Paper on Value on ftp site

Jon Beasley-Murray jpb8 at
Tue Mar 7 15:33:28 MST 1995

At the suggestion of Louis Project, I have put a new paper on our ftp site.

It is Andrew Kliman's "Marx's Development of the Concept of Intrinsic
Value, 1859-1872."  I have named the file "kliman.value."

Below I will put instructions on how to get hold of this paper, via.
gopher, ftp or the WWW.

I hope that Louis or Andrew will provide some kind of summary or
introduction of this paper for the benefit of the list, so people know
what they can expect when they look at it, and so the paper can become
part of the list's discussion.

Just to remind you all, at present we have the following on our ftp site:

Steve Keen's thesis on the Labour Theory of Value
James Lawler's paper on Lenin and the Socialist Transition in Russia
Hans Ehrbar's annotations on _Capital_ (primarily placed there for the
benefit of his class at the U. of Utah)

Plus, of course, this list's archives are also availble for perusal or

If anyone else has any suggestions for documents to put on this site, I
will happily do what I can.  I suspect that it would be best, however, if
they should be texts otherwise relatively unavailable, and for which we
can gain the permission of the author him or herself.

Take care


Jon Beasley-Murray
Literature Program
Duke University
jpb8 at

The Marxism discussion list and its ftp site--information

Our FTP directory at the IATH  now contains the following items:
Steve Keen's thesis on the Labour Theory of Value, James
Lawler's paper on "Lenin and the Socialist Transition in Russia,"
Hans Ehrbar's annotations on _Capital_ (there primarily for his
class at the U. of Utah) and Andrew Kliman's "Marx's Development
of the Concept of Intrinsic Value, 1859-1872."

To access any of them, please follow these instructions:

i. via. FTP

To connect to the IATH, say


You will get some reply, and then be asked for your login ID.


You will be asked for a password, to which you should reply with
your complete e-mail address (I think they just want that for
bookkeeping purposes, and my guess is that it's optional).

You will get a lengthy "welcome" message followed by the ftp prompt,
which is "ftp>".  Say

    cd pub/pubs/listservs/spoons/marxism.archive/papers

and then when it prompts you again, say

    ls -l

This will give you a list of all the files and their sizes.  It
should be clear which is which.  Say


to change to binary transfer mode (which is faster for all files
and necessary for compressed files).  Then for each file you
want to transfer, say

    get file-name

which will transfer the file to your machine.  This operation
may take a while, so be patient.

After each transfer is completed, you will get prompted again.
When you've gotten all the file you want, say


and you'll be out of ftp.

Sometimes connection is refused because the remote machine is too
busy.  If this happens, try again at some other time.

ii. via gopher

type gopher

then choose the following directories consecutively:
Publications of the Institute/Discussion Lists/spoons/marxism.archive/

You can read the files through gopher, or use your gopher software to
transfer the files to your own account.

iii. via World Wide Web

In your WWW browser, choose the URL

Then locate the archives (near the bottom of the page) and choose
marxism.archive. Then choose the directory "papers"

Any questions, don't hesistate to ask.

Jon Beasley-Murray
Literature Program
Duke University
jpb8 at

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