State Capitalism and Cuba

Kevin Cabral kcabral at
Fri Jun 21 20:19:00 MDT 1996

On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Louis N Proyect wrote:

> > I sense, Louis, that this is a dodge of the question. Please explain what
> > socialist property relations existed in Cuba... that is: did workers have
> > *control* of the means of production? I argue that there is a fundamental
> > difference between *nationalized* property relations and *socialist*
> > property relations.

> Louis: Workers "controlling" the means of production? If according to
> your party line, they had control in the USSR up until 1928, then by the
> same criteria they have had control in Cuba since 1960. Are you happy now?
	You're still dodging the question with your normal irritating
personal attacks. I'm interested in your answer. Do you see a
difference between nationalized and socialized (or socialist) forms of
production. Within nationalized forms of production could you draw a
distinct line between what is state capitalist, and what is a degenerate
worker's state. Are any of these categories sufficient to describe some of
the countries we have been talking about (ex. PRC, Vietnam, Cuba)?

Cols, Oh

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