindsay
Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 16:12:40 -0600
From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Vision
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I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than =
we
do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones =
alone
or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I =
never
see bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that =
the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?

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see patterns and =
different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, =
if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they =
don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at night. </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision =
that the brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =
other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Shambrae Will</div></div>

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove
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To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu"
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Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and =
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fo=3D
und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =
and=3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
note=3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into =
th=3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a =
found=3D
ation of night vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe
 that they may very =
well =3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may =
just =3D
be behavioural.
=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question would be how do animals fill in the =
blindspot. Do =3D
they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =
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was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if =
they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that =
because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer
 than 640 nm and =
detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up =
into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =
well, a foundation of night vision,&nbsp;which leads me to believe that =
they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out =
at night, it may just be behavioural.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My question would be how do
animals fill =
in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? =
Also, can this ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking =
with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =
sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 22:19:58 -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
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This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is =
new
to me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =
concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral vision.  I understand =
the
concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and =
trying
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class.&nbsp; So =
most of this stuff is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help =
explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white =
at the peripheral vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why =
don&#39;t things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in =
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1<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =
12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Lindsay Bryan =
&lt;luluneybin@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To:
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Cc: =
luluneybin@yahoo.com<BR>Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: =
perception and attention<BR>Reply-To: =
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quoted-printable<BR><BR>Learning about perception and attention has
been =
interesting already.=3DA0 Th=3D<BR>ere are several things that I have =
learned that I never even thought about =3D<BR>before.=3DA0 I've
always =
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system wor=3D<BR>ks but there =
were things brought up in class that I had never thought
 =
about=3D<BR>.=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and=3D<BR>&nbsp;magnocellular pathways and what happens
=
when the parvocellular pathway is =3D<BR>severed.=3DA0 The fact that the
=
brain can sense where something is and allow =3D<BR>a body to touch or =
catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as far =
as=3D<BR>&nbsp;form and color, is =
impressive.=3DA0=3D20<BR>=3DA0<BR>Lindsay =
Bryan=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>--0-319371303-12200=
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inherit;"&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Learning about perception and
attention has been =
interesting
 already.&amp;nbsp; There are several things that I have =
learned that I never even thought about before.&amp;nbsp; I've always =
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were =
things brought up in class that I had never thought about.&amp;nbsp; I =
thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and =
magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway =
is severed.&amp;nbsp; The fact that the brain can sense where something =
is and allow a body to touch or catch something that&amp;nbsp;it cannot =
actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive.&amp;nbsp;
 =
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;Lindsay
=
Bryan&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR><BR>&n=
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R>-- __--__-- <BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008
16:12:40 =
-0600<BR>From: "Shambrae W"
&lt;sham.will@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: [Psych3120] =
Vision<BR>Reply-To: =
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7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>I found it
interesting that =
bees see
 patterns and different colors than we<BR>do. Does anybody know =
how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone<BR>or if they =
even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never<BR>see
=
bees out at night.<BR><BR>Also, I was interested in the blind spot
in a =
human beings vision that the<BR>brain fills in to complete the pattern. =
I was wondering if other animals<BR>such as dogs and cats have this =
issue as well?<BR><BR>Shambrae =
Will<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223<BR>Content-Type:
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dir=3D"ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;I found it interesting that
bees see patterns =
and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision =
works, if it
 consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I =
assume they don&amp;#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at =
night. =
&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Also,=
 I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the =
brain fills in to complete&amp;nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =
other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? =
&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Shambrae
=
Will&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.12200479=
60223--<BR><BR>-- __--__-- <BR><BR>Message:
3<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =
16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Annika Van Hove
 =
&lt;annivanhove@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To:
"psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" =
&lt;psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu&gt;<BR>Subject: [Psych3120]
Psych 3120 =
first week: answer to bee question and more<BR>Reply-To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>--0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147<BR=
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quoted-printable<BR><BR>=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested
in =
one of the questions posted here on b=3D<BR>ees and if they have both =
rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D<BR>und that because
=
rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =
and=3D<BR>&nbsp;detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have
rods. =
From our class note=3D<BR>s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300
=
nm level and just up
 into th=3D<BR>e reds around 600 nm. This means they
=
detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D<BR>ation of night =
vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well =
=3D<BR>have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it
=
may just =3D<BR>be behavioural.<BR>=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question
=
would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D<BR>they use their =
perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability =
=3D<BR>of=3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? =
Can brain dam=3D<BR>age hurt perception like it does =
sensation?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>--0-266248466-=
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I was =
very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if they =
have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that =
because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =
detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up =
into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =
well, a foundation of night vision,&amp;nbsp;which leads me to believe =
that they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not =
out at night, it may just be =
behavioural.&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp=
;nbsp; My question would be
 how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =
they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =
ability of&amp;nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =
damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =
sensation?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR><=
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29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 =
-0600<BR>From: "Aaron Norton"
&lt;norton.aaron@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: [Psych3120]
Test<BR>Reply-To: =
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9998795<BR>Content-Type: text/plain;
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true =
neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff is new<BR>to =
me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =
concept<BR>of things going black and white at the peripheral =
vision.&nbsp; I understand the<BR>concept, but then why don't
things go =
gray at the sides of my vision?<BR>I'm definitely looking forward to
the =
examples we'll see in class and trying<BR>them out =
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dir=3D"ltr"&gt;This =
is my first true neuropsychology class.&amp;nbsp; So most
 of this stuff =
is new to me.&amp;nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little =
more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral =
vision.&amp;nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&amp;#39;t
=
things go gray at the sides of my
vision?&lt;br&gt;<BR>I&amp;#39;m =
definitely looking forward to the examples we&amp;#39;ll see in class =
and trying them out =
myself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.122006=
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--0-2083408368-1220206989=:92014-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Aug 31 19:25:02 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jake moss) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs In-Reply-To: <200808311758.m7VHvZsC001710@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <208296.20900.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1723291518-1220207102=:20900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Kim i read your message and just wanted to tell you that my brother when he was little he was far sighted well still is far sighted, but it did get worse as he got older. but i also heard that if you dont wear your glasses it would make your eyesight worse, because it puts to much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses. i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems. Makeon Hendrix --- On Sun, 8/31/08, psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:57 AM Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan) 2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson) 3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker) 4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate Film Fan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of = Learning credit.=A0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed= so far in class.=0A=0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see = color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed i= n one of my early science classes.=A0 Apperently lawyers often try to trick= witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.=A0= i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the = crime".=A0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attor= ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=A0 I guess e= veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=0A=0AI've always = found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to fu= ture discussions both in class on on this board.=A0 I've enjoyed your posts= so far, so keep up the great posts.=0A=0ABrent Cowley=0A=0A=0A --0-23670101-1220129276=:52259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.  I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.
 
