From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Nov 1 00:04:18 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kyle Patton) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:04:18 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] Human Factors Message-ID: <43019307-C371-45B8-AABC-89FAB21679DB@gmail.com> I work in a radiation oncology clinic, where we treat men diagnosed with prostate cancer with high dose radiation. I was talking to one of our medical physicists the other day about the readings which were assigned during the human factors lectures. The section was titled "set phasers on stun" and when I started describing the incident he immediately recognized it. He said that all physicists are given the case to read, in order to make them more aware of the problems that can happen. There are several things that we do in our clinic, which are meant as defenses to close holes which might contribute to an incident, as described in the swiss cheese model of human error. This theory states that although an unsafe act causes an error, this act is preceded by latent failures such as organizational flaws, unsafe supervision, and other preconditions for unsafe acts. When the physicists in our clinic arrive at the beginning of the day, the machine is inspected, and a trial run is initiated. Before any radiation plans can start the doctor must approve the patients plan, that it is indeed the patient in the treatment area, that the physicist has the correct dosage, and that all the connections are attached properly. This is to ensure that no unseen errors are slipping past the physicist. However, my co-worker said that even taking shortcuts on seemingly insignificant things can cause major problems. For example, after every treatment the physicist will survey the patient and machine to make sure that the radioactive seed (it's very small about the size of a grain of rice) is back in the machine, and nowhere in or around the patient. It's so rare that the seed will come unattached from it's cable (it's laser welded on) that on one occasion a physicist went to survey the patient and didn't have batteries in his geiger counter. We also have a radiation meter that reads all of the radiation in the treatment room (this also happened to be broken..swiss cheese model). The physicist made a poor decision, and didn't replace the batteries in the geiger so that the patient could be surveyed. It turns out that on this particular treatment the radioactive seed had come off of the cable and came loose inside of the patient. Subsequently the patient died from radiation poisoning several months later. This example, really helped me understand the swiss cheese model of human error, and how important it is that we put checks and monitoring into place to keep incidents or even worse catastrophes from happening. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Nov 1 14:47:42 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Russell Armstrong) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Psych3120] The Memory of a rat Message-ID: <747244.65822.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-2111471596-1225550862=:65822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was reading the news a short bit ago and read an interesting article about how they have taken the memories of rats and erased certain parts of their LTM. They would inject a substance into the hippocampus called ZIP and found it would erase something recently learned without affecting STM or other LTM. I found this very interesting as they talked about how they really don't understand in general how memory completely works and where it exactly happens and is stored, but now they understand the hipposcampus has a lot to do with learning and memory. This research could be helpful as they might be able to eventually apply it to understand what happens to people with disease that affect memory and LTM. I think we will continue to see this research grow. --0-2111471596-1225550862=:65822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I was reading the news a short bit ago and read an interesting article about how they have taken the memories of rats and erased certain parts of their LTM. They would inject a substance into the hippocampus called ZIP and found it would erase something recently learned without affecting STM or other LTM. I found this very interesting as they talked about how they really don't understand in general how memory completely works and where it exactly happens and is stored, but now they understand the hipposcampus has a lot to do with learning and memory. This research could be helpful as they might be able to eventually apply it to understand what happens to people with disease that affect memory and LTM. I think we will continue to see this research grow.

--0-2111471596-1225550862=:65822-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 2 01:48:09 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (William Curtis) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:48:09 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] POC curves William Curtis Message-ID: --_bddf989a-99de-4391-86cd-d4663cb9d128_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know we just had the test and we really didnt need to know about these cu= rves but I want to make sure that I have this right for furture use. A POC= curve just says that we task a and task b are competeing for cognitive res= ources and that these cognitive resources are limited in nature. So one of= the tasks will suffer as attention is divided between them. This is cogni= tive bias? And then with enough practice this cognitive bias will be elimi= nated or reduced. Is that right? =20 Thanks Will Curtis _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are part= of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/= --_bddf989a-99de-4391-86cd-d4663cb9d128_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know we just had the test and we really didnt need to know abou= t these curves but I want to make sure that I have this right for furture u= se. =3B A POC curve just says that we task a and task b are competeing = for cognitive resources and that these cognitive resources are limited in n= ature. =3B So one of the tasks will suffer as attention is divided betw= een them. =3B This is cognitive bias? =3B And then with enough prac= tice this cognitive bias will be eliminated or reduced. =3B Is that rig= ht?
 =3B
Thanks
Will Curtis



See how Windows connects the people=2C informati= on=2C and fun that are part of your life. See Now = --_bddf989a-99de-4391-86cd-d4663cb9d128_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 03:21:08 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (braden parker) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:21:08 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <1047fb640811021921h11c7020bhb4df6fa36cd9057a@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_99703_32215512.1225682468547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I study for a test, I like to study a week before the exam. This puts much of the information into my Long-Term Memory. I then review little by little through out the week to refresh my memory. Then the night before the test I review all of the material to catch anything I might have missed before and to solidify the information into my Long-Term Memory. This method has seemed to help me. Brade Johnson Parker ------=_Part_99703_32215512.1225682468547 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline When I study for a test, I like to study a week before the exam.  This puts much of the information into my Long-Term Memory.  I then review little by little through out the week to refresh my memory.  Then the night before the test I review all of the material to catch anything I might have missed before and to solidify the information into my Long-Term Memory.  This method has seemed to help me.
Brade Johnson Parker
------=_Part_99703_32215512.1225682468547-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 03:37:43 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Geoff Sink) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:37:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Re: POC curves In-Reply-To: <200811021904.mA2J48sV010987@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <337331.72144.qm@web33804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From what I understand, POC curves show the level of performance (whether good or poor) when two tasks occur at the same time. In most scenarios, you can't do perfect on task A without having performance on task B suffer. This is called the cost of concurrence. There seems to be some finite amount of resources that can be devoted to attention. But, from what was said in class, some people can train themselves to do two things at the same time, like reading while playing the piano. I think these POC curves are a demonstration of divided attention. This concept is pretty confusing to me too and although I had the graph in my notes it still took me a while to decipher it. I hope that helps. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 05:02:06 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Umair Naveed) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:02:06 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Frontal Lobe Impairments Message-ID: ------=_Part_69834_28701594.1225688526906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I liked the lecture on Tuesday about frontal lobe damage, environmental dependency syndrome, and some of the other related subjects. It was interesting to hear about the various effects frontal lobe damage can have. After some further reading, some of the things that stood out to me were impairments in socialization, risk taking and rule abiding. It made me wonder what, if any, research there is on frontal lobe function/size/impairment of "career criminals". ------=_Part_69834_28701594.1225688526906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I liked the lecture on Tuesday about frontal lobe damage, environmental dependency syndrome, and some of the other related subjects.  It was interesting to hear about the various effects frontal lobe damage can have.  After some further reading, some of the things that stood out to me were impairments in socialization, risk taking and rule abiding.  It made me wonder what, if any, research there is on frontal lobe function/size/impairment of "career criminals".   ------=_Part_69834_28701594.1225688526906-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 05:08:09 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Chase Bullock) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:08:09 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] week 10 entry Message-ID: <987EBE3207186A4EAFF1BA0F6334697D0C460B@CAMPUSV1.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D72.29BED027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are many people born with executive functioning problems? It seemed to = me that most problems with executive functions are from frontal lobe = damage or from getting older. Is there any certain conditions from birth = that would be considered executive functioning problems? robbie bullock ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D72.29BED027 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable week 10 entry

Are many people born with executive functioning = problems?  It seemed to me that most problems with executive = functions are from frontal lobe damage or from getting older. Is there = any certain conditions from birth that would be considered executive = functioning problems?
robbie bullock

------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D72.29BED027-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 06:00:13 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reece Ivins) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:00:13 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] The ramblings of an old behaviorist Message-ID: <48c8e1ce0811022200k7a960f0ei34e2c850e48e95ca@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_50542_30372687.1225692013441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Excuse my B.F. Skinner, but I love the way that the text book starts out bashing on the behaviorism model. I have had the same lecture from the other side stating the failures of personality theory and developmental theory and cognitive theory. I think that most of us find ourselves in the balance of the different theories and schools, taking a little bit from each. Even theories that seem outlandish and outdated such as Freud have merit in my book (defense mechanisms for example). Where behaviorism has most of the schools beat is the simple fact that no experiment can be performed or gather any data without measuring or observing BEHAVIOR. A person or creature must act to be observed. For example, in the driving and talking on a cell phone experiments, we are really observing behaviors of people while being bombarded by multiple stimuli. All we really have is quantitative data stating how people performed. Does this give us license to state some theory of selective or divided attention, or do we merely have a set of behaviors within a specific environment. What would happen if we had a person without a driver license, or who had never driven before? How would they perform? Would someone with a higher aptitude for driving be able to perform better while on the phone than others on the phone? Basic behaviors can be observed but can be confounded by a myriad of things. Would someone behave differently if they didn't know they were being watched? It has also been shown that people who drive a specific route regularly are able to drive just fine while distracted because it is in their memory, aka they learned the route and behavior through repetition and the reinforcement of getting where they want to go. It is a tangled net to get into to be sure, and if any one actually reads this they might think this is just rambling. But where one method or theory fails, another might explain it better, and vice-versa. Understanding where the theories intersect and interact can expand our ability to apply principles as they become more complete. No one science has the whole picture. ------=_Part_50542_30372687.1225692013441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Excuse my B.F. Skinner, but I love the way that the text book starts out ba= shing on the behaviorism model.  I have had the same lecture from the = other side stating the failures of personality theory and developmental the= ory and cognitive theory.  I think that most of us find ourselves in t= he balance of the different theories and schools, taking a little bit from = each.  Even theories that seem outlandish and outdated such as Freud h= ave merit in my book (defense mechanisms for example).  Where behavior= ism has most of the schools beat is the simple fact that no experiment can = be performed or gather any data without measuring or observing BEHAVIOR.&nb= sp; A person or creature must act to be observed.  For example, in the= driving and talking on a cell phone experiments, we are really observing b= ehaviors of people while being bombarded by multiple stimuli.  All we = really have is quantitative data stating how people performed. Does this gi= ve us license to state some theory of selective or divided attention, or do= we merely have a set of behaviors within a specific environment.  Wha= t would happen if we had a person without a driver license, or who had neve= r driven before?  How would they perform?  Would someone with a h= igher aptitude for driving be able to perform better while on the phone tha= n others on the phone?  Basic behaviors can be observed but can be con= founded by a myriad of things.  Would someone behave differently if th= ey didn't know they were being watched?  It has also been shown th= at people who drive a specific route regularly are able to drive just fine = while distracted because it is in their memory, aka they learned the route = and behavior through repetition and the reinforcement of getting where they= want to go. 

It is a tangled net to get into to be sure, and if any one actually rea= ds this they might think this is just rambling.  But where one method = or theory fails, another might explain it better, and vice-versa.  Und= erstanding where the theories intersect and interact can expand our ability= to apply principles as they become more complete.  No one science has= the whole picture.
------=_Part_50542_30372687.1225692013441-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 06:06:39 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alex Ryan Janak) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:06:39 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] week 10 post Message-ID: <10D182F71B23304495DE115306E3EDB9218E7E@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D7A.5607F74D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From tuesday's lecture on Dr. P and executive functions, I thought the = topic of Environmental Dependency Syndrome was very intriguing. It = seems so odd that a small malfunction in executive control can cause a = person to behave so vastly different than an unaffected person would in = the same social context. I would be interested in learning more about = this syndrome and its different effects on people who have it. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D7A.5607F74D Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable week 10 post

From tuesday's lecture on Dr. P and executive = functions, I thought the topic of Environmental Dependency Syndrome was = very intriguing.  It seems so odd that a small malfunction in = executive control can cause a person to behave so vastly different than = an unaffected person would in the same social context.  I would be = interested in learning more about this syndrome and its different = effects on people who have it.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D7A.5607F74D-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 07:45:17 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:45:17 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] cognitive bias shonda buckland References: <200811021903.mA2J37ne010956@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <5D50840A9272CF4694EF4728F6FD0584561C9A@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D88.1D29F396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is what I understood for the text as well. For instance, (I think = this is a good example) you can think of it as typing and reading. Once = you have learned where the keys are on your computer, you should be able = to read and not think about the keys while you are reading what it is = you are typing. Also something that I noticed I am very good at is = typing, reading what I need to type while taking phones and carrying on = meaningful conversations on the phone. At first, you will struggle or = produce errors while doing both because task a and task b may not be = refined and needs/competes for your attention. Once you have practiced = both skills both tasks are easier while doing them at the same time. = However, either of the tasks may still have errors because you may be = providing more attention to task a and not task b. =20 I hope I am not wrong but that is how I understood the POC. ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sun 11/2/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1302 - 1 msg Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. POC curves William Curtis (William Curtis) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: William Curtis To: Psych Mode Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:48:09 -0600 Subject: [Psych3120] POC curves William Curtis Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_bddf989a-99de-4391-86cd-d4663cb9d128_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know we just had the test and we really didnt need to know about these = cu=3D rves but I want to make sure that I have this right for furture use. A = POC=3D curve just says that we task a and task b are competeing for cognitive = res=3D ources and that these cognitive resources are limited in nature. So one = of=3D the tasks will suffer as attention is divided between them. This is = cogni=3D tive bias? And then with enough practice this cognitive bias will be = elimi=3D nated or reduced. Is that right? =3D20 Thanks Will Curtis _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people=3D2C information=3D2C and fun that = are part=3D of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/=3D --_bddf989a-99de-4391-86cd-d4663cb9d128_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know we just had the test and we really didnt need to know = abou=3D t these curves but I want to make sure that I have this right for = furture u=3D se. =3D3B A POC curve just says that we task a and task b are = competeing =3D for cognitive resources and that these cognitive resources are limited = in n=3D ature. =3D3B So one of the tasks will suffer as attention is divided = betw=3D een them. =3D3B This is cognitive bias? =3D3B And then with = enough prac=3D tice this cognitive bias will be eliminated or reduced. =3D3B Is = that rig=3D ht?
 =3D3B
Thanks
Will Curtis



See how Windows connects the people=3D2C = informati=3D on=3D2C and fun that are part of your life. 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(psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post Message-ID: <20081103101127.4n2nkxsticc0ow4s@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> This message is in MIME format. --=_6s3g6oto5dkw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a scientific reason for this. 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My grandmother would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Is there a reason = behind the elderly having no tact?  My grandmother would often say = very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times.  = maybe this has something to do with filtering and the possibility that = it's effectivness decreases with age.  she didn't suffer from = dementia or alzhiemers.  just wondered if there was a scientific = reason for this.  Is this related to the normal = decreases?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C-- --=_6s3g6oto5dkw-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 17:28:57 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Deus, Rachelle) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post In-Reply-To: <20081103101127.4n2nkxsticc0ow4s@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Well didn't Ann say that as we get older the volume of our frontal lobe decreases (the connections decay) and so the elderly would have some of the same symptoms/actions as someone with frontal lobe damage, meaning that their filter would function worse (per say) than an average person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tuesday's lecture.... Rachelle Park -----Original Message----- From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:11 AM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases? ----- End forwarded message ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individuals or entities to whom they are addressed and are not to be disclosed to any other party. If you have received this email in error please return it to the sender, and erase any copies thereof. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 3 23:56:02 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory, test 2 (Eric Gully) Message-ID: <110320082356.25912.490F8F9200072A4B0000653822058860149704049A09060A@comcast.net> The material covered on test 2 was pretty interesting it gave me a greater perspective on how memory works. I never knew that there were so many different "stores", places to hold different memories. It was kind of a difficult test for me, The short answer questions always snag me. Anyway, the Brown-Peterson task that was discussed and shown on the slides was one of the more intriguing tasks. If I was the confederate participating in the task, I would think it would be quite difficult to remember those 3 numbers. I suppose that there are individuals out there that just have a great memory and can keep items in short-term memory for a bit, but for me If I don't constantly think of the material it just floats right away. The way Waugh and Norman countered the procedure was also interesting in the way that they devised their procedure around a string of digits versus 3 digits. Both of the tests seem pretty valid, and would take a lot of work to develop. This class is challengi ng, but I'm glad it is so when its all said and done I will walk away knowing something. Thanks, Eric Gully From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 4 01:47:52 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Nicole Marie Barber) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:47:52 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs References: <200811031908.mA3J7gYV028305@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93E1F.CE0B381A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so over all i thought the test last week went really well. the review = session really helped. there are a few things that i am still a little = confused on and maybe someone can clarify them for me. the first = question i have is: is the multi-store model and the working memory = model the same thing...just that the working memory model is more = detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure thats what = they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find in my notes = either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based or object based = attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i dont remember/ couldnt make = sense of them and was really confused on that question. ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Mon 11/3/2008 12:07 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu) 2. RE: Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (Deus, Rachelle) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0700 From: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This message is in MIME format. --=3D_6s3g6oto5dkw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; DelSp=3D"Yes"; format=3D"flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=20 would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=20 inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=20 and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=20 didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=20 a scientific reason for this. 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My grandmother = would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very = inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and = the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't = suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a = scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases? ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D
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------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C-- --=3D_6s3g6oto5dkw-- --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500 From: "Deus, Rachelle" To: Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Well didn't Ann say that as we get older the volume of our frontal lobe decreases (the connections decay) and so the elderly would have some of the same symptoms/actions as someone with frontal lobe damage, meaning that their filter would function worse (per say) than an average person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tuesday's lecture.... =20 Rachelle Park -----Original Message----- From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:11 AM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=20 would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=20 inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=20 and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=20 didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=20 a scientific reason for this. 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I have heard mixed messages = regarding hypnosis from it being a complete crock to an effective = therapy tool. 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Even though we learned about Primacy and Recency for our last exam, it's still cool to me that we can learn something in the classroom and apply it to everyday life.  I was offered some lunch choices over the phone today.  There were about 10 choices read to me - all in consecutive order.  I heard all of the choices but none of them really registered except the first choices and the last choices.  So I ordered what I could remember, which was the first option and the last option.  When I got to where I was going and read the lunch choices for myself, there were choices I would much rather of had, but since I didn't 'hear' them - I could only choose from the first and last choices offered.  

--0-1695356650-1225832953=:88035-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 4 21:32:21 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Heather Oldroyd) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] 10 Heather Oldroyd Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EC4.D222CE6E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Memory- I love learning about the memory, it is a very multifaceted subject. I agree with the research that has shown, when memorizing things or subjects to attach them to a meaning or emotion to help you remember. At first this seems more difficult, because now you have to remember two meanings. One trick I have used, it to use meanings and memories I am most familiar with, or if you're studying for a test you can use a visual reminder in the classroom to help you. Although, if you don't write down exactly what and how you are remembering something (say with an acronym), and you are disrupted or you don't give yourself enough time to remember the acronym it could make matter much worst, during the test you might only remember the acronym and not class work that goes with it. =20 Heather Oldroyd=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Memory- I love learning about the memory, it is a very multifaceted subject. I agree = with the research that has shown, when memorizing things or subjects to attach = them to a meaning or emotion to help you remember.  At first this seems more difficult, because now you have to remember two meanings.  One = trick I have used, it to use meanings and memories I am most familiar with, or if = you’re studying for a test you can use a visual reminder in the classroom to = help you.  Although, if you don’t write down exactly what and how you are remembering something (say with an acronym), and you are disrupted or = you don’t give yourself enough time to remember the acronym it could make matter = much worst, during the test you might only remember the acronym and not class = work that goes with it.  

