Olaechea escapes. He lost the debate!
lquispe at blythe.org
Thu Oct 10 09:51:34 MDT 1996
Members of the list,
After the snitch activity against The New Flag of the discredited charlatan
Olaechea and his partner in Toronto, the criminal Zodiac, we are returning to this list.
We have focused our work more in educating and mobilizing the masses here
in the U.S. and have participated in several rallies, conferences along with
the publication of The New Flag and the updates of the PCP Web page.
Our work in the internet was sabotaged by the infusion of a computer
virus that has crippled our scarse resources (mobile notebook,
First, we noted that a debate has began on the tale
spread by the reactionary forces and imperialism "the PCP kills leftists."
The case of Chiara and the infantile response of Olaechea that everyone
who opposes the People's War must be a police agent is not only stupid, but
contrarerevolutionary. Similarly, abroad, whoever disagrees with him or his
partner Arce Borja must be a CIA agent of . That's
not the line of the PCP and Olaechea was never a member of the PCP.
We are researching the Chiara case, specifically the work of the PCP in
the shoe factory "diamante" located at Avenida Argentina in Lima. This
case was also mentioned in the 1992 CIA Fact book and a SWP booklet against
the PCP. However, it doesn't mean we should dismiss it, we will post a
document on this matter shortly.
We will also post our replies to Arce Borja's article on the "perfect
impostor" and one or two cheer leaders of charlatan Olaechea. Keep posted.
The New Flag.
> I've been asked to forward this to the list.
> Adolfo lost the political debate. He wrote:
> "Once again, other more pressing motives force me to unsubscribe, if not
> today, tomorrow. I hope to find this list working upon my return, since for
> all its faults it is still an open space which should be preserved."
> He proved that he is lies and that he is a slander machine.
> He takes a position to press his followers to ask him don't leave. This is
> a typical maneouvre from electoralist demagoges.
> One person, Vladimir, which believes in Olaechea wrote:
> "Adolfo, WE ask you to do exactly the opposite. Do not be humble. Use your
> powerful language to tear the enemies of your revolution into pieces. Do
> "lose" your time spreading the truth about the revolution around the world
> by the Internet. DO NOT get yourself into the hands of Fujimori's
> torturers! And may be some day you will yet become the Chairman of Lima Soviet."
> Vladimir confesed:
> "I will do it not as an expert on Peruvian politics,
> because I am not"
> Vladimir, you confess that you don't know very much about Peru and that your
> main source of information is the reports from olaechea and the PCPSL. Why
> you don't want to listen other sources of information?
> I don't deny the existence of an internal war. It exists but not in the way
> as the PCP-SL presents it. The PCP-SL and the MRTA, which doesn't exist in
> Olaechea reports, made some guerrilla actions. Every week there are clashes.
> Nevertheless, these are minor forces. ALL THE LEFT is heavily reduced in
> Peru. The United Left, which use to have 1/4 or 1/3 of the votes, had less
> than 0.5% of the votes in the last election. The trotskysist which had 12%
> of the votes in 1978 and led many unions until the early 1980s are reduced
> to small groups with tens of members. The unions, which were capable of
> making big strikes, are substantially reduced. The PCP-SL and the MRTA, which
> mobilised thousands of combatants and had some support in several areas
> until 1992, are in a very isolated and marginal position.
> I am confessing that the forces which I support are very weak. Why?
> Because we suffer a defeat!
> In 1978-80 we had a revolutionary situation in Peru. There were massive
> general strikes. People went into the roads and made blockades. There were
> factory occupations. There were proto-soviets (people's assemblies). The
> people were moving to the left.
> What happened?
> Blanco was a fake-trotskyist. Despite his radicalism he didn't organise a
> party and soviets. He tailed the Maoists and Castroites which wanted a
> popular front with the bourgeoisie.
> In 1980 in a very sectarian way the ARI (a radical left front lead by
> Blanco) was divided. Belaunde took the opportunity of capitalising the
> popular discontent and he won the elections.
> In 1980 the mass radicalisation started to be diverted towards bourgeois
> democracy. The potential for a workers revolution was anulled by two
> forces: the electoralist stalinism and the militarist stalinism.
> The United Left and the PCP-SL armed struggle begun in the same year.
> The United Left controled the mass organisations and said to them "don't be so
> radical because we can take power with the parliament". The PCP-SL said "the
> mass and workers organisations are rubbish, we need to destroy them and the
> people should follow the correct line of Chairman Gonzalo".
> When the workers entered in strike the United Left betrayed them from the
> leadership. The PCP-SL provoked repression, destroyed the factories or
> phisically threatened the workers.
> 1987-1988 was the highest point in the radicalisation of the workers in the
> 1980s. In November 1987 more than 3,000 delegates from most of the unions,
> shanty towns committees, peasant organisations, etc. gathered in Villa El
> Salvador and created the People's Assembly. It was a body which had
> potential soviet and dual power characteristics.
> What was my policy? In a document which I wrote at that time I suggested
> that the People's Assembly should have delegeates elected and recallable in
> rank and file assemblies and should try to became a paralel power which has
> to assume control of distrbution of basic needs, to organised strikes and
> blockades, and to promote self-defence committees and the unionisation of
> the troops.
