More on "third world fascism"

Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky nestor at
Wed Sep 15 17:14:22 MDT 1999

El 15 Sep 99 a las 10:30, Charles Brown nos dice(n):

> "Senatus Romanus populusque (spelling ?)"

Latin is good, but the relationship with Fascist Italy not
so good.

Old Julius wouldn't have written it better. But the order
is reversed. The banner was "Senatus Populusque Romanus",
and the difference is not a minor one. The Senatus seems to
have been the representation of the _optimates_, while the
_populus_ [both words are tansparent to you, I suppose]
were the _plebs_, originally the fraction of the Roman
people deprived of political rights. It was after a
protracted and very complex political history that the
plebs obtained the right to have their own representatives,
the _tribuni plebis_  (the tribunes of the people).

Very few, they had power of veto and personal
inviolability while on office. Caesar was a _tribunus
plebis_ who returned to the post all its might (it had been
watered to homeopathic doses in the late Republic, and this
in spite of the struggle of the Gracchus brothers), and
discovered that military dictatorship of the tribunus
plebis with strong peasant support was the only way to
overcome the stalemate that had befallen on the late
Republic under the rule of the politically decaying

The Empire can be understood as a progressive
step forward (within the framework of slavery, of course)
that democratized (among the free people, yes) the revenues
of Roman might on the Mediterranean basin. It had more to
do with the early tyranni of the Greek (personal power with
strongly progressive objectives) that preceded and prepared
the best years of the state-city (Pissistratus in Athens).

The word "tyrant" assumed a negative weight later on, and
this may probably have to do with the fact that history is
usually written by the rich and not by the poor. The
tyranni were social reformers who established the
foundations for democracy, declaring all debts due (for

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