Heather Oldroyd

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EC4.D222CE6E-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 4 21:52:40 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Nicole Tucker) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:52:40 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] memory impairments in HM , Clive In-Reply-To: <200811041904.mA4J3YWS009754@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200811041904.mA4J3YWS009754@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_a5d69364-3be7-499f-babf-0e09ad37a996_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The lecture and video we watched in class today was interesting. Clive in particular was a very interesting topic. It was crazy to see that he knew and recognized his wife and that he could remember how to play the piano and conduct music=2C but he couldnt remember=20 what happened a minute ago or where he was or how he got there.=20 I cant imagine how hard that would be. Your quality of life would be =20 more than cut in half. I cant imagine what it would be like for his wife=20 either ( i think that was his wife).He didnt even remember that he had =20 talked to her earlier in the day. Every time he see's her he thinks its for the first time in a long time.It would be so strange to feel like you have= =20 been unconscious and that you have just woken up and just had your=20 first taste=2C smell=2C touch=2C etc. I thought it was very interesting tha= t he=20 would even read his diary and see that he had written the same things over and over again=2C but he thought for sure he must have been unconscious when he wrote them. He couldnt even grasp what was going on and what condition he has. What a challenge! This video really opened my eyes to how much we really do take our memory for granted and what life would be like without parts of our memory being able to function. =20 Has anyone seen the movie 50 first dates? This video kind of reminded me of that and how the girl in the movie has a memory problem too. There is also a guy that only has a memory of 10 seconds so he will say " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?" and just when you finish saying who you are he says " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?" > Date: Tue=2C 4 Nov 2008 1= 2:03:34 -0700> From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: Psych3= 120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1305 - 3 msgs> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > Se= nd Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > = To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C visit> http://lists.c= sbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or=2C via email=2C send a message with= subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > You ca= n reach the person managing the list at> psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.ed= u> > When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it is more specific>= than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. 9th = post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully) (ejgully@comcast.net)> 2. RE: Psych3120= digest=2C Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs (Nicole Marie Barber)> 3. LTM Access (James= Coleman)> > --__--__--> > Message: 1> From: ejgully@comcast.net> To: psych= 3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000> Subject:= [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully)> Reply-To: psych3120@l= ists.csbs.utah.edu> > > The material covered on test 2 was pretty interesti= ng it gave me a greater perspective on how memory works. I never knew that = there were so many different "stores"=2C places to hold different memories.= It was kind of a difficult test for me=2C The short answer questions alway= s snag me. Anyway=2C the Brown-Peterson task that was discussed and shown o= n the slides was one of the more intriguing tasks. If I was the confederate= participating in the task=2C I would think it would be quite difficult to = remember those 3 numbers. I suppose that there are individuals out there th= at just have a great memory and can keep items in short-term memory for a b= it=2C but for me If I don't constantly think of the material it just floats= right away. The way Waugh and Norman countered the procedure was also inte= resting in the way that they devised their procedure around a string of dig= its versus 3 digits. Both of the tests seem pretty valid=2C and would take = a lot of work to develop. This class is challengi> ng=2C but I'm glad it is= so when its all said and done I will walk away knowing something. > > Than= ks=2C Eric Gully> > --__--__--> > Message: 2> Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 18:47= :52 -0700> From: "Nicole Marie Barber" > To: > Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1= 304 - 2 msgs> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > This is a multi-pa= rt message in MIME format.> > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93E1F.CE0B381A> Co= ntent-Type: text/plain=3B> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"> Content-Transfer-Encodin= g: quoted-printable> > so over all i thought the test last week went really= well. the review =3D> session really helped. there are a few things that i= am still a little =3D> confused on and maybe someone can clarify them for = me. the first =3D> question i have is: is the multi-store model and the wor= king memory =3D> model the same thing...just that the working memory model = is more =3D> detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure tha= ts what =3D> they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find in= my notes =3D> either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based or object b= ased =3D> attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i dont remember/ could= nt make =3D> sense of them and was really confused on that question.> > ___= _____________________________> > From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu = on behalf of =3D> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Sent: Mon 11/3/200= 8 12:07 PM> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: Psych3120 digest=2C= Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs> > > > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> ps= ych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wi= de Web=2C visit> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or=2C v= ia email=2C send a message with subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-reques= t@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > You can reach the person managing the list at> psy= ch3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > When replying=2C please edit your Subje= ct line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest...">= > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (ann.lamber= t@psych.utah.edu)> 2. RE: Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (Deus=2C Rac= helle)> > -- __--__-- > > Message: 1> Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -07= 00> From: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Su= bject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post> Reply-To: psych312= 0@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > This message is in MIME format.> > --=3D3D_6s3g6ot= o5dkw> Content-Type: text/plain=3B> charset=3D3DISO-8859-1=3B> DelSp=3D3D"Y= es"=3B> format=3D3D"flowed"> Content-Disposition: inline> Content-Transfer-= Encoding: 7bit> > > > ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu = -----> Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700> From: GRETCHEN CASTO > Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO > Sub= ject: mode response> To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu> > Is there a reason be= hind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20> would often say very = inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20> inappropriate times. maybe thi= s has something to do with filtering=3D20> and the possibility that it's ef= fectivness decreases with age. she=3D20> didn't suffer from dementia or alz= hiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20> a scientific reason for this. 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My gran= dmother =3D> would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very = =3D> inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and= =3D> the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't= =3D> suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a =3D>= scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases?> > --= ----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C> Content-Type: text/html=3B> char= set=3D3Diso-8859-1> Content-Disposition: inline> Content-Transfer-Encoding:= quoted-printable> > =3D3D0A=3D3D> charset=3D3D3Dunicod= e">=3D3D0A=3D3D> name=3D3= D3DGENERATOR>=3D3D0A=3D3D> =3D3D0A=3D3D>
Is there a reason =3D> =3D3D> behin= d the elderly having no tact? =3B My grandmother would often say =3D> = =3D3D> very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times.&nbs= p=3B =3D> =3D3D> maybe this has something to do with filtering and the poss= ibility that =3D> =3D3D> it's effectivness decreases with age. =3B she = didn't suffer from =3D3D> dementia or alzhiemers. =3B just wondered if = there was a scientific =3D> =3D3D> reason for this. =3B Is this related= to the normal =3D3D> decreases?
> ------_=3D3D_N= extPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C--> > --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw--> > > -- __--__-- = > > Message: 2> Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Po= st> Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500> From: "Deus=2C Rachelle" > To: > Reply-To: = psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > Well didn't Ann say that as we get older t= he volume of our frontal lobe> decreases (the connections decay) and so the= elderly would have some of> the same symptoms/actions as someone with fron= tal lobe damage=2C meaning> that their filter would function worse (per say= ) than an average> person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tues= day's> lecture....> > =3D20> Rachelle Park> > > -----Original Message----->= From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu> [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.c= sbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of> ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu> Sent: Monday=2C Nov= ember 03=2C 2008 10:11 AM> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: [Psy= ch3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post> > > > ----- Forwarded message= from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu -----> Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700= > From: GRETCHEN CASTO > Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO = > Subject: mode response> To: ann.lambert@psych.ut= ah.edu> > Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? 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Clive in particular was a very interesting topic. It was crazy to see
that he knew and recognized his wife and that he could remember
how to play the piano and conduct music=2C but he couldnt remember
what happened a minute ago or where he was or how he got there.
I cant imagine how hard that would be. Your quality of life would be = =3B
more than cut in half. I cant imagine what it would be like for his wife either ( i think that was his wife).He didnt even remember that he had = =3B
talked to her earlier in the day. Every time he see's her he thinks its for=
 =3Bthe first time in a long time.It would be so strange to feel like y= ou have =3B
been unconscious and that you have just woken up and just had your
first taste=2C smell=2C touch=2C etc. I thought it was very interesting tha= t he
would even read his diary and see that he had written the same things over<= BR> and over again=2C but he thought for sure he must have been unconscious
when he wrote them. He couldnt even grasp what was going on and
what condition he has. What a challenge! This video really opened my
eyes to how much we really do take our memory for granted and what
life would be like without parts of our memory being able to function.
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Has anyone seen the movie 50 first dates? This video kind of reminded
me of that and how the girl in the movie has a memory problem too. There is also a guy that only has a memory of 10 seconds so he will say " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?" and just when you finish saying who you are=
he says " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?"

