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marxism-digest        Saturday, June 24 2000        Volume 01 : Number 2327



In this issue:
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   Russia, China Conduct Walk Out in U.N. Council over Yugoslavia
   Re: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?
   Remember Shaka Sankofa
   La Dictadura De Adentro Denuncia La Dictadura Desde Afuera
   Re: Springtime for Hitler
   Re: Celtic invasion to Buenos Aires
   [Fwd: Press Release: Nike.com redirected to s11.org (fwd)]
   Re: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?
   Re: Celtic invasion to Buenos Aires

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:44:02 EDT
From: Borba100 at aol.com
Subject: Russia, China Conduct Walk Out in U.N. Council over Yugoslavia

Are the  defenders of 'Western civilization' are in the East...
Russia, China Conduct Walk Out in U.N. Council over Yugoslavia
By Evelyn Leopold (6-23-00)

"Gagging people's mouths is not the best way to discuss the acute
international problems in this way,'' [Russian UN Ambassador] Lavrov said.
"Even a defendant has a right to defend his or her position.''

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters, Friday June 23 3:02 PM ET ) - The Security Council
took the unusual step of excluding Yugoslavia's U.N. envoy from a debate on
the Balkans on Friday, prompting Russia's ambassador to stage a demonstrative
walk out.

"To discuss the Balkan problem without Yugoslavia is nonsense,'' Ambassador
Sergei Lavrov said before leaving the chamber and placing a junior envoy in
the Russian seat.

China's envoy followed a few minutes later during a speech by Javier Solana,
the European Union's foreign policy chief, presumably because he headed NATO
during its 11-week bombing of Serbia during the Kosovo crisis last year.

China, however, participated in the debate on the Balkans whereas no Russian
diplomat spoke after the controversy over Yugoslavia's presence.

U.S. ambassador Richard Holbrooke led the challenge on grounds that the
Yugoslav leadership, including President Slobodan Milosevic, was under
indictment by a U.N. tribunal for alleged crimes committed during last year's
Kosovo crisis.

"It would be inappropriate to allow the representative of this government to
use this council in a discussion of where we stand on Kosovo,'' he said.

Yugoslavia's envoy Vladislav Jovanovic has spoken to the council many times
before on Balkan issues, the last being one year ago shortly after the
indictments in May 1999.

Diplomats said he had tried to since then but was prevented in private
consultations. One key council envoy said Friday's confrontation was ordered
by Milosevic.

Milosevic and four of his top lieutenants were indicted as war criminals by
the Hague-based tribunal for crimes against humanity, including murder,
during the Kosovo conflict.

The indictments took place amid last spring's NATO bombing raid against
Serbia to force Belgrade's troops out of Kosovo province where they were
killing and expelling in large numbers the country's ethnic Albanian
majority.

The vote on whether Jovanovic should speak was four in favor, seven against
with four abstentions in the 15-member council. Under council rules,
procedural matters needs nine ''yes'' votes, with permanent members, such as
Russia, the United States, Britain, China and France, unable to use their
veto.

Voting in favor of Jovanovic were Russia, China, Ukraine and Namibia; those
against were the United States, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Bangladesh,
Malaysia and Canada; abstaining were Mali, Tunisia, Argentina and Jamaica.

Jovanovic told reporters the action in the council was part ''of the
aggressive policy which the U.S. administration has been pursing against
Yugoslavia for years.''

He said that the seven votes against him were from NATO members and two
"extremist'' Islamic countries, Bangladesh and Malaysia, thereby constituting
a "moral victory'' for Belgrade.

Lavrov told the council the vote was against the spirit of the U.N. Charter
which allowed even a country that was not a U. N. member to participate when
it was a party to a conflict the council was discussing.

"Gagging people's mouths is not the best way to discuss the acute
international problems in this way,'' Lavrov said.

"A very dangerous precedent has thus been created when states that are
unpalatable for political reasons are being isolated from participation in
the work of the United Nations,'' Lavrov said.

"Yugoslavia has a right to participate. It is a country whose interests are
directly affected by this question,'' Lavrov told the council, adding that
the tribunal was a politically motivated.

"Even a defendant has a right to defend his or her position,'' he said.

After the vote on Yugoslavia, China's deputy ambassador, Shen Guofang, walked
out of the council during an address by Javier Solana, now the
secretary-general of a European Union council on a common foreign policy.

When he returned Shen mentioned the U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in
Belgrade, which Washington says was due to bad maps. He also reminded the
council that every country had a right to state its views. "This decision is
a wrong decision'' and "does not help a solution in the Balkans,'' Shen said.

