Canadian Mounties made plans for concentration camps

Kevin Robert Dean qualiall at
Wed Jan 26 19:27:00 MST 2000

For some reason this reminded me of a few govt. documents I ran across on
"The Smoking Gun" website in regards to US anti communist tactics.

One document mentioned that the FBI tried to start a "gang war" between the
mafia and the commies by having a pretend "Commie" write a letter to the NY
TIMES to pick a fight with suspected mob bosses.  It didn't work.
See it at:

Also, there are a few amusing "How to get Rid of Castro" stories...including
the one on how the US planned to doctor some photos and show Castro in some
unusual situations.  The US called it "Operation Good Times":

Also check out the "Imaginary Leader" trick we wanted to pull in Cuba:

As an aside..there is a cute letter from Fidel himself at age 12..asking
Roosevelt for $10...

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> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 at>
> Reply-To: marxism at
> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:37:15 -0500
> To: marxism at
> Subject: Canadian Mounties made plans for concentration camps
> Canadian Press
> Sunday January 23, 2000
> Mounties had secret plan to intern 1,000 or more 'subversives'
> The Mounties planned to round up more than 1,000 "subversives" - including
> young children - at the outbreak of a third world war and place them in
> internment camps, newly disclosed documents show.
> The Cold War-era plan, abandoned only in 1983, targeted leading Communists
> who were to be locked inside three federal prisons in Ontario and Alberta.
> "The present number of persons who would be arrested as subversives in the
> event of a national emergency are 588 males and 174 females," says a 1970
> memo from the RCMP.
> "The type of person involved is not likely to be violent, dangerous or
> inclined toward escaping."
> The documents, obtained under the Access to Information Act, show that the
> war internment plan was first drawn up in the late 1940s but was revived
> and expanded from 1969 to 1971.
> The RCMP had 762 people on their to-be-interned list in 1970, including 13
> children under the age of 11 and 23 between the ages of 12 and 16.
> Most were from the Toronto area, though no names are included in the
> released material.
> The group was primarily made up of people deemed "prominent Communist
> functionaries" by an RCMP Security Service program known as Profunc.
> Those under 17 were likely the children of the target internees, and were
> referred to disparagingly by the Mounties as "red diaper babies".
> The plan was to round up these so-called subversives quickly and place them
> in temporary custody while three federal prisons were emptied of their
> inmates.
> A prison in Drumheller, Alta., was to be used for the west, and another in
> Warkworth, Ont., for the rest of the country. Women, however, were to be
> placed in the Joyceville, Ont., penitentiary, near Kingston.
> "Mothers with babies at breast will be accommodated in the Joyceville
> Institution hospital area and . . . their children must in the first
> instance be placed with relatives or with Children's Aid Societies," says
> one 1969 document.
> The existing prison population across the country would be thinned out by
> freeing non-violent inmates with less than a year left in their sentences.
> By shuffling the remaining prisoners, the three Alberta and Ontario prisons
> could be vacated within 10 days to become internment camps.
> The Mounties had approval to lock up 762 people in 1970 but argued they
> would likely add more after cabinet invoked its extraordinary powers under
> the War Measures Act.
> "There are approximately another 300, although not approved at present,
> they would no doubt be approved in time of war."
> Rules for the camps were detailed in an RCMP manual that outlined
> procedures for everything from mail censorship to punishment.
> "Punishment Diet Number One shall consist of water as required and one
> pound of bread per day," says an edition of the manual from the 1960s.
> "Punishment Diet Number Two shall consist of water as required and, for
> each day, eight ounces of bread for breakfast . . . four ounces of oatmeal,
> eight ounces of potatoes and salt, for dinner and eight ounces of bread for
> supper."
> The internment plan was abandoned at the order of the justice minister in
> 1983, the documents show. The reasons are not specified, though it may have
> been linked to the creation in 1984 of the Canadian Security Intelligence
> Service which took over many RCMP Security Service functions.
> The revival of the Communist internment plan in the late 1960s may have
> been the Mounties' response to student protests, black power and Quebec
> separatist agitation, says a historian.
> "There's this mindset going into the 1960s where Communism is a top
> threat," said Steve Hewitt, a professor at the University of Saskatchewan
> who is writing a book on the RCMP and subversion.
> "And the RCMP Security Service is like an elephant charging in one
> direction. . . . It's very difficult for it to change its mindset, to get
> away from this red-and-white world and realize there are these other threats."
> A retired Security Service officer said Canada faced a genuine threat from
> Communist subversives, but not so serious as to require an elaborate
> internment plan.
> "It was a serious case of the RCMP Security Service carrying a huge
> tar-and-feather brush much too far," Peter Marwitz said from Ottawa.
> In one of the darkest moments in Canadian history, Ottawa interned
> thousands of Japanese Canadians during the Second World War for fear they
> might help Japan. The internees received an apology and compensation in 1988.
> Louis Proyect
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