New Age for Aussie Imperialism (reply to rachel E.)
Jose G. Perez
jgperez at SPAMfreepcmail.com
Fri Sep 24 18:33:38 MDT 1999
>>I don't like that racist
Jefferson very much, but he did say something interesting along the
lines of the tree of liberty needing to be watered with the blood of
I think it was "the blood of patriots and tyrants every 20 years" or so. The
reference, if I remember right, was to Shay's rebellion a.k.a. the Whiskey
From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
To: marxism at lists.panix.com <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: New Age for Aussie Imperialism (reply to rachel E.)
>Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:
>> We were given democracy at the cost of
>> losing our own country. A bargain.
>I suspect that is the case of all nations that "were given" democracy.
>Democracy, even crappy bourgeois democracy, is not a can opener
>that can be passed on from hand to hand. I don't like that racist
>Jefferson very much, but he did say something interesting along the
>lines of the tree of liberty needing to be watered with the blood of
>tyrants. But of course that can be horribly perverted: Consider the
>u.s. activity in Grenada.
>I hadn't thought of it before, but perhaps the u.s. in Grenada is an
>better analogy than Haiti for Australia in East Timor.
>p.s. Gary's refusal to reply further to Paul is correct, I think. We
>learned about as much as we can by arguing with the DSP's stupidity.
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