John R. Tegtmeier tegtmeie at
Wed Sep 14 15:28:48 MDT 1994

I am really interested in knowing whether you see this problem of
intellectual properity and alienation as one of capitalism or the
organizational culture of the university.  It would seem that all the
critiques that you make are just as applicable to any socio-economic
system.  Certainly, ideas and concepts developed by students are
appropriated by dishonest faculty advisors for the purpose of their own
advancement in any system.

In regards to the use of Marx in the social sciences, I seriously doubt
that one needs to be a marxist to recognize the contribution of Marx to
the development of several important concepts, and that being the case,
it is appropriate to review his work.  It is disingenious to imply
anything further, and it is certainly logically unsound.

John Tegtmeier

On Wed, 14 Sep 1994, Sam D Fassbinder wrote:

> 1) My error in misquoting Stephen Grossman to Philip Goldstein.  I apologize.
> 2) Academic commodification really is a problem.  The academic bourgeoisie
> have made the word "Marx" their own, for the sake of looking hip -- a recent
> HARPER'S cites Marx as the most often-cited author in the humanities.  Now
> don't tell me that ALL of those people are Marxists!  There are other
> examples of this problem: a) for instance, a friend of mine who was accepted
> here at Ohio State, that bastion of career academics, claims that she refused
> a TAship at the University of Georgia because the university would have made
> her sign a contract stipulating that everything she wrote was the
> intellectual property of the University. b) even then, your own ideas are the
> intellectual property of your adviser, whether it's legal or not.  Suppose
> you are a graduate student and your adviser takes an idea you used in a
> paper, publishes it as his/her own, and denies you credit.  What are you
> going to do, sue? (***laughter***) You have to make a name for yourself if
> you want to advance.
> 3) I really hate to see Marxists pretend they live outside of the influences
> of capital.  Being in a university is a job, like any other job under
> capitalism, and within the university one experiences the alienation of one's
> labor.  Beyond that I really haven't a thoroughly-sketched theory of the
> place of the university within capitalism.


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