The List etc...
Rosser Jr, John Barkley
rosserjb at jmu.edu
Wed Sep 25 09:36:07 MDT 1996
I totally disagree with you and I repeat it for the
umpteenth time. The new list should be moderated for
volume, not content. There have recently been posts from
quite a few people agreeing with this. It works well on
ecol-econ. It could work here. Who are you to decide which
lunatic on this list is the worst and must go?
On Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:32:42 +1000 (EST) Gary MacLennan
<g.maclennan at qut.edu.au> wrote:
> Adam has written to me seeking my intervention in the Malecki _ Louis P.
> affair. I wrote a reply but a computer glitch meant that it got lost. On
> reflection I think I will reply publicly. the list is in a horrible mess
> at present. Adolfo is fighting to defend the honor of Stalin the trots are
> defending the honor of Trotsky. ream after ream. It is the Left at its
> absolute worst. It is what has made us a sad joke and a caricature of what
> we could be.
> Now the Malecki affair. Louis' charge against Malecki is that he has helped
> destroy this list. Certainly no one can disagree with that. Even those who
> champion Malecki would not be able to look me in the eye and defend him.
> Even the prince of arrogance himself Cheers Rodwell would flinch.
> this list was once one of the most exciting and challenging places to be.
> there was so much knowledge wit and style and commitment. Now we are
> getting choked by the banal. It reminds me of the Malabar caves sequence
> in Passage to India. we go on the list and all we get echoed back at us
> are grunts from Malecki. We scrabble like dogs fighting over long forgotten
> issues. we refuse to address the problems of today.
> Moreover this is cyber space and the antidote to left sectarianism is not
> open to us. We cannot achieve action to bring unity. We have to fall back
> on notions of respect, decency, civility etc.
> Now I will say something about Louis P. That arrogant prig Rodwell will
> call this diving into the ruck. So be it. I am proud to be a political
> ally of Louis P and Doug Henwood. I wish Rodwell joy of his companion
> -Malecki. Is there anyone who can doubt Louis' commitment to the Marxism
> List? No, absolutely no one. He has had to sit and watch it degenerate
> and now Malecki is all over it like some horrible fungus.
> Rodwell who should know better refuses to cut Malecki adrift because he
> thinks that because Malecki and he share a grab bag of slogans that they
> have something in common.
> Adam Rose a patently decent person and the acceptable face of ISO politics,
> and Vladimir who wrote so eloquently about his country's suffering both do
> not seem to understand what is happening. Adam thinks Lou is now destroying
> the list. It is already destroyed, Adam. It is all over.
> Louis had wanted this to be the Iskra of cyber space. I note that both Adam
> and Rodwell criticized this notion. Now Adam seems to be anxious about the
> list's continued existence. Why so. The difference between Louis and Adam
> and Rodwell is that Adam and Rodwell share a party building approach to
> life. Adam of course much less that Rodwell. The latter "intervenes" on
> this list. Louis on the other hand wanted it to be a forum for advancing
> Left thought and not simply the needs of some sect.
> Now I believe we should be bending our collective energies into finishing
> this list off. As it exists now it is a scandal - a proof that we Marxists
> are a joke.
> If a new moderated list starts up I will volunteer to be a moderator and my
> first task I tell you now will be to throw Malecki off. No warnings. Not a
> single one. I will cut Rodwell some slack should he subscribe because he
> is a brilliant man who if he could only control that arrogance would make
> a contribution to international Marxism. But he too will get the chop if he
> does not behave and I won't give a damn about any slanders spread. Let me
> put it in ISO terms , I call getting rid of the likes of Malecki as showing
> leadership and respect for others. Trust me I will sleep very soundly after it.
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Rosser Jr, John Barkley
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