MIM replies to Matt on burger-flippers

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Fri Aug 16 12:37:36 MDT 1996


At 3:22 PM 8/15/96, Maoist Internationalist Movement wrote:

>MIM replies: MIM never said we are the only Maoist party in the world.
>We have said there are no others in the imperialist countries.
>Of course, from your Eurocentric point of view along with
>the view of similar chauvinists on this list, the imperialist
>countries are the whole world.

Cut to... "We are the world/we are the children...."

>What you are talking about here is people who realistically
>can expect not to be working as hamburger-flippers very long.
>If you had read MT#1, you would know that already.

Must be an awful lot of people cycling through the retail sector (of which
burger-flipping is a part):

     goods-prod'g                      service-producing
     -------------  ---------------------------------------------------------
                              trade                           government
                          -------------
-------------------
      total   mfg   total wh'sale retail  FIRE  health    total    US   st/loc

1940  40.5%  34.3%  59.5%   5.8%  15.1%   4.7%            13.0%   3.0%
1950  40.0%  33.1%  60.0%   6.0%  15.2%   4.3%            13.4%   4.2%
1960  38.4%  31.5%  61.6%   5.8%  15.1%   4.8%   2.8%     15.1%   4.1%  11.0%
1970  34.1%  28.2%  65.9%   5.6%  15.4%   5.1%   4.2%     17.4%   3.8%  13.6%
1980  29.2%  23.0%  70.8%   5.8%  16.6%   5.6%   5.7%     17.7%   3.1%  14.7%
1990  23.0%  17.6%  77.0%   5.7%  18.0%   6.1%   7.0%     16.6%   2.8%  13.8%
1996  20.3%  15.3%  79.7%   5.5%  18.1%   5.8%   8.0%     16.3%   2.3%  14.0%

>With regard to youth, a white youth working even in a
>manufacturing job has much different future prospects
>than the 53-year-old oppressed nation worker in the same job.
>The white youth accurately expects to be promoted into
>white-collar work, maybe go to college. Such a youth is
>NOT the same class as the 53-year-old machine worker who
>is going to stay in that job, unless the older machine worker
>is also labor aristocracy already. One is semi-proletarian and the
>other is likely unexploited productive sector. But the
>point is even if you took the Paul Cockshott line and
>said the machine worker is exploited, the white youth
>would be in a starkly different class. It's not a matter
>of skin color, but hard factual reality.

I hadn't realized there were no white folks who retired or dropped dead as
janitors or machinists. The things you learn from MIM!

Doug

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