Relative Autonomy?

Andy Daitsman adaitsma at mail.trincoll.edu
Thu Jul 6 12:49:52 MDT 1995


Scott, are you trying to open up the relative autonomy debate?  I thought
this issue was pretty well settled.

Andy

Scott Marshall responding to Lisa wrote:

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>>Victor, thanks for facts.  It was someone else on this list who said
>>(before I did) that there was also a divergence between Nazi
>>interests and big German Capitalists' interests at some point, or in
>>some ways.  Even in the US, interests of the big manufacturers are
>>often not identical with interests of government (economic/power
>>interests).
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>I must have missed this post - but if the point is to show that the Nazi's
>had different interests than those of big capital or that somehow fascism
>can arise metaphysically from some other source than captialism this I would
>love to see, also.
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>If as you maintain some times the US government does not have the same
>interests as big business, then whose interests do they represent in those
>times? Do you believe that the state can stand above the class struggle as
>some kind of neutral force, or can have interests of it's own seperate from
>the class struggle? I think it can be shown very well that even when the
>government is forced to make concessions to the working class (ie: labor
>laws, enviornmental laws, affirmative action) they still represent the
>interests of big business and immediatly take steps to 'interpret' or
>otherwise use the laws for the benefit of capital.
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>To me this is fairly basic marxism on the role of the state including (and
>moreso) in periods of fascism.
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>>Anybody got facts on differences between Nazis and Capitalists?
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>>Lisa
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