re. labour aristocracy

Adam Rose adam at
Fri Jun 21 07:49:47 MDT 1996

> Seeing as my question about new cars seemed not to go down to
> well, let me ask another.
> Is it ecologically sustainable for the populations of India and
> China to consume goods and services at the same rate as that of
> an average US citizen?
> If the answer is no; is this because consumption in US society is
> skewed by the existence of a massively over consuming capitalist
> class? Or is it skewed by the existence of a moderately over
> consuming middle class - however that middle class is defined? Or
> is it that the US working class is consuming at a rate that is
> unsustainable on a world scale?

Because US society is organised on a capitalist basis, all classes in the
US are consuming at an environmentally dangerous rate. Because capitalism
is less advanced in China and India, and these countries have to compete
with the US, they are consuming at an even more ecologically unnacceptable
rate than people in the US. OK, so the US midwest has its floods + droughts,
caused by farming under capitalist constraints - but these don't exactly
compare with Indian floods and droughts, do they ?

If we can organise production without being dominated by the need to make
a profit, China, India + the US can be reorganised so that the standard
of living in ALL THREE countries rises for all the working class, all the
peasantry, and most of the middle class, at the same time as making all
our production increasingly consistent with a sustainable environment.

So, a short answer to your question : under socialism, it will be quite
environmentally sustainable for the vast majority of people in India, China
and the US to sustain a level of consumption far in excess of the current
consumption of the average US worker today.


Adam Rose


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