replying to Ivonaldo was Re: Hobsbawm and the Analitic History

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Sun Aug 6 12:20:46 MDT 2000



Of course, I should correct to avoid misunderstanding here. When Gary mentioned
Living Marxism's pitfall, I don't think he was referring to Lenin or Trot. was he?
I guess he was critical of mechanistic/non-revolutionary versions of Marxist
theory, such as Kautsky's..

Xxxx


Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx wrote:

> But, it think, when Gary refers to LM, he has in mind vulgar materialists like
> Kautsky, not Lenin or Trot. Between two Russian revolutions, whose side are we
> on? Kaustky or others?
>
> adios,
>
> Xxxx
>
> Russell Grinker wrote:
>
> > Gary MacLennan:
> > >The key point for us Marxists is indeed where do we stand on modernity.
> > This is the 'Living  Marxism' tradition's pitfall as well.  They (and even
> > some Maoists when writing about Ireland)
> > take what they see as the side of modernity.  They forget the very essence
> > of Marxism.  We are not neo-Nietzscheans.  We do not represent the 'wille
> > zur macht'.  We are always on the side of Spartacus. We seek a
> > non-capitalist modernity.  We do not advocate primitive accumulation as a
> > way of dealing with peasants.
> >
> > This is just plain wrong.  For what it's worth, the old RCP/LM position was
> > for unconditional support for the Irish struggle for national
> > self-determination against Britain. The "petit-bourgeois" nature of the
> > politics of the RM leadership was not used as an excuse for non-support -
> > particularly at times of so-called terrorist outrages on the mainland - as
> > was the case with almost all the British left. The position we took was well
> > put in a famous Trotsky quote (sue me if I get it slightly wrong, it's a
> > long time ago): "The British Marxist who fails by all means to support the
> > Irish struggle against Britain, deserves to be branded with infamy, if not
> > with a bullet". Of course now that the Provos have made their peace with
> > imperialism, there's certainly no obligation to give them any sort of
> > support.
>
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