The NY Times chastizes Chavez

James Farmelant farmelantj at SPAMjuno.com
Sat Aug 21 19:04:43 MDT 1999



Well, if President Chavez has pissed off the editorial board
of the NY Times then he must be doing something right.
If they had been praising him instead, I might have concluded
that he was a charlatan or a sellout.

                Jim F.

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:21:50 -0400 "Jose G. Perez"
<jgperez at freepcmail.com> writes:
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>    America's newspaper of record, in an editorial, chastizes =
>Venezuelans in general and President Chavez in particular:
>
>"Hugo Ch=E1vez won the presidency nine months ago promising to end the
>=
>corruption and mismanagement that has helped to squander Venezuela's =
>riches. But while Venezuelans overwhelmingly supported radical reform,
>=
>they should be very wary of the methods Mr. Ch=E1vez is using. He is =
>drawing power into his own hands, and misusing a special
>Constitutional =
>Assembly meeting now in Caracas that is composed almost entirely of
>his =
>supporters."
>The editors of the Times are particularly upset that Chavez and his =
>backers view the Assembly as "originaria," i.e., as the supreme =
>embodiment of sovereignty and subject to no pre-existing restraints.
>For =
>some reason, the editors feel compelled to complain that Chavez wants
>=
>the presidential term lengthened, and would even allow a president to
>be =
>re-elected. The Times also stanchly opposes reforms of Venezuela's =
>basket-case judiciary, as well as of its ultra-corrupt Congress.
>
>Normally, such an august body as the editorial board of the New York =
>Times could care less about the formalities of bourgeois democracy. =
>They've yet to complain to the brits because Prime Ministers serve for
>=
>up to five years, instead of four, nor for the practice of allowing =
>prime ministers to be re-elected. Even much more substantial questions
>=
>of bourgeois democratic legality --such as the separation of powers, =
>which in Britain does not really exist-- have not moved the editors to
>=
>complain. And there's a reason for this, simply, that the Times
>editors =
>care deeply about the class nature and the effectiveness of bourgeois
>=
>governments, but not about its constitutional forms. The Times's real
>=
>worry about the Constitution of a country which the majority of its =
>editors have never even set foot on is revealed in an adjective:
>
>"It is hard to see how the Jacobin decisions of Mr. Ch=E1vez and the =
>assembly will help Venezuela."
>
>Jacobin decisions. Very well put. One could do much worse than go down
>=
>in history as the first Jacobin of the 21st Century. For what did the
>=
>Jacobins represent but a change in the class nature of the French
>state. =
>It is a name that has gone down in history identified with the most =
>vigorous pursuit of revolutionary transformations.
>
>* * *
>
>    Y ahora en castellano.
>
>    El Times de Nueva York, algo as=ED como el =F3rgano oficial del =
>comit=E9 central del imperialismo yanqui, se ha tenido que molestar
>para =
>darle un fuerte rega=F1o a ese muchacho travieso Hugo Ch=E1vez y al =
>pueblo de Venezuela.
>
>    A los directores del prestigioso diario --que sin duda jam=E1s han
>=
>visitado Venezuela-- les parecen mal todas las propuestas =
>constitucionales de Ch=E1vez, el t=E9rmino presidencial, la =
>re-elecci=F3n, la reforma del escandalosamente inoperante poder =
>judicial, la re-estructuraci=F3n del ultra-corrupto poder legislativo.
>
>    Normalmente al Times poco le importan los detalles de la =
>institucionalidad democr=E1tica-burguesa de otros pa=EDses. Cuantas =
>veces denunciaron a la Thatcher por haberse excedido los 4 a=F1os de =
>mandato? Y Cuantas veces le reclamaron a los brit=E1nicos por permitir
>=
>la re-elecci=F3n de la primera ministra, o por no mantener una =
>separaci=F3n virginal entre los poderes del estado,
>centraliz=E1ndolos, =
>para todos los efectos, bajo la dama de hierro y un parlamento servil?
>=
>El Times no se quejaba de la violaci=F3n de los principios legaluyos
>de =
>la democracia burguesa gringa porque entiende perfectamente lo =
>importante, que no radica en las formalidades del derecho =
>constitucional, sino su caracter de clase.
>
>    Esto es tambi=E9n lo que le preocupa en el caso de Venezuela. =
>Fustiga a Chavez y la Constituyente por proponerse "decisiones =
>Jacobinas." El calificativo est=E1 seleccionado con gran precisi=F3n.
>=
>Qu=E9 representaban los jacobinos sino un cambio en el caracter de
>clase =
>del Estado? Es un nombre que ha pasado a la historia identificado con
>=
>perseguir las transformaciones revolucionarias con m=E1xima energ=EDa.
>
>   =A1Ojal=E1 que Ch=E1vez y el pueblo Venezolano pasen a la historia
>=
>como los primero jacobinos del Siglo XXI!=20
>
>Jos=E9
>
>
>
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>color=3D#000000>America's=20
>newspaper of record, in an editorial, chastizes Venezuelans in general
>=
>and=20
>President Chavez in particular:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT =
>color=3D#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV>"Hugo Chávez won the presidency nine months ago =
>promising to=20
>end the corruption and mismanagement that has helped to squander =
>Venezuela's=20
>riches. But while Venezuelans overwhelmingly supported radical reform,
>=
>they=20
>should be very wary of the methods Mr. Chávez is using. He is =
>drawing=20
>power into his own hands, and misusing a special Constitutional
>Assembly =
>meeting=20
>now in Caracas that is composed almost entirely of his =
>supporters."</DIV>
><DIV>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The editors of the Times are =
>particularly upset=20
>that Chavez and his backers view the Assembly as
>"originaria," =
>i.e.,=20
>as the supreme embodiment of sovereignty and subject to no
>pre-existing=20
>restraints. For some reason, the editors feel compelled to complain
>that =
>Chavez=20
>wants the presidential term lengthened, and would even allow a
>president =
>to be=20
>re-elected. </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The Times also =
>stanchly opposes=20
>reforms of Venezuela's basket-case judiciary, as well as of its =
>ultra-corrupt=20
>Congress.</FONT></P>
><P><FONT size=3D2>Normally, such an august body as the editorial board
>=
>of the New=20
>York Times could care less about the formalities of bourgeois
>democracy. =
>They've=20
>yet to complain to the brits because Prime Ministers serve for up to =
>five years,=20
>instead of four, nor for the practice of allowing prime ministers to
>be=20
>re-elected. Even much more substantial questions of bourgeois
>democratic =
>
>legality --such as the separation of powers, which in Britain does not
>=
>really=20
>exist-- have not moved the editors to complain. And there's a reason
>for =
>this,=20
>simply, that the Times editors care deeply about the class nature and
>=
>the=20
>effectiveness of bourgeois governments, but not about its
>constitutional =
>forms.=20
>The Times's real worry about the Constitution of a country which the =
>majority of=20
>its editors have never even set foot on is revealed in an =
>adjective:</FONT></P>
><P>"It is hard to see how the Jacobin decisions of Mr. =
>Chávez and=20
>the assembly will help Venezuela."
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jacobin decisions. Very well put.
>One =
>could do=20
>much worse than go down in history as the first Jacobin of the 21st =
>Century. For=20
>what did the Jacobins represent but a change in the class nature of
>the =
>French=20
>state. It is a name that has gone down in history identified with the
>=
>most=20
>vigorous pursuit of revolutionary transformations.</FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>* * *</FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    Y ahora en=20
>castellano.</FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    <FONT =
>color=3D#000000>El Times de=20
>Nueva York, algo así como el órgano oficial del =
>comité=20
>central del imperialismo yanqui, se ha tenido que molestar para darle
>un =
>fuerte=20
>regaño a ese muchacho travieso Hugo Chávez y al pueblo
>de=20
>Venezuela.</FONT></FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    A los directores
>=
>del=20
>prestigioso diario --que sin duda jamás han visitado
>Venezuela-- =
>les=20
>parecen mal todas las propuestas constitucionales de Chávez,
>el=20
>término presidencial, la re-elección, la reforma del=20
>escandalosamente inoperante poder judicial, la
>re-estructuración =
>del=20
>ultra-corrupto poder legislativo.</FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    <FONT =
>color=3D#000000>Normalmente=20
>al Times poco le importan los detalles de la institucionalidad=20
>democrática-burguesa de otros países. Cuantas veces =
>denunciaron a=20
>la Thatcher por haberse excedido los 4 años de mandato? Y
>Cuantas =
>veces=20
>le reclamaron a los británicos por permitir la
>re-elección =
>de la=20
>primera ministra, o por no mantener una separación virginal
>entre =
>los=20
>poderes del estado, centralizándolos, para todos los efectos, =
>bajo la=20
>dama de hierro y un parlamento servil? El Times no se quejaba de la=20
>violación de los principios legaluyos de la democracia burguesa
>=
>gringa=20
>porque entiende perfectamente lo importante, que no radica en las =
>formalidades=20
>del derecho constitucional, sino su caracter de
>clase.</FONT></FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>    <FONT =
>color=3D#000000>Esto es=20
>también lo que le preocupa en el caso de Venezuela. Fustiga a =
>Chavez y la=20
>Constituyente por proponerse "decisiones Jacobinas." El =
>calificativo=20
>está seleccionado con gran precisión. Qué =
>representaban los=20
>jacobinos sino un cambio en el caracter de clase del Estado? Es un =
>nombre que ha=20
>pasado a la historia identificado con perseguir las
>transformaciones=20
>revolucionarias con máxima energía.</FONT></FONT></P>
><P><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>   ¡Ojalá que
>=
>Chávez=20
>y el pueblo Venezolano pasen a la historia como los primero jacobinos
>=
>del Siglo=20
>XXI! </FONT></P>
><P><FONT size=3D2>José</FONT></P>
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