When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my early science classes.  Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.  i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the crime".  Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.  I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.
 
I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this board.  I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.
 
Brent Cowley

--0-23670101-1220129276=:52259-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Angela Johnson To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. However=2C after hearing about it=2C = I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's visio= n other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. I did a little researc= h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested. It co= nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). People wear the= se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep. Ortho-k lenses reshape the c= orneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery. R= esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost instantly a= nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them. However=2C resul= ts are not the same for everyone=2C and the reshaping seems to only be temp= orary. Furthermore=2C the cost of the fitting for the lenses and the lense= s themselves are still quite expensive. But at least vision correction may= not require surgery! =20 Angela Johnson= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik surgery=2C = even though it was a bit disturbing. =3B However=2C after hearing about= it=2C I wondered if there were =3Balternative methods of correcting a = person's vision other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik. =3B I= did a little research and found a new type of =3Btechnology =3Btha= t is currently being tested. =3B =3BIt consists of =3Borthokera= tology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). =3B People wear these hard lens= es at nighttime while they sleep. =3B =3BOrtho-k lenses reshape the= corneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery.&= nbsp=3B Research has found that some people respond to the =3Blenses al= most instantly and are able to see 20/20 the next day after =3Bwearing = them. =3B However=2C results are not the same for everyone=2C and the r= eshaping seems to only be temporary. =3B Furthermore=2C the cost of the= fitting for the lenses and the lenses themselves are still quite expensive= . =3B But at least vision correction may not require surgery!
 =3B
Angela Johnson
= --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_-- --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600 From: "Kimberlee Baker" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing. So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness. I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again? Or would their eyes just get even worse? I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older. Does anyone know if that is true? -Kim Baker ------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or would their eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker
------=_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600 From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" To: , Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First a class question: When are the mode postings due? I hope this isn't late but it is the = last day of the week. =20 =20 I am curious about retinal images. In chapter one, it states that "it = doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or = bottom..." My curiousity stems from the ideat that if it doesn't matter = then why does an image become upside down on the retina? And then how = does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive. Is this done = by the retina or our brain? I am sure the answer will come about during = the course. =20 Shonda Buckland =20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 8/30/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1178 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan) 2. Vision (Shambrae W) 3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van = Hove) 4. Test (Aaron Norton) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Bryan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting = already.=3DA0 Th=3D ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought = about =3D before.=3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye = system wor=3D ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D .=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and=3D magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is =3D severed.=3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and = allow =3D a body to touch or catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as = far as=3D form and color, is impressive.=3DA0=3D20 =3DA0 Lindsay Bryan=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
Learning about perception = and attention has been interesting already.  There are several = things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  = I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but = there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the = parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can = sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something = that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is = impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

=20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 From: "Shambrae W" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than = we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones = alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I = never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that = the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I found it interesting that bees see patterns and = different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, = if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they = don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision = that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
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     I = was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if = they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and = detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts = well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that = they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out = at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill = in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? = Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking = with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does = sensation?

=20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147-- -- __--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 -0600 From: "Aaron Norton" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Test Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is my first true neuropsychology class. So most of this stuff is = new to me. I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision. I understand = the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision? I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and = trying them out myself. ------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
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I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in = class and trying them out myself.
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lindsay Bryan = <luluneybin@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Cc: = luluneybin@yahoo.com
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: = perception and attention
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Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.=3DA0 Th=3D
ere are several things that I have = learned that I never even thought about =3D
before.=3DA0 I've always = had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system wor=3D
ks but there = were things brought up in class that I had never thought = about=3D
.=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the = parvocellular and=3D
 magnocellular pathways and what happens = when the parvocellular pathway is =3D
severed.=3DA0 The fact that the = brain can sense where something is and allow =3D
a body to touch or = catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as far = as=3D
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: = inherit;"><DIV>Learning about perception and attention has been = interesting already.&nbsp; There are several things that I have = learned that I never even thought about before.&nbsp; I've always = had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were = things brought up in class that I had never thought about.&nbsp; I = thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and = magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the brain can sense where something = is and allow a body to touch or catch something that&nbsp;it cannot = actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive.&nbsp; = </DIV>
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<DIV>Lindsay = Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 = -0600
From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] = Vision
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I found it interesting that = bees see patterns and different colors than we
do. Does anybody know = how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone
or if they = even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never
see = bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a = human beings vision that the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. = I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this = issue as well?

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<div = dir=3D"ltr"><div>I found it interesting that bees see patterns = and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision = works, if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I = assume they don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at = night. = </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also,= I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the = brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if = other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? = </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Shambrae = Will</div></div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 = 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove = <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" = <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 = first week: answer to bee question and more
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=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested in = one of the questions posted here on b=3D
ees and if they have both = rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D
und that because = rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = and=3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. = >From our class note=3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 = nm level and just up into th=3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they = detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D
ation of night = vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well = =3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it = may just =3D
be behavioural.
=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question = would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: = inherit;"><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was = very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if they = have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and = detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts = well, a foundation of night vision,&nbsp;which leads me to believe = that they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not = out at night, it may just be = behavioural.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= ;nbsp; My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do = they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this = ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain = damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does = sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>
<= BR>     
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 = -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
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This is my first true = neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new
to = me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral = vision.  I understand the
concept, but then why don't things go = gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the = examples we'll see in class and trying
them out = myself.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">This = is my first true neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff = is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little = more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral = vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&#39;t = things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m = definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in class = and trying them out = myself.<br></div>

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Hi Kim i read your message and just wanted to tell you that my brother when he was little he was far sighted well still is far sighted, but it did get worse as he got older. but i also heard that if you dont wear your glasses it would make your eyesight worse, because it puts to much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses.

i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems.

