market socialism: transional or utopian?

Justin Schwartz jschwart at
Sat Nov 5 14:24:59 MST 1994

On Sat, 5 Nov 1994 tgs at wrote:

> Justin,
> Frankly, in addition to my other criticisms, i don't even see the superiority
> of "market socialism" as a way of talking to workers.  Whereas the transitional
> program, which sets its sights on planning, talks to people about where they
> are and what they need--as does Reich with his Sex-Pol, by the way--"market
> socialism" is to mind a pie-in-the-sky academic concept.  Hey, all your problems
> can be solved if we tinker a little with the market.  That's completely
> disconnected from talking about what we have to do to get from here to the
> good society.
> What do you say to workers about market socialism that is so superior to
> the transitional program, to focusing on people's concrete needs, connecting
> these to the needs of the entire class, and showing how capitalism won't work
> to fulfill these needs?  Why is it that "market socialism" is superior to this
> kind of approach?  It seems to me it would calm people down rather than rile
> them up: "Ah, Justin has all the answers for the future, let him and his new
> class of market socialist state technocrats run the show; we'll just sit back
> and watch it happen." The notion of planning, because it involved the concept
> of democracy, is intrinscically more exciting, and gets people thinking
> about how they connect their own needs to the creation of the larger society.
> It may not be anything like they've ever known before.  But perhaps that is
> what might excite them the most" because everything they have known before stinks.

My cover is blown. I'm not a socialist at all. I'm a capitalist technocrat
opposed to democracy who wants st stop people from thinking and calm down
rebellion and resistance. I'm probably in the pay of the CIA and the
imperialist powers and no doubt I want Serbia bombed into the ground.

Shoot, I wish I had realized this before. Then I wouldn't have written all
those papers on Marxism, lost my job, and made myself, apparently
academically unemployable.

I will have to ask the CIA where my checks have been going.



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