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>=3B Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000
>=3B Subje= ct: [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully)
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>=3B The material= covered on test 2 was pretty interesting it gave me a greater perspective = on how memory works. I never knew that there were so many different "stores= "=2C places to hold different memories. It was kind of a difficult test for= me=2C The short answer questions always snag me. Anyway=2C the Brown-Peter= son task that was discussed and shown on the slides was one of the more int= riguing tasks. If I was the confederate participating in the task=2C I woul= d think it would be quite difficult to remember those 3 numbers. I suppose = that there are individuals out there that just have a great memory and can = keep items in short-term memory for a bit=2C but for me If I don't constant= ly think of the material it just floats right away. The way Waugh and Norma= n countered the procedure was also interesting in the way that they devised= their procedure around a string of digits versus 3 digits. Both of the tes= ts seem pretty valid=2C and would take a lot of work to develop. This class= is challengi
>=3B ng=2C but I'm glad it is so when its all said and d= one I will walk away knowing something.
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>=3B Thanks=2C Eri= c Gully
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>=3B From: "Nicole Marie= Barber" <=3Bn.barber@utah.edu>=3B
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>=3B Is there a reason behind the e= lderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20
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>=3B Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretche= n's Post
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500
>=3B From: "= Deus=2C Rachelle" <=3BRachelle.Deus@amerinet-gpo.com>=3B
>=3B To: = <=3Bpsych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B
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>=3B Well didn't Ann say that as we get ol= der the volume of our frontal lobe
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See how Windows Mobile brings your life together=97a= t home=2C work=2C or on the go. See Now = --_a5d69364-3be7-499f-babf-0e09ad37a996_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 01:40:59 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (clint adams) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:40:59 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Episodic Memory, video In-Reply-To: <200811042216.mA4MFarF011601@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200811042216.mA4MFarF011601@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: Today's, and the previous lectures on memory were very insightful, especially getting into specifics on episodic memory. It's hard to imagine after watching the video, how it would be to lose the ability to transfer information into long term storage, only to retain information in short term memory for 20 seconds and have it disappear. Equally amazing how he was able to remember things, play the piano, and sing so well given the damage to his brain. ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:15:36 -0700 > From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1306 - 3 msgs > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Primacy/Recency Example (Erin Hellstrom) > 2. 10 Heather Oldroyd (Heather Oldroyd) > 3. memory impairments in HM , Clive (Nicole Tucker) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:09:13 -0800 (PST) > From: Erin Hellstrom > To: Cognitive Psych Post > Subject: [Psych3120] Primacy/Recency Example > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > --0-1695356650-1225832953=:88035 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Even though we learned about Primacy and Recency for our last exam, it's st= > ill cool to me that we can learn something in the classroom and apply it to= > everyday life.=A0 I was offered some lunch choices over the phone today.= > =A0 There were about 10 choices read to me - all in consecutive order.=A0 I= > heard all of the choices but none of them really registered except the fir= > st choices and the last choices.=A0 So I ordered what I could remember, whi= > ch was the first option and the last option.=A0 When I got to where I was g= > oing and read the lunch choices for myself, there were choices I would much= > rather of had, but since I didn't 'hear' them - I could only choose from t= > he=A0first and last choices offered. =A0 =0A=0A=0A > --0-1695356650-1225832953=:88035 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > Even though we learned about Primacy and Recency for our last exam, it's still cool to me that we can learn something in the classroom and apply it to everyday life. I was offered some lunch choices over the phone today. There were about 10 choices read to me - all in consecutive order. I heard all of the choices but none of them really registered except the first choices and the last choices. So I ordered what I could remember, which was the first option and the last option. When I got to where I was going and read the lunch choices for myself, there were choices I would much rather of had, but since I didn't 'hear' them - I could only choose from the first and last choices offered. > > > > > --0-1695356650-1225832953=:88035-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:21 -0700 > From: "Heather Oldroyd" > To: > Subject: [Psych3120] 10 Heather Oldroyd > Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EC4.D222CE6E > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E" > > > ------_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > =20 > > Memory- I love learning about the memory, it is a very multifaceted > subject. I agree with the research that has shown, when memorizing > things or subjects to attach them to a meaning or emotion to help you > remember. At first this seems more difficult, because now you have to > remember two meanings. One trick I have used, it to use meanings and > memories I am most familiar with, or if you're studying for a test you > can use a visual reminder in the classroom to help you. Although, if > you don't write down exactly what and how you are remembering something > (say with an acronym), and you are disrupted or you don't give yourself > enough time to remember the acronym it could make matter much worst, > during the test you might only remember the acronym and not class work > that goes with it. =20 > > Heather Oldroyd=20 > > =20 > > > ------_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > charset=3Dus-ascii"> > > > > > > lang=3DEN-US > link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple = > style=3D'margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:18.75pt'> > v:src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01C93E8A.257A49B0" v:shapes=3D"_x0000_Mail" = > width=3D0 > height=3D0 class=3Dshape style=3D'display:none;width:0;height:0'> > > > > Gothic"> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century = > Gothic";color:navy'>Memory- I love > learning about the memory, it is a very multifaceted subject. 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One = > trick I have > used, it to use meanings and memories I am most familiar with, or if = > you’re > studying for a test you can use a visual reminder in the classroom to = > help you. > Although, if you don’t write down exactly what and how you are > remembering something (say with an acronym), and you are disrupted or = > you don’t > give yourself enough time to remember the acronym it could make matter = > much > worst, during the test you might only remember the acronym and not class = > work that > goes with it. > > Gothic"> style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century = > Gothic";color:navy'>He size=3D1 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial> style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:navy'>ather Oldroyd face=3D"Century Gothic"> style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic"; > color:navy'> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial;color:#0033CC'> > > > > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_002_01C93EC4.D222CE6E-- > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EC4.D222CE6E > Content-Type: 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It was crazy to see > that he knew and recognized his wife and that he could remember > how to play the piano and conduct music=2C but he couldnt remember=20 > what happened a minute ago or where he was or how he got there.=20 > I cant imagine how hard that would be. Your quality of life would be =20 > more than cut in half. I cant imagine what it would be like for his wife=20 > either ( i think that was his wife).He didnt even remember that he had =20 > talked to her earlier in the day. Every time he see's her he thinks its for > the first time in a long time.It would be so strange to feel like you have= > =20 > been unconscious and that you have just woken up and just had your=20 > first taste=2C smell=2C touch=2C etc. I thought it was very interesting tha= > t he=20 > would even read his diary and see that he had written the same things over > and over again=2C but he thought for sure he must have been unconscious > when he wrote them. He couldnt even grasp what was going on and > what condition he has. What a challenge! This video really opened my > eyes to how much we really do take our memory for granted and what > life would be like without parts of our memory being able to function. > =20 > Has anyone seen the movie 50 first dates? This video kind of reminded > me of that and how the girl in the movie has a memory problem too. There > is also a guy that only has a memory of 10 seconds so he will say " Hi=2C > my name is Bob=2C who are you?" and just when you finish saying who you are > he says " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?"> Date: Tue=2C 4 Nov 2008 1= > 2:03:34 -0700> From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: Psych3= > 120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1305 - 3 msgs> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> Se= > nd Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> = > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C visit> http://lists.c= > sbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or=2C via email=2C send a message with= > subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> You ca= > n reach the person managing the list at> psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.ed= > u>> When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it is more specific>= > than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest...">>> Today's Topics:>> 1. 9th = > post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully) (ejgully@comcast.net)> 2. RE: Psych3120= > digest=2C Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs (Nicole Marie Barber)> 3. LTM Access (James= > Coleman)>> -- __--__-->> Message: 1> From: ejgully@comcast.net> To: psych= > 3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000> Subject:= > [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully)> Reply-To: psych3120@l= > ists.csbs.utah.edu>>> The material covered on test 2 was pretty interesti= > ng it gave me a greater perspective on how memory works. I never knew that = > there were so many different "stores"=2C places to hold different memories.= > It was kind of a difficult test for me=2C The short answer questions alway= > s snag me. Anyway=2C the Brown-Peterson task that was discussed and shown o= > n the slides was one of the more intriguing tasks. If I was the confederate= > participating in the task=2C I would think it would be quite difficult to = > remember those 3 numbers. I suppose that there are individuals out there th= > at just have a great memory and can keep items in short-term memory for a b= > it=2C but for me If I don't constantly think of the material it just floats= > right away. The way Waugh and Norman countered the procedure was also inte= > resting in the way that they devised their procedure around a string of dig= > its versus 3 digits. Both of the tests seem pretty valid=2C and would take = > a lot of work to develop. This class is challengi> ng=2C but I'm glad it is= > so when its all said and done I will walk away knowing something.>> Than= > ks=2C Eric Gully>> -- __--__-->> Message: 2> Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 18:47= > :52 -0700> From: "Nicole Marie Barber" > To: lists.csbs.utah.edu>> Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1= > 304 - 2 msgs> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> This is a multi-pa= > rt message in MIME format.>> ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93E1F.CE0B381A> Co= > ntent-Type: text/plain=3B> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"> Content-Transfer-Encodin= > g: quoted-printable>> so over all i thought the test last week went really= > well. the review =3D> session really helped. there are a few things that i= > am still a little =3D> confused on and maybe someone can clarify them for = > me. the first =3D> question i have is: is the multi-store model and the wor= > king memory =3D> model the same thing...just that the working memory model = > is more =3D> detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure tha= > ts what =3D> they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find in= > my notes =3D> either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based or object b= > ased =3D> attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i dont remember/ could= > nt make =3D> sense of them and was really confused on that question.>> ___= > _____________________________>> From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu = > on behalf of =3D> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Sent: Mon 11/3/200= > 8 12:07 PM> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: Psych3120 digest=2C= > Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs>>>> Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> ps= > ych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wi= > de Web=2C visit> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or=2C v= > ia email=2C send a message with subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-reques= > t@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> You can reach the person managing the list at> psy= > ch3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> When replying=2C please edit your Subje= > ct line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest...">= > >> Today's Topics:>> 1. Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (ann.lamber= > t@psych.utah.edu)> 2. RE: Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (Deus=2C Rac= > helle)>> -- __--__-- >> Message: 1> Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -07= > 00> From: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Su= > bject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post> Reply-To: psych312= > 0@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> This message is in MIME format.>> --=3D3D_6s3g6ot= > o5dkw> Content-Type: text/plain=3B> charset=3D3DISO-8859-1=3B> DelSp=3D3D"Y= > es"=3B> format=3D3D"flowed"> Content-Disposition: inline> Content-Transfer-= > Encoding: 7bit>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu = > -----> Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700> From: GRETCHEN CASTO en.Casto@utah.edu>> Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO > Sub= > ject: mode response> To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu>> Is there a reason be= > hind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20> would often say very = > inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20> inappropriate times. maybe thi= > s has something to do with filtering=3D20> and the possibility that it's ef= > fectivness decreases with age. she=3D20> didn't suffer from dementia or alz= > hiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20> a scientific reason for this. Is = > this related to the normal decreases?>>> ----- End forwarded message ----= > ->>>> --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw> Content-Type: multipart/alternative=3B> boun= > dary=3D3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C"=3B> name=3D3D""> Conte= > nt-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>> Received: from ipo3.cc.utah.edu (ipo3.cc.utah= > .edu [155.97.131.71])> by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id = > =3D> mA341QtT027605> for =3B Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 = > 21:01:26 -0700 =3D> (MST)> X-SBRS: None> X-IronPort-AV: E=3D3DSophos=3Bi=3D= > 3D"4.33=2C532=2C1220248800"=3B> d=3D3D"scan'208=2C217"=3Ba=3D3D"80874408"> = > Received: from smtp2.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.150])> by ipo3smtp.cc.utah= > .edu with ESMTP=3B 02 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700> Received: from CAMPUSV5.xds.= > umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.70]) by =3D> smtp2.umail.utah.edu with Microsof= > t SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959)=3B> Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700> x-mimeole: P= > roduced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5> Content-class: urn:content-classes:mess= > age> MIME-Version: 1.0> Content-Type: multipart/alternative=3B> boundary=3D= > 3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C"> Subject: mode response> Date= > : Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700> Message-ID: =3D> 2D264D68B5386DE13@CAMPUSV5.xds.umail.utah.edu>> X-MS-Has-Attach:> X-MS-TNEF= > -Correlator:> Thread-Topic: mode response> Thread-Index: Ack9aNSy4ZYeRrejTJ= > u0aBO9uhyR8w=3D3D=3D3D> From: "GRETCHEN CASTO" > T= > o: > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 04:01:2= > 1.0622 (UTC) =3D> FILETIME=3D3D[D5002760:01C93D68]> Content-Length: 1481>>= > > ------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C> Content-Type: text/plain=3B= >> charset=3D3Diso-8859-1> Content-Disposition: inline> Content-Transfer-Enc= > oding: 7bit>> Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My gran= > dmother =3D> would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very = > =3D> inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and= > =3D> the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't= > =3D> suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a =3D>= > scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases?>> --= > ----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C> Content-Type: text/html=3B> char= > set=3D3Diso-8859-1> Content-Disposition: inline> Content-Transfer-Encoding:= > quoted-printable>> =3D3D0A=3D3D> iv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html=3B =3D> charset=3D3D3Dunicod= > e">=3D3D0A=3D3D> name=3D3= > D3DGENERATOR>=3D3D0A=3D3D> =3D3D0A=3D3D> DArial color=3D3D3D#000000 size=3D3D3D2>Is there a reason =3D> =3D3D> behin= > d the elderly having no tact? =3B My grandmother would often say =3D> = > =3D3D> very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times.&nbs= > p=3B =3D> =3D3D> maybe this has something to do with filtering and the poss= > ibility that =3D> =3D3D> it's effectivness decreases with age. =3B she = > didn't suffer from =3D3D> dementia or alzhiemers. =3B just wondered if = > there was a scientific =3D> =3D3D> reason for this. =3B Is this related= > to the normal =3D3D> decreases?> ------_=3D3D_N= > extPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C-->> --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw-->>> -- __--__-- = >>> Message: 2> Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Po= > st> Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500> From: "Deus=2C Rachelle" lle.Deus@amerinet-gpo.com>> To: > Reply-To: = > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> Well didn't Ann say that as we get older t= > he volume of our frontal lobe> decreases (the connections decay) and so the= > elderly would have some of> the same symptoms/actions as someone with fron= > tal lobe damage=2C meaning> that their filter would function worse (per say= > ) than an average> person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tues= > day's> lecture....>> =3D20> Rachelle Park>>> -----Original Message----->= > From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu> [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.c= > sbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of> ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu> Sent: Monday=2C Nov= > ember 03=2C 2008 10:11 AM> To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: [Psy= > ch3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post>>>> ----- Forwarded message= > from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu -----> Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700= >> From: GRETCHEN CASTO > Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO = > > Subject: mode response> To: ann.lambert@psych.ut= > ah.edu>> Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmoth= > er=3D20> would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20> = > inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=3D20> an= > d the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=3D20> didn= > 't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20> a s= > cientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases?>>> --= > --- End forwarded message ----->>>> ------------------------------------= > -------------------------------------=3D> --> This email and any files tran= > smitted with it are intended solely for the =3D> use of the individuals or = > entities to whom they are addressed and are =3D> not to be disclosed to any= > other party. 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multi-part message in MIME format.>> = > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93EAF.41215E17> Content-Type: text/plain=3B> cha= > rset=3D"iso-8859-1"> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable>> Today's= > lecture made me curious as to whether or not hypnosis would be =3D> an eff= > ective way of retrieving memories. I have heard mixed messages =3D> regardi= > ng hypnosis from it being a complete crock to an effective =3D> therapy too= > l. 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It was crazy to see > that he knew and recognized his wife and that he could remember > how to play the piano and conduct music=2C but he couldnt remember > what happened a minute ago or where he was or how he got there. > I cant imagine how hard that would be. Your quality of life would be = > =3B > more than cut in half. I cant imagine what it would be like for his wife R> > either ( i think that was his wife).He didnt even remember that he had = > =3B > talked to her earlier in the day. Every time he see's her he thinks its for= > > =3Bthe first time in a long time.It would be so strange to feel like y= > ou have =3B > been unconscious and that you have just woken up and just had your > first taste=2C smell=2C touch=2C etc. I thought it was very interesting tha= > t he > would even read his diary and see that he had written the same things over<= > BR> > and over again=2C but he thought for sure he must have been unconscious > when he wrote them. He couldnt even grasp what was going on and > what condition he has. What a challenge! This video really opened my > eyes to how much we really do take our memory for granted and what > life would be like without parts of our memory being able to function. > =3B > Has anyone seen the movie 50 first dates? This video kind of reminded > me of that and how the girl in the movie has a memory problem too. There> > is also a guy that only has a memory of 10 seconds so he will say " Hi=2C R> > my name is Bob=2C who are you?" and just when you finish saying who you are= > > he says " Hi=2C my name is Bob=2C who are you?" >=3B Date: Tue=2C= > 4 Nov 2008 12:03:34 -0700>=3B From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.uta= > h.edu>=3B Subject: Psych3120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1305 - 3 msgs>=3B= > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B Send Psych3120 mail= > ing list submissions to>=3B psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B <= > BR>>=3B To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C visit&g= > t=3B http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120>=3B or=2C via = > email=2C send a message with subject or body 'help' to>=3B psych3120-= > request@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B You can reach the person m= > anaging the list at>=3B psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B= > >=3B When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it is more sp= > ecific>=3B than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest...">=3B &= > gt=3B >=3B Today's Topics:>=3B >=3B 1. 9th post: Memory= > =2C test 2 (Eric Gully) (ejgully@comcast.net)>=3B 2. RE: Psych3120 di= > gest=2C Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs (Nicole Marie Barber)>=3B 3. LTM Access = > (James Coleman)>=3B >=3B -- __--__-- >=3B >=3B Messag= > e: 1>=3B From: ejgully@comcast.net>=3B To: psych3120@lists.csbs= > .utah.edu>=3B Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000>=3B Subje= > ct: [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory=2C test 2 (Eric Gully)>=3B Reply-To:= > psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B >=3B The material= > covered on test 2 was pretty interesting it gave me a greater perspective = > on how memory works. I never knew that there were so many different "stores= > "=2C places to hold different memories. It was kind of a difficult test for= > me=2C The short answer questions always snag me. Anyway=2C the Brown-Peter= > son task that was discussed and shown on the slides was one of the more int= > riguing tasks. If I was the confederate participating in the task=2C I woul= > d think it would be quite difficult to remember those 3 numbers. I suppose = > that there are individuals out there that just have a great memory and can = > keep items in short-term memory for a bit=2C but for me If I don't constant= > ly think of the material it just floats right away. The way Waugh and Norma= > n countered the procedure was also interesting in the way that they devised= > their procedure around a string of digits versus 3 digits. Both of the tes= > ts seem pretty valid=2C and would take a lot of work to develop. This class= > is challengi>=3B ng=2C but I'm glad it is so when its all said and d= > one I will walk away knowing something. >=3B >=3B Thanks=2C Eri= > c Gully>=3B >=3B -- __--__-- >=3B >=3B Message: 2= > >=3B Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 18:47:52 -0700>=3B From: "Nicole Marie= > Barber" <=3Bn.barber@utah.edu>=3B>=3B To: <=3Bpsych3120@lists.= > csbs.utah.edu>=3B>=3B Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest=2C = > Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs>=3B Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu&= > gt=3B >=3B This is a multi-part message in MIME format.>=3B >>=3B ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93E1F.CE0B381A>=3B Content-Type: t= > ext/plain=3B>=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1">=3B Content-Transfer-En= > coding: quoted-printable>=3B >=3B so over all i thought the tes= > t last week went really well. the review =3D>=3B session really helpe= > d. there are a few things that i am still a little =3D>=3B confused o= > n and maybe someone can clarify them for me. the first =3D>=3B questi= > on i have is: is the multi-store model and the working memory =3D>=3B= > model the same thing...just that the working memory model is more =3D&= > gt=3B detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure thats what= > =3D>=3B they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find = > in my notes =3D>=3B either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based = > or object based =3D>=3B attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i = > dont remember/ couldnt make =3D>=3B sense of them and was really conf= > used on that question.>=3B >=3B _______________________________= > _>=3B >=3B From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf = > of =3D>=3B psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B Sent: Mon = > 11/3/2008 12:07 PM>=3B To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B Su= > bject: Psych3120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs>=3B >=3B &g= > t=3B >=3B Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to>=3B psych3= > 120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B To subscribe or unsubscribe vi= > a the World Wide Web=2C visit>=3B http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo= > .cgi/psych3120>=3B or=2C via email=2C send a message with subject or = > body 'help' to>=3B psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B R>>=3B You can reach the person managing the list at>=3B psych3120-= > admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B When replying=2C please edit= > your Subject line so it is more specific>=3B than "Re: Contents of P= > sych3120 digest...">=3B >=3B >=3B Today's Topics:>= > =3B >=3B 1. Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (ann.lambert@psych.u= > tah.edu)>=3B 2. RE: Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (Deus=2C Rac= > helle)>=3B >=3B -- __--__-- >=3B >=3B Message: 1>>=3B Date: Mon=2C 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0700>=3B From: ann.lambert= > @psych.utah.edu>=3B To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B Subje= > ct: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post>=3B Reply-To: ps= > ych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B This message is in MIME fo= > rmat.>=3B >=3B --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw>=3B Content-Type: tex= > t/plain=3B>=3B charset=3D3DISO-8859-1=3B>=3B DelSp=3D3D"Yes"=3B= > >=3B format=3D3D"flowed">=3B Content-Disposition: inline>= > =3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit>=3B >=3B >=3B >= > =3B ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----->=3B Da= > te: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700>=3B From: GRETCHEN CASTO <=3BG= > retchen.Casto@utah.edu>=3B>=3B Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO <=3BGretc= > hen.Casto@utah.edu>=3B>=3B Subject: mode response>=3B To: ann= > .lambert@psych.utah.edu>=3B >=3B Is there a reason behind the e= > lderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20>=3B would often say very i= > nappropriate things primarily at very=3D20>=3B inappropriate times. m= > aybe this has something to do with filtering=3D20>=3B and the possibi= > lity that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=3D20>=3B didn't s= > uffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20>= > =3B a scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases?<= > BR>>=3B >=3B >=3B ----- End forwarded message ----->=3B= > >=3B >=3B >=3B --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw>=3B Content-Ty= > pe: multipart/alternative=3B>=3B boundary=3D3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_00= > 1_01C93D68.D4BA345C"=3B>=3B name=3D3D"">=3B Content-Transfer-En= > coding: 7bit>=3B >=3B Received: from ipo3.cc.utah.edu (ipo3.cc.= > utah.edu [155.97.131.71])>=3B by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) wi= > th ESMTP id =3D>=3B mA341QtT027605>=3B for <=3Bann.lambert@ps= > ych.utah.edu>=3B=3B Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:26 -0700 =3D>=3B (MST)<= > BR>>=3B X-SBRS: None>=3B X-IronPort-AV: E=3D3DSophos=3Bi=3D3D"4.33= > =2C532=2C1220248800"=3B>=3B d=3D3D"scan'208=2C217"=3Ba=3D3D"80874408"= > >=3B Received: from smtp2.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.150])>=3B= > by ipo3smtp.cc.utah.edu with ESMTP=3B 02 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700>=3B= > Received: from CAMPUSV5.xds.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.70]) by =3D>= > =3B smtp2.umail.utah.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959)=3B>=3B= > Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700>=3B x-mimeole: Produced By Microsof= > t Exchange V6.5>=3B Content-class: urn:content-classes:message>= > =3B MIME-Version: 1.0>=3B Content-Type: multipart/alternative=3B&= > gt=3B boundary=3D3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C">=3B Su= > bject: mode response>=3B Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700&g= > t=3B Message-ID: =3D>=3B <=3BDE3075D225F51043A9B6F2D264D68B5386DE13= > @CAMPUSV5.xds.umail.utah.edu>=3B>=3B X-MS-Has-Attach:>=3B X-M= > S-TNEF-Correlator:>=3B Thread-Topic: mode response>=3B Thread-I= > ndex: Ack9aNSy4ZYeRrejTJu0aBO9uhyR8w=3D3D=3D3D>=3B From: "GRETCHEN CA= > STO" <=3BGretchen.Casto@utah.edu>=3B>=3B To: <=3Bann.lambert@ps= > ych.utah.edu>=3B>=3B X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 04:01:21.06= > 22 (UTC) =3D>=3B FILETIME=3D3D[D5002760:01C93D68]>=3B Content-L= > ength: 1481>=3B >=3B >=3B ------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93= > D68.D4BA345C>=3B Content-Type: text/plain=3B>=3B charset=3D3Dis= > o-8859-1>=3B Content-Disposition: inline>=3B Content-Transfer-E= > ncoding: 7bit>=3B >=3B Is there a reason behind the elderly hav= > ing no tact? My grandmother =3D>=3B would often say very inappropriat= > e things primarily at very =3D>=3B inappropriate times. maybe this ha= > s something to do with filtering and =3D>=3B the possibility that it'= > s effectivness decreases with age. she didn't =3D>=3B suffer from dem= > entia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a =3D>=3B scientific = > reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases?>=3B >= > =3B ------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C>=3B Content-Type: tex= > t/html=3B>=3B charset=3D3Diso-8859-1>=3B Content-Disposition: i= > nline>=3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable>=3B &= > gt=3B <=3BHTML dir=3D3D3Dltr>=3B<=3BHEAD>=3B=3D3D0A=3D3D>=3B = > <=3BMETA http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html=3B =3D>>=3B charset=3D3D3Dunicode">=3B=3D3D0A=3D3D>=3B <=3BMETA conte= > nt=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6001.18148" =3D>=3B name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>=3B&= > lt=3B/HEAD>=3B=3D3D0A=3D3D>=3B <=3BBODY>=3B=3D3D0A=3D3D>= > =3B <=3BDIV>=3B<=3BFONT face=3D3D3DArial color=3D3D3D#000000 size=3D3= > D3D2>=3BIs there a reason =3D>=3B =3D3D>=3B behind the elderl= > y having no tact?&=3Bnbsp=3B My grandmother would often say =3D>= > =3B =3D3D>=3B very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropria= > te times.&=3Bnbsp=3B =3D>=3B =3D3D>=3B maybe this has someth= > ing to do with filtering and the possibility that =3D>=3B =3D3D&g= > t=3B it's effectivness decreases with age.&=3Bnbsp=3B she didn't suffer = > from =3D3D>=3B dementia or alzhiemers.&=3Bnbsp=3B just wondered if= > there was a scientific =3D>=3B =3D3D>=3B reason for this.&= > =3Bnbsp=3B Is this related to the normal =3D3D>=3B decreases?<=3B/F= > ONT>=3B<=3B/DIV>=3B<=3B/BODY>=3B<=3B/HTML>=3B>=3B -----= > -_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C-->=3B >=3B --=3D3D_6s3g6= > oto5dkw-->=3B >=3B >=3B -- __--__-- >=3B >=3B= > Message: 2>=3B Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretche= > n's Post>=3B Date: Mon=2C 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500>=3B From: "= > Deus=2C Rachelle" <=3BRachelle.Deus@amerinet-gpo.com>=3B>=3B To: = > <=3Bpsych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B>=3B Reply-To: psych3120@lis= > ts.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B Well didn't Ann say that as we get ol= > der the volume of our frontal lobe>=3B decreases (the connections dec= > ay) and so the elderly would have some of>=3B the same symptoms/actio= > ns as someone with frontal lobe damage=2C meaning>=3B that their filt= > er would function worse (per say) than an average>=3B person's right?= > ?? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tuesday's>=3B lecture....>= > =3B >=3B =3D20>=3B Rachelle Park>=3B >=3B >= > =3B -----Original Message----->=3B From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.u= > tah.edu>=3B [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of= > >=3B ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu>=3B Sent: Monday=2C November 03= > =2C 2008 10:11 AM>=3B To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B Sub= > ject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post>=3B >=3B= > >=3B >=3B ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu= > ----->=3B Date: Sun=2C 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700>=3B From: GRE= > TCHEN CASTO <=3BGretchen.Casto@utah.edu>=3B>=3B Reply-To: GRETCHE= > N CASTO <=3BGretchen.Casto@utah.edu>=3B>=3B Subject: mode respons= > e>=3B To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu>=3B >=3B Is there a = > reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20>=3B wou= > ld often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20>=3B ina= > ppropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=3D20>= > =3B and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=3D20= > >=3B didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if ther= > e was=3D20>=3B a scientific reason for this. Is this related to the n= > ormal decreases?>=3B >=3B >=3B ----- End forwarded messag= > e ----->=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B ------------------------= > -------------------------------------------------=3D>=3B -->=3B= > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the = > =3D>=3B use of the individuals or entities to whom they are addressed= > and are =3D>=3B not to be disclosed to any other party. 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<=3Bjam= > es.coleman@utah.edu>=3B>=3B To: <=3Bpsych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu= > >=3B>=3B Subject: [Psych3120] LTM Access>=3B Reply-To: psych3= > 120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>=3B >=3B This is a multi-part message i= > n MIME format.>=3B >=3B ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93EAF.41215E= > 17>=3B Content-Type: text/plain=3B>=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" R>>=3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable>=3B >=3B T= > oday's lecture made me curious as to whether or not hypnosis would be =3D R>>=3B an effective way of retrieving memories. 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_________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 03:38:27 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alicia Elizabeth Reichert) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 References: <200811050146.mA51jaiR014014@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <9A448F559C042F4FB0D1E49CA2914C735FD48F@CAMPUSV4.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EF7.F68BD4EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought todays lecture was very interesting. 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I found it very facinating = that tests have been done to find out whether or not a person who has = damage to their hippocampus can create new memories. It was very = interesting with the case of HM and how his doctor started testing him = on his memory. I never would have thought that he would have these = unconscious memories of being shocked or drawing a star. I personally = think it would be very tragic to be in this situation. I don't know how = Clive and HM are able to go from day to day not being able to remember = where they are, what they have just done, or even just waking up.=20 Krisitna Woolley ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EF8.874E9B87 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
The thing that I = found the most interesting in class today is how different explicit and = implicit memory are. I found it very facinating that tests have been = done to find out whether or not a person who has damage to their = hippocampus can create new memories. It was very interesting with the = case of HM and how his doctor started testing him on his memory. I never = would have thought that he would have these unconscious memories of = being shocked or drawing a star. I personally think it would be very = tragic to be in this situation. I don't know how Clive and HM are able = to go from day to day not being able to remember where they are, what = they have just done, or even just waking up.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C93EF8.874E9B87-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 17:07:02 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (jake moss) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:07:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] access to memory In-Reply-To: <200811041904.mA4J3YWS009754@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <417226.16854.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1623472105-1225904822=:16854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i thought it was interesting in class when we were talking about recalling = information and sometimes not being able to. like the example he gave when = were a baby and that we cant remember mu ch when we were a baby. the earlie= st i can remember is when i was three and getting one of those Foot tall ni= nja turtle action figures for christmas, and i am still a big fan of the ni= nja turtles, but i just think its crazy that we have access to our memeory,= but to some memories we dont. sometimes i find myself in a situation where= im trying to name an actor whos movies ive seen many times, and for some r= eason i cant think of the name, i draw a blank. youd think it would be auto= matic to just think of the name but no, sometimes i have those blanks, and = then later when you think of the name your like what the hell is wrong with= me. i just think its weird that the access to those memories is sometimes = DENIED=20 =A0 Makeon Hendrix --- On Tue, 11/4/08, psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1305 - 3 msgs To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:03 PM Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to =09psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =09http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =09psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at =09psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 9th post: Memory, test 2 (Eric Gully) (ejgully@comcast.net) 2. RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs (Nicole Marie Barber) 3. LTM Access (James Coleman) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: ejgully@comcast.net To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000 Subject: [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory, test 2 (Eric Gully) Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu The material covered on test 2 was pretty interesting it gave me a greater perspective on how memory works. I never knew that there were so many diff= erent "stores", places to hold different memories. It was kind of a difficult test for me, The short answer questions always snag me. Anyway, = the Brown-Peterson task that was discussed and shown on the slides was one of t= he more intriguing tasks. If I was the confederate participating in the task,= I would think it would be quite difficult to remember those 3 numbers. I sup= pose that there are individuals out there that just have a great memory and can = keep items in short-term memory for a bit, but for me If I don't constantly thin= k of the material it just floats right away. The way Waugh and Norman counte= red the procedure was also interesting in the way that they devised their proce= dure around a string of digits versus 3 digits. Both of the tests seem pretty v= alid, and would take a lot of work to develop. This class is challengi ng, but I'm glad it is so when its all said and done I will walk away knowing something. =20 Thanks, Eric Gully --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:47:52 -0700 From: "Nicole Marie Barber" To: Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93E1F.CE0B381A Content-Type: text/plain; =09charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so over all i thought the test last week went really well. the review =3D session really helped. there are a few things that i am still a little =3D confused on and maybe someone can clarify them for me. the first =3D question i have is: is the multi-store model and the working memory =3D model the same thing...just that the working memory model is more =3D detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure thats what =3D they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find in my notes =3D either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based or object based =3D attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i dont remember/ couldnt make = =3D sense of them and was really confused on that question. ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of =3D psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Mon 11/3/2008 12:07 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1304 - 2 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu) 2. RE: Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post (Deus, Rachelle) -- __--__--=20 Message: 1 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0700 From: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This message is in MIME format. --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1; DelSp=3D3D"Yes"; format=3D3D"flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20 would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20 inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=3D20 and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=3D20 didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20 a scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases? ----- End forwarded message ----- --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C"; name=3D3D"" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from ipo3.cc.utah.edu (ipo3.cc.utah.edu [155.97.131.71]) by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id =3D mA341QtT027605 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:26 -0700 =3D (MST) X-SBRS: None X-IronPort-AV: E=3D3DSophos;i=3D3D"4.33,532,1220248800"; d=3D3D"scan'208,217";a=3D3D"80874408" Received: from smtp2.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.150]) by ipo3smtp.cc.utah.edu with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 Received: from CAMPUSV5.xds.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.70]) by =3D smtp2.umail.utah.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D3D"----_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C" Subject: mode response Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 Message-ID: =3D X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mode response Thread-Index: Ack9aNSy4ZYeRrejTJu0aBO9uhyR8w=3D3D=3D3D From: "GRETCHEN CASTO" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 04:01:21.0622 (UTC) =3D FILETIME=3D3D[D5002760:01C93D68] Content-Length: 1481 ------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother =3D would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very =3D inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering and =3D the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she didn't =3D suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was a =3D scientific reason for this. Is this related to the normal decreases? ------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D3D0A=3D3D =3D3D0A=3D3D =3D3D0A=3D3D =3D3D0A=3D3D
Is there a reason =3D =3D3D behind the elderly having no tact?  My grandmother would often say =3D =3D3D very inappropriate things primarily at very inappropriate times.  =3D =3D3D maybe this has something to do with filtering and the possibility that =3D =3D3D it's effectivness decreases with age.  she didn't suffer from =3D3D dementia or alzhiemers.  just wondered if there was a scientific =3D =3D3D reason for this.  Is this related to the normal =3D3D decreases?
------_=3D3D_NextPart_001_01C93D68.D4BA345C-- --=3D3D_6s3g6oto5dkw-- -- __--__--=20 Message: 2 Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500 From: "Deus, Rachelle" To: Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Well didn't Ann say that as we get older the volume of our frontal lobe decreases (the connections decay) and so the elderly would have some of the same symptoms/actions as someone with frontal lobe damage, meaning that their filter would function worse (per say) than an average person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tuesday's lecture.... =3D20 Rachelle Park -----Original Message----- From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:11 AM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:01:21 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode response To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact? My grandmother=3D20 would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=3D20 inappropriate times. maybe this has something to do with filtering=3D20 and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age. she=3D20 didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers. just wondered if there was=3D20 a scientific reason for this. 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quoted-printable Today's lecture made me curious as to whether or not hypnosis would be =3D an effective way of retrieving memories. I have heard mixed messages =3D regarding hypnosis from it being a complete crock to an effective =3D therapy tool. 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i thought it was interesting in class when we were talking about recalling information and sometimes not being able to. like the example he gave when were a baby and that we cant remember mu ch when we were a baby. the earliest i can remember is when i was three and getting one of those Foot tall ninja turtle action figures for christmas, and i am still a big fan of the ninja turtles, but i just think its crazy that we have access to our memeory, but to some memories we dont. sometimes i find myself in a situation where im trying to name an actor whos movies ive seen many times, and for some reason i cant think of the name, i draw a blank. youd think it would be automatic to just think of the name but no, sometimes i have those blanks, and then later when you think of the name your like what the hell is wrong with me. i just think its weird that the access to those memories is sometimes DENIED
 