Makeon Hendrix

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Today's Topics:

   1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan)
   2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson)
   3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker)
   4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ultimate Film Fan <ultimatefilmfan@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post
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Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of =
Learning credit.=A0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed=
 so far in class.=0A=0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see
 =
color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed i=
n one of my early science classes.=A0 Apperently lawyers often try to trick=
 witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.=A0=
 i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the
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crime".=A0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense
attor=
ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=A0 I guess
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veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=0A=0AI've always
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found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to fu=
ture discussions both in class on on this board.=A0 I've enjoyed your
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primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.&nbsp; I too have
been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of the
corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my early
science classes.&nbsp; Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses into
stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.&nbsp; i.e.
"Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the
crime".&nbsp; Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the
defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial
vision.&nbsp; I guess
 everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors
me.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating
and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this board.&nbsp;
I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brent Cowley</DIV></div><br>

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From: Angela Johnson <lucky_lil_angel16@hotmail.com>
To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson)
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n other than using contacts=2C glasses=2C or Lasik.  I did a little researc=
h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested.  It co=
nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses).  People wear the=
se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep.  Ortho-k lenses reshape the c=
orneas without actually removing them=2C which is done in Lasik surgery.  R=
esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost instantly a=
nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them.  However=2C resul=
ts are not the same for everyone=2C and the reshaping seems to only be temp=
orary.  Furthermore=2C the cost of the fitting for the
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600
From: "Kimberlee Baker" <kimiko83@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Vision
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Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really
know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what
we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if
someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes
balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or would their
eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are
 nearsighted
when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does
anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker

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<div dir="ltr">Hopefully this works because I have never used
this before and don&#39;t really know what I am doing.&nbsp; So, after
class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about nearsighted and
farsightedness.&nbsp; I was wondering, if someone becomes near or farsighted
when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their
eyes change again?&nbsp; Or would their eyes just get even worse?&nbsp;
I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes
balance out  when they are older.&nbsp; Does anyone know if that
 is
true?<br>
<br>-Kim Baker<br></div>

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600
From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" <u0567832@utah.edu>
To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>,
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images
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First a class question:
When are the mode postings due?  I hope this isn't late but it is the =
last day of the week.   =20
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I am curious about retinal images.  In chapter one, it states that "it =
doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or =
bottom..."  My curiousity stems from the
 ideat that if it doesn't
matter =
then why does an image become upside down on the retina?  And then how =
does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive.  Is this done =
by the retina or our brain?  I am sure the answer will come about during =
the course.
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   1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan)
   2. Vision (Shambrae W)
   3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van =
Hove)
   4. Test (Aaron Norton)

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lindsay Bryan <luluneybin@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention
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already.=3DA0
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ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought =
about =3D
before.=3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye =
system wor=3D
ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =
about=3D
.=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and=3D
 magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway =
is =3D
severed.=3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and =
allow =3D
a body to touch or catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as =
far as=3D
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inherit;"><DIV>Learning about
 perception =
and attention has been interesting already.&nbsp; There are several =
things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.&nbsp; =
I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but =
there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =
about.&nbsp; I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the =
parvocellular pathway is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the brain can =
sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something =
that&nbsp;it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is =
impressive.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lindsay
Bryan</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 16:12:40 -0600
From: "Shambrae W" <sham.will@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Vision
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I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than =
we
do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones =
alone
or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I =
never
see bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that =
the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I found it interesting that bees
see patterns and =
different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, =
if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they =
don&#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at night. </div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision =
that the brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =
other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Shambrae Will</div></div>

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove
 <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu"
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and =
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ees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and =
fo=3D
und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =
and=3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
note=3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into =
th=3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a =
found=3D
ation of night vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe
 that they may very =
well =3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may =
just =3D
be behavioural.
=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question would be how do animals fill in the =
blindspot. Do =3D
they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =
ability =3D
of=3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can =
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inherit;"><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if =
they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that =
because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer
 than 640 nm and =
detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up =
into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =
well, a foundation of night vision,&nbsp;which leads me to believe that =
they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out =
at night, it may just be behavioural.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My question would be how do
animals fill =
in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? =
Also, can this ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking =
with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =
sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 22:19:58 -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
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This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is =
new
to me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =
concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral vision.  I understand =
the
concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and =
trying
them out myself.

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<div
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class.&nbsp; So =
most of this stuff is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help =
explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white =
at the peripheral vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why =
don&#39;t things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in =
class and trying them out myself.<br></div>

