THE OGRE SPEAKS
rspear at primenet.com
Thu Mar 9 20:14:18 MST 1995
In article Ralph Dumain <rdumain at igc.apc.org> writes:
>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 17:26:12 -0800
>From: Ralph Dumain <rdumain at igc.apc.org>
>To: marxism at jefferson.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: THE OGRE SPEAKS
>Reply-To: marxism at jefferson.village.virginia.edu
>>My suggestion, then, is that we consider establishing a
>Why not forward a copy to the FBI, with cc's to CIA, NSA, etc.,
>while you are at it? I have no idea who is on the other end of
>the line either, nor how anyone is going to use the information I
>send out against me. I don't know who any of you are either, and
>yet I am not intimidated into silence. I say what I have to say
>as I would expect of any you to do.
Silly stuff, Ralph. My credentials are at least as valid as yours and I don't
see anything *threatening* about a database of credentials (though I haven't
any idea what purpose it might serve).
>Why make things so complicated? If you must know, I am no
>professor, and academic norms of discourse mean nothing at all to
>me. This is not a conference exclusively for the timorous
>academic elite. It is open to anyone. It is also about Marxism,
>ie. the unwashed masses who care not a fig for your norms. If you
>can't stand the heat, get out of the mother-fucking kitchen.
Actually, it is *not* open to anyone. Few newslists are. Enjoy the *privelege*
of participating, guy.
>>My one concern is that the "feel" of the list not be
>>intimidating precisely to newcomers,
>I am a newcomer and I don't care about the "feel" nor do I feel
>>those who are not necessarily used to academic or left
>>conventions of discourse etc.
>Who cares about academic conventions of discourse? I am no
>academic; I would rather choke first.
I agree with you about all the crap about academia. Sort of un-necessary,
>>those whom such discourses conventionally silence (women, gays
>Do not lump left with academic discourse, nor make condescending
>remarks about who is silenced thereby. Postmodern discourse
>silences all but academics (see below):
>>those without the "requisite" degree of educational and cultural
>>capital) and so on.
>I have a lot less cultural capital than most of you, I will bet,
>and I'll take you all on anyway. Your whining does not impress
>me, because I am the first person people like you exclude from
>your precious little coteries.
Ahhhhh, nobody has less cultural capital than me, Ralph. I can
out-workingclass you any day of the week.
>As for those of you offended by my tone, I suggest you focus your
>attention on the content of my remarks, ie. pay attention to what
>you are reading. It amazes me how many PhDs (esp. in English
>depts., esp. at places like Duke University) can't read. Too much
>obscurantist jargon addles the brain, perhaps?
Your tone is basically in my face ... and I resent it, asshole! Not that you
ain't got nothin' to say ... please try to *fuckin' communicate*, huh?
>Any more complaints? Form a line to kiss my ass.
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