'armed strikes' and workers' democracy : notes of a liquidator

hariette spierings hariette at easynet.co.uk
Thu Oct 3 19:14:03 MDT 1996

>     OK, fair enough.  You don't know who this Chiara was.
>I don't either.  If you don't, then why are you so sure
>that the decision to execute him was made fairly "by the
>masses," if indeed he was executed by the PCP, or if indeed
>he ever existed?
>     BTW, I remind you that I have always been very careful
>to state the limits of my knowledge and the related depths
>of my ignorance regarding Peruvian affairs.  I don't know
>what the facts are here, and apparently you don't either.
>So, perhaps you should be a bit more careful about what you
>say before you, as you frequently do, start lobbing all
>kinds of accusations around.
>Barkley Rosser
>On Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:40:56 +0100 (BST) hariette spierings
><hariette at easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Adolfo,
>> >     Seriously, do you have a statement from one of your
>> >generals about Chiara to validate the "decision of the
>> >masses" regarding him?
>> >
>> Look Rosser - you give credence to the allegations of the Peruvian maleckis
>> - political fleas who are only known in Maleckian-Trotskyst circles and have
>> nothing but a couple of "Leftie Jehova's witnesses" posing as "militants" in
>> Peru.  Who this famous Chiara may be, I do not know.
>> What I know is that the slander against the Peruvian revolution accussing it
>> of "assassinating leftists" is a tactic in which the military high command
>> uses SPECIFICALLY this kind of of Zubatov agents and informers posing as
>> militants of the "left".
>> Here is what General Sinecio Jarama said in his interview:
>> "This is because many politicians have found it easy to speak of terrorism
>> and not of armed rebellion.  By doing so they can use the police and the
>> Armed Forces and throw them in to destroy the terrorists.  Finishing with
>> the terrorists the problem is finished.  But, are things really like that in
>> Peru?  No.
>> I am going to tell you something.  We are interested, for political and
>> strategic reasons to present the problem in these terms:
>> "Look here ladies and gentlemen:  the bloodthirsty methods of Shining Path!
>> Look here!  And the Human Rights organisations have not yet condemned them".
>> And we begin to parade some corpses:
>> "Look here!  Look how they assassinated Mrs Moyano (Mother Courage - the
>> "leftist" Maria Elena Moyano).  Look here!  LOOK HOW THEY assassinated THIS
>> And, about the roots of these problems?  Nothing.  This is how we have been
>> conducting things AND IT SUIT US.  It is one method.  We are at war.  We
>> always portray them as murderers.  But they are not murderers, it is simply
>> that we are engaged in a struggle for power with them".
>> Rosser, are you sure you did not go to the same Military Academy as the
>> Peruvian fascists generals?
>> If you did not, then you will see clearly that malecki's "martyred" hero
>> comes under the sub-title of THIS ONE, AND THIS OTHER, and that the
>> Trotskyst in this list are playing the same tune as the Military fascists
>> because it also SUITS THEM!
>> Adolfo

Do the Trotskyst sectarians in this list regurgitating the slanders of the
Poder Obrero Zubatovs and republishing the Peruvian Military High Command
line of saying:

"Look here, look at the bloodthirsty methods of Shining Path! Look how they
murdered our "good comrade Chiara", know anything either, except what the
policeman in charge of signing communiques in the name of this flea sized
Jehova's witness outfit Poder Obrero alleges?  Is this not exactly what the

No. They do not. And you do not either.  Neither do you, malecki, Plant, or
any other have the slightest idea if all those executed by the Russian
revolutionaries - let us only here refer to the period in which Trotsky was
also a member of the leadership of the revolution - charged by the masses
with sabotage, spying, disruption, etc, were each and every one guilty, of
if a miscarriage of justice had been committed.

The Mensheviks and the rest of the counter-revolutionaries abroad - like the
Trotskyst do today vis a vis the Peruvian revolution  - were also adopting
the same anti-revolutionary stance and alleging theat the Bolsheviks were
killing innocent fellow leftists.  In fact Trotsky was portrayed by them as
the most bloodthirsty of all Bolsheviks.

It sounds to me that next you are going to start demanding proof for every
victim of the French revolution, the Cromwell revolution, and so ad infinitum!

You and all this counter-revolutionaries with the emigree mentality of the
Bourbons dispute the right of the political power of the revolutionaries,
dispute the right of the revolution and erect yourself into cheap versions
of the US style supra-national defenders of "human rights" and judges, jury,
and executioners against the revolutionary right of the new state.

However, my conviction that the case of Walter Chiara - if it is a real case
at all - cannot but be part of this counter-revolutionary propaganda machine
is not only based on the existance of this policy as proven by the very
declarations of the Peruvian generals in charge of implementing it.

It is based on the simple fact that a revolutionary Party has no interest in
committing miscarriages of justice or even take measures to punish anyone
which would not meet with the approval of the masses.

16 years of People's War and the GROWING SUPPORT for the revolution, proves
that the Communist Party does not antagonise the masses, on the contrary,
proves the very facts that reasonable and principled Leftists themselves
admit, whatever their disagreements with the PCP.  Here the words of Marcial
Rubio from Desco, the United Left linked NGO, a man no one, not even the
slimy PLANTED fleas of Poder Obrero could accusse of being a "supporter of
Shining Path":

JOURNALIST - "Pardon our insistance, but in the short time we have been in
Peru, we have the impression that there is sympathy and a level of
acceptance for Shining Path among the population, and this can not be the
result of treating the people with such verticalism.......

MARCIAL RUBIO - "There is acceptance for Shining Path - even if this does
not respond to political motives - because it establishes (social) order.
The people know who their great betrayers are: the rich, the priests, the
police, the judges.  Those are the corrupt, and the people know it.  When
Shining Path comes, the people applaud them because it does away with the
rapists, the thiefs and the despicable tyrants with a gun and a uniform.

Look here.  I know about this little peasant community in the Andes.  In 160
years of Republican life in Peru, there was never any authority to enforce
the local teacher to comply with the timetable corresponding to his job.
The Shining Path arrived and called for an assembly, in which they asked the
population what their problems were.  Among other problems, the people said
that the teacher was not complying either with the hours or days in which he
was supposed to teach.  Then Shining Path fixed what the state never was
able to.  They said: The teacher will start teaching on Mondays and will
carry on until Fridays.  There is no more to say.  He must comply with his

Or better even, the words of a member of the rank and file of the United
Left in Peru who the journalists interviewed.  These are the words of Pablo,
a sociologist and leader of a Non Government Organisation:

"This idea, this fear felt by a certain part of Peruvian society  before
Shining Path is the consequence of the bourgeois media.  These have carried
out a campaign which is part and parcel of the counter-insurgency
sychological plans"

"Equally responsible are the intellectuals and the leaders of the legal
left.  We have spoken horrors against Shining Path, and this has been done
for two very concrete reasons:  Shining Path aims to conquer power, while
the Left aims to conquer parliamentary seats and bureaucratic positions.
Shining Path is working for a total change of the social structures while
the Left is trying to modernise and reform this state which no longer has
any life left on it".

"Currently the legal Left, the Right, the government, the state, and even
the devil, are trying to make Shining Path be the best pretext for their own
failure.  We are tormented and hurtful when recognising that we have failed,
before history, and before our own people, in practising what we had preached".

"Shining Path, on the other hand, does not talk a lot. They actually do
things.  They do.  Whether we like it or not. Rightly or wrongly before our
eyes and in relation to our principles:  I do not even know anymore what
these principles are now".

"I am very confident in what I am saying.  I do not think we have confronted
this issue with responsability and honesty. I believe that it is possible to
hold political talks with Shining Path.  It is quite another thing that many
popular leaders within any section of the legal left may not understand that
for Shining Path all tactical actions are geared to the seizure of power.
If they would realise that and meet criteria on that issue, it is possible
to have dialogue.  For me this is quite simple, I see the strategic
discourse (of the Left leaders) as quite logical, but how to they put it
into practice? What  practical basis do they have for it in reality?"

And Pablo again, talking about the Left and Shining Path:

"If Shining Path would want to expel all the leftist leaders and NGOs from
the shanty-towns and urban sprawls, they would do it.  They have the
necessary power.  However, there is still some there working in those areas,
and that is because in someway they have been consistent towards the people
and the peoples struggles".

In my personal case:  If the people among whom I work would want me out, I
would leave.  If it is Shining Path, I would not...... if I have not
promoted paternalism or anti-insurgency plans, the people themselves would
tell them that they cannot touch me.  And this has already happened with
several leaders.....but if the leader becomes aloof from his organisation,
or if his political, neighbourhood or non-government organisation has failed
in articulating a viable proposal in which his leading role is reflected,
the people will let him to fall, to die alone".

"That is what happened with Mrs Moyano. Let's be honest with that incident.
If the population would not had already been questioning her role, they
would have intervened on her behalf so that she would not have been
executed.  At least they would have warned her that they were coming to kill
her.  I am sure of that the people know those who killed her. They are still
living there in Villa El Salvador".

"If the people would have seen her as a good leader, they would, sooner or
later, have gone to the house of those who killed her and brought them out
to judge them.  But the people did not feel that she represented their

(From the Book "Peru - the Possible Paths" by Colombian journalist Hernan
Calvo Ospina and Belgian journalist Katjlin Declerq)

Was the "martyr" of the maleckian fleas of Poder Obrero a "good leader" or
even appreciated by his fellow workers?  Did he represent the interests of
the working people?  No. He represented the interestes of the class enemy of
the proletariat of all countries., and of the people of Peru.

Adolfo Olaechea

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