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quoted-printable<BR><BR>Learning about perception and attention has
been =
interesting already.=3DA0 Th=3D<BR>ere are several things that I have =
learned that I never even thought about =3D<BR>before.=3DA0 I've
always =
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system wor=3D<BR>ks but there =
were things brought up in class that I had never thought
 =
about=3D<BR>.=3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =
parvocellular and=3D<BR>&nbsp;magnocellular pathways and what happens
=
when the parvocellular pathway is =3D<BR>severed.=3DA0 The fact that the
=
brain can sense where something is and allow =3D<BR>a body to touch or =
catch something that=3DA0it cannot actually see, as far =
as=3D<BR>&nbsp;form and color, is =
impressive.=3DA0=3D20<BR>=3DA0<BR>Lindsay =
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inherit;"&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Learning about perception and
attention has been =
interesting
 already.&amp;nbsp; There are several things that I have =
learned that I never even thought about before.&amp;nbsp; I've always =
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but there were =
things brought up in class that I had never thought about.&amp;nbsp; I =
thought it was very interesting to learn about the parvocellular and =
magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway =
is severed.&amp;nbsp; The fact that the brain can sense where something =
is and allow a body to touch or catch something that&amp;nbsp;it cannot =
actually see, as far as form and color, is impressive.&amp;nbsp;
 =
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;Lindsay
=
Bryan&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR><BR>&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>--0-319371303-1220038141=3D:80632--<BR><B=
R>-- __--__-- <BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008
16:12:40 =
-0600<BR>From: "Shambrae W"
&lt;sham.will@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: [Psych3120] =
Vision<BR>Reply-To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047=
960223<BR>Content-Type: text/plain; =
charset=3DISO-8859-1<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding: =
7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>I found it
interesting that =
bees see
 patterns and different colors than we<BR>do. Does anybody know =
how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone<BR>or if they =
even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never<BR>see
=
bees out at night.<BR><BR>Also, I was interested in the blind spot
in a =
human beings vision that the<BR>brain fills in to complete the pattern. =
I was wondering if other animals<BR>such as dogs and cats have this =
issue as well?<BR><BR>Shambrae =
Will<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223<BR>Content-Type:
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7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>&lt;div =
dir=3D"ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;I found it interesting that
bees see patterns =
and different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision =
works, if it
 consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I =
assume they don&amp;#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at =
night. =
&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Also,=
 I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the =
brain fills in to complete&amp;nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =
other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? =
&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Shambrae
=
Will&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_19990_2023044.12200479=
60223--<BR><BR>-- __--__-- <BR><BR>Message:
3<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =
16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Annika Van Hove
 =
&lt;annivanhove@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To:
"psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" =
&lt;psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu&gt;<BR>Subject: [Psych3120]
Psych 3120 =
first week: answer to bee question and more<BR>Reply-To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>--0-266248466-1220054177=3D:16147<BR=
>Content-Type: text/plain; =
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quoted-printable<BR><BR>=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 I was very interested
in =
one of the questions posted here on b=3D<BR>ees and if they have both =
rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D<BR>und that because
=
rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =
and=3D<BR>&nbsp;detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have
rods. =
From our class note=3D<BR>s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300
=
nm level and just up
 into th=3D<BR>e reds around 600 nm. This means they
=
detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D<BR>ation of night =
vision,=3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well =
=3D<BR>have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it
=
may just =3D<BR>be behavioural.<BR>=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 My question
=
would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D<BR>they use their =
perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability =
=3D<BR>of=3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? =
Can brain dam=3D<BR>age hurt perception like it does =
sensation?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>--0-266248466-=
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valign=3D"top" style=3D"font: =
inherit;"&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
I was =
very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if they =
have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that =
because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =
detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =
notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up =
into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =
well, a foundation of night vision,&amp;nbsp;which leads me to believe =
that they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not =
out at night, it may just be =
behavioural.&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp=
;nbsp; My question would be
 how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =
they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =
ability of&amp;nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =
damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =
sensation?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR><=
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BR><BR>-- __--__-- <BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Fri,
29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 =
-0600<BR>From: "Aaron Norton"
&lt;norton.aaron@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: [Psych3120]
Test<BR>Reply-To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.122006=
9998795<BR>Content-Type: text/plain;
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charset=3DISO-8859-1<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding: =
7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>This is my first
true =
neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff is new<BR>to =
me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =
concept<BR>of things going black and white at the peripheral =
vision.&nbsp; I understand the<BR>concept, but then why don't
things go =
gray at the sides of my vision?<BR>I'm definitely looking forward to
the =
examples we'll see in class and trying<BR>them out =
myself.<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795<BR>Content-Typ=
e: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding: =
7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>&lt;div
dir=3D"ltr"&gt;This =
is my first true neuropsychology class.&amp;nbsp; So most
 of this stuff =
is new to me.&amp;nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little =
more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral =
vision.&amp;nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&amp;#39;t
=
things go gray at the sides of my
vision?&lt;br&gt;<BR>I&amp;#39;m =
definitely looking forward to the examples we&amp;#39;ll see in class =
and trying them out =
myself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>------=3D_Part_24702_11595414.122006=
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--0-1723291518-1220207102=:20900-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Aug 31 21:21:22 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Nicole Marie Barber) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:21:22 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1182 - 1 msg References: <200808311833.m7VIWZXA002177@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90BA7.22712E03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok so i am not sure if this is how i am supposed to do this so i guess = we will see if it works. lets just say i dont do too well with = computers... Anyways i thought that all of the previous posts have been = very interesting. also the lecture in class has really caught my = interest. What really made me think was the color spectrum in which we = are able to see different colors. I didnt know that animals saw = different colors and wavelengths. the whole concept of vision is very = intreaging and seems very compicated. Every since i was little i had a = specific question about vision and my teachers never quite answered it = for me. my question is: How do we know all humans see color the same? i = realize that colors give off certain wavelengths and that we know the = wavelengths for each color but how do we know that the color we actually = see is the same. what if my pink is another persons blue? but for them = they have been taught to call that color pink... this might be kind of = confusing i guess... but i guess im just wondering if everyone sees the = exact same colors or if everyone sees differently and calls them by what = they are taught....i hope that makes sense... ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sun 8/31/2008 12:32 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1182 - 1 msg Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." 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Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs (jake moss) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) From: jake moss To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Re: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-1723291518-1220207102=3D:20900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Hi Kim i read your message and just wanted to tell you that my brother when he was little he was far sighted well still is far sighted, but it did get worse as he got older. but i also heard that if you dont wear your glasses it would make your eyesight worse, because it puts to much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses. i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems. Makeon Hendrix --- On Sun, 8/31/08, psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu = wrote: From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu = Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1179 - 4 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:57 AM Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan) 2. Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) (Angela Johnson) 3. Vision (Kimberlee Baker) 4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) -- __--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate Film Fan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode = of =3D Learning credit.=3DA0 I too have been quite intrigued by the topics = discussed=3D so far in class.=3D0A=3D0AWhen discussing color and whether we can = really see =3D color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject = discussed i=3D n one of my early science classes.=3DA0 Apperently lawyers often try to = trick=3D witnesses into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their = eyes.=3DA0=3D i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of = the =3D crime".=3DA0 Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attor=3D ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.=3DA0 I = guess e=3D veryone tries to find loop holes, but this one floors me.=3D0A=3D0AI've = always =3D found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to = fu=3D ture discussions both in class on on this board.=3DA0 I've enjoyed your posts=3D so far, so keep up the great posts.=3D0A=3D0ABrent = Cowley=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
Like many of you I took this course primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning credit.  I too have been quite intrigued by the topics discussed so far in class.
 
When discussing color and whether we can really see color out of = the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one of my = early science classes.  Apperently lawyers often try to trick witnesses = into stating they saw crimes out of the corner of their eyes.  i.e. "Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the crime".  Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the defense attorney's prove that color cannot be seen in the perifrial vision.  I guess everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one = floors me.
 
I've always found vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to future discussions both in class on on this = board.  I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up the great posts.
 
Brent Cowley

--0-23670101-1220129276=3D:52259-- -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: Angela Johnson To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela Johnson) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik = surgery=3D2C =3D even though it was a bit disturbing. However=3D2C after hearing about = it=3D2C =3D I wondered if there were alternative methods of correcting a person's visio=3D n other than using contacts=3D2C glasses=3D2C or Lasik. I did a little = researc=3D h and found a new type of technology that is currently being tested. It = co=3D nsists of orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). People wear = the=3D se hard lenses at nighttime while they sleep. Ortho-k lenses reshape = the c=3D orneas without actually removing them=3D2C which is done in Lasik = surgery. R=3D esearch has found that some people respond to the lenses almost = instantly a=3D nd are able to see 20/20 the next day after wearing them. However=3D2C = resul=3D ts are not the same for everyone=3D2C and the reshaping seems to only be = temp=3D orary. Furthermore=3D2C the cost of the fitting for the lenses and the = lense=3D s themselves are still quite expensive. But at least vision correction = may=3D not require surgery! =3D20 Angela Johnson=3D --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found it very interesting to learn about the process of Lasik = surgery=3D2C =3D even though it was a bit disturbing. =3D3B However=3D2C after = hearing about=3D it=3D2C I wondered if there were =3D3Balternative methods of = correcting a =3D person's vision other than using contacts=3D2C glasses=3D2C or Lasik. =3D3B I=3D did a little research and found a new type of =3D3Btechnology =3D3Btha=3D t is currently being tested. =3D3B =3D3BIt consists of =3D3Borthokera=3D tology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses). =3D3B People wear these hard lens=3D es at nighttime while they sleep. =3D3B =3D3BOrtho-k lenses = reshape the=3D corneas without actually removing them=3D2C which is done in Lasik surgery.&=3D nbsp=3D3B Research has found that some people respond to = the =3D3Blenses al=3D most instantly and are able to see 20/20 the next day = after =3D3Bwearing =3D them. =3D3B However=3D2C results are not the same for everyone=3D2C = and the r=3D eshaping seems to only be temporary. =3D3B Furthermore=3D2C the cost = of the=3D fitting for the lenses and the lenses themselves are still quite = expensive=3D . =3D3B But at least vision correction may not require surgery!
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Angela Johnson
=3D --_3000d183-1b26-400a-bd5d-149b8b252108_-- -- __--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600 From: "Kimberlee Baker" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't = really know what I am doing. So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about = what we had learned about nearsighted and farsightedness. I was wondering, = if someone becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and their eyes change again? Or would = their eyes just get even worse? I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their eyes balance out when they are older. Does anyone know if that is true? -Kim Baker ------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hopefully this works because I have never used this before and don't really know what I am doing.  So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned about = nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if someone becomes near or = farsighted when they are young will their eyes balance out when they are older and = their eyes change again?  Or would their eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger = their eyes balance out when they are older.  Does anyone know if that is true?

