Lenin 'On Co-operation' : notes of a liquidator.

hariette spierings hariette at easynet.co.uk
Sun Sep 29 07:47:59 MDT 1996


>In-Reply-To: <199609281312.JAA16000 at cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu>
>1.      My 'Index of Works' refers to 'On Co-Operation', January 4 &
>6, 1923. Vol 33 of the Lawrence & Wishart/Progress Publishers
>edition, pp 467 - 75. I lent my copy of V33 to a friend and can't get
>at it quickly to confirm if its the text Adolfo quotes. Anybody got
>V33 easily to hand?
>
>2.      Even if Lenin meant by it what Adolfo claims, (and that
>requires to be determined by examining the text and its context) it
>still might not be right. Of course Lenin had great insight into the
>problems of the time, and immense immediate knowledge. But its still
>OK to conclude that you disagree with him about something. Lenin
>wrote some good books, not a bible. (Will that get me excluded from
>the list you're going to moderate Malecki ? Or just get some more of
>your abusive language ?)
>
>_________________________________
>jplant at cix.compulink.co.uk
>



Alright Plant, that is an honest position.  You along with Trotsky disagree
with Lenin, Stalin, Mao and ourselves on the question of whether or not it
is POSSIBLE to build a COMPLETE SOCIALIST SOCIETY in ONE COUNTRY.

This means that you recognise now that your thesis which cetered in saying
that Stalin had contradicted Lenin and Trotsky on this question is half
wrong:  Stalin AGREED with Lenin and contradicted Trotsky.

Now we also AGREE with Lenin on this question of the POSSIBILITY of building
socialism in ONE country.  WE know there are no GUARANTEES that we shall
succeed - although, given the historical experience, the growth of the
material base of productive forces in the world and MOST importantly the
higher degree of consciousness of the proletarian, the mounting problems of
the class enemy, etc (i.e. THE MATERIAL AND SPIRITUAL conditions for success
in this enterprise) - we hope - with proletarian optimism - that THIS TIME
ROUND we shall not only go farther in ONE country, but also that the WORLD
revolution would THIS TIME ROUND be able to come QUICKER to our ASSISTANCE
in order to be able then to GUARANTEE FINAL VICTORY.


This process can be ASSISTED or HINDERED by other schools of revolutionary
thoght.  I fail to see how could your school be of assistance when the only
thing that occurs to you to do is to stand on the sidelines of this struggle
reciting simply:  IT CAN NOT BE DONE, IT IS A WASTE OF TIME, SOCIALISM CAN
NOT BE CONSTRUCTED IN ONE COUNTRY, ONE MUST WAIT FOR A SIMULTANEOUS WORLD
REVOLUTION, DO NOT SEIZE POWER, DO NOT ADVANCE, HOLD BACK, YOU ARE DOOMED,
HOW DO YOU DARE TO ASSAULT THE HEAVENS, etc, etc, etc, which to my
understanding is a fair summation of what you did before regarding the
Soviet Union, China, etc. and thus OBJECTIVELY serving the interests of the
imperialist bourgeosie, whether you were aware or not.

That is why I long ago said that Trotskysm appears to those engaged in the
ACTUAL, REAL REVOLUTIONS, and the PROLETARIAT class struggle in general, as
OBNOXIOUS BACKSEAT DRIVING of the most negative sort.

However, there is no need for this to be so, if people would just stand on
their OWN ground. Then their warning about CONCRETE - as against absolute
pitfalls - would be listened to with respect and attention.

What is so wrong then with advancing your theories and calling them by the
name of their founder, Trotsky, without need of stealing Lenin's garb?

Why claim - falsely - that Lenin ADVISED against building socialism in ONE
country and that the whole problem lies in Stalin defying him?  This is not
true, as you can now see.  That is not the root cause of anything but the
attitude of pessimistic blackbirds and Cassandras of Doom that the Trotskyst
sects play vis-a-vis the endeavours of the proletariat to change the world
according to their world outlook.

Adolfo



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