Jesus , Engels and co......

Karl Carlile joseph at
Mon Sep 2 11:28:41 MDT 1996


KARL CARLILE:Your references to Engels are ironical in the light of the fact
that Engles believed in god.

HUGH RODWELL: Substantiate!

KARL: Engels was a pioneer of dialectical materialism. He believed
that a small number of dialectical laws manifested themselves in the
form of the cosmos, nature, pre-history, history and society. He
believed that there did not obtain a qualitative distinction between
nature and society. Both were, in linear continuity, manifestions of
the same group of dialectical laws and formed part of the one long
story. Since these laws transcend history they are transcendental in

This theory is not supported by evidence. It is simply a hypothesis
postulated by Engels under the influence of Hegel. Since there has
never been any evidence to support its foundation it can only be based
on faith. Belief in the existence of these transcendental laws plays
an identical role to belief in god. Dialectical materialism and god
are just different names for the same transcendental notion.

Interestingly Engels in his younger days had more of a problem with
religion than did Marx.

                                                          Karl Carlile

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