The problem with anti-capitalist demonstrations

Macdonald Stainsby mstainsby at
Tue Dec 7 03:14:34 MST 1999

Louis Proyect <lnp3 at> said:

> Welch:
> >The WTO protesters' seemed to be demanding self-sufficency,
> >production and farming techniques, the splitting up of the large
> >monoplies, in short, less than the best capitalism could offer for
> >everybody.
> You know something, David. There are other political tendencies in the
> world that have a position on the WTO besides Vandana Shiva and Mick
> They are socialists. They are found on this mailing list. Jim Craven
> a critique of the protests from a Marxist perspective, as I did the
> day they started.


> Louis Proyect
> Marxism mailing list: (

Louis, I have a respect for the words and works of yourself and Jim on
these lists (doubtless elsewhere as well) more than most radicals I
meet. That "disclaimer" aside, your attitude on the demo is out to
lunch. Yes, it is loaded with reactionary ideas. Yes, it is wedded to
the "lesser evil" of voting Bubba part two. Yes it does have racists
and other whackos involved. Do not get ahead of yourself in your
denunciations, this is the first time in many years that any segment of
the "radical" left emboldened itself enough to attack the state,
DIRECTLY. This, combined with the fact that all sorts are now searching
for new ideas, leaves us with but two options: Attack the wrong parts
of the first demo, leaving us as what you call "left critics", OR get
directly involved in radicalising this movement.

Ignore it, and it will be what you see to hate most: proof that
anarchism does indeed exist. Anarchy must be defeated in practice- it
sure as hell ain't intimidated by your "more radical than thou"

With both respect and frustration,

Macdonald Stainsby

check the "ten point platform" of Tao at:

"We believe that socialism is the fairest system and we
are devoting our lives to it, but we have to demonstrate its
viability. It has always been a complex process, even though we
thought it would be easy. We have lived under pressure from the
start, and more so today, but we are not going to give up. That would
be crazy."
-Raul Castro, General of the Cuban Army, 1999.

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