St. Judy was Re: clarification

Lou Paulsen wwchi at
Tue Dec 12 16:36:17 MST 2000

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at>
>As the man said, the whole is
>the false.

The sixth patriarch told his disciples, "Ryutan said, 'The whole is the
false.'  I say, 'the whole is the true.'"


Does the sixth patriarch have it, or does the well-known monk?  He
ungraciously mocks the sixth patriarch, staging a puppet show where the
puppet of one hand beats the puppet of the other.  Nonetheless, is the whole
false?  Is the whole true?  After seventy-seven years of zazen, you may give
Ryutan ten blows with a stick.

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