Same old sterile discussion

Louis N Proyect lnp3 at
Thu Oct 10 07:23:05 MDT 1996

On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Richard Bos wrote:

> I was wrong to accuse John Plant of acting, unknowingly, for the
> Fujimori fascists. I confused the intervention of PO with that of
> Quispe. I do not know enough about PO to say that. I do disagree with
> some of the things they say, especially from Mr Ponce, but that does not
> mean that they are all direct agents.

Louis: Speaking as somebody who has warm and comradely feelings toward JJ,
Richard and Adolfo alike, I want to speak in favor of avoiding the
temptation to turn Internet mailing lists into tribunals. Part of the
problem is that nothing can be proved. All you have is allegation after
allegation that clogs band-width without shedding light on the matter.

(I of course make an exception for myself in smoking out the

There is absolutely no reason why opponents of the PCP should not put
forward their analysis of how socialism can be won in Peru. When we are
dealingwith ideas, we can make progress. We simply don't have the means to
proveor disprove that somebody was "guilty" or not.

Furthermore, we have to be a little bit more critical in the way we think
of violent conflict on the left. While nobody in their right mind would
support the bloody Maoist or Vietnamese repression of Trotskyists, nobody
would use this as a litmus test for defining the revolutionary character
of these currents.

Another thing to keep in mind is that under conditions of fierce
repression and highly polarized factional warfare, even the most
enlightened forces can make mistakes. For example, Roque Dalton, a poet
and revolutionary, was murdered by political rivals on the Salvadoran

Also, just because a Trotskyist is being repressed, it doesn't mean that
the repression is wrong. For example, the Simone Bolivar brigade was ready
to launch an insurrectionary struggle against the FSLN the very first year
Somoza was overthrown. Was the FSLN wrong to put these adventurers on the
next plane to their country of origin? I don't think so.

At any rate, for those who want to re-ignite the PCP flame wars, I welcome
you to join Hans Egbar and Chris Burford's unmoderated list where all
sorts of shenanigans will be encouraged.

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