-Kim Baker
------=3D_Part_20494_29013518.1220140972093-- -- __--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:51:59 -0600 From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" To: , Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C90B92.446899EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First a class question: When are the mode postings due? I hope this isn't late but it is the = =3D last day of the week. =3D20 =3D20 I am curious about retinal images. In chapter one, it states that "it = =3D doesn't matter whether the top of the world is represented in the top or = =3D bottom..." My curiousity stems from the ideat that if it doesn't matter =3D then why does an image become upside down on the retina? And then how = =3D does it turn it right side up so that it what we preceive. Is this done = =3D by the retina or our brain? I am sure the answer will come about during = =3D the course. =3D20 Shonda Buckland =3D20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of =3D psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 8/30/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1178 - 4 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention (Lindsay Bryan) 2. Vision (Shambrae W) 3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and more (Annika Van = =3D Hove) 4. Test (Aaron Norton) -- __--__--=20 Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lindsay Bryan To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: luluneybin@yahoo.com Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: perception and attention Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Learning about perception and attention has been interesting =3D already.=3D3DA0 Th=3D3D ere are several things that I have learned that I never even thought =3D about =3D3D before.=3D3DA0 I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye =3D system wor=3D3D ks but there were things brought up in class that I had never thought = =3D about=3D3D .=3D3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =3D parvocellular and=3D3D magnocellular pathways and what happens when the parvocellular pathway = =3D is =3D3D severed.=3D3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where something is and = =3D allow =3D3D a body to touch or catch something that=3D3DA0it cannot actually see, as = =3D far as=3D3D form and color, is impressive.=3D3DA0=3D3D20 =3D3DA0 Lindsay Bryan=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A =3D20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3Dus-ascii
Learning about perception =3D and attention has been interesting already.  There are several =3D things that I have learned that I never even thought about before.  = =3D I've always had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system works but = =3D there were things brought up in class that I had never thought =3D about.  I thought it was very interesting to learn about the =3D parvocellular and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the =3D parvocellular pathway is severed.  The fact that the brain can =3D sense where something is and allow a body to touch or catch something = =3D that it cannot actually see, as far as form and color, is =3D impressive. 
 
Lindsay Bryan

=3D20 --0-319371303-1220038141=3D3D:80632-- -- __--__--=20 Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:12:40 -0600 From: "Shambrae W" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Vision Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found it interesting that bees see patterns and different colors than = =3D we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones = =3D alone or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I =3D never see bees out at night. Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that = =3D the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? Shambrae Will ------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I found it interesting that bees see patterns and =3D different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a bees vision works, = =3D if it consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I assume they = =3D don't have rods because I never see bees out at night.
 
Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision = =3D that the brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if = =3D other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well?
 
Shambrae Will
------=3D3D_Part_19990_2023044.1220047960223-- -- __--__--=20 Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Annika Van Hove To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question and = =3D more Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 I was very interested in one of the = questions =3D posted here on b=3D3D ees and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and = =3D fo=3D3D und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm = =3D and=3D3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = =3D note=3D3D s, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into = =3D th=3D3D e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts well, a = =3D found=3D3D ation of night vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe that they may = very =3D well =3D3D have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, it may = =3D just =3D3D be behavioural. =3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My question would be how do animals fill in = the =3D blindspot. Do =3D3D they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D ability =3D3D of=3D3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? Can = =3D brain dam=3D3D age hurt perception like it does sensation?=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A = =3D20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3Dus-ascii
     I =3D was very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if = =3D they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that = =3D because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = =3D notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = =3D into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =3D well, a foundation of night vision, which leads me to believe that = =3D they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out = =3D at night, it may just be behavioural.
     My question would be how do animals fill =3D in the blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? = =3D Also, can this ability of ours to fill in blindspots be lacking =3D with brain damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =3D sensation?

=3D20 --0-266248466-1220054177=3D3D:16147-- -- __--__--=20 Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 -0600 From: "Aaron Norton" To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Test Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu ------=3D3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is my first true neuropsychology class. So most of this stuff is = =3D new to me. I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =3D concept of things going black and white at the peripheral vision. I understand = =3D the concept, but then why don't things go gray at the sides of my vision? I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in class and = =3D trying them out myself. ------=3D3D_Part_24702_11595414.1220069998795 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
This is my first true neuropsychology class.  So =3D most of this stuff is new to me.  I wonder if anyone can help =3D explain a little more the whole concept of things going black and white = =3D at the peripheral vision.  I understand the concept, but then why = =3D don't things go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the examples we'll see in =3D class and trying them out myself.
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I found it interesting that =3D bees see patterns and different colors than we
do. Does anybody know = =3D how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones alone
or if they =3D even have cones? I assume they don't have rods because I never
see =3D bees out at night.

Also, I was interested in the blind spot in a =3D human beings vision that the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. = =3D I was wondering if other animals
such as dogs and cats have this =3D issue as well?

