Being in the world--there was a punchline??
jjazz at freenet.hamilton.on.ca
Sat Nov 11 23:56:00 MST 1995
On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Robert Peter Burns wrote:
> Let me ask Jim Jaszewski a question: does he think that what he
> has written below is right or rational or correct? If so, is he
> not relying on a presupposition of the normative validity of his
> own reasoning processes?
Like I didn't know you were going to take this line...
I still stand by what I said: Ethics and `rational thought' are
not any more `out there' than is the `aether' 19th Century physicists
If he is, how can he simultaneously
> rely on the normative validity of his reasoning processes to
> cast doubt on the reality, meaningfulness and validity of normative/
> logical/rational relations, and claim that they are merely natural
> <presumably causal?> relations involving natural organisms? Is
> this not incoherent?
I'll state it more clearly: YOU THINK TOO MUCH ABOUT NOTHING.
By your twisted logic, of COURSE I can't PROVE nuthin', but by MY
logic, the `proof is in the pudding'... Cogito; ergo: _sum_ -- n'est-ce
pas?? What a nightmare. Pull myself up by my own bootstraps (sounds
Using yer basic familiar Razor of Occam, I can reiterate:
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. I exist. You exist.
This world is real. We're animals. Some animals spend a LOT of their
time thinking useless shit.
If I can't understand why I act, I also won't ascribe it to some
Platonic ectoplasm of emotion and `reason'`out there' somewhere.
On the other hand, perhaps Jim doesn't
> think that what he has written below is right or rational or correct.
> Perhaps he is conceding that it has no normative validity, but
> is mere "projection" of his own "abstractions" or a "survival strategy"
> on his part. But then why should I bother to answer him?
Why indeed? Why even bother to come onto an atheistic List?
> perhaps Jim is here conceding something I suggested in a previous
> post; namely that he might have some difficulty in proving he has
> a mind. Is that a funny enough punchline for you, Jim? And can
> we drop it *now*?
Geeze; a komedian...
You *don't* have to reply...
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