Comment for Jose and response to Re: Query

Gary MacLennan g.maclennan at
Sun Dec 10 12:54:15 MST 2000

Christ Jose, you can be one bad tempered sour bastard at times. Don't you
ever chill out?


I often think the same about being here in Australia.  I cannot quite bring
myself to say "I am an Australian". But here I am a citizen of a
mini-imperial power; the ever faithful henchman of the USA. Moreover it
seems that there is little can be done to change this nation.

The reality of USA is that most of its citizens are outside of the
"political class".  The word citizen has to be written with scare quotes as

Mac is correct to say you are inside the belly of the beast but in a way it
could one day turn out to be both a privilege and an opportunity.  At least
the Left in America might one day again give Leviathan a belly ache.



At 12:01  10/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, if you believe yourself to be a citizen of such a nation, in any
>meaningful sense of the term, it tells me either that a) you're Bill Gates,
>Ted Turner, or somewhere in between in the list of the richest people on the
>planet or b) you're laboring under a ton of illusions.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at>
>To: <lbo-talk at>; <marxism at>
>Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 11:11 PM
>Subject: Query
>What does it mean to be a citizen of a criminal nation
>like the United States in the year 2000? A state whose
>power and policies cast a pall over the existence of
>6 billion people?

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