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:56:02 +0000
Subject: [Psych3120] 9th post: Memory, test 2 (Eric Gully)
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The material covered on test 2 was pretty interesting it gave me a greater
perspective on how memory works.  I never knew that there were so many different
"stores", places to hold different memories.  It was kind of a
difficult test for me, The short answer questions always snag me.  Anyway, the
Brown-Peterson task that was discussed and shown on the slides was one of the
more intriguing tasks.  If I was the confederate participating in the task, I
would think it would be quite difficult to remember those 3 numbers.  I suppose
that there are individuals out there that just have a great memory and can keep
items in short-term memory for a bit, but for me If I don't constantly think
of the material it just floats right away.  The way Waugh and Norman countered
the procedure was also interesting in the way that they devised their procedure
around a string of digits versus 3 digits.  Both of the tests seem pretty valid,
and would take a lot of work to develop.  This class is challengi
ng, but I'm glad it is so when its all said and done I will walk away
knowing something.    

Thanks, Eric Gully

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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:47:52 -0700
From: "Nicole Marie Barber" <n.barber@utah.edu>
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so over all i thought the test last week went really well. the review =
session really helped. there are a few things that i am still a little =
confused on and maybe someone can clarify them for me. the first =
question i have is: is the multi-store model and the working memory  =
model the same thing...just that the working memory model is more =
detailed? they are so similar and i just want to make sure thats what =
they are. also...a question on the test that i couldnt find in my notes =
either is "which is more dominant.. spaced based or object based =
attention?" i looked it up in my notes and i dont remember/ couldnt make =
sense of them and was really confused on that question.

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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0700
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Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact?  My grandmother=20
would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=20
inappropriate times.  maybe this has something to do with filtering=20
and the possibility that it's effectivness decreases with age.  she=20
didn't suffer from dementia or alzhiemers.  just wondered if there was=20
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Message: 2
Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode response - Gretchen's Post
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:28:57 -0500
From: "Deus, Rachelle" <Rachelle.Deus@amerinet-gpo.com>
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Well didn't Ann say that as we get older the volume of our frontal lobe
decreases (the connections decay) and so the elderly would have some of
the same symptoms/actions as someone with frontal lobe damage, meaning
that their filter would function worse (per say) than an average
person's right??? I am pretty sure Ann said that in Tuesday's
lecture....

=20
Rachelle Park


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  Subject: mode response
       To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu

Is there a reason behind the elderly having no tact?  My grandmother=20
would often say very inappropriate things primarily at very=20
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:55:49 -0700
From: "James Coleman" <james.coleman@utah.edu>
To: <psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu>
Subject: [Psych3120] LTM Access
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Today's lecture made me curious as to whether or not hypnosis would be =
an effective way of retrieving memories.  I have heard mixed messages =
regarding hypnosis from it being a complete crock to an effective =
therapy tool.  Anybody have any first hand experiences or thoughts =
relevant to retrieving lost memories using hypnosis?

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--0-1623472105-1225904822=:16854-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 17:27:15 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eric Halgren) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:27:15 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Clive Message-ID: <76b5b1710811050927i151f28eag34573a094f8016b3@mail.gmail.com> If clive from the in class video learned a new technique or way of expressing him self through music would he be able to remember it at all the next time? With his prior knowledge of music would he be able to learn things at least faster? Also if he had to learn a new note of music for example over and over each time would he start to pick it up faster at some point such as was the case with HM? -- Sent from my mobile device From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 19:12:28 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (James Coleman) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:12:28 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Clive In-Reply-To: <200811051902.mA5J24Q1021686@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200811051902.mA5J24Q1021686@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: I think that if he didn't know the song from before he lost the ability to access his long term memory, It would be like sight reading for him every time he played it. Even though he had played the song before, he wouldn't remember it because he couldn't form the memory. Being an accomplished musician, he would be able to sight read relatively easy, and probably wouldn't really need to memorize songs. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Wed Nov 5 20:20:25 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (JALEAH HOLMAN) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:20:25 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Clive Video Message-ID: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132B8F212@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93F83.F414AB5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought that the video we watched in class was very interesting. = It is amazing what our memory does for us and how much we take it for = granted. I think it would be horrible to live like Clive and I bet it = is probably really hard on his wife and family as well. Clive has = normal working memory and normal old memories but he is unable to create = new explicit memories due to hippocampus damage. I thought it was also = interesting that Clive and HM are both still able to learn implicitly. = They can still be conditioned to learn new things or respond a certain = way because it is an older memory system. When HM's doctor put a buzzer = on his hand and shook HM's hand and then the next day HM wouldn't shake = his hand. He didn't know why exactly but he had implicitly learned that = it was not a positive experience. I found that really interesting. = -JaLeah Holman Kellogg ------_=_NextPart_001_01C93F83.F414AB5E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
   I = thought that the video we watched in class was very interesting.  = It is amazing what our memory does for us and how much we take it for = granted.  I think it would be horrible to live like Clive and I bet = it is probably really hard on his wife and family as well.  Clive = has normal working memory and normal old memories but he is unable to = create new explicit memories due to hippocampus damage.  I thought = it was also interesting that Clive and HM are both still able to learn = implicitly.  They can still be conditioned to learn new things or = respond a certain way because it is an older memory system.  When = HM's doctor put a buzzer on his hand and shook HM's hand and then the = next day HM wouldn't shake his hand.  He didn't know why exactly = but he had implicitly learned that it was not a positive = experience.  I found that really interesting. -JaLeah Holman = Kellogg
------_=_NextPart_001_01C93F83.F414AB5E-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 17:16:15 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Christiana Tawzer) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:16:15 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] applications of false memories Message-ID: <2c9afed10811060916h4502bce3v4abe6fb9ed39d146@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_22241_17769530.1225991775896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought today's lecture was very interesting. I knew false memories existed but I was not aware of the prevalence. I was also surprised at the little credit psychologists give to eyewitness reports. That is probably a big reason why more eyewitness testimonies is much more reliable than one. It was fascinating to hear how a person's memory can actually change, such as the lady who witness the train/car crash. It makes wonder how many false or skewed memories I have. ------=_Part_22241_17769530.1225991775896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought today's lecture was very interesting. I knew false memories existed but I was not aware of the prevalence. I was also surprised at the little credit psychologists give to eyewitness reports. That is probably a big reason why more eyewitness testimonies is much more reliable than one. It was fascinating to hear how a person's memory can actually change, such as the lady who witness the train/car crash. It makes wonder how many false or skewed memories I have. 
------=_Part_22241_17769530.1225991775896-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 17:25:19 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Christiana Tawzer) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:25:19 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Time in memory recall Message-ID: <2c9afed10811060925r695feb7ek9b51cefeabb0de4a@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_22346_22276322.1225992319853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know it was mentioned briefly in class, but how does time factor into access and accuracy of memories? I witnessed a motorcycle/car crash last fall. No one was injured very badly. At the time I could recall what I saw quite easily. However, the motorcyclist's insurance company contacted me about 2 to 3 months later. I was asked a series of detailed questions. To be perfectly honest, I hadn't thought too much about the collision, thinking I would not be asked any further questions. I tried to remember exactly what I witnessed but I felt like I wasn't able to give a very accurate description. I think time is a crucial element in receiving accurate information in eyewitness reports, as they are not very reliable to begin with. ------=_Part_22346_22276322.1225992319853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know it was mentioned briefly in class, but how does time factor into access and accuracy of memories? I witnessed a motorcycle/car crash last fall. No one was injured very badly. At the time I could recall what I saw quite easily. However, the motorcyclist's insurance company contacted me about 2 to 3 months later. I was asked a series of detailed questions. To be perfectly honest, I hadn't thought too much about the collision, thinking I would not be asked any further questions. I tried to remember exactly what I witnessed but I felt like I wasn't able to give a very accurate description.
I think time is a crucial element in receiving accurate information in eyewitness reports, as they are not very reliable to begin with.
------=_Part_22346_22276322.1225992319853-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 17:37:00 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Christiana Tawzer) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:37:00 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Personal experience in memory recall Message-ID: <2c9afed10811060937o7a8341d1ydd343e5f923858d9@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_22514_32231040.1225993020436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was thinking about what factors influence memory recall. I discussed time as an important factor in my last message. As was also mentioned in lecture, experience can also influence memory accuracy. For example, if someone was in a bad car wreck as a child, it may effect how the person perceives a car crash they witnessed. That example may qualify more as a traumatic event for the person, however, our personal experience shapes our view of every situation we come upon. ------=_Part_22514_32231040.1225993020436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I was thinking about what factors influence memory recall. I discussed time as an important factor in my last message. As was also mentioned in lecture, experience can also influence memory accuracy. For example, if someone was in a bad car wreck as a child, it may effect how the person perceives a car crash they witnessed. That example may qualify more as a traumatic event for the person, however, our personal experience shapes our view of every situation we come upon.
------=_Part_22514_32231040.1225993020436-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 19:51:53 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Shawn Hazen) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:51:53 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Response to Jaleah In-Reply-To: <200811061905.mA6J4cuL001157@topo.csbs.utah.edu> References: <200811061905.mA6J4cuL001157@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: --_7b3b094f-2a70-4c9b-b643-97b540d91d1c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really is interesting how much we take our memory for granted. Initially= it doesn't seem obvious how much we rely on memory to function in our day = to day lives. The most interesting aspect to me was what you mentioned rega= rding the implicit memory and how even without the hippocampus these indivi= duals are still able to create new memories=2C but in a way that we are not= as conscious of. As I was driving home from class Tuesday there was a radi= o program on and a man was discussing this very issue. He was saying how th= ere are two different paths to make memories and how there is a more physic= al kind of memory that is not necessarily consciously implemented.> Date: T= hu=2C 6 Nov 2008 12:04:38 -0700> From: psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.ed= u> Subject: Psych3120 digest=2C Vol 1 #1310 - 5 msgs> To: psych3120@lists.c= sbs.utah.edu> > Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to> psych3120@lists= .csbs.utah.edu> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C vis= it> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120> or=2C via email=2C s= end a message with subject or body 'help' to> psych3120-request@lists.csbs.= utah.edu> > You can reach the person managing the list at> psych3120-admin@= lists.csbs.utah.edu> > When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it= is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..."> > > Today's = Topics:> > 1. RE: Clive (James Coleman)> 2. Clive Video (JALEAH HOLMAN)> 3.= applications of false memories (Christiana Tawzer)> 4. Time in memory reca= ll (Christiana Tawzer)> 5. Personal experience in memory recall (Christiana= Tawzer)> > --__--__--> > Message: 1> From: James Coleman > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Date: Wed=2C 5 Nov 2008 12:12:2= 8 -0700> Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Clive> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.uta= h.edu> > I think that if he didn't know the song from before he lost the > = ability to access his long term memory=2C It would be like sight reading > = for him every time he played it. Even though he had played the song > befor= e=2C he wouldn't remember it because he couldn't form the memory. > Being a= n accomplished musician=2C he would be able to sight read > relatively easy= =2C and probably wouldn't really need to memorize songs.> > --__--__--> > M= essage: 2> Date: Wed=2C 5 Nov 2008 13:20:25 -0700> From: "JALEAH HOLMAN" > To: > Subject: [Psych3120= ] Clive Video> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > This is a multi-p= art message in MIME format.> > ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93F83.F414AB5E> C= ontent-Type: text/plain=3B> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"> Content-Transfer-Encodi= ng: quoted-printable> > I thought that the video we watched in class was ve= ry interesting. =3D> It is amazing what our memory does for us and how much= we take it for =3D> granted. I think it would be horrible to live like Cli= ve and I bet it =3D> is probably really hard on his wife and family as well= . Clive has =3D> normal working memory and normal old memories but he is un= able to create =3D> new explicit memories due to hippocampus damage. I thou= ght it was also =3D> interesting that Clive and HM are both still able to l= earn implicitly. =3D> They can still be conditioned to learn new things or = respond a certain =3D> way because it is an older memory system. When HM's = doctor put a buzzer =3D> on his hand and shook HM's hand and then the next = day HM wouldn't shake =3D> his hand. He didn't know why exactly but he had = implicitly learned that =3D> it was not a positive experience. I found that= really interesting. =3D> -JaLeah Holman Kellogg> > ------_=3D_NextPart_001= _01C93F83.F414AB5E> Content-Type: text/html=3B> charset=3D"iso-8859-1"> Con= tent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable> > =3D0A= =3D> =3D0A=3D> =3D0A=3D> =3D0A=3D>
 =3B =3B I =3D> thought that the video we w= atched in class was very interesting. =3B =3D> It is amazing what our m= emory does for us and how much we take it for =3D> granted. =3B I think= it would be horrible to live like Clive and I bet =3D> it is probably real= ly hard on his wife and family as well. =3B Clive =3D> has normal worki= ng memory and normal old memories but he is unable to =3D> create new expli= cit memories due to hippocampus damage. =3B I thought =3D> it was also = interesting that Clive and HM are both still able to learn =3D> implicitly.=  =3B They can still be conditioned to learn new things or =3D> respond = a certain way because it is an older memory system. =3B When =3D> HM's = doctor put a buzzer on his hand and shook HM's hand and then the =3D> next = day HM wouldn't shake his hand. =3B He didn't know why exactly =3D> but= he had implicitly learned that it was not a positive =3D> experience. = =3B I found that really interesting. -JaLeah Holman =3D> Kellogg> ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C93F83.F414AB5E--> > --__--__--= > > Message: 3> Date: Thu=2C 6 Nov 2008 10:16:15 -0700> From: "Christiana T= awzer" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: [Ps= ych3120] applications of false memories> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.uta= h.edu> > ------=3D_Part_22241_17769530.1225991775896> Content-Type: text/pl= ain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Dispo= sition: inline> > I thought today's lecture was very interesting. I knew fa= lse memories> existed but I was not aware of the prevalence. I was also sur= prised at the> little credit psychologists give to eyewitness reports. That= is probably a> big reason why more eyewitness testimonies is much more rel= iable than one.> It was fascinating to hear how a person's memory can actua= lly change=2C such> as the lady who witness the train/car crash. It makes w= onder how many false> or skewed memories I have.> > ------=3D_Part_22241_17= 769530.1225991775896> Content-Type: text/html=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1> Cont= ent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Disposition: inline> > I thought today= '=3Bs lecture was very interesting. I knew false memories existed but I = was not aware of the prevalence. I was also surprised at the little credit = psychologists give to eyewitness reports. That is probably a big reason why= more eyewitness testimonies is much more reliable than one. It was fascina= ting to hear how a person'=3Bs memory can actually change=2C such as the= lady who witness the train/car crash. It makes wonder how many false or sk= ewed memories I have. =3B
> > ------=3D_Part_22241_17769530.1225991= 775896--> > --__--__--> > Message: 4> Date: Thu=2C 6 Nov 2008 10:25:19 -070= 0> From: "Christiana Tawzer" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.= utah.edu> Subject: [Psych3120] Time in memory recall> Reply-To: psych3120@l= ists.csbs.utah.edu> > ------=3D_Part_22346_22276322.1225992319853> Content-= Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> = Content-Disposition: inline> > I know it was mentioned briefly in class=2C = but how does time factor into> access and accuracy of memories? I witnessed= a motorcycle/car crash last> fall. No one was injured very badly. At the t= ime I could recall what I saw> quite easily. However=2C the motorcyclist's = insurance company contacted me> about 2 to 3 months later. I was asked a se= ries of detailed questions. To be> perfectly honest=2C I hadn't thought too= much about the collision=2C thinking I> would not be asked any further que= stions. I tried to remember exactly what I> witnessed but I felt like I was= n't able to give a very accurate description.> > I think time is a crucial = element in receiving accurate information in> eyewitness reports=2C as they= are not very reliable to begin with.> > ------=3D_Part_22346_22276322.1225= 992319853> Content-Type: text/html=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1> Content-Transfe= r-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Disposition: inline> > I know it was mentioned br= iefly in class=2C but how does time factor into access and accuracy of memo= ries? I witnessed a motorcycle/car crash last fall. No one was injured very= badly. At the time I could recall what I saw quite easily. However=2C the = motorcyclist'=3Bs insurance company contacted me about 2 to 3 months lat= er. I was asked a series of detailed questions. To be perfectly honest=2C I= hadn'=3Bt thought too much about the collision=2C thinking I would not = be asked any further questions. I tried to remember exactly what I witnesse= d but I felt like I wasn'=3Bt able to give a very accurate description. =
> I think time is a crucial element in receiving accurate information i= n eyewitness reports=2C as they are not very reliable to begin with.
> = > ------=3D_Part_22346_22276322.1225992319853--> > --__--__--> > Message: 5= > Date: Thu=2C 6 Nov 2008 10:37:00 -0700> From: "Christiana Tawzer" > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Subject: [Psych3120] Perso= nal experience in memory recall> Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> >= ------=3D_Part_22514_32231040.1225993020436> Content-Type: text/plain=3B c= harset=3DISO-8859-1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Disposition: = inline> > I was thinking about what factors influence memory recall. I disc= ussed time> as an important factor in my last message. As was also mentione= d in lecture=2C> experience can also influence memory accuracy. For example= =2C if someone was> in a bad car wreck as a child=2C it may effect how the = person perceives a car> crash they witnessed. That example may qualify more= as a traumatic event for> the person=2C however=2C our personal experience= shapes our view of every> situation we come upon.> > ------=3D_Part_22514_= 32231040.1225993020436> Content-Type: text/html=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1> Co= ntent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Disposition: inline> > I was thinkin= g about what factors influence memory recall. I discussed time as an import= ant factor in my last message. As was also mentioned in lecture=2C experien= ce can also influence memory accuracy. For example=2C if someone was in a b= ad car wreck as a child=2C it may effect how the person perceives a car cra= sh they witnessed. That example may qualify more as a traumatic event for t= he person=2C however=2C our personal experience shapes our view of every si= tuation we come upon.
> > ------=3D_Part_22514_32231040.1225993020436--= > > > --__--__--> > _______________________________________________> Psych3= 120 mailing list> Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu= /listinfo.cgi/psych3120> > > End of Psych3120 Digest _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows=AE connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are p= art of your life http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/= --_7b3b094f-2a70-4c9b-b643-97b540d91d1c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really is interesting how much we take our memory for granted. Initially= it doesn't seem obvious how much we rely on memory to function in our day = to day lives. The most interesting aspect to me was what you mentioned rega= rding the implicit memory and how even without the hippocampus these indivi= duals are still able to create new memories=2C but in a way that we are not= as conscious of. As I was driving home from class Tuesday there was a radi= o program on and a man was discussing this very issue. He was saying how th= ere are two different paths to make memories and how there is a more physic= al kind of memory that is not necessarily consciously implemented.