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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also,= =3D I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the = =3D brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =3D other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue as well? =3D </div>
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =3D 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove =3D <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: "psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu" =3D <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 =3D first week: answer to bee question and more
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=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 I was very = interested in =3D one of the questions posted here on b=3D3D
ees and if they have both = =3D rods and cones. I did some online research and fo=3D3D
und that = because =3D rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =3D and=3D3D
 detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. =3D >From our class note=3D3D
s, bee vision goes all the way down to the = 300 =3D nm level and just up into th=3D3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means = they =3D detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D3D
ation of night =3D vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe that they may very well =3D =3D3D
have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out at night, = it =3D may just =3D3D
be behavioural.
=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My = question =3D would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D3D
they use = their =3D perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this ability =3D =3D3D
of=3D3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain = damage? =3D Can brain dam=3D3D
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<table cellspacing=3D3D"0" cellpadding=3D3D"0" =3D border=3D3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D3D"top" style=3D3D"font: =3D inherit;"><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was =3D very interested in one of the questions posted here on bees and if they = =3D have both rods and cones. I did some online research and found that =3D because rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =3D detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class = =3D notes, bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up = =3D into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue wavelenghts =3D well, a foundation of night vision,&nbsp;which leads me to believe = =3D that they may very well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not = =3D out at night, it may just be =3D behavioural.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D ;nbsp; My question would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D they use their perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D ability of&nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =3D damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =3D sensation?</DIV></td></tr></table><br>
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:19:58 =3D -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" <norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: =3D psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
Reply-To: =3D psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

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This is my first true =3D neuropsychology class.  So most of this stuff is new
to =3D me.  I wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole = =3D concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral =3D vision.  I understand the
concept, but then why don't things go =3D gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to the =3D examples we'll see in class and trying
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<div dir=3D3D"ltr">This =3D is my first true neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of this stuff = =3D is new to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help explain a little =3D more the whole concept of things going black and white at the peripheral = =3D vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why don&#39;t =3D things go gray at the sides of my vision?<br>
I&#39;m =3D definitely looking forward to the examples we&#39;ll see in class = =3D and trying them out =3D myself.<br></div>

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Hi Kim i read your message and = just wanted to tell you that my brother when he was little he was far sighted well still is far sighted, but it did get worse as he got older. but i also heard that if you dont wear your glasses it would make your eyesight worse, because it puts to much strain on your eyes, I don't know if that speaks for everyone, but for my brother his eyesight did get worse until he started wearing his glasses.

i was also wondering, sometimes i get really bad headaches, and when i was little i went to the eye doctor and the Doc said a possible reason why i get headaches all the time is that i am a little bit farsighted, i see fine, i dont need glasses, i dont think anyway, but i was just wondering if it was true, i know a doctor told me but i was just wondering if anyone else has had similar = problems.

Makeon Hendrix

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  1. Week 1 Post (Ultimate Film Fan)
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   3. Vision (Kimberlee =
Baker)
   4. Retina images (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:47:56 -0700 =
(PDT)
From: Ultimate Film Fan =
<ultimatefilmfan@yahoo.com>
To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Week 1 =
Post
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Like many of you I took this course primarily =
because it offered a Mode of =3D
Learning credit.=3DA0 I too have =
been quite intrigued by the topics discussed=3D
 so far in =
class.=3D0A=3D0AWhen discussing color and whether we can really see
 =3D
color out of the corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject =
discussed i=3D
n one of my early science classes.=3DA0 Apperently =
lawyers often try to trick=3D
 witnesses into stating they saw crimes =
out of the corner of their eyes.=3DA0=3D
 i.e. "Out of the corner of =
my eye I saw a blue car leave the scene of the
=3D
crime".=3DA0 =
Many cases have been lost or dismissed because the =
defense
attor=3D
ney's prove that color cannot be seen in the =
perifrial vision.=3DA0 I guess
e=3D
veryone tries to find loop =
holes, but this one floors me.=3D0A=3D0AI've always
=3D
found =
vision and how rods and cones work fascinating and look forward to =
fu=3D
ture discussions both in class on on this board.=3DA0 I've =
enjoyed your
posts=3D
 so far, so keep up the great =
posts.=3D0A=3D0ABrent Cowley=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A      =

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this course
primarily because it offered a Mode of Learning =
credit.&nbsp; I too have
been quite intrigued by the topics =
discussed so far in =
class.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Whe=
n discussing color and whether we can really see color out of =
the
corner of our eyes it reminded me of a subject discussed in one =
of my early
science classes.&nbsp; Apperently lawyers often try =
to trick witnesses into
stating they saw crimes out of the corner of =
their eyes.&nbsp; i.e.
"Out of the corner of my eye I saw a blue =
car leave the scene of the
crime".&nbsp; Many cases have been =
lost or dismissed because the
defense attorney's prove that color =
cannot be seen in the perifrial
vision.&nbsp; I guess
 everyone tries to find loop holes, but this one =
floors
me.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV=
>I've always found vision and how rods and cones work =
fascinating
and look forward to future discussions both in class on =
on this board.&nbsp;
I've enjoyed your posts so far, so keep up =
the great =
posts.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bre=
nt Cowley</DIV></div><br>

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Message: 2
From: Angela Johnson =
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To: =
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:20:56 =
-0600
Subject: [Psych3120] Alternative to Lasik surgery (Angela =
Johnson)
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psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

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Lasik.  I did a little researc=3D
h and found a new type of =
technology that is currently being tested.  It co=3D
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orthokeratology contact lenses (ortho-k lenses).  People wear =
the=3D
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reshape the c=3D
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done in Lasik surgery.  R=3D
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respond to the lenses almost instantly a=3D
nd are able to see 20/20 =
the next day after wearing them.  However=3D2C resul=3D
ts are not =
the same for everyone=3D2C and the reshaping seems to only be =
temp=3D
orary.  Furthermore=3D2C the cost of the fitting for the
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at least vision correction may=3D
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new
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currently being tested.&nbsp=3D3B&nbsp=3D3BIt =
consists
of&nbsp=3D3Borthokera=3D
tology contact lenses =
(ortho-k lenses).&nbsp=3D3B People wear these hard
lens=3D
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at nighttime while they sleep.&nbsp=3D3B&nbsp=3D3BOrtho-k lenses =
reshape
the=3D
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of
the=3D
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Message: =
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0600
From: "Kimberlee Baker" =
<kimiko83@gmail.com>
To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] =
Vision
Reply-To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu

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Hopefully this works because =
I have never used this before and don't really
know what I am doing.  =
So, after class on Thursday I was thinking about what
we had learned =
about nearsighted and farsightedness.  I was wondering, if
someone =
becomes near or farsighted when they are young will their =
eyes
balance out when they are older and their eyes change again?  Or =
would their
eyes just get even worse?  I have heard that when people =
are
 nearsighted
when they are younger their eyes balance out when they =
are older.  Does
anyone know if that is true?

