Centrally planned economy

Kevin Cabral kcabral at freenet.columbus.oh.us
Sun Jun 2 16:09:31 MDT 1996

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Louis N Proyect wrote:

> Louis: Gorbachev was not an ideological market socialist in the same way
> our Western economists are. He simply identified with the "reforms" of
> Eastern Europe that were instituted from the 1950s on. I don't know if he
> was more of a "social democrat" than a market socialist, but then I don't
> know if there is much different politically. They both represent
> accomodations to capitalism.

	How does market socialism represent an "accomodation to
capitalism?" Ask the capitalists who would be expropriated under an MS
system if it makes accomodations.

> > 	Also, please respond to the criticism of Cockshott and your
> > "super-computer" system as being top-down in your response to my initial
> > challenge. Do you agree or disagree that Cockshott's model is highly
> > top-down and essentially orders workers to produce this and that like a
> > plantation owner would order a farm-hand?

> Louis: I don't recall any challenge, so I'm not exactly sure what you're
> talking about. I think it is useful to separate the economic issues from
> the political issues. Unless we have a "top-down" approach to world
> socialism, it simply won't work. The world's economies are too
> interrelated and the environmental crisis too deep to permit solutions on
> a national scale. There must be a plan and it must deal with the global
> economy.

	I'm discussing how a system based entirely on top-down economic
planning can lead to alienation of the worker within each firm. I will
re-read Cockshott's book tonight, or at least some of its important parts,
and make further comment on that issue later. Basically the question is:
how can we both exploitation, and alienation be eliminated in the
productive world (post-modernese for workplace) while allowing for choice
and convenience in the consumer world. And does the supercomputer system,
in its present draft, do enough to eliminate alienation.

Cols, Oh

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