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>=3B From: "JALEAH HOL= MAN" <=3Bu0380524@utah.edu>=3B
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See how Windows=AE connects the people=2C info= rmation=2C and fun that are part of your life Click here = --_7b3b094f-2a70-4c9b-b643-97b540d91d1c_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 20:44:07 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (FilmFan (Brent Cowley)) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:44:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Week 8 Post Message-ID: <207659.7288.qm@web31405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The sensitivity of the brain never ceases to amaze me.  The story of Clive is quite astounding and almost sounds more like a film narrative than a real memory disorder.  The fact that he can't store new memories is interesting, but the fact that he can easily slip back into past skills and memories is quite intriguing.  What I don't understand is when after playing the piano and leading the choir members, he started going into convulsions.  The video explained it as trouble with his brain going back to his current state, but there has to be a better explanation than that.  Which part of the brain would cause such convulsions? Does anyone know? From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 20:57:23 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (FilmFan (Brent Cowley)) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:57:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Week 9 Post: Memory recall question? Message-ID: <533172.91330.qm@web31404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We've discussed several times in class about chunking and memory recall.  I need some clarification on the experience of runners correlating run times with information they were told to remember.  Is this referring only to their short-term memory or also long-term memory?  Certain people were able to recall up to 86 items (a lot more than the 7 + or - 2) when attaching them to other information such as run times. I am also a film major and remember American Film Institute Top 100 lists by their number such as 1) Citizen Kane 38) Double Indemnity 58) Fantasia 65) Silence of the Lambs 95) Pulp Fiction etc.  I can recall all 100 by just being asked which list and which number, but of course this would be in my long-term memory.  Were all the 86 items purely in short-term memory, or were they also in Long-term as well? For me it is very easy to remember things when attached to something else (ex: Academy Award Winners based on year won).  Is this the same as the experiments in recall or again were those 86 items strictly based on short-term memory? From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 21:24:10 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Heather Oldroyd) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] 11 heather Oldroyd Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C94056.026B9E9E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C94056.026B9E9E" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C94056.026B9E9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Clive video- I thought this video was very insightful. It is always nice to have visuals to help learn from. We can read all the books on memory storage from the short term "working memory" encodes to the long term and how implicated and explicated work with the memory storage. But explaining in words what a person who has problems with their encoding and storage memories goes through everyday would be impossible. It was really sad hearing Clive, state that "now he is really alive", over and over not realizing he is unable to encode his new STM memories to LTM storage. Perhaps it is only sad to us because we know he's memory is not working properly but to him, he is unaware and living happily every new minute. I have one question; he was to have all his memories prior to the brain damage, so I was wondering why he had forgot his daughter's name? =20 Heather Oldroyd=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C94056.026B9E9E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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(Eric Gully) Message-ID: <110620082200.344.491368FB000316E50000015822070229339704049A09060A@comcast.net> Class was good today (11/6/08), some of the topics we went over were pretty appealing. Episodic memory and state dependent learning are both huge factors in our lives that we as humans do not recognize on a daily basis, let alone think about. Episodic memory is something that you actually know you did such as buying a pair of shoes on a certain day, or remembering having a specific conversation with a friend. Right now I could think of several episodic memories that happened to me over the last few days such as my visit to the dentist and them telling me I needed to get a filling. One time someone asked me what color the sky was and obviously it was a stupid question, but I didn't even have to remember that it was blue it just popped into my memory, that is a semantic memory which I still am a bit hesitant on how it works? Episodic memories to me mean more because I can actually recall when and how they happened. State dependent learning struck me as pretty neat. I didn't kno w that if you study for a test in the same room that you are going to take it, that you possibly do better just for the fact that you studied in the room. Or the fact that if you are drunk while you are studying for a test, you might as well go drunk to the test and will probably do a lot better for the pure notion of being intoxicated. Both Episodic and State dependent learning are crucial things that we skip over everyday, and If we realized how important they were to us, maybe we could understand events better. State dependent learning is a cool mind set, and I would like to look into it further. Thanks, Eric Gully From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Thu Nov 6 23:13:44 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Richard Eric Shelton) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Flashbulb Memories Message-ID: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132010D7FCB@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C94065.508F0DEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today in class we discussed "flashbulb memories". These are = characterized as extremely vivid memories of a personal circumstance = surrounding the discovery of a shocking event. We learned that the = amount of emotion felt at the time of the event is positively correlated = (.9) to the vividness of the memory. As stressed in class, vividness = does not necessarily equal accuracy. Our discussion of this made me = think of an experience I had recently that illustrates this point. =20 =20 A couple weeks ago I was at Sunday dinner with all of my family. There = are six kids and there is an 8 year gap from the second youngest to the = youngest. The youngest sibling is my sister Stephanie. Her birthday is = approaching and we were all talking about the surprise we felt when we = first learned that Mom and Dad were having another kid when they both = were 40 years old. As we listened to each other's memory, we realized = that not all of our stories lined up. I remember being on a camping = trip with my two brothers when my father told us. I remember my Mom = being a little upset the next morning that he spilled the beans without = her. My brother Greg, however, insists that Mom told everybodytogether = after one of his soccer games. 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Today in class we discussed “flashbulb = memories”.  = These are characterized as extremely vivid memories of = a personal circumstance surrounding the discovery of a shocking = event.  We learned that = the amount of emotion felt at the time of the event is positively = correlated (.9) to the vividness of the memory.  As stressed in class, = vividness does not necessarily equal accuracy.  Our discussion of this made me = think of an experience I had recently that illustrates this point. 

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A couple weeks ago I was at Sunday dinner with all = of my family.  There are = six kids and there is an 8 year gap from the second youngest to the = youngest.  The youngest = sibling is my sister Stephanie.  = Her birthday is approaching and we were all talking about the = surprise we felt when we first learned that Mom and Dad were having = another kid when they both were 40 years old.  As we listened to each = other’s memory, we realized that not all of our stories lined = up.  I remember being on a = camping trip with my two brothers when my father told us.  I remember my Mom being a = little upset the next morning that he spilled the beans without = her.  My brother Greg, = however, insists that Mom told everybodytogether after one of his soccer = games.  As is usually the = case, my brother and I are both convinced that we are right and that the = other is mistaken.  After = class today I realized that chances are we are both = wrong!

------_=_NextPart_001_01C94065.508F0DEE-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 00:11:55 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Gayle Reschke) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Eyewitness Testimony Message-ID: --_b48acd38-4d46-41ce-a77a-5f14d8b42778_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although we just touched on eye witness testimony in class today=2C and wil= l discuss it more next week=2C I was amazed at how unreliable it is=2C yet = how widely it still seems to be used in legal cases. Regarding episodic mem= ory and the way the original content of what we see and remember can be rec= oded to create a new memory is a little unnerving. It makes me wonder how = many things I think I am remembering correctly=2C but actually have wrong. = I wonder if right after someone sees something=2C like the woman who witnes= ed the accident with the train=2C they write down exactly what they just sa= w=2C if they would be less likely to remember the incident differently late= r on=2C because they have already retold or recoded what they saw=2C in the= way of writing it down. Gayle Reschke --_b48acd38-4d46-41ce-a77a-5f14d8b42778_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although we just touched on eye witness testimony in class today=2C and wil= l discuss it more next week=2C I was amazed at how unreliable it is=2C yet = how widely it still seems to be used in legal cases. Regarding episodic mem= ory and the way the original content of what we see and remember can be rec= oded to create a new memory is a little unnerving.  =3BIt makes me = =3Bwonder how many things I think I am remembering correctly=2C but actuall= y have wrong. I wonder if right after someone sees something=2C like the wo= man who witnesed the accident with the train=2C =3Bthey write down exac= tly what they just saw=2C if they would be less likely to remember the inci= dent differently later on=2C because they have already retold or recoded&nb= sp=3Bwhat they saw=2C =3Bin the way of writing it down.
Gayle Reschke

= --_b48acd38-4d46-41ce-a77a-5f14d8b42778_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 03:51:03 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jose Chu-Jon) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:51:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Episodic Memory Message-ID: <285575.86820.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-677424200-1226029863=:86820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was very overwhelmed by todays lecture ( as usual) but now reviewing the = notes it really made me think// I've taken a couple of psych classes and Ep= isodic Memory has never gone into this much detail, in the same token this = much detail explains alot of empty gaps that were formulated by previous ps= ych classes. I especially thought the part about recoded Engrams and Ecphon= ic=A0 information really made it more clear about the things that were a li= ttle partial in other psych classes>> anyway another section that cleared u= p some gaps was the part about how memory is effected by our environment=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-677424200-1226029863=:86820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I was very overwhelmed by todays lecture ( as usual) but now reviewing the notes it really made me think// I've taken a couple of psych classes and Episodic Memory has never gone into this much detail, in the same token this much detail explains alot of empty gaps that were formulated by previous psych classes. I especially thought the part about recoded Engrams and Ecphonic  information really made it more clear about the things that were a little partial in other psych classes>> anyway another section that cleared up some gaps was the part about how memory is effected by our environment

--0-677424200-1226029863=:86820-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 06:43:16 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Ana Csere) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:43:16 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Message-ID: --_35ed7ed1-b7f6-497e-915c-81cb05bc3734_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the way that memory works is very interesting=2C I remember th= e professor saying how a person that is intoxicated and places there keys s= omewhere may not remember it in the morning when they are sober but if they= were to get intoxicated again the chances of them remembering were greater= because they are in that mind set. Well last semester I took a ceramics class and a student was driving his mo= thers brand new Range Rover=2C we'll the night before the last day of class= the student parked the car downtown and went to a party=2C he was so drunk= that he left the car there that night and in the morning took a cab back= =2C well the car wasn't were he left if. He called the cops and had to tell= his mom that he left the car downtown and it got stolen. Well I ran into h= im a few months later and he told me that the car was never stole but it wa= s park on a different street and he just didn't remember. This reminded me = of how memory works when we drink. _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows=AE connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are p= art of your life http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119463819/direct/01/= --_35ed7ed1-b7f6-497e-915c-81cb05bc3734_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the way that memory works is very interesting=2C I remember th= e professor saying how a person that is intoxicated and places there keys s= omewhere may not remember it in the morning when they are sober but if they= were to get intoxicated again the chances of them remembering were greater= because they are in that mind set.
Well last semester I took a ceramics class and a student was driving his mo= thers brand new Range Rover=2C we'll the night before the last day of class= the student parked the car downtown and went to a party=2C he was so drunk= that he left the car there that night and in the morning took a cab back= =2C well the car wasn't were he left if. He called the cops and had to tell= his mom that he left the car downtown and it got stolen. Well I ran into h= im a few months later and he told me that the car was never stole but it wa= s park on a different street and he just didn't remember. This reminded me = of how memory works when we drink.


See = how Windows=AE connects the people=2C information=2C and fun that are part = of your life Click here = --_35ed7ed1-b7f6-497e-915c-81cb05bc3734_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 16:02:42 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Richie Mittan) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Our own reality. Message-ID: <88356.33988.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1002823919-1226073762=:33988 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Learning about flash memory really sparked my interest. When you consider that the memory contains so much detail that can be completely false, and then you consider the inferences that we make based off of our prior experiences, It really makes each of our realities unique. We already percieve things differently, but when you add in the fact that our memories can change in details over time, it really makes reality an interesting thought. If you consider history as a representation of reality at a particular time, and the fact that history is made up in large part by personal witnesses to it, our history is in part fictitious. This also affects our current sense of reality. --0-1002823919-1226073762=:33988 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Learning about flash memory really sparked my interest. When you consider that the memory contains so much detail that can be completely false, and then you consider the inferences that we make based off of our prior experiences, It really makes each of our realities unique. We already percieve things differently, but when you add in the fact that our memories can change in details over time, it really makes reality an interesting thought. If you consider history as a representation of reality at a particular time, and the fact that history is made up in large part by personal witnesses to it, our history is in part fictitious. This also affects our current sense of reality.

--0-1002823919-1226073762=:33988-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 18:11:31 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:11:31 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode questions Edward's 3 post questions Message-ID: <20081107111131.d69f56fm88ggs448@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> This message is in MIME format. --=_6lopixucb2g4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If older information is displaced by newer information, could newer =20 information be influenced by older information? Would describing information about an incident dishonestly or =20 inaccurately distort one=E2=80=99s actual memory of that incident? What do experiments like the Waugh and norm experiments tell us, are =20 there any real world implications? --=_6lopixucb2g4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-651653220-1225935266=:11458"; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from ipo3.cc.utah.edu (ipo3.cc.utah.edu [155.97.131.71]) by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA61YNh9008467 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:34:27 -0700 (MST) X-SBRS: 4.5 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiYBABvYEUliiCwmkWdsb2JhbACCTSyRIQEBAQEJCwoHEQOqBowzBQIBg1KDMA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,553,1220248800"; d="scan'208,217";a="82398983" Received: from n70.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.38]) by ipo3.cc.utah.edu with SMTP; 05 Nov 2008 18:34:27 -0700 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n70.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2008 01:34:26 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.164] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2008 01:34:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2008 01:34:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 842684.45765.bm@omp409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11478 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2008 01:34:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=v3mZrxnIIG9RQ7tEPhLHZajdL1UUdBj/kj7SKolb/7JqTmOLeEAsk6fRAC4L/UeSuBKCajMjdnpXu2D7fdWo9+TA847Ul81efTyWNjhLvqJ+KiTltn2E3AzV3Pl+d3KphouBwI9jVuVhf6TRrSbPnhio6o/xPRS8BYI4iF7rVBU=; X-YMail-OSG: p44_ERIVM1nWw8hadQSWCLAfUWYS8yQjiyPwKAiZLmCzfsyhhJ5PvEqldUQ9vHqy2jl2pb8c69xhJ_ybrJo_cL_YQElTRRD3.EV7aHJsmI0c6VWsWta0Sn_E0JBb.wIxdv6DCg-- Received: from [75.148.101.162] by web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:34:26 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:34:26 -0800 (PST) From: Eddie Daniel Subject: mode questions To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-651653220-1225935266=:11458" Message-ID: <696716.11458.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Length: 3116 --0-651653220-1225935266=:11458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here are some questions for the message bored for cognitive psych mode class= : =A0 If older information is displaced by newer information, could newer informat= ion be influenced by older information? =A0 Would describing information about an incident dishonestly or inaccurately d= istort one=A2s actual memory of that incident?=20 =A0 What do experiments like the Waugh and norm experiments tell us, are there a= ny real world implications?=20 =A0 =A0 let me know if there are any problems with these questions. thank you for your time and patience. =A0 sincerely, Edward D. Golub =20 --0-651653220-1225935266=:11458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=0A=0A --0-651653220-1225935266=:11458-- --=_6lopixucb2g4-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Fri Nov 7 21:19:54 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Richard Eric Shelton) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:19:54 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] New development on cell phone use while driving Message-ID: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132010D7FCC@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read this article in today's paper and, given our recent discussion = about cell phone use and driving, thought it would be nice to share it = with the class. It was published in the Deseret News on Friday, = November 7. It is about a legislative proposal to ban cell phone use = for school bus drivers. =20 http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705261418,00.html = =20 =20 Our discussion in class showed that the research regarding cell phone = use and driving was very clear in establishing a strong trade-off effect = in driving performance. A law banning cell phone use for bus drivers = is, at least for me, a no-brainer. It will be interesting to see if = this gets passed into law and if it will re-open the debate as to = whether cell phone use and driving should be banned for everyone. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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I read this article in today’s paper and, = given our recent discussion about cell phone use and driving, thought it = would be nice to share it with the class.  It was published in the Deseret News on Friday, = November 7.  It is about a = legislative proposal to ban cell phone use for school bus = drivers.

