Czech Communist Party Gains in Popularity
mstainsby at SPAMhotmail.com
Sun Aug 29 00:28:01 MDT 1999
SOMEONE, ANYONE, STOP THEM BEFORE THEY OVERHEAT ALL OUR MACHINES!!!!
> My dear friend Sven said:
> >>This is obviously an important development.
> > Owen - your perception is unreal, really.
> > That aside, your politics are as lousy as ever. The mere imagination
> > communists are back on the political scene must really be a shock to you
> > and your cronies. After all, your friends of the bourgeoisie thought
> > had buried communism for good.
> Ouch. Who dragged the sectarian cat in? Now, I'm not going to pretend
>Sven or I get on. After all, I am a Trotskyist and he is probably a more
>hard-line Stalinist than Stalin himself. But at least you could have
>disguised the above as a political criticism rather the naked personal
>that it is.
> For those who have not had the honour of meeting Sven, he is the
>of the Marxist-Leninist list. This is a great list if you don't mind the
>faux-pas on debate, the enforced ultra-sectarianism which is quite honestly
>beyond the pale, complete ignorance of reality and truth, and an occasional
>ritual which involves calling someone a Trotskyist bootlicker of capital
>fascism before their expulsion. But Sven and his friends reassure me that
>are more naive than evil.
> Sven has taken this opportunity to sharpen his claws because I posted
>something he seems either unable or unwilling to respond to. I shall post
>again so that you have the chance, Mr. Buttler.
> Ah, the old accusation that Trotskyists are friends of the bourgeoisie.
>doubt Napoleon accused the Jacobins of being friends of the aristocracy. So
>what are you implying above, that Trotskyists (I prefer the word
>but that would probably lead to your usual barrage of childish insults) are
>responsible for what has happened to Marxism? Is that a cynical piss take
>some kind on your behalf? You are an apologist for the counter-revolution
>1923, whereby the bureaucracy seized power of the USSR with its principle
>leader Stalin, thereby presiding over the destruction of working class
>democracy, international revolution and the freedoms given down by the
>October Revolution. Do you think Lenin would have been impressed by
>Stalinism, by its bureaucratic "Socialism From Above" policy, its
>nationalistic chauvinism, its co-operation with the foreign bourgeoisie and
>imperialists, its demolition of working class power, its restoration of
>ranks which the Revolution so proudly eliminated, its terror against the
>people? Do you think for a moment a revolution could have succeeded in a
>country that was still in the early stages of capitalism without spreading
>the West? If you say yes to that, then I'm afraid you're at loggerheads
>Lenin and Marx.
> The Stalinist counter-revolution was inevitable considering what happened
>the civil war, the destruction of the economy, foreign invasion, the defeat
>of international revolution, social breakdown. The collapse of Stalinism
>itself was also inevitable. Though Trotsky argued for the complete
>of Stalinism by the working class, he predicted that the other alternative
>was the restoration of capitalism. This would happen when the bureaucracy
>would want more than its material privileges, to have the right of
>inheritance, and make profit directly out of the working class by direct
>ownership of production - in other words, to become the new bourgeoisie.
>That's just what happened! Three famous names being Yeltsin, Chernomyrdin,
>Berezovsky - all incredibly rich (and corrupt) members of the bourgeoisie,
> Is it so hard to see the truth, to see fact, to see what happened? My
>comment about the Czech Communist Party was one of relief, that even though
>the repressive Stalinist system caused so much disillusionment amongst the
>working class, that at least they have not been permanently turned away
>revolutionary socialism. The fact that I can still say with an ounce of
>truth - "A spectre is haunting Europe, the spectre of Communism" makes this
>period of extreme reaction seem a bit more bearable. But I do not want to
>through the Stalinist routine again, or have some reformist Social
>masquarading as Marxists come to power.
> You will probably die with the beliefs you hold today Sven. Just know
>you are in an old guard nobody wants, that will never again oppress and
>massacre workers, or live as bureaucratic parasites on top of a deformed
>society. I am one of a new generation, a revolutionary youth, and who
>maybe this generation will have a decisive role in the revolutions that are
>to come next century.
>"Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil,
>oppression, and violence and enjoy it to the full."
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