-Kim =
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dir=3D"ltr">Hopefully this works because I have never used
this =
before and don&#39;t really know what I am doing.&nbsp; So, =
after
class on Thursday I was thinking about what we had learned =
about nearsighted and
farsightedness.&nbsp; I was wondering, if =
someone becomes near or farsighted
when they are young will their =
eyes balance out when they are older and their
eyes change =
again?&nbsp; Or would their eyes just get even worse?&nbsp;
I =
have heard that when people are nearsighted when they are younger their =
eyes
balance out  when they are older.&nbsp; Does anyone know if =
that
 is
true?<br>
<br>-Kim =
Baker<br></div>

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 =
11:51:59 -0600
From: "SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND" =
<u0567832@utah.edu>
To: =
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>,
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.e=
du>
Subject: [Psych3120] Retina images
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First a class question:
When are the mode =
postings due?  I hope this isn't late but it is the =3D
last day of =
the week.   =3D20
=3D20
I am curious about retinal images.  In =
chapter one, it states that "it =3D
doesn't matter whether the top of =
the world is represented in the top or =3D
bottom..."  My curiousity =
stems from the
 ideat that if it doesn't
matter =3D
then why does an image become =
upside down on the retina?  And then how =3D
does it turn it right =
side up so that it what we preceive.  Is this done =3D
by the retina =
or our brain?  I am sure the answer will come about during =3D
the =
course.
=3D20
Shonda =
Buckland

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   3. Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee =
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Hove)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Aug =
2008 12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lindsay Bryan =
<luluneybin@yahoo.com>
To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Cc: =
luluneybin@yahoo.com
Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 week 1: =
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thought =3D
about =3D3D
before.=3D3DA0 I've always had a very =
basic knowledge of how the eye =3D
system wor=3D3D
ks but there =
were things brought up in class that I had never thought =
=3D
about=3D3D
.=3D3DA0 I thought it was very interesting to learn =
about the =3D
parvocellular and=3D3D
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what happens when the parvocellular pathway =3D
is =
=3D3D
severed.=3D3DA0 The fact that the brain can sense where =
something is and =3D
allow =3D3D
a body to touch or catch =
something that=3D3DA0it cannot actually see, as =3D
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and attention has been interesting already.&nbsp; =
There are several =3D
things that I have learned that I never even =
thought about before.&nbsp; =3D
I've always had a very basic =
knowledge of how the eye system works but =3D
there were things =
brought up in class that I had never thought =3D
about.&nbsp; I =
thought it was very interesting to learn about the =3D
parvocellular =
and magnocellular pathways and what happens when the =
=3D
parvocellular pathway is severed.&nbsp; The fact that the =
brain can =3D
sense where something is and allow a body to touch or =
catch something =3D
that&nbsp;it cannot actually see, as far as =
form and color, is =3D
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 16:12:40 -0600
From: "Shambrae W" =
<sham.will@gmail.com>
To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] =
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I found it interesting that =
bees see patterns and different colors than =3D
we
do. Does =
anybody know how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones =
=3D
alone
or if they even have cones? I assume they don't have =
rods because I =3D
never
see bees out at night.

Also, I was =
interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that =
=3D
the
brain fills in to complete the pattern. I was wondering if =
other animals
such as dogs and cats have this issue as =
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see =
patterns and =3D
different colors than we do. Does anybody know how a =
bees vision works, =3D
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 I was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision =3D
that =
the brain fills in to complete&nbsp;the pattern. I was wondering if =
=3D
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</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Shambrae =
Will</div></div>

