Ireland and Orange

KARL CARLILE pad at iol.ie
Mon Nov 13 16:48:00 MST 1995


Dear Magnus:

In your correspondence you remark that:

"But he (ian Paisley) isn't a Nazi. Classic
Orangism involves incorporating trade unions
members into the Orange lodges etc, not
smashing trade unions. Orangism depends on
the consent of the protestant working class,
expressed not unimportantly through the
ballot box. This has always given socialists,
catholic + protestant, room to organise,
especially now, when economic circumstances
have weakened the hold of unionism over
protestant workers."

To claim that "Orangeism depends on the consent of the protestant working
class, expressed not unimportantly through the ballot box" misses a
significant point.It is not a matter of consent of the working class but
Orangeism as a bourgeois form actively seeking to undermine and disarm the
"Protestant" working class in Ireland to the point where it lacks a
revolutionary leadership. In this way it share a common feature with many
bourgeois and petit bourgeois movements:the struggle to undermine and disarm
the working class as an independently organized political force. This is the
ideological and political function of Orangeism in Ireland, The Democratic
Party in the United States and the SACP in South Africa.
 
                   Yours etc.,
                              Karl Carlile

Yours etc.,
           Kaarl Carlile   



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