Leo Casey on Zulus and Irish

Paul Cockshott wpc at clyder.gn.apc.org
Thu Aug 10 08:28:55 MDT 1995


Louis
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As far as Ireland is concerned, the Irish are one people. The Ulster
minority should retain democratic and civil liberties in a united
Ireland, just as Afrikaners now enjoy in South Africa. This was the
position of nationalists like James Connolly.

Paul
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That was indeed the position of nationalists like Connolly.
The question is, what should be the position of communists.
Within northern ireland the protestants constitute a majority
not a minority. This is why they are a problem. Not only are
they a majority, but one willing in the past to take up arms
to defend their self determination.

It may be that as far as Ireland - ie irish nationalist ideolgy,
the irish are one people - but from the standpoint of ulster
ideology they are not. No amount of telling those formed by
one nationalist ideology that they should abandon it for another
will work. Your 'should' can only be enforced at the point of
gun. At which point we have to ask which army is to enforce your
'should'?

This type of situation is quite general in Europe. It is a consequence
of nationalist ideology pursuing the myth of the nation state.
But all over the continent we find populations adhering to
different nationalism inter-mixed. The reason why marxists
need a democratic line on the national question is to provide
a way of resolving such issues without resort to force, and
equally importantly, without allowing themselves to become
identified with one or the other of the potential belligerants.


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