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Our discussion in class showed that the = research regarding cell phone use and driving was very clear in = establishing a strong trade-off effect in driving performance.  A law banning cell phone use = for bus drivers is, at least for me, a no-brainer.  It will be interesting to see if this = gets passed into law and if it will re-open the debate as to whether = cell phone use and driving should be banned for = everyone.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sat Nov 8 18:27:20 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (KRISTINA CHAPPELL) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] memory model Message-ID: <4CB7480807410648A7BCF5438CCFCE97D1FB57@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C941CF.A2BBE21A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the memory model is a very interesting way to interpret how = memory is processed. I think it is a very complicated model but it = really makes sense and helps me understand. I thought one of the = interesting parts of it is the original event. An example would be if you are driving to school and you see a car run a = stop light and hit another car. That is an interpretable event or the = original event. That is the stuff that could be formed in a part of your = memory. By paying attention to the event there is the process of = encoding that takes the original information and creates the original = engram. It is the psychological state. Not only do you have that = original event that you are encoding, but you also have the cognitive = environment or your psychological state at the time. You may be tired, = hung over, upset, etc. All of the emotional aspects are a part of the = psychological state. When you are encoding a memory you take the = cognitive environments or states. I think this is very interesting. Kristina Woolley ------_=_NextPart_001_01C941CF.A2BBE21A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C941CF.A2BBE21A-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 06:34:42 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Nicole Marie Barber) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 23:34:42 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] RE: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1313 - 2 msgs References: <200811081903.mA8J35KU023298@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C94235.A923727D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so this week i was really interested in what we talked about on tuesday. = I cant even imagine how weird life would be to be that guy who could no = longer form new memories. i would be really interested to see where and = how he is doing now. i wonder if he ever gets used to that feeling of = "being concious for the very first time." i wonder if he is just as = confused each time it happens? also i would be interested to see how = long it is before he starts over and cannot remmeber what he is talking = about or what he is doing. i also am curious as to if it is on a = schedule...like every 2 minutes exactly or if it adapts somewhat to = tasks and conversations and starts over at the end of tasks that do not = take a lot of time.=20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sat 11/8/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1313 - 2 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. New development on cell phone use while driving (Richard Eric = Shelton) 2. memory model (KRISTINA CHAPPELL) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:19:54 -0700 From: "Richard Eric Shelton" To: Subject: [Psych3120] New development on cell phone use while driving Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read this article in today's paper and, given our recent discussion = =3D about cell phone use and driving, thought it would be nice to share it = =3D with the class. It was published in the Deseret News on Friday, =3D November 7. It is about a legislative proposal to ban cell phone use = =3D for school bus drivers. =3D20 http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705261418,00.html =3D =3D20 =3D20 Our discussion in class showed that the research regarding cell phone = =3D use and driving was very clear in establishing a strong trade-off effect = =3D in driving performance. A law banning cell phone use for bus drivers = =3D is, at least for me, a no-brainer. It will be interesting to see if =3D this gets passed into law and if it will re-open the debate as to =3D whether cell phone use and driving should be banned for everyone. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D
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I read this article in today’s paper and, = =3D given our recent discussion about cell phone use and driving, thought it = =3D would be nice to share it with the class.  It was published in the Deseret News on Friday, =3D November 7.  It is about = a =3D legislative proposal to ban cell phone use for school bus =3D drivers.

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Our discussion in class showed that the =3D research regarding cell phone use and driving was very clear in =3D establishing a strong trade-off effect in driving performance.  A law banning cell phone use = =3D for bus drivers is, at least for me, a no-brainer.  It will be interesting to see if = this =3D gets passed into law and if it will re-open the debate as to whether =3D cell phone use and driving should be banned for =3D everyone.

------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C9411E.940B912A-- --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0700 From: "KRISTINA CHAPPELL" To: Subject: [Psych3120] memory model Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C941CF.A2BBE21A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the memory model is a very interesting way to interpret how = =3D memory is processed. I think it is a very complicated model but it =3D really makes sense and helps me understand. I thought one of the =3D interesting parts of it is the original event. An example would be if you are driving to school and you see a car run a = =3D stop light and hit another car. That is an interpretable event or the = =3D original event. That is the stuff that could be formed in a part of your = =3D memory. By paying attention to the event there is the process of =3D encoding that takes the original information and creates the original = =3D engram. It is the psychological state. Not only do you have that =3D original event that you are encoding, but you also have the cognitive = =3D environment or your psychological state at the time. You may be tired, = =3D hung over, upset, etc. All of the emotional aspects are a part of the = =3D psychological state. When you are encoding a memory you take the =3D cognitive environments or states. I think this is very interesting. Kristina Woolley ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C941CF.A2BBE21A Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D
I think that the = =3D memory model is a very interesting way to interpret how memory is =3D processed. I think it is a very complicated model but it really makes = =3D sense and helps me understand. I thought one of the interesting parts of = =3D it is the original event.
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An example would = =3D be if you are driving to school and you see a car run a stop light and = =3D hit another car. That is an interpretable event or the original event. = =3D That is the stuff that could be formed in a part of your memory. By =3D paying attention to the event there is the process of encoding that =3D takes the original information and creates the original engram. It is = =3D the psychological state. Not only do you have that original event that = =3D you are encoding, but you also have the cognitive environment or your = =3D psychological state at the time. You may be tired, hung over, upset, =3D etc. All of the emotional aspects are a part of the psychological state. = =3D When you are encoding a memory you take the cognitive environments or = =3D states. I think this is very interesting.
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From: u0287424@utah.edu To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Psych3120] New development on cell phone use while driving Date: Fri=2C 7 Nov 2008 14:19:54 -0700 I read this article in today=92s paper and=2C given our recent discussion a= bout cell phone use and driving=2C thought it would be nice to share it wit= h the class. It was published in the Deseret News on Friday=2C November 7.= It is about a legislative proposal to ban cell phone use for school bus d= rivers. =20 http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1=2C5143=2C705261418=2C00.html =20 Our discussion in class showed that the research regarding cell phone use a= nd driving was very clear in establishing a strong trade-off effect in driv= ing performance. A law banning cell phone use for bus drivers is=2C at lea= st for me=2C a no-brainer. It will be interesting to see if this gets pass= ed into law and if it will re-open the debate as to whether cell phone use = and driving should be banned for everyone. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_fast= er_112008= --_c5bcab75-e54a-4606-b285-6e9cab7df018_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure the prof will get a few calls from the legislators to get his opin= ion on this (which we already know).


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Subject: [Psych312= 0] New development on cell phone use while driving
Date: Fri=2C 7 Nov 20= 08 14:19:54 -0700

I read this article in today=92s paper and=2C given our recent discussi= on about cell phone use and driving=2C thought it would be nice to share it= with the class. =3B It was published in the De= seret News on Friday=2C November 7. =3B It is a= bout a legislative proposal to ban cell phone use for school bus drivers.

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Our discussion in class showed that the research regarding cell p= hone use and driving was very clear in establishing a strong trade-off effe= ct in driving performance. =3B A law banning ce= ll phone use for bus drivers is=2C at least for me=2C a no-brainer. =3B It will be interesting to see if this gets passed into la= w and if it will re-open the debate as to whether cell phone use and drivin= g should be banned for everyone.



Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. Sign up today. = --_c5bcab75-e54a-4606-b285-6e9cab7df018_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 17:58:58 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Michael Lawyer) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:58:58 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Week 10: Episodic/State dependent Learning. (Eric Gully) In-Reply-To: <110620082200.344.491368FB000316E50000015822070229339704049A09060A@comcast.net> References: <110620082200.344.491368FB000316E50000015822070229339704049A09060A@comcast.net> Message-ID: --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can imagine the possibility of increased learning and memory if you study= in the same room as where you take the exam. But I also think the brain ca= n get bored with the sensory input=2C and needs breaks from the same=2C or = a vacation for a time=2C to work most efficiently. > From: ejgully@comcast.net > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: [Psych3120] Week 10: Episodic/State dependent Learning. (Eric Gu= lly) > Date: Thu=2C 6 Nov 2008 22:00:27 +0000 >=20 >=20 > Class was good today (11/6/08)=2C some of the topics we went over were pr= etty appealing. Episodic memory and state dependent learning are both huge= factors in our lives that we as humans do not recognize on a daily basis= =2C let alone think about. Episodic memory is something that you actually = know you did such as buying a pair of shoes on a certain day=2C or remember= ing having a specific conversation with a friend. Right now I could think = of several episodic memories that happened to me over the last few days suc= h as my visit to the dentist and them telling me I needed to get a filling.= One time someone asked me what color the sky was and obviously it was a s= tupid question=2C but I didn't even have to remember that it was blue it ju= st popped into my memory=2C that is a semantic memory which I still am a bi= t hesitant on how it works? Episodic memories to me mean more because I can= actually recall when and how they happened. State dependent learning stru= ck me as pretty neat. I didn't kno > w that if you study for a test in the same room that you are going to tak= e it=2C that you possibly do better just for the fact that you studied in t= he room. Or the fact that if you are drunk while you are studying for a te= st=2C you might as well go drunk to the test and will probably do a lot bet= ter for the pure notion of being intoxicated. Both Episodic and State depe= ndent learning are crucial things that we skip over everyday=2C and If we r= ealized how important they were to us=2C maybe we could understand events b= etter. State dependent learning is a cool mind set=2C and I would like to = look into it further. >=20 > Thanks=2C Eric Gully > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your mobile phone with Windows= Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/= --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can imagine the possibility of increased learning and memory if you study= in the same room as where you take the exam. But I also think the brain ca= n get bored with the sensory input=2C and needs breaks from the same=2C or = a vacation for a time=2C to work most efficiently.

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>= =3B Class was good today (11/6/08)=2C some of the topics we went over were = pretty appealing. Episodic memory and state dependent learning are both hu= ge factors in our lives that we as humans do not recognize on a daily basis= =2C let alone think about. Episodic memory is something that you actually = know you did such as buying a pair of shoes on a certain day=2C or remember= ing having a specific conversation with a friend. Right now I could think = of several episodic memories that happened to me over the last few days suc= h as my visit to the dentist and them telling me I needed to get a filling.= One time someone asked me what color the sky was and obviously it was a s= tupid question=2C but I didn't even have to remember that it was blue it ju= st popped into my memory=2C that is a semantic memory which I still am a bi= t hesitant on how it works? Episodic memories to me mean more because I can= actually recall when and how they happened. State dependent learning stru= ck me as pretty neat. I didn't kno
>=3B w that if you study for a tes= t in the same room that you are going to take it=2C that you possibly do be= tter just for the fact that you studied in the room. Or the fact that if y= ou are drunk while you are studying for a test=2C you might as well go drun= k to the test and will probably do a lot better for the pure notion of bein= g intoxicated. Both Episodic and State dependent learning are crucial thin= gs that we skip over everyday=2C and If we realized how important they were= to us=2C maybe we could understand events better. State dependent learnin= g is a cool mind set=2C and I would like to look into it further.
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Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your mobile phon= e with Windows Live Click here = --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 18:55:05 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Erin Hellstrom) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:55:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] State Dependent Learning Message-ID: <80895.5108.qm@web32605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-274610712-1226256905=:5108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday we learned about Baddley's State Dependent Learning Theory.=A0 = I thought it was interesting that he first tried his experiment on deep sea= divers (random population to choose!)=A0 The whole point of his research i= s that people recall more information when they are in the same environment= as when they learned the information.=A0 I think that this is especially i= mportant for students.=A0If you study in a desk similar to the test taking= =A0circumstances you will do better on the test.=A0 I even think it's benef= icial to write the essay questions for this class with the=A0same pencil I = am going to use=A0during the test!=A0 I always thought that it was silly to= use the same pen or pencil, but according to this model, it's not!=A0=A0= =0A=0A=0A --0-274610712-1226256905=:5108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Thursday we learned about Baddley's State Dependent Learning Theory.  I thought it was interesting that he first tried his experiment on deep sea divers (random population to choose!)  The whole point of his research is that people recall more information when they are in the same environment as when they learned the information.  I think that this is especially important for students. If you study in a desk similar to the test taking circumstances you will do better on the test.  I even think it's beneficial to write the essay questions for this class with the same pencil I am going to use during the test!  I always thought that it was silly to use the same pen or pencil, but according to this model, it's not!  

--0-274610712-1226256905=:5108-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 19:07:56 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Geoff Sink) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:07:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] Different types of memory working together In-Reply-To: <200811091755.mA9HsZqc002862@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <466716.98815.qm@web33808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was wondering if the different types of memories work together. Usually when I forget something, like to return a library book on a particular day, I can remember that I wanted to do something but not what exactly. Would that be an implicit memory I'm able to retrieve but an explicit memory I'm not able to retrieve? It seems like emotions are somewhat connected to this type of memory because I get a "feeling" rather than a specific thought. Also, I hope we learn more about retrograde and anterograde amnesia because I would like to know more about the differences between the two. I watched an interesting movie called Unknown White Male, which was about a man who had retrograde amnesia so severe that he forgot what snow and fireworks were. I'd like to know what areas of the brain would have been damaged in him. From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 21:37:12 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jane Lloyd) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:37:12 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Implicit Recall Message-ID: --_7f7d0dfe-b452-4ed5-8ded-e6d2f78682e0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I liked watching the clip about Clive in class last week. It reminded me of= the movie 50 First Dates=2C where Drew Barrymore's character wakes up ever= y morning and lives her birthday over and over. Adam Sandler's character fa= lls in love with her and=2C consequently=2C has to remind her every morning= that she loves him and that they have a life together. I have a question i= n relation to this=2C though. Clive and HM were both able to implicitly rec= all some things. Could this eventually translate into recall for new people= if they were to see them and meet them again and again? I realize that the= y would probably never be able to consciously recognize that they did know = the person=2C but implicitly would the person be less of a stranger to them= ? Just like a joke becomes less funny to these patients when it's constantl= y retold=2C would meeting the same person constantly be less of a novelty e= ach time?=20 _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your mobile phone with Windows= Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/= --_7f7d0dfe-b452-4ed5-8ded-e6d2f78682e0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I liked watching the clip about Clive in class last week. It reminded me of= the movie 50 First Dates=2C where Drew Barrymore's character wakes up ever= y morning and lives her birthday over and over. Adam Sandler's character fa= lls in love with her and=2C consequently=2C has to remind her every morning= that she loves him and that they have a life together. I have a question i= n relation to this=2C though. Clive and HM were both able to implicitly rec= all some things. Could this eventually translate into recall for new people= if they were to see them and meet them again and again? I realize that the= y would probably never be able to consciously recognize that they did know = the person=2C but implicitly would the person be less of a stranger to them= ? Just like a joke becomes less funny to these patients when it's constantl= y retold=2C would meeting the same person constantly be less of a novelty e= ach time?


Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your= mobile phone with Windows Live Click here = --_7f7d0dfe-b452-4ed5-8ded-e6d2f78682e0_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 21:57:47 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Robert Chase Bullock) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:57:47 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] week 11 entry Message-ID: <987EBE3207186A4EAFF1BA0F6334697D0C460C@CAMPUSV1.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942B6.33A5B997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find the case of clive very interesting and have heard about it in a = few classes. This is a very rare problem but i was wondering if there = is any research into curing this? I was thinking along the lines of stem = cell research and regrowing cells in the hipocampus. I don't know if = this is even remotely possible but it was just a thought that came to = me. Robbie Bullock ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942B6.33A5B997 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable week 11 entry

I find the case of clive very interesting and have = heard about it in a few classes.  This is a very rare problem but i = was wondering if there is any research into curing this? I was thinking = along the lines of stem cell research and regrowing cells in the = hipocampus. I don't know if this is even remotely possible but it was = just a thought that came to me.

Robbie Bullock

------_=_NextPart_001_01C942B6.33A5B997-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sun Nov 9 23:29:09 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Lara Nash) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 16:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Episodic Memory Message-ID: --_92d25527-05f5-4ee9-bead-7b9d5c92f735_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today I read an interesting article from National Geographic titled "Scient= ists Rethinking Nature of Animal Memory". According to the writers of this = article scientists have long believed that animals do not have so-called ep= isodic memory but recent experiments with scrub jays=2C chimpanzees=2C and = gorillas have led to rethinking of the nature of memory in animals. Researc= hers found that gorillas were able to remember who fed them certain foods= =2C chimpanzees were able to remember where items were hidden=2C and Jays r= emembered when other birds stole their food and were more cautious about st= oring food in similar locations. According to researchers animals are using= something related to episodic memory=2C but not necessarily the same as in= humans. One researcher states that "Animal memory systems have always been= underestimated=97the upper limits are not really known." I think that this= would be an interesting area of future research. I would be interested in = learning more about differences and similarities between human memory syste= ms and memory systems in other animals.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious emai= l. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safe= ty_112008= --_92d25527-05f5-4ee9-bead-7b9d5c92f735_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today I read an interesting article from National Geographic titl= ed "Scientists Rethinking Nature of Animal Memory". =3BAccording to the= writers of this article scientists have long believed that animals do not = have so-called episodic memory but recent experiments with scrub jays=2C ch= impanzees=2C and gorillas have led to rethinking of the nature of memory in= animals. Researchers found that gorillas were able to re= member who fed them certain foods=2C chimpanzees were able to remember wher= e items were hidden=2C and Jays remembered when other birds stole their foo= d and were more cautious about storing food in similar locations. According= to researchers animals are using something related to episodic memory=2C b= ut not necessarily the same as in humans. One researcher states that = =3B"Animal memory systems have always been underestimated=97the upper limit= s are not really known." I think that this would be an interesting area of = future research. I would be interested in learning more about differences a= nd similarities between human memory systems and memory systems in other an= imals.

Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail= alerts you to suspicious email. Sign= up today. = --_92d25527-05f5-4ee9-bead-7b9d5c92f735_-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 02:34:39 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (NICHOLAS KIRK WILCOX) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:34:39 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Depression and state dependent memories Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942DC.E16127F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking about state dependent memories/learning and was curious = what effect this has on depressed persons. It seems to me if you are = depressed or sad it would be easier to recall the sad and depressing = memories you have. This seems like it could become a slippery slope and = make it even more difficult for those suffering from depression to work = beyond it. Another factor I though might compound the effects of = depression have to deal with how Dr. Strayer mentioned that memories = that have stronger emotional ties are easier to recall. Again this seems = like it would compound the effect of depression by allowing very = emotional and sad memories to be retrieved more easily.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942DC.E16127F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Depression and state dependent memories

I was thinking about state dependent memories/learning = and was curious what effect this has on depressed persons.  It = seems to me if you are depressed or sad it would be easier to recall the = sad and depressing memories you have. This seems like it could become a = slippery slope and make it even more difficult for those suffering from = depression to work beyond it. Another factor I though might compound the = effects of depression have to deal with how Dr. Strayer mentioned that = memories that have stronger emotional ties are easier to recall. Again = this seems like it would  compound the effect of depression by = allowing very emotional and sad memories to be retrieved more easily. =

------_=_NextPart_001_01C942DC.E16127F2-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 03:52:17 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (braden parker) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:52:17 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) Message-ID: <1047fb640811091952r7cde6dc7md140af636be78910@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_64684_19672898.1226289137409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I find it very interesting how so many eyewitness cases are false. I am guessing that what you want to believe plays a big part. I know in some cases, eye witnesses have strong feelings against or for a case and this can change the way they remember things. They set their minds and often times convince themselves. I am excited to learn more on this very interesting subject. Braden Johnson Parker ------=_Part_64684_19672898.1226289137409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I find it very interesting how so many eyewitness cases are false.  I am guessing that what you want to believe plays a big part.  I know in some cases, eye witnesses have strong feelings against or for a case and this can change the way they remember things.  They set their minds and often times convince themselves.  I am excited to learn more on this very interesting subject. 
Braden Johnson Parker
------=_Part_64684_19672898.1226289137409-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 05:46:09 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alex Ryan Janak) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:46:09 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] week 11 post Message-ID: <10D182F71B23304495DE115306E3EDB9218E87@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942F7.A1A79745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tuesday's lecture on varieties of memory was very interesting. The = video about Clive was particularly fascinating. It is sad and amazing = to see the effects on his life just from damage to his hippocampus. I = can not even begin to imagine living like that, with no recollection of = anything i just did. But one thing i am curious about is the cause of = the damage. I think Prof Strayer said it was some sort of virus, but I = think it would be very interesting to learn more about it and how it is = contracted and how it works. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942F7.A1A79745 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable week 11 post

tuesday's lecture on varieties of memory was very = interesting.  The video about Clive was particularly = fascinating.  It is sad and amazing to see the effects on his life = just from damage to his hippocampus.  I can not even begin to = imagine living like that, with no recollection of anything i just = did.  But one thing i am curious about is the cause of the = damage.  I think Prof Strayer said it was some sort of virus, but I = think it would be very interesting to learn more about it and how it is = contracted and how it works.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C942F7.A1A79745-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 06:29:04 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Reece Ivins) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 23:29:04 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Memory Message-ID: <48c8e1ce0811092229u757e28f8h5664d0bc53725a7f@mail.gmail.com> ------=_Part_62459_32884700.1226298544247 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The discussion of memory is very interesting to me. I have always been curious how people can remember things when others cannot. From the lectures, I've come to understand more about attending to information and its role in encoding. But further, I wonder if some people's attention or encoding process is more refined than others on the genetic side. Since I was a child, I could remember all of the lyrics to a song after hearing it twice. To this day, I can remember all of the words from every movie from my childhood, even from movies I saw once. There are people who can view an item once and remember all of its parts and pieces to the millimeter. Is there something more refined about certain people's cognitive mechanisms that makes it easier for them to encode? That would be a very interesting study- to test memory of children at an early age, also with DNA encoding to look for genetic patterns that enhance memory and encoding. It may be that there is no way to distinguish between genetic influence and environmental influence, but I wonder if there is something to it. ------=_Part_62459_32884700.1226298544247 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The discussion of memory is very interesting to me.  I have always bee= n curious how people can remember things when others cannot.  From the= lectures, I've come to understand more about attending to information = and its role in encoding.  But further, I wonder if some people's = attention or encoding process is more refined than others on the genetic si= de.  Since I was a child, I could remember all of the lyrics to a song= after hearing it twice.  To this day, I can remember all of the words= from every movie from my childhood, even from movies I saw once.  The= re are people who can view an item once and remember all of its parts and p= ieces to the millimeter.  Is there something more refined about certai= n people's cognitive mechanisms that makes it easier for them to encode= ?  That would be a very interesting study- to test memory of children = at an early age, also with DNA encoding to look for genetic patterns that e= nhance memory and encoding.  It may be that there is no way to disting= uish between genetic influence and environmental influence, but I wonder if= there is something to it.
------=_Part_62459_32884700.1226298544247-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 07:03:16 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (SHONDA LEE BUCKLAND) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:03:16 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS References: <200811091903.mA9J36DG003355@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: <5D50840A9272CF4694EF4728F6FD0584561C9F@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C94302.67623CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering why so many eye witness accounts are not justifiable? I = get that we recode and retell our stories to fit with what we know or = believe. My question is mostly in regards to recognizing faces. I = understood from my Sensation and Perception class that humans can = recognize faces pretty well. Of course it is mostly geared toward = people we know, but what about people we don't know who have attacked = us? I would think that our memory would reinforce peoples faces so that = we would know that that person is someone that is hurtful so that we can = identify them later and steer clear of them. That would be sort of like = what the evolutionary purpose of memory is. Sort of like we rely on the = information we received during certain emotions, smells, and places = under those similar circumstances. =20 Shonda Buckland=20 ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu on behalf of = psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sun 11/9/2008 12:03 PM To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: Psych3120 digest, Vol 1 #1315 - 3 msgs Send Psych3120 mailing list submissions to psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to psych3120-request@lists.csbs.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Psych3120 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Week 10: Episodic/State dependent Learning. (Eric Gully) (Michael Lawyer) 2. State Dependent Learning (Erin Hellstrom) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Michael Lawyer To: Subject: RE: [Psych3120] Week 10: Episodic/State dependent Learning. = (Eric Gully) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:58:58 -0700 Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can imagine the possibility of increased learning and memory if you = study=3D in the same room as where you take the exam. But I also think the brain = ca=3D n get bored with the sensory input=3D2C and needs breaks from the = same=3D2C or =3D a vacation for a time=3D2C to work most efficiently. > From: ejgully@comcast.net > To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > Subject: [Psych3120] Week 10: Episodic/State dependent Learning. (Eric = Gu=3D lly) > Date: Thu=3D2C 6 Nov 2008 22:00:27 +0000 >=3D20 >=3D20 > Class was good today (11/6/08)=3D2C some of the topics we went over = were pr=3D etty appealing. Episodic memory and state dependent learning are both = huge=3D factors in our lives that we as humans do not recognize on a daily = basis=3D =3D2C let alone think about. Episodic memory is something that you = actually =3D know you did such as buying a pair of shoes on a certain day=3D2C or = remember=3D ing having a specific conversation with a friend. Right now I could = think =3D of several episodic memories that happened to me over the last few days = suc=3D h as my visit to the dentist and them telling me I needed to get a = filling.=3D One time someone asked me what color the sky was and obviously it was = a s=3D tupid question=3D2C but I didn't even have to remember that it was blue = it ju=3D st popped into my memory=3D2C that is a semantic memory which I still am = a bi=3D t hesitant on how it works? Episodic memories to me mean more because I = can=3D actually recall when and how they happened. State dependent learning = stru=3D ck me as pretty neat. I didn't kno > w that if you study for a test in the same room that you are going to = tak=3D e it=3D2C that you possibly do better just for the fact that you studied = in t=3D he room. Or the fact that if you are drunk while you are studying for a = te=3D st=3D2C you might as well go drunk to the test and will probably do a = lot bet=3D ter for the pure notion of being intoxicated. Both Episodic and State = depe=3D ndent learning are crucial things that we skip over everyday=3D2C and If = we r=3D ealized how important they were to us=3D2C maybe we could understand = events b=3D etter. State dependent learning is a cool mind set=3D2C and I would = like to =3D look into it further. >=3D20 > Thanks=3D2C Eric Gully > _______________________________________________ > Psych3120 mailing list > Psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/listinfo.cgi/psych3120 _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC=3D2C the Web=3D2C and your mobile phone with = Windows=3D Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/=3D --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can imagine the possibility of increased learning and memory if you = study=3D in the same room as where you take the exam. But I also think the brain = ca=3D n get bored with the sensory input=3D2C and needs breaks from the = same=3D2C or =3D a vacation for a time=3D2C to work most efficiently.

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>=3D =3D3B Class was good today (11/6/08)=3D2C some of the topics we went = over were =3D pretty appealing. Episodic memory and state dependent learning are both = hu=3D ge factors in our lives that we as humans do not recognize on a daily = basis=3D =3D2C let alone think about. Episodic memory is something that you = actually =3D know you did such as buying a pair of shoes on a certain day=3D2C or = remember=3D ing having a specific conversation with a friend. Right now I could = think =3D of several episodic memories that happened to me over the last few days = suc=3D h as my visit to the dentist and them telling me I needed to get a = filling.=3D One time someone asked me what color the sky was and obviously it was = a s=3D tupid question=3D2C but I didn't even have to remember that it was blue = it ju=3D st popped into my memory=3D2C that is a semantic memory which I still am = a bi=3D t hesitant on how it works? Episodic memories to me mean more because I = can=3D actually recall when and how they happened. State dependent learning = stru=3D ck me as pretty neat. I didn't kno
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Stay up to date on your PC=3D2C the Web=3D2C and your = mobile phon=3D e with Windows Live Click here =3D --_512d3275-d75e-4cc0-aa3d-de03d4c79c84_-- --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:55:05 -0800 (PST) From: Erin Hellstrom To: Cognitive Psych Post Subject: [Psych3120] State Dependent Learning Reply-To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu --0-274610712-1226256905=3D:5108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday we learned about Baddley's State Dependent Learning = Theory.=3DA0 =3D I thought it was interesting that he first tried his experiment on deep = sea=3D divers (random population to choose!)=3DA0 The whole point of his = research i=3D s that people recall more information when they are in the same = environment=3D as when they learned the information.=3DA0 I think that this is = especially i=3D mportant for students.=3DA0If you study in a desk similar to the test = taking=3D =3DA0circumstances you will do better on the test.=3DA0 I even think = it's benef=3D icial to write the essay questions for this class with the=3DA0same = pencil I =3D am going to use=3DA0during the test!=3DA0 I always thought that it was = silly to=3D use the same pen or pencil, but according to this model, it's = not!=3DA0=3DA0=3D =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A =20 --0-274610712-1226256905=3D:5108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii
On Thursday we learned = about Baddley's State Dependent Learning Theory.  I thought it was = interesting that he first tried his experiment on deep sea divers = (random population to choose!)  The whole point of his research is = that people recall more information when they are in the same = environment as when they learned the information.  I think that = this is especially important for students. If you study in a desk = similar to the test taking circumstances you will do better on the = test.  I even think it's beneficial to write the essay questions = for this class with the same pencil I am going to use during = the test!  I always thought that it was silly to use the same pen = or pencil, but according to this model, it's = not!  

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Active recall reminded me about the style between two test preparation companies and how they went about helping you understand and remember the material. One was exactly like a classroom and someone would lecture to you while giving you a list of junk to memorize. The other emphasized learning by asking yourself "why, why, where, how?" and taught you the material in a way that facilitated active recall. Not surprisingly I still remember tons of material I learned which is rare for me, since I usually flush everything out once the test has been taken (bad habit, I know). The video of Clive was also an interesting piece to watch. I was reading the other posts on this list and one student made a comment about how we create our own memories/realities. The Clive video and that comment reminded of the movie Memento (quality film by the way). Without steering too far off tangent and giving too much away, the main character suffers from anterograde amnesia and uses little mementos to help him remember what just happened. It seems like a fairly creative way to try and combat such a problem. Umair Naveed ------=_Part_102538_15708840.1226301180251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Declarative memory, particularly active recall was a fascinating subject to me.  Active recall reminded me about the style between two test preparation companies and how they went about helping you understand and remember the material. One was exactly like a classroom and someone would lecture to you while giving you a list of junk to memorize.  The other emphasized learning by asking yourself "why, why, where, how?" and taught you the material in a way that facilitated active recall.   Not surprisingly I still remember tons of material I learned which is rare for me, since I usually flush everything out once the test has been taken (bad habit, I know).


The video of Clive was also an interesting piece to watch.  I was reading the other posts on this list and one student made a comment about how we create our own memories/realities.  The Clive video and that comment reminded of the movie Memento (quality film by the way).  Without steering too far off tangent and giving too much away, the main character suffers from anterograde amnesia and uses little mementos to help him remember what just happened. It seems like a fairly creative way to try and combat such a problem.   


Umair Naveed

------=_Part_102538_15708840.1226301180251-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 15:36:05 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alison Jean Kunz) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:36:05 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Post- Memory and Alzheimer's References: <200811100709.mAA78YIs009059@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.0B4A70A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have heard that doing activities that 'exercise your brain' so to = speak, such as crossword puzzles, can help prevent or delay the onset of = Alzheimer's. I was wondering if that is true for everyone or if it is a = genetic disease that is inevitable if you are predisposed (I don't have = much knowledge about it in general), so I was just wondering if those = claims are true. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.0B4A70A6 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgYPAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAHgAAAFBvc3QtIE1lbW9yeSBhbmQg QWx6aGVpbWVyJ3MgADoKAQWAAwAOAAAA2AcLAAoACAAkAAUAAQAmAQEggAMADgAAANgHCwAKAAgA JAAFAAEAJgEBCYABACEAAAAyNEI5OEQwNDgzQUEyQjQyODYwRDQ3NUY5Njk0NkU0QwAeBwEDkAYA lAkAADkAAAADACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AKZwSgtKQ8kBHgA9AAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAIBRwAB AAAALwAAAGM9VVM7YT0gO3A9VU1haWw7bD1DQU1QVVNWMi0wODExMTAxNTM2MDVaLTc1NjUAAB4A SQABAAAAJwAAAFBzeWNoMzEyMCBkaWdlc3QsIFZvbCAxICMxMzE2IC0gOSBtc2dzAABAAE4AAEXp JANDyQEeAFoAAQAAACQAAABwc3ljaDMxMjAtYWRtaW5AbGlzdHMuY3Nicy51dGFoLmVkdQACAVsA AQAAAGUAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAABwc3ljaDMxMjAtYWRtaW5AbGlzdHMuY3Ni cy51dGFoLmVkdQBTTVRQAHBzeWNoMzEyMC1hZG1pbkBsaXN0cy5jc2JzLnV0YWguZWR1AAAAAAIB XAABAAAAKQAAAFNNVFA6UFNZQ0gzMTIwLUFETUlOQExJU1RTLkNTQlMuVVRBSC5FRFUAAAAAHgBd AAEAAAAmAAAAcHN5Y2gzMTIwLXJlcXVlc3RAbGlzdHMuY3Nicy51dGFoLmVkdQAAAAIBXgABAAAA aQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBzeWNoMzEyMC1yZXF1ZXN0QGxpc3RzLmNzYnMu dXRhaC5lZHUAU01UUABwc3ljaDMxMjAtcmVxdWVzdEBsaXN0cy5jc2JzLnV0YWguZWR1AAAAAAIB XwABAAAAKwAAAFNNVFA6UFNZQ0gzMTIwLVJFUVVFU1RATElTVFMuQ1NCUy5VVEFILkVEVQAAHgBm AAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAGcAAQAAACQAAABwc3ljaDMxMjAtYWRtaW5AbGlzdHMuY3Nicy51 dGFoLmVkdQAeAGgAAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AaQABAAAAJgAAAHBzeWNoMzEyMC1yZXF1ZXN0 QGxpc3RzLmNzYnMudXRhaC5lZHUAAAAeAHAAAQAAAB4AAABQb3N0LSBNZW1vcnkgYW5kIEFsemhl aW1lcidzIAAAAAIBcQABAAAAGwAAAAHJQwM6Hwmrbc6xz0x1pPw6zvC87/UAEX5TTwAeAHQAAQAA AB4AAABwc3ljaDMxMjBAbGlzdHMuY3Nicy51dGFoLmVkdQAAAB4AGgwBAAAAEQAAAEFsaXNvbiBK ZWFuIEt1bnoAAAAAHgAdDgEAAAAeAAAAUG9zdC0gTWVtb3J5IGFuZCBBbHpoZWltZXIncyAAAAAC AQkQAQAAAMkBAADFAQAAewIAAExaRnWVNbkrAwAKAHJjcGcxMjXiMgNDdGV4BUEBAwH3/wqAAqQD 5AcTAoAP8wBQBFY/CFUHshElDlEDAQIAY2jhCsBzZXQyBgAGwxEl9jMERhO3MBIsETMI7wn3tjsY Hw4wNREiDGBjAFAzCwkBZDM2FlALpiBJUiAT4HZlHQBlCxEgJnQT4AVAZG8LgGcg4QDQdGl2aR6Q B5Edw7YnDsAEkGMEAB1AeQhhCCBicgtxJyBzb5MdsCDgc3AdcGssIMBdGtBoHmAEIAUAbwQQd4MF sB2gcHV6emwHkM0hgGMDkR1gbHAisBggux0wAjAgBbEBAAtgeR2xLx1AAiAUESRQZhDAbHqDHWAH cXIncy4gHOH2dyHxInBuBIEeMgaQHbTrBAAdsHIKUCACEAXAJAH6ciAQbiURBcAnoR7AKBL4YSBn CfAUIA3gHgAf0f8h8B1AJ9YLgCQAHsABoCMAvyeSIBEeYBggI9Iq0XAiQPkJgCAoHPAeECCgBUAd E0JtIbJrbm93IwBk9ypQHmAG4HUoASgBA6AqUjkgcGwpIYEg4CakanW+cwVAJw0toSIQC2FtKhFb LQEoUi4KogqAfTSgAAAAHgA1EAEAAABFAAAAPEY3NTA1QjAxMDEyOURDNDI5Q0YwNEUxQjg4RTg3 MDI3MjJCRDcwQENBTVBVU1YyLnhkcy51bWFpbC51dGFoLmVkdT4AAAAAHgA5EAEAAAAxAAAAPDIw MDgxMTEwMDcwOS5tQUE3OFlJczAwOTA1OUB0b3BvLmNzYnMudXRhaC5lZHU+AAAAAB4ARxABAAAA DwAAAG1lc3NhZ2UvcmZjODIyAAALAPIQAQAAAB8A8xABAAAAQgAAAFAAbwBzAHQALQAgAE0AZQBt AG8AcgB5ACAAYQBuAGQAIABBAGwAegBoAGUAaQBtAGUAcgAnAHMALgBFAE0ATAAAAAAACwD2EAAA AABAAAcwoftmM0lDyQFAAAgwY1xWC0pDyQEDAN4/r28AAAMA8T8JBAAAHgD4PwEAAAARAAAAQWxp c29uIEplYW4gS3VuegAAAAACAfk/AQAAAF0AAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAA L089VU1BSUwvT1U9RklSU1QgQURNSU5JU1RSQVRJVkUgR1JPVVAvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj1V MDQ4OTkyMwAAAAAeAPo/AQAAABUAAABTeXN0ZW0gQWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvcgAAAAACAfs/AQAAAB4A AAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAALgAAAAMA/T/kBAAAAwAZQAAAAAADABpAAAAA AAMAHUAAAAAAAwAeQAAAAAAeADBAAQAAAAkAAABVMDQ4OTkyMwAAAAAeADFAAQAAAAkAAABVMDQ4 OTkyMwAAAAAeADJAAQAAACQAAABwc3ljaDMxMjAtYWRtaW5AbGlzdHMuY3Nicy51dGFoLmVkdQAe ADNAAQAAACYAAABwc3ljaDMxMjAtcmVxdWVzdEBsaXN0cy5jc2JzLnV0YWguZWR1AAAAHgA4QAEA AAAJAAAAVTA0ODk5MjMAAAAAHgA5QAEAAAACAAAALgAAAAMAdkD/////CwApAAAAAAALACMAAAAA AAMABhDCfBIUAwAHECoBAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERABAAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASUhBVkVIRUFSRFRI QVRET0lOR0FDVElWSVRJRVNUSEFURVhFUkNJU0VZT1VSQlJBSU5TT1RPU1BFQUssU1VDSEFTQ1JP U1NXT1JEUFVaWkxFUyxDQU5IRUxQUFJFVkVOVE9SRAAAAAACAX8AAQAAAEUAAAA8Rjc1MDVCMDEw MTI5REM0MjlDRjA0RTFCODhFODcwMjcyMkJENzBAQ0FNUFVTVjIueGRzLnVtYWlsLnV0YWguZWR1 PgAAAAAURg== ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.0B4A70A6-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 15:42:13 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Deus, Rachelle) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1047fb640811091952r7cde6dc7md140af636be78910@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.E7B67916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really bothers me when I think that a lot of my memories may indeed be false. It just overwhelms my mind when I think of it because I have so many memories that I am so positive about how they happened. I really have the hardest time believing that maybe they are incorrect or at least parts of them are. But I can understand how some people can be told that they experienced that they really did not and eventually they really feel like that "memory"/event happened and can feel the pain or what not of it. I remember when I was dating this guy right out of high school. One night he wanted a guy's night and I was cool with that but all of my friends were busy that night so I just stayed home with the family and watched a movie but the next day I did not want to sound like a loser (I was just out of high school and for some reason I wanted to be impressive to this boy) so I told him about how my friend and I went and watched some of our guy friends play basketball. (This is something we did frequently in the past but hadn't done it for a while) but then he asked questions about it and I embellished it so much and for so long that it started to seem like it really did happen. It was weird how that happened, I had to remind myself that it really did not happen. I know it was stupid but I think it helped me to understand how people can be made to believe that something happened when it really did not. = = Rachelle Park = ________________________________ From: psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu [mailto:psych3120-admin@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of braden parker Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:52 PM To: Psych Subject: [Psych3120] (no subject) = I find it very interesting how so many eyewitness cases are false. I am guessing that what you want to believe plays a big part. I know in some cases, eye witnesses have strong feelings against or for a case and this can change the way they remember things. They set their minds and often times convince themselves. I am excited to learn more on this very interesting subject. = Braden Johnson Parker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the us= e of the individuals or entities to whom they are addressed and are not to = be disclosed to any other party. If you have received this email in error p= lease return it to the sender, and erase any copies thereof. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.E7B67916 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It really bothers me when I think that= a lot of my memories may indeed be false. It just overwhelms my mind when I t= hink of it because I have so many memories that I am so positive about how they happened. I really have the hardest time believing that maybe they are incorrect or at least parts of them are. But I can understand how some peop= le can be told that they experienced that they really did not and eventually t= hey really feel like that “memory”/event happened and can feel the = pain or what not of it. I remember when I was dating this guy right out of high school. One night he wanted a guy’s night and I was cool with that bu= t all of my friends were busy that night so I just stayed home with the famil= y and watched a movie but the next day I did not want to sound like a loser (= I was just out of high school and for some reason I wanted to be impressive t= o this boy) so I told him about how my friend and I went and watched some of = our guy friends play basketball. (This is something we did frequently in the pa= st but hadn’t done it for a while) but then he asked questions about it = and I embellished it so much and for so long that it started to seem like it re= ally did happen. It was weird how that happened, I had to remind myself that it really did not happen. I know it was stupid but I think it helped me to understand how people can be made to believe that something happened when i= t really did not.