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Date: Fri, 29 Aug =
2008 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Annika Van Hove
 <annivanhove@yahoo.com>
To: =
"psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu"
<psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu><=
br>Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 first week: answer to bee question =
and =3D
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and if they have both rods and cones. I did some online research and =
=3D
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und that because rods are insensitive to wavelengths =
longer than 640 nm =3D
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 detect blue wavelengths best, =
bees probably have rods. From our class =3D
note=3D3D
s, bee =
vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up into =
=3D
th=3D3D
e reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue =
wavelenghts well, a =3D
found=3D3D
ation of night =
vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe
 that they may very =3D
well =3D3D
have rods as well as cones. For =
why they are not out at night, it may =3D
just =3D3D
be =
behavioural.
=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My question would be how do =
animals fill in the =3D
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they use their =
perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D
ability =
=3D3D
of=3D3DA0ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =
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;&nbsp; I =3D
was very interested in one of the questions posted =
here on bees and if =3D
they have both rods and cones. I did some =
online research and found that =3D
because rods are insensitive to =
wavelengths longer
 than 640 nm and =3D
detect blue wavelengths best, bees probably have =
rods. From our class =3D
notes, bee vision goes all the way down to =
the 300 nm level and just up =3D
into the reds around 600 nm. This =
means they detect blue wavelenghts =3D
well, a foundation of night =
vision,&nbsp;which leads me to believe that =3D
they may very =
well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not out =3D
at =
night, it may just be =
behavioural.</DIV>
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;nbsp; My question would be how do
animals fill =3D
in the =
blindspot. Do they use their perception to the same degree as us? =
=3D
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it does =
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Aug
 2008 22:19:58 -0600
From: "Aaron Norton" =
<norton.aaron@gmail.com>
To: =
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu
Subject: [Psych3120] Test
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to me.  I =
wonder if anyone can help explain a little more the whole =
=3D
concept
of things going black and white at the peripheral =
vision.  I understand =3D
the
concept, but then why don't things =
go gray at the sides of my vision?
I'm definitely looking forward to =
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to me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone can help =3D
explain a little =
more the whole concept of things going black and white =3D
at the =
peripheral vision.&nbsp; I understand the concept, but then why =
=3D
don&#39;t things go gray at the sides of my =
vision?<br>
I&#39;m definitely looking forward to the =
examples we&#39;ll see in =3D
class and trying them out =
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=3D
Norton)<BR><BR>--  __--__--
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1<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =
=3D
12:29:01 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Lindsay Bryan =
=3D
&lt;luluneybin@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To:
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ts.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Cc: =
=3D
luluneybin@yahoo.com<BR>Subject: [Psych3120] Psych 3120 =
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perception and attention<BR>Reply-To: =
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quoted-printable<BR><BR>Learning about perception and =
attention has
been =3D
interesting already.=3D3DA0 =
Th=3D3D<BR>ere are several things that I have =3D
learned that =
I never even thought about =3D3D<BR>before.=3D3DA0 I've
always =
=3D
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system =
wor=3D3D<BR>ks but there =3D
were things brought up in class =
that I had never thought
 =3D
about=3D3D<BR>.=3D3DA0 I thought it was very interesting =
to learn about the =3D
parvocellular =
and=3D3D<BR>&nbsp;magnocellular pathways and what =
happens
=3D
when the parvocellular pathway is =
=3D3D<BR>severed.=3D3DA0 The fact that the
=3D
brain can =
sense where something is and allow =3D3D<BR>a body to touch or =
=3D
catch something that=3D3DA0it cannot actually see, as far =
=3D
as=3D3D<BR>&nbsp;form and color, is =
=3D
impressive.=3D3DA0=3D3D20<BR>=3D3DA0<BR>Lindsay =
=3D
Bryan=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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inherit;"&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Learning =
about perception and
attention has been =3D
interesting
 already.&amp;nbsp; There are several things that I have =
=3D
learned that I never even thought about before.&amp;nbsp; =
I've always =3D
had a very basic knowledge of how the eye system =
works but there were =3D
things brought up in class that I had never =
thought about.&amp;nbsp; I =3D
thought it was very interesting to =
learn about the parvocellular and =3D
magnocellular pathways and what =
happens when the parvocellular pathway =3D
is severed.&amp;nbsp; =
The fact that the brain can sense where something =3D
is and allow a =
body to touch or catch something that&amp;nbsp;it cannot =
=3D
actually see, as far as form and color, is =
impressive.&amp;nbsp;
 =
=3D
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16:12:40 =
=3D
-0600<BR>From: "Shambrae =
W"
&lt;sham.will@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
=3D
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: [Psych3120] =
=3D
Vision<BR>Reply-To: =
=3D
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>------=3D3D_Part_=
19990_2023044.1220047=3D
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7bit<BR>Content-Disposition: inline<BR><BR>I =
found it
interesting that =3D
bees see
 patterns and different colors than we<BR>do. Does anybody know =
=3D
how a bees vision works, if it consists of cones =
alone<BR>or if they =3D
even have cones? I assume they don't =
have rods because I never<BR>see
=3D
bees out at =
night.<BR><BR>Also, I was interested in the blind spot
in =
a =3D
human beings vision that the<BR>brain fills in to =
complete the pattern. =3D
I was wondering if other =
animals<BR>such as dogs and cats have this =3D
issue as =
well?<BR><BR>Shambrae =
=3D
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=3D
dir=3D3D"ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;I found it interesting =
that
bees see patterns =3D
and different colors than we do. Does =
anybody know how a bees vision =3D
works, if it
 consists of cones alone or if they even have cones? I =3D
assume =
they don&amp;#39;t have rods because I never see bees out at =
=3D
night. =
=3D
&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>&lt;div&gt;&am=
p;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Also,=3D
 I =
was interested in the blind spot in a human beings vision that the =
=3D
brain fills in to complete&amp;nbsp;the pattern. I was =
wondering if =3D
other animals such as dogs and cats have this issue =
as well? =
=3D
&lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&am=
p;lt;/div&gt;<BR>&lt;div&gt;Shambrae
=3D
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3<BR>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 =
=3D
16:56:17 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Annika Van Hove
 =
=3D
&lt;annivanhove@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>To:
"psych3120@l=
ists.csbs.utah.edu" =
=3D
&lt;psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu&gt;<BR>Subject: =
[Psych3120]
Psych 3120 =3D
first week: answer to bee question and =
more<BR>Reply-To: =
=3D
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR><BR>--0-266248466-122=
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I was very interested
in =3D
one of the questions posted here on =
b=3D3D<BR>ees and if they have both =3D
rods and cones. I did =
some online research and fo=3D3D<BR>und that =
because
=3D
rods are insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm =
=3D
and=3D3D<BR>&nbsp;detect blue wavelengths best, bees =
probably have
rods. =3D
From our class note=3D3D<BR>s, bee =
vision goes all the way down to the 300
=3D
nm level and just up
 into th=3D3D<BR>e reds around 600 nm. This means =
they
=3D
detect blue wavelenghts well, a found=3D3D<BR>ation =
of night =3D
vision,=3D3DA0which leads me to believe that they may =
very well =3D
=3D3D<BR>have rods as well as cones. For why they =
are not out at night, it
=3D
may just =3D3D<BR>be =
behavioural.<BR>=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0=3D3DA0 My =
question
=3D
would be how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =
=3D3D<BR>they use their =3D
perception to the same degree as =
us? Also, can this ability =3D
=3D3D<BR>of=3D3DA0ours to fill =
in blindspots be lacking with brain damage? =3D
Can brain =
dam=3D3D<BR>age hurt perception like it does =
=3D
sensation?=3D3D0A=3D3D0A=3D3D0A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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mp;amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
I was =3D
very interested in one of the =
questions posted here on bees and if they =3D
have both rods and =
cones. I did some online research and found that =3D
because rods are =
insensitive to wavelengths longer than 640 nm and =3D
detect blue =
wavelengths best, bees probably have rods. From our class =3D
notes, =
bee vision goes all the way down to the 300 nm level and just up =
=3D
into the reds around 600 nm. This means they detect blue =
wavelenghts =3D
well, a foundation of night =
vision,&amp;nbsp;which leads me to believe =3D
that they may very =
well have rods as well as cones. For why they are not =3D
out at =
night, it may just be =
=3D
behavioural.&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&=
amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp=3D
;nbsp; My question =
would be
 how do animals fill in the blindspot. Do =3D
they use their =
perception to the same degree as us? Also, can this =3D
ability =
of&amp;nbsp;ours to fill in blindspots be lacking with brain =
=3D
damage? Can brain damage hurt perception like it does =
=3D
sensation?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&g=
t;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<BR><=3D
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29 Aug 2008 =
22:19:58 =3D
-0600<BR>From: "Aaron =
Norton"
&lt;norton.aaron@gmail.com&gt;<BR>To: =
=3D
psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu<BR>Subject: =
[Psych3120]
Test<BR>Reply-To: =
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is my first
true =3D
neuropsychology class.&nbsp; So most of =
this stuff is new<BR>to =3D
me.&nbsp; I wonder if anyone =
can help explain a little more the whole =3D
concept<BR>of =
things going black and white at the peripheral =3D
vision.&nbsp; =
I understand the<BR>concept, but then why don't
things go =
=3D
gray at the sides of my vision?<BR>I'm definitely looking =
forward to
the =3D
examples we'll see in class and =
trying<BR>them out =
=3D
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dir=3D3D"ltr"&gt;This =
=3D
is my first true neuropsychology class.&amp;nbsp; So most
 of this stuff =3D
is new to me.&amp;nbsp; I wonder if anyone can =
help explain a little =3D
more the whole concept of things going =
black and white at the peripheral =3D
vision.&amp;nbsp; I =
understand the concept, but then why don&amp;#39;t
=3D
things =
go gray at the sides of =
my
vision?&lt;br&gt;<BR>I&amp;#39;m =
=3D
definitely looking forward to the examples we&amp;#39;ll see =
in class =3D
and trying them out =
=3D
myself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<BR><BR>-=
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