> What said the United Left? They try to transform it in a mere electoral
> support for itself. The United Left sabotaged the 4 general strikes of 1988. In
> the end the United Left killed the people's assembly.
> What said the PCP-SL and the MRTA? The MRTA supported it but they wanted to
> create a progressive front between it and wings of the church, the army and
> the ruling party (an strategy similar to the zapatistas and the FMLN/FSLN).
> The PCP-SL called openly "Smash the fascist corporative people's assembly!".
> On the 1st of may 1988 the PCP-SL put dinamite in the big demonstrations of
> the unions and the left. The PCP-SL consider that all the people's and
> workers organisations are counter-revolutionaries and fascists. That's why
> they advocate their liquidation or the extermination of some of their
> The United Left and the PCP-SL/MRTA were like rollers that destroyed the
> revolutionary potential of the working class between them. Both stalinist
> camps were against the development of workers councils and militias because
> they wanted popular fronts.
> As a result the left betrayed a revolutionary situation. The petit
> bourgeoisie was very unhappy with the hyperinflation and chaos and saw that the
> working class was incapable of resolving the problems and they turned to
> support a Bonaparte which could put order. That's why Fujimori unfortunately
> became very popular.
> In 1992 Gonzalo promised that he would take power. When he was captured he
> capitulated. Today the PCP-SL is in a big crisis. In Peru we see every time
> the two wings fighting together. Gonzalo advocates a counter-revolutionary
> peace agreement and the Feliciano wing continues a sterile militarist path.
> We propose a united front for promoting mobilisation and defending class
> The comrades from the northern hemisphere can see that division. There is
> the RIM/MRI which was the PCP-SL international. The RIM said that there are
> two lines inside the PCPSL. There is also the MIM which have a feminist
> lesbian symbol and are supporting Feliciano's PCPSL despite that in Peru the
> Senderistas KILL homosexuals and are considering it as moral desease. There
> is also the El Diario wing and the Red Flag wing.
> I don't know Quispe and I am his opponent. I simply want to say that for the
> PCP-SL everybody are spies and agents which deserve to be killed, even their
> own co-thinkers which they disagree in small points.
> Vladimir is wrong when he suggests that Peru live under a fascist regime
> which only the PCP-SL is in opposition. That's completely false. I suggest
> Vladimir you should read other sources of information.
> Fujimori is a terrible neo-liberal Bonaparte. Fascism means a one-party
> regime which suppress unions and parliaments. That's not the case of Peru.
> Peru has a similar regime to Mexico, Argentina or Colombia. We have a
> boanpartistic parliamentary democracy in which the unions and the political
> parties have some liberties but the state and the paramilitary can disobey
> the law when they want.
> It's completely false the picture that in Peru there are no unions or
> industrial workers, that 90% of the Peruvians are unemployed, and that
> nearly half of them live under liberated areas of the PCP-SL "people's
> republic". This is a COMPLETE LIE. Nobody will believe that nonsense from
> Olaechea. Only people which don't know our reality could be influenced.
> In Peru we had an important movement, originiated by the oil workers, which
> were against the privatisation of PetroPeru. The PCP-SL was COMPLETELY absent
> from that movement like they are absent from most of the strikes and street
> Vladimir, who doesn't have arguments, is suggesting that I can be an agent.
> I don't have any conection with Quispe because I am against his stalinist
> policies. I am not a member of the marxism list. I received from time to
> time several messages forwarded from some comrades in the list and some time
> I forwarded articles to the list through some people which share some of my
> ideas. Quite recently another friend which forwarded another message which
> had nothing to do with the PCP-SL.
> Olaechea tried to appear as a poor little victim. In fact HE IS DEFENDING
> THE MURDER OF MY COMRADES.
> I was educated politically be workers activist like Chiara. He was my
> friend. he was an extremely poor man. He lived in a shanty town. He led
> strikes and factory occupation, something that Olacehea never did. He
> organised the workers against the military juntas in 1968-80 and against the
> reactionary democracy in the 1980s.
> Olaechea is defending the murder of Trotsky, millions of Bolsheviks in the
> Slain's purges and of very good left-wing militants in Peru. He was the one
> that openly said compare the Peruvian union leaders which deserved to be
> kill with the UK and US union leaders.
> I am against any repression to Olaechea and to any PCP-SL supporter.
> Nevertheless he is in favour of killing my comrades and friends.
> I am not advocating that Olaechea should return to be killed. I am only
> exposing his lies and I was asking him to don't make theatre. He tried to
> impress the European and North American audience as a leader of an
> inexistent soviet in Lima (1963) and as a persecuted hero.
> What I tried to show is that he was completely absent from the Peruvian
> class struggle in all the general strikes and in all the mass actions
> against the military junta (1968-80), the bourgeois democracy (1980-90/92)
> and the Fujimori parliamentary dictatorship (1990/92-96). Why he was absent?
> If he like to be in Britain that's his right. It's OK. But he must be inside
> the workers movement and don't slander the Peruvian left and
> I am asking Vladimir. Do you support the Stalinists purges and its terrible
> terror? Do you agree with the murder of Chiara, Cantoral and other far left
> combative union leaders?
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