hariette spierings hariette at easynet.co.uk
Thu Apr 4 05:12:29 MST 1996

>HARIETTE at EASYNET.CO.UK, hai scritto alle 00:00:28, 4 March
> HA> Of course,
> HA> when a Communist Party has to participate in a
> HA> national liberation struggle (or bourgeois democratic
> HA> revolution) it must perforce subordinate the immediate
> HA> class struggle of the proletariat to the national
> HA> interest (of an oppressed country).
>     "The Communist Party (...) must clearly separate the
>interests of the oppressed classes, of the workers and of the
>toilers, from the general concept of the so called national
>interests" ("Thesis on the national and colonial question" of
>the Comintern, July 28, 1920, my translation from Italian)
>You mean that "separate" is equal to "subordinate", Chairman
>Oleachea? Or are you a revisionist of Leninism on the national
>question? All your post is a negation of the above elementary
>Leninist principle.

In order to be able to defer, or subordinate, you must be able to separate,
to understand clearly what is what.  The question of subordination is linked
to the question of separation.

What we are talking here is subordinating the immediate interests to the
long term ones.  And that is what Marxism is all about.  Subordination does
not mean to give those interests up.  It means to always take care of the
long term interests of the proletariat as a WHOLE in defending or advancing
those interests.  It only means to be able to separate and advance or defer
them according to what serves the class's long term interests best,
interests, that in the last analysis, are the real interests of humankind.

It is in the long term interests of humanity, for the proletariat to seize
power and build socialism in one country - precisely because it is so
difficult and ardous and precarious.

The easy way is always in the immediate interest of class and Party.
Concessions from the bourgeoisie are thus obtained.  Not that concessions
are to be sniffed at, only to subordinate them to the long term interests
and be ready to sacrife them at the "drop of a hat", if necessary, at a
moment's notice.  That is the meaning of subordination of the immediate

The Nevski Prospekt of the revolution does not require sacrifices, defeats,
losses, millions of dead and wounded, since without raising the banner of
proletarian dictatorship, the imperialists would have no reason to try take
it down with their butchers knifes.  It is in humanity's interests, not
simply those of the proletariat, and certainly not from the point of view of
the immediate economic interests of the proletariat of the oppressor
countries, to defeat fascism and to support the national liberation
movements, for example.

Such proletarian actions, subordinating the immediate interests to the long
term ones, do not put bread in the table, nor raise salaries or living
standards as such.  Reforms are a by-product of struggle for the long term
aims of the proletariat - the abolition of classes and the communist
society.  To that aim everything is subordinated. And is that aim in the
interest of the proletariat alone? To say otherwise is really revisionism!

Adolfo Olaechea

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