racism in East Europe
jlaari at kanto.cc.jyu.fi
Mon Jun 12 13:49:37 MDT 1995
On Mon, 12 Jun 1995, Lisa Rogers wrote:
> I heard from Europeans, when I was in East Europe (...)
> This of course is the spin that their [pre-89] news put on it, and
> many people asked me, the only American they had talked to (...)
Exactly where you were, and when? I'm just curious...
> Just when I thought that they were properly dismayed by racism in
> general, however, somebody would say, "I think that America's Black
> problem is the same as our Gypsy problem,"
Yes, there have been a gypsy problem for centuries... And in some parts
of (eastern) Europe it has become more urgent, because the jewish problem
> Now that I know a lot more about socialism and capitalism, I am
> amazed at how uneducated many people were, mostly young people, that
> I met.
That's why I asked where you've been. On one hand, education in
socialist countries was in several ways terrific - you've met civilized,
well learned people to whom Goethe and Voltaire etc were daily fellows,
and who wondered how anyone can read books like the ones by Stephen King.
On the other hand, you've met those people from backwoods... But isn't it
something like that everywhere?
"Mostly young people": doesn't that implicate, that the soviet system
was rather degenerated well before the fall (that is, the educational
system didn't worked at all - or operated it too properly?)
> When I told them that capitalism has some bad effects and that there
> were socialists in US, they thought I was joking.
There are lots of people in capitalist/western Europe who think just like
that. I was amazed when I learned about American socialists and
anarchists - I had believed that nearly all people west of east coast big
cities are nigger-bashing whiteys, and that the rest are neurotic
intellectuals (described by Philip Roth and Woody Allen)...
Yours, Jukka Laari
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