Tudah & Iran

Scott Marshall Scott at rednet.org
Wed Nov 29 19:13:00 MST 1995

Well Marcus, most of your story seems to back up my original contention. I
never maintained (more importantly, nor does Tudah) that they made no
mistakes. Fatal, no. I'll admit to not knowing a lot about your friends, but
you still gave no examples of struggle or organization except those
initiated by the Tudah. Taking political positions on the nature of fascism,
while very enlightened I'm sure, is not a mass movement.

I do know that the Tudah continues to be at the heart of the resistance in
Iran and still maintains the factory organizations and broad ties to the
masses. So..... While I hate this stuff in the morning also, this was not
sarcasum aimed at you anyway. I also know that the only real work being done
in the US on Iran is Tudah inspired and quite broad and mass in its work.
Not that it means that much, but I know of know solidaritywork being done
under the leadership of or in solidarity with your friends.

>I have a friend who has been a revolutionary since he was 14 in Iran
>- he is now in his fifties. He spent 9 years in Khomeini's gaols. He
>was involved in the mass movement against the oil companies that led
>to a pre-revolutionary situation in Iran in the late 1950s - he was
>imprisoned for six months at the age of 15 for carrying a news sheet to
>school of the Tudeh party  before they split [as an aside - which
>of the Tudeh splits do you support Scott?].
>There were then two guerilla movements developed in Iran in the 60s
>in opposition to the Shah's regime. One a religious one - a mujahadeen
>(sp?) - the other a revolutionary socialist one.
>With the development of the revolutionary situation in the 70s, the
>guerillarists realised that they were cut off from the mass movement
>and move to the proletarian areas of the country. They devloped the
>position that a revolutionary communist party had been almost
>liquidated and they built an organisation - the Organisation of
>Revolutionary Workers of Iran - with the perspective of overthrowing
>the shah and instituting the power of the shoras.
>Well - Tudeh had other ideas. They saw the mullah's regime as a
>'stage', and 'anti-imperialist' stage to socialism. ORWI, in the
>period 1979-81 when the mullahs regime was not yet stable, made
>propaganda that the mullah's were the counterrevolution and that all
>power must be transferred to the shoras.
>They criticised themselves (in gaol and out) that they did not do
>enough in this period in building this perspective and only remained
>a propaganda group. Still, they did build an organisation and remain
>one of the few organisations in Iran with cells in industry under the
>It is from this friend that I developed the perpective that the
>mullahs were fascist, not merely bonapartist.
>A counterrevolution occurred. The new power doesn't look through the
>left and say "well, they had a stalinist stagist position which
>objectively saw us as a progressive force which helped quash the
>revolution" Of course not. The mulllahs regime killed members of the
>capitalist class, sunni muslims (the mujahadeen fighting them),
>revolutionaries and Tudeh. Fascists don't discriminate too much when
>they are consolidating their power.
>So there are my 'oh so pure friends' Scott who have never 'led a mass
>movement'. And guess what - they did make mistakes, but not the fatal
>mistake of supporting a bunch of fuckwit fascists as a 'progressive
>anti-imperialist regime'.
>Scott. You are fundamentally wrong on this one buddy. And I reckon I
>know more on this one. Do some independent research - don't rely on
>your 'fraternal' links with stalinoid organisations.
>[it really bugs me to have to do this first thing in the morning]

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