Replying to Marta was re: Holland: the new killing fields

Marta Russell ap888 at
Thu Dec 7 16:13:20 MST 2000

I suspect we won't agree --
but I would just add one more point.  A person like your friend
can die anytime that they want without the assitance of a medical
professional.  Bringing the medical profession into it is a
recipe for disaster IMHO.  My fears are based in historical fact.
Historically, disabled persons have been viewed as burdens on
society and euthanized by doctors, eugenicized by scientists, and
otherwise done away with by other institutions.  It is out of
knowledge that I take the position that I do.


Gary MacLennan wrote:
> Marta,
> We are not going to agree on this one - ever I suspect.  You think I
> projected my fears onto my mother.  That could be true, but aren't your
> posts full of fears too?
> My 85 year old friend  wants to move on.  She feels she has lived a full
> life and longs to die and be with her mother.  For her death is only a
> moment in the eternal. Hers is a Manichean philosophy where she deeply
> desires her spirit to be freed from its bodily cage.
> Of course she fears being dependent.  That is her choice.  There is no
> shortage of people who would look after her, but she does not want that.
> I think the research into K.'s patients proves little BTW.  Your reply to
> Macdonald pain and death was exactly what my friends who believe in
> the"sanctity of life" tell me.  To be frank I cannot see the superiority of
> being dosed into semi-consciousness with morphine compared with choosing to
> exit.
> warm regards
> Gary

Marta Russell
author, Los Angeles, CA
Beyond Ramps: Disability at the End of the Social Contract

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