 

 

Rachelle Park

 


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I find it very interesting how so many eyewitness cases are false.  I am guessing that what you want to believe plays a big part.  I know in some cases, eye witnesses have strong feeli= ngs against or for a case and this can change the way they remember things= .  They set their minds and often times convince themselves.  I am excited to learn more on this very interesting subject. 

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=0D =0D ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9434A.E7B67916-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 16:46:50 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Kristie Blanch) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:46:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] POST 10 Message-ID: <177103.32200.qm@web56507.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --0-1811687240-1226335610=:32200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KRISTIE BLANCH PSY 3120 11/10/2008 POST 10 Changing History: Something from Nothing >From recent lectures on memory, it would seem a good analogy for memory wou= ld be silly putty, insomuch that it can be reformed and manipulated in what= ever way we choose. It is shocking to me that we can re-create memories (re= coded engram) that differ greatly from the actual occurrence (original even= t). I=92m sure we all have accounts of certain childhood memories that are = divergent from those of our siblings or parents. My little brother always s= eems to remember things quite differently from the rest of my siblings and = me! Who is right? It is difficult to say, as we are all so certain that our= memories reflect what really happened, and as we have learned in lecture, = confidence in memory does not predict accuracy. =A0 Even more striking than mere manipulations of memory is the fact that memor= ies can be created.=A0 In recent years, there have been several accounts of= clients in therapy actually generating memories - often horrific, and high= ly graphic =96 of childhood sexual abuse and satanic rituals. These clients= are put in a suggestible state, then, by evocative guidance from the thera= pist, they uncover these traumatic events that never actually happened. But= , now that these events have been experienced in the mind, they will be sto= red in long-term memory, where they can be recalled and relived. These peop= le have changed their perceived history. And, since perceived reality is re= ality, it is just as real as perhaps recalling what one ate for breakfast. = It is incredible and a little frightening to me that we have the ability to= create something where there was nothing.=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-1811687240-1226335610=:32200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
KRISTIE BLANCH
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Changing History: Something from Nothing

From recent l= ectures on memory, it would seem a good analogy for memory would be silly p= utty, insomuch that it can be reformed and manipulated in whatever way we c= hoose. It is shocking to me that we can re-create memories (recoded engram)= that differ greatly from the actual occurrence (original event). I=92m sur= e we all have accounts of certain childhood memories that are divergent fro= m those of our siblings or parents. My little brother always seems to remem= ber things quite differently from the rest of my siblings and me! Who is ri= ght? It is difficult to say, as we are all so certain that our memories ref= lect what really happened, and as we have learned in lecture, confidence in= memory does not predict accuracy.  

Even more striking than me= re manipulations of memory is the fact that memories can be created.  In= recent years, there have been several accounts of clients in therapy actua= lly generating memories - often horrific, and highly graphic =96 of childho= od sexual abuse and satanic rituals. These clients are put in a suggestible= state, then, by evocative guidance from the therapist, they uncover these = traumatic events that never actually happened. But, now that these events h= ave been experienced in the mind, they will be stored in long-term memory, = where they can be recalled and relived. These people have changed their per= ceived history. And, since perceived reality is reality, it is just as real= as perhaps recalling what one ate for breakfast. It is incredible and a li= ttle frightening to me that we have the ability to create something where t= here was nothing.


=0A=0A --0-1811687240-1226335610=:32200-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Mon Nov 10 18:55:23 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:55:23 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: mode Gretchen's post Message-ID: <20081110115523.gtapayx99cg0wcs4@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> This message is in MIME format. --=_4avnhbisqiec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Forwarded message from Gretchen.Casto@utah.edu ----- Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:05:03 -0700 From: GRETCHEN CASTO Reply-To: GRETCHEN CASTO Subject: mode To: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Aftrer reading more about HM and others like him I wonder if there is a possibility of retraining parts of the brain. He was able to remember ceratin things more on a physical level but not necessarily remember the causal events. Would it be possible to retrain any part of the brain? Can specific parts of the memory system take over wher others are lacking? It would be awful to have one such condition. ----- End forwarded message ----- --=_4avnhbisqiec Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C942E9.822F94EF"; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from ipo4hsc.utah.edu (ipo4hsc.utah.edu [155.97.131.100]) by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mAA459hS019757 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:05:09 -0700 (MST) X-SBRS: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,572,1220248800"; d="scan'208,217";a="83840673" Received: from smtp1.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.149]) by ipo4smtp.cc.utah.edu with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 09 Nov 2008 21:05:04 -0700 Received: from CAMPUSV5.xds.umail.utah.edu ([155.97.181.70]) by smtp1.umail.utah.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:05:04 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C942E9.822F94EF" Subject: mode Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:05:03 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mode Thread-Index: AclC6YIlhiS/oL5QQkmLFk1jWBzogQ== From: "GRETCHEN CASTO" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2008 04:05:04.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[828112C0:01C942E9] Content-Length: 1457 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942E9.822F94EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aftrer reading more about HM and others like him I wonder if there is a possibility of retraining parts of the brain. He was able to remember ceratin things more on a physical level but not necessarily remember the causal events. Would it be possible to retrain any part of the brain? Can specific parts of the memory system take over wher others are lacking? It would be awful to have one such condition. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C942E9.822F94EF Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=

Aftrer reading more = about HM and others like him I wonder if there is a possibility of = retraining parts of the brain.  He was able to remember ceratin = things more on a physical level but not necessarily remember the causal = events. Would it be possible to retrain any part of the brain? Can = specific parts of the memory system take over wher others are lacking? = It would be awful to have one such condition.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C942E9.822F94EF-- --=_4avnhbisqiec-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 16:27:40 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Eric Halgren) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:27:40 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Narrowing of attention Message-ID: <76b5b1710811110827v7d8fb60dwd932cec7cadc7f83@mail.gmail.com> On page 179 of the book it said that arousal causes a narrowing of attention. Is it possible to control that narrowing? What kind of people are able to keep their attention clear in those times. It brings to mind people at war or maybe ninjas. Is there specific training people have taken to maybe heighten their awarness instead of it narrowing? -- Sent from my mobile device From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 17:41:05 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Aaron Norton) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:41:05 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Victim ID Message-ID: ------=_Part_56842_6011502.1226425265977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The video we watched in class was really interesting. I would think that the victim's memories have been even further changed since Cotton (or whatever his name was, talk about memory issues) was shown to be innocent. I would think that she would remember her "certainty" in his identification as being even more concrete than it was even weeks before his release. That may just be because of cognitive dissonance, but I think it would have been very interesting to get her testimony weeks before the final retrial and after his subsequence exoneration. -Aaron Norton ------=_Part_56842_6011502.1226425265977 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The video we watched in class was really interesting.  I would think that the victim's memories have been even further changed since Cotton (or whatever his name was, talk about memory issues) was shown to be innocent.  I would think that she would remember her "certainty" in his identification as being even more concrete than it was even weeks before his release.  That may just be because of cognitive dissonance, but I think it would have been very interesting to get her testimony weeks before the final retrial and after his subsequence exoneration.
-Aaron Norton
------=_Part_56842_6011502.1226425265977-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 17:53:28 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:53:28 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Fwd: Childhood Amnesia and Alzheimer's - Mary's post Message-ID: <20081111105328.ysdrc1av9c40oog4@webmail.csbs.utah.edu> This message is in MIME format. --=_7c3unqf228kc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from dindymene@gmail.com ----- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:50:08 -0700 From: Mary Elizabeth Reply-To: Mary Elizabeth Subject: Childhood Amnesia and Alzheimer's To: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Cc: ann.lambert@psych.utah.edu Clive's wife, Deborah said that Clive was showing us unfiltered human passion. This made me think about what Dr. Strayer said about childhood amnesia, that the encoding process was probably different because as children, we communicate and think more in terms of emotions rather than in terms of language. I wonder if there is a sort of switching process that happens as we grow up and that when there is damage either due to illness, accident or age, we revert on some level to this older encoding processI know that as I have observed family members and friends with Alzheimer's, it does appear that the memories that endure the longest and even seem to override those gained later in life are very old and emotional in nature. They might assume people around them are childhood friends or their parents or siblings. . It would be interesting to dig around and see if anyone has done research to that effect. ----- End forwarded message ----- --=_7c3unqf228kc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C93F23.8223CF80"; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from ipo3.cc.utah.edu (ipo3.cc.utah.edu [155.97.131.71]) by pip.csbs.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA5FoJeX002725 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:50:19 -0700 (MST) X-SBRS: 3.8 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlEBAP9OEUnRVcbuimdsb2JhbACCTS2KKIY5PgEBAQoJDAcPBathgQCLOwEDAQODUIMv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,551,1220248800"; d="scan'208,217";a="82141949" Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.238]) by ipo3.cc.utah.edu with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 08:50:13 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so87812rvb.57 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:50:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=LmzDuY/e7EbBNHBLcERWg9VIWHaEDd8KCg6p35tb6CY=; b=k1d8JRUWKygTEUPieS7cso3jGJ7oYXlQBReYBhHDOhFhllFNLBpbAHMwucHR3s/Z7h 1XAXyZJK6gcRDxKYlDWikCS17krez6fqPuE+ThfVpBEwbI9X3puREiV57rVediSSwG5N EDgiUAuJTCjN9d9FWjRFRAhFdT7t9KYBax/hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=xQsTWmtPWbkSuGsIRj7ybdeiGAH3F6YGPI1x7rQ2daYb1FHxMhxglbZNg1UuZ7LuEQ EVydgUBOW4UuX52nkwh1hGOmrbEPQfu9dnwzeMuyVUgQ3eSmPO7rtRRFcEelAUr3upGh ZhgLTK0QLVl0TTv8IFbSLoV7njLWt/ghmylqc= Received: by 10.141.48.10 with SMTP id a10mr486657rvk.71.1225900213580; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from MEWLaptop (ovelorem.dsl.xmission.com [166.70.56.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm20570rvf.0.2008.11.05.07.50.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Mary Elizabeth" To: Cc: Subject: Childhood Amnesia and Alzheimer's Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: <005a01c93f5e$2e82a780$8b87f680$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C93F23.8223CF80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack/Xi0aqIFSf9+fQy6V5IJ+/gkH1A== Content-Language: en-us Content-Length: 3788 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C93F23.8223CF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clive's wife, Deborah said that Clive was showing us unfiltered human passion. This made me think about what Dr. Strayer said about childhood amnesia, that the encoding process was probably different because as children, we communicate and think more in terms of emotions rather than in terms of language. I wonder if there is a sort of switching process that happens as we grow up and that when there is damage either due to illness, accident or age, we revert on some level to this older encoding processI know that as I have observed family members and friends with Alzheimer's, it does appear that the memories that endure the longest and even seem to override those gained later in life are very old and emotional in nature. They might assume people around them are childhood friends or their parents or siblings. . It would be interesting to dig around and see if anyone has done research to that effect. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C93F23.8223CF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Clive’s wife, Deborah said that Clive was = showing us unfiltered human passion.  This made me think about what Dr. = Strayer said about childhood amnesia, that the encoding process was probably = different because as children, we communicate and think more in terms of emotions = rather than in terms of language.  I wonder if there is a sort of = switching process that happens as we grow up and that when there is damage either = due to illness, accident or age, we revert on some level to this older encoding processI know that as I have observed family members and friends with = Alzheimer’s, it does appear that the memories that endure the longest and even seem = to override those gained later in life are very old and emotional in = nature.  They might assume people around them are childhood friends or their = parents or siblings.  .  It would be interesting to dig around and see if = anyone has done research to that effect.

------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C93F23.8223CF80-- --=_7c3unqf228kc-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 18:29:35 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Jose Chu-Jon) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:29:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Psych3120] MEMORY VIDEO Message-ID: <313648.75439.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1449266920-1226428175=:75439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I really thought todays video was really well done and the victims testimonies were quite emotionally bearing. The part that really stood out to me was the part were Ron Cotton started writing those letters it really made me think about how the justice system sometimes defeats its own purpose of making people feel free and protected, yeah sure the justice system makes mistakes but Ron Cottons life was taken away for almost 11 years// Any way Elizabeth Loftus' statement about how even though we may go through some extremely dramatic experiences we cant just record what we saw or go through, its just not an image we can later on replay, was for me a step back moment// Many times I defend my own situations and try to justify my reasons by some emotional and/or dramatic memories, this doesn't necessarily mean that its true it just means that we are confident on what we believe and that can sometimes interrupt our memory. --0-1449266920-1226428175=:75439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I really thought todays video was really well done and the victims testimonies were quite emotionally bearing. The part that really stood out to me was the part were Ron Cotton started writing those letters it really made me think about how the justice system sometimes defeats its own purpose of making people feel free and protected, yeah sure the justice system makes mistakes but Ron Cottons life was taken away for almost 11 years// Any way Elizabeth Loftus' statement about how even though we may go through some extremely dramatic experiences we cant just record what we saw or go through, its just not an image we can later on replay, was for me a step back moment// Many times I defend my own situations and try to justify my reasons by some emotional and/or dramatic memories, this doesn't necessarily mean that its true it just means that we are confident on what we believe and that can sometimes interrupt our memory.

--0-1449266920-1226428175=:75439-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 20:15:03 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Alison Jean Kunz) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Post- Movie in class References: <200811111906.mABJ65Jt025435@topo.csbs.utah.edu> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9443A.D665C84C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found the video we watched in class today really interesting. In our = society today with all the CSI-type shows, it seems a given that DNA is = a major form of evidence used to determine someone's guilt or innocence. = However, this clearly has only been the case for a relatively short = time period and it is shocking how easy it seemed to be to wrongly = convict someone, especially based on eyewitness testimony alone. 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found today's video very interesting.=A0 I heard about this story in my s= ocial psychology class before, but it was interesting to learn about it aga= in from the cognitive psychologist perspective.=A0 I had learned in my soci= al psychology class that the people have a harder time identifying someone = of another race then themselves (I think this is especially interesting in = the south where there=A0is deep seeded racism and prejudice).=A0 Compound t= hat factor with a high-stress situation and coding and recoding memory it i= s easy to see how Cotton's situation could happen!=A0 It is scary to think = that anyone could be wrongly accused and go to jail for 11 years!! It is al= so scary to think that someone may not believe your eyewitness testimony th= at you believe is so accurate!=A0 Somehow there needs to be a middle ground= in the justice system - that works for the eyewitness and also the accused= party.=0A=0A=0A --0-1980214409-1226439210=:81987 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I found today's video very interesting.  I heard about this story in my social psychology class before, but it was interesting to learn about it again from the cognitive psychologist perspective.  I had learned in my social psychology class that the people have a harder time identifying someone of another race then themselves (I think this is especially interesting in the south where there is deep seeded racism and prejudice).  Compound that factor with a high-stress situation and coding and recoding memory it is easy to see how Cotton's situation could happen!  It is scary to think that anyone could be wrongly accused and go to jail for 11 years!! It is also scary to think that someone may not believe your eyewitness testimony that you believe is so accurate!  Somehow there needs to be a middle ground in the justice system - that works for the eyewitness and also the accused party.

--0-1980214409-1226439210=:81987-- From psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu Tue Nov 11 21:39:45 2008 From: psych3120@lists.csbs.utah.edu (Richard Eric Shelton) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:39:45 -0700 Subject: [Psych3120] Memories and the Law Message-ID: <5B0D55A102C3104F8992F86B340F3132010D7FD6@CAMPUSV2.xds.umail.utah.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_