Hobsbawm and the Analitic History

Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxx at xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Sat Aug 5 16:53:40 MDT 2000

Comrade Nestor, sorry for requesting the information in English. You were tired and I
did not take this into account, since I also did not know that Ivonaldo understood
Spanish. My petty ignorance and witchy wonder, as always. Thanks for being very
responsive, and gentle enough to translate your post into English..

au revoir,


Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:

> En relación a Re: Hobsbawm and the Analitic History,
> el 5 Aug 00, a las 0:26, Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx dijo:
> >
> > Nestor, what are you saying below? I  am dying to learn.. lovely
> > language, but understood a litte..
> >
> > au revoir..
> >
> > Xxxx
> Thanks for the opinion on Spanish, Xxxx. No language is lovelier than
> any other, but it is always nice to be cuddled a little. Sorry I did
> not answer in English, yesterday night I was so tired ("fusilado",
> that is "shot down" we say here). Since Ivonaldo understands Spanish,
> I decided to write in Spanish. Fast translation follows. There is
> nothing very important in "what I say here", your comments are much
> more accurate. But, just to please you (and bore the rest of the
> list), here it goes... A display of Latin machismo trying to please
> an idolized young lady:
> ===================================================
> Dear Ivonaldo,
> Last things first:
> Jim is actually doing a favor to all of us when he quotes his bibliography.
> I know that some of his positions (and of his character) are contestable, but his
> criticism to Hobsbawm on the national question is truly flawless and an example
> of Leninist analysis.
> Secondly, Hobsbawm is a great master of Great History, full honors. But this
> does not bring him a bit nearer to understanding the national question; this is
> precisely why his best work on this issue belongs to the formative age of
> nationalities in Europe. [Now that I translate, I discover a mistake:
> I should have written "the age of the constitution of the great
> national states in Western Europe"].
> He recently visited Argentina, and consciously or unconsciously he made
> part of tie imperialist-globalizating offensive [much in the way of our homespun
> Ernesto Laclau, BTW, adds the translator]. This is the bitter truth. I do still
> delight in reading Industry and empire, The bourgeois revolutions and that
> little jewel known as Primitive rebels. But I agree with Jim in
> that if we take him out of the history of Europe during the
> 19th.Century (that is, the period that precedes imperialism) Eric
> Hobsbawm does not understand the national question.
> It is precisely BECAUSE of his intellectual achievements, I repeat,
> that he must be criticized. And since you do not accept Jim to
> commend his own bibliography to you [translator adds here: to Latins,
> this tends to sound as too egolatric], then I will do it myself. In
> the archives of the L-I list [and in the resource pages of the
> website] there are things by Jim that you will certainly find
> interest in.
> -=======================================================
> Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
> gorojovsky at arnet.com.ar


Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx
PhD Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
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Albany, NY 12222

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