Solana was secretary-general of NATO during its air campaign to force
Belgrade to stop repressing ethnic Albanians in Kosovo province, thousands of
whom were expelled..

Yugoslavia's membership of the United Nations has been in dispute since 1992,
when four of its six constituent republics declared their independence. It
has been suspended from the U.N. General Assembly until its status is
cleared.

www.tenc.net [emperors-clothes]

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:28:06 -0400
From: "Jose G. Perez" <jg_perez at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?

1. Who is Malecki?

2. I suggest that those who have been subscribed involuntarily, as I
have been, direct their responses to abuse at egroups.com

This is necessary because the list owner has so far apparently refused
to unsub me and several other people.

If egroups receives several complaints, they will take a look at the
list, see that the listowner has been subscribing people without
authorization, and take appropriate measures.

I believe the addresses were drawn from this list, as it is the only
one, I believe, that Carrol, Nestor and I are all on.

José

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From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?


> I, and apparently quite a few others, have found ourselves
> subscribed to a list called "rev-commies at egroups.com".
> Does anyone know who did it to us? I gather from the first
> post I read that Malecki is on it!!!
>
> Carrol
>
>
>

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 23:42:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: aabdo at webtv.net (Tony Abdo)
Subject: Remember Shaka Sankofa

From-
[ww-youth] Remember Shaka Sankofa

       As most of you have heard by now, Shaka Sankofa--formerly known
as Gary Graham--was executed by the state of Texas by lethal injection
last night for the murder and robbery of Bobby Lambert, a white drug
dealer, in Houston in
1981.
        Shaka was the son of a mentally ill mother and a
chronic alcoholic father, a childhood victim of abuse, poverty and
neglect. At the age of 17, he went on a robbing spree, for which he's
taken full responsibility and apologized repeatedly. He was neither
charged nor convicted of rape, as some have claimed. A week after
Lambert's murder, Shaka was arrested on the unrelated charges of robbery
and assault. A week after that, he was targeted as a suspect in the
murder after being "identified" by a single eyewitness. He was charged
and, after a two-day trial, sentenced to death. He spent half his life
on death row, earning his GED, and co-founding a newspaper and social
justice organization, the Endeavor Project.
        Has Texas executed an innocent man? Decide for
yourself: -Though Lambert had a long criminal record of narcotics
trafficking and, at the time of his death was about to testify before a
grand jury in a major drug investigation, police never made any attempt
to investigate a possible drug connection to the murder.
- - -Shaka was charged with robbery as well as murder in order to get a
death sentence. But at the time of his death, Lambert was found to be in
possession of at least $6,000 in cash that was not taken. -Shaka's
court-appointed attorney assumed he was guilty, identifying Shaka as the
killer 3 times while cross-examining the eyewitness. Nor did he call any
of Shaka's alibi witnesses, or any of the six other witnesses who gave a
different description of the gunman. As the defense investigator stated
in an affidavit in 1993: "Because we assumed Gary was guilty from the
start we did not give his case the same attention we would routinely
give a case. We just did not have the time to worry about a guilty
client, and I would not have felt comfortable trying to find evidence
that would have proved him innocent. It may sound unfair but that's the
way it was." -The single eyewitness whose testimony convicted Shaka,
according to her own account, saw the crime from 30 to 40 feet away,
through the windshield of her car in the dark of night, and only saw the
face of the killer for a matter of seconds. A white woman, she initially
failed to identify Shaka's photograph in a photo array she was shown by
police, saying that the killer's face was "thinner and darker" than
Shaka's. She only identified him several days later, after police put
him in a line-up.
- - -No physical evidence whatsoever connected Shaka to the scene.
Ballistics tests which conclusively found that the .22 revolver which
was found on him was not the murder weapon. The attorney also failed to
present this evidence in 1981.
        In 1993, Shaka was given a stay of execution by
then-Texas Governor Ann Richards (to whom the murder victim's widow,
Loretta Lambert, had publicly appealed to spare Shaka's life: "It has
been brought to my attention that there is evidence that creates a
possibility of reasonable doubt as to whether or not Gary Graham did in
fact commit this crime...I do not want the execution of a possibly
innocent man."). New lawyers finally launched an investigation of the
case, and revealed the following evidence, most of which was in Houston
police reports from 1981 and could have been found by competent lawyers
at the time of the trial:
- - -Five witnesses passed lie detector tests asserting the truth of their
claim that Shaka was with them on the night of the murder, miles away
from the crime scene.
- - -At least six eyewitnesses gave a completely different physical
description of the gunman, stating that the actual killer was much
shorter and had different facial characteristics. Two eyewitnesses swore
in affidavits under oath that Shaka was not the man. None of these
witnesses has ever been allowed to testify in a court of law.
- - -Three of the jurors who originally convicted Shaka have now publicly
stated that they would have acquitted him had they been allowed to hear
all the evidence in 1981.
        In 1994, Shaka's lawyers argued before the Fifth
Circuit Court of Appeals for a new trial. Two years later, the court
ruled that there was substantial evidence that should be heard in a
court, but sent the case back to the Texas court, which refused to hold
a hearing. With an execution date of January 1999, Shaka's lawyers went
back to federal court, which ruled that the Effective Death Penalty
Act--signed into law by President Clinton in 1996--blocked new evidence
from being heard.
        The final execution date was set for yesterday,
June 22, 2000. And yesterday, the Texas Board of Pardons and
Paroles--all Bush appointees--refused clemency (despite the opposition
of 5 out of its 17 members). The Supreme Court then turned down Shaka's
final appeal by a 5-4 vote. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and
Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy and
Clarence Thomas voted to reject the appeal. Justices John Paul Stevens,
David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer voted to
order the execution postponed.
        After a federal judge and state appeals court
turned down Shaka's very last appeals, "compassionate conservative"
Governor Bush signed the death warrant, saying that he supported the
execution, that Graham's case had been reviewed "20 times by state and
federal courts" and by 33 judges (there was only a single review of the
case in which witnesses could testify, in state court in 1987--before
any of the new evidence was uncovered), and that, "After considering all
of the facts, I am confident that justice is being done." The execution
went forward.
        Outside, hundreds gathered in the stifling heat
around the Huntsville facility where 222 have been executed since Texas
resumed capital punishment in 1982. Six people were arrested for
breaking through police lines (as were dozens of others in New York
City, San Francisco, and Northampton, MA). Earlier in the day, the Ku
Klux Klan had held a counter-demonstration/celebration in front of the
building.
        Inside, in the hours leading up to the
execution, Shaka had refused meals but met with the Rev. Jesse Jackson,
who said he and Shaka talked and prayed:
  "He was amazingly upbeat. There were no tears shed. He had a sense
of inner peace. He feels he was being used as a kind of change agent to
expose the system."
        Now, Shaka resisted, having vowed to "fight like
hell" on the way to the death chamber, and five guards were brought in
to transfer him from the holding cell to the execution gurney. He was
beaten (witnesses observed bruises on his arms), handcuffed to the
gurney and strapped to it across his head. After again asserting his
innocence to the family of Bobby Lambert, who were among the witnesses,
he made a final statement to his witnesses, including Rev. Jackson, the
Rev. Al Sharpton, and Amnesty International representative Bianca
Jagger, speaking quickly:
        "I die fighting for what I believed in. The
truth will come out...You can kill a revolutionary, but not the
revolution...Keep marching! Black power! They are killing me tonight.
They are murdering me tonight." Then he went silent.
        Shaka Sankofa, 36, died at 8:49 Central Time,
the 135th person to be executed under Governor Bush, and the eighth
person worldwide (the seventh in the U.S.--the other was in Iran)
executed over the past three years for crimes allegedly committed when
they were children. Shaka died with one eye open.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:15:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: aabdo at webtv.net (Tony Abdo)
Subject: La Dictadura De Adentro Denuncia La Dictadura Desde Afuera

Viernes 23 de Junio del 2000
La Legitimidad Desde Afuera
Amanecer del 3 de Julio
SALVADOR DEL RIO

Cuando el Presidente de Estados Unidos, William Clinton, decidió
retirar su apoyo a la candidatura del entonces ya ex mandatario de
México Carlos Salinas de Gortari para ocupar la dirigencia de la
Organización Mundial de Comercio, uno de los miembros de su gabinete,
Lloyd Bentsen, tomó una determinación poco usual en la política de
aquí, de allá y de cualquier parte: renunciar a la Secretaría del
Tesoro en la que había sido nombrado como titular por el propio
Clinton.

Poco antes, la señora Anne Richards, senadora a la sazón y quien
había sido gobernadora de Texas, se lamentaba en una reunión
celebrada para analizar junto con politólogos de diversas
universidades la democracia en México, del hecho de que aquí no
hubiera reelección, lo que impedía la continuación del gobierno de
Carlos Salinas de Gortari.

Hoy ambos personajes, activos aún en la política estadunidense y
ligados en diversos negocios con grupos empresariales mexicanos,
particularmente de Nonterrey, forman parte de los más de doscientos
observadores procedentes de EU que vendrán a presenciar el desarrollo
de las elecciones el próximo 2 de julio.

Seremos -ha dicho la ex gobernadora Richards- vigías internacionales
de la democracia, y al afirmarlo así precisa otras declaraciones de
representantes de agrupaciones e incluso de partidos políticos del
vecino país.

La integración de los grupos que han sido autorizados, de acuerdo con
la legislación mexicana en la materia, para cumplir funciones de
observación en los comicios, permite sin embargo dudar de que la
intención de muchos de ellos sea sólo satisfacer el propósito
altruista de vigilar que el ejercicio electoral en un país vecino no
vulnere los principios de la democracia. Más bien se puede tener la
sospecha de que en esa larga relación de testigos que serán de la
jornada del 2 de julio habrá no pocos de los promotores de injerencia
directa en los asuntos internos de ese vecino e incluso ligados a
patrocinadores económicos de la campaña de uno de los candidatos,
Vicente Vox, comprendidos en la lista que hace algunos días publicó
EXCELSIOR y algunas de cuyas evidencias fueron exhibidas, con documentos
probatorios, por el cohadinador de la bancada priísta en la Cámara
de Diputados, Enrique Jackson, desde la tribuna de la Comisión
Permanente de la Unión.

Los nombres de Richards y Bentsen son en realidad sólo una muestra de
la naturaleza de no pocas de las comisiones que enviarán observadores
a las elecciones. El ex presidente James Carter, hoy convertido en
censor de gobiernos a los que se considera no se ajustan al modelo
democrático norteamericano, encabezará al grupo del Partido
Demócrata. El ex senador John Bailey, quien será también
observador, apadrinó al fallido procurador priísta Antonio Lozano
Gracia para asistir como profesor invitado a la Universidad de
Georgetown, no obstante su absoluto desconocimiento del idioma inglés,
cuando el fallido procurador del inicio de la presente administración
fue destituido.

Entre los asistentes a la jornada electoral estarán también los
representantes de una de las organizaciones identificadas con la más
extrema derecha conservadora de Estados Unidos, la Fundación Eritage,
estrechamente vinculada al Centro de Inteligencia Estratégica (CSIS
según sus siglas en inglés) y a las estructuras de poder de la
Unión Americana, cuyo principal analista y vocero, Steve Johnson, ha
criticado "la manipulación de programas federales de asistencia
social", por parte del gobierno de México para orientar el voto en
favor de los candidatos del Partido Revolucionario Institucional.

Tanto los nombres de la mayoría de los observadores norteamericanos
como las organizaciones que representan, fortalecen la suposición de
que el criterio general de esos visitantes ya está prejuiciado
respecto a la limpieza de las elecciones del 2 de julio, y no
precisamente por un prurito en defensa de la democracia, sino más bien
como una forma de contribuir a una posible -y deseable para el concepto
de la democracia norteamericana- alternancia en el poder que crearía
en México el tan anhelado bipartidismo debidamente institucionalizado.

Denunciados apenas por el PRI, tanto en voz de su candidato a la
Presidencia de la República como por el coordinador de sus diputados,
tal vez los asesores de Francisco Labastida no hayan advertido la
magnitud del problema al que se enfrentaría el país de consumarse el
designio que parece conformarse en la opinión de los influyentes
observadores norteamericanos, cuando el 3 de julio declaren a los cuatro
vientos que las elecciones de México fueron fraudulentas.
Lo menos que podrá pasar entonces será la existencia de un gobierno
cuestionado desde el exterior como ilegítimo, lo cual no es poco para
desgracia de la democracia mexicana.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:31:06 EDT
From: "Chris Doss" <itschris13 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Springtime for Hitler

How would you place Arendt's _The Origins of Totalitarianism_ in this
context?  I'm writing my dissertation on her and her relationship to
Heidegger and Marx, so I'm curious.

>From: "Paul Flewers" <hatchet.job at virgin.net>
>Reply-To: marxism at lists.panix.com
>To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
>Subject: Re: Springtime for Hitler
>Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:52:32 +0100
>
>The idea that Marxism/Bolshevism/Stalinism and fascism/Nazism are
>essentially the same totalitarian thing is nothing new. Back in the 1930s
>what I call the convergence theory became popular, particularly as Hitler's
>regime started to intervene more in the economy after about 1936. This
>theory became much more popular after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in August
>1939. It was based upon the fact that both Nazi Germany and the Soviet
>Union shared a statified and planned economy, a monolithic and monopolising
>party with a strong leader cult, and the suppression of individual rights.
>Bolshevism and fascism (and indirectly Nazism) were often seen as being
>rooted in syndicalism, which was defined (somewhat strangely to me) as a
>strong leadership manipulating a passive majority into violent social
>change. Marx was sometimes seen as an authoritarian philosopher alongside
>Nietzsche, Sorel and Bergson, or in a long line of state-worshipping
>Germans starting with Luthor.
>
>People subscribing to the theory in the 1930s included conservatives like
>Alfred Cobban, free marketeers like Hayek, and social democrats like
>Richard Crossman, and they were joined by all manner of people after August
>1939. The most illustrative examples of convergence theory are Frederick
>Voigt, Unto Caesar, 1938; Franz Borkenau, The Totalitarian Enemy, 1940; Max
>Eastman, Soviet Russia and the Crisis in Socialism, 1940. Voigt was a
>Christian journalist based in Britain, most probably from a German
>background, politically some sort of right-wing liberal; Borkenau was a
>rightward-moving former member of the German Communist Party; Eastman was a
>rightward-moving former US radical. The British New Statesman was
>interesting. It was a fellow-travelling mag in the 1930s, if a bit
>disillusioned by the time that Stalin had staged three show trials; then
>after August 1939 it talked of the 'totalitarian menace' existing from the
>Rhine to Vladivostok; after June 1941, it rehabilitated the Soviet Union as
>a 'workers' republic'!
>
>James Burnham, a renegade from the Trotskyist movement, is often seen as a
>pioneer in this field. This is not true, most of the ideas in his
>Managerial Revolution of 1942 (I think) were commonplace in the late 1930s.
>
>The theory of totalitarianism was first systematised prior to Hitler's
>victory, by a Russian Jew turned Catholic and naturalised in Germany called
>Walter Gurian in 1931, in a thick book called the Theory and Practice of
>Bolshevism, English translation 1932. Its main thrust was that any attempt
>to eliminate the market would lead to totalitarianism. Almost every bit of
>postwar totalitarian theory put out by Cold War types was ultimately based
>on this book, although Gurian hardly ever gets mentioned.
>
>I'm covering a lot of this stuff in my PhD thesis, hopefully in a stralia had turned
>her back on the Irish past.  Moreover while the IRA
remained a revolutionary danger it was not respectable to be Irish here in
Australia.  Not really.

Now it would seem that it is once more the raqe.  Yet it is a very fake
phenomenon.  In many ways as phony as those Irish songs that Bing Crosby
sang. As for the Irish Pub bit it is a 'load of shite' as they say back
home.  I have only been thrown out of one pub in my whole drinking career
and that was recently here in Brisbane because the Australian bar tender in
an Irish pub could not understand my accent.  True!

regards

Gary








At 09:48 23/06/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >This is an article from Clarin.
> >Is there in the list someone who can explain this celtic wave in West world?
> >
> >Julio FB
> >Viernes 23 de junio de 2000
>
>It's hard to say, but along with the dance companies there have been other
>notable expressions of Irish culture and identity in the past few years.
>First among them is the runaway best-seller "Angela's Ashes", which is the
>memoir of Frank McCourt. Angela McCourt was Frank's mother and she had to
>deal with extreme poverty, an alcoholic husband and other obstacles. Frank
>was a high-school teacher up until the book was published. His brother
>Malachy McCourt is an actor who has published his own memoir and the two
>have co-produced an off-broadway revue based on their writings. What's of
>more interest is the fact that both of them are political radicals. Malachy
>had a radio show on NYC's Pacifica station which his brother used to sub
>for him every once in a while. In a delightful brogue, they'd attack racism
>and imperialism.
>
>The other important artifact is Thomas Cahill's "How the Irish Saved
>Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role from the Fall of
>Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe" which was also a runaway bestseller.
>Cahill has since written a similar book on the Jews.
>
>These sorts of expressions seem positive to me, because the Irish have
>functioned in many ways as a bastion of reaction since the Civil War. They
>were co-opted by the ruling class as a reservoir of racism against blacks.
>The irony of the "niggers of Europe" willingly being used to keep blacks
>out of construction jobs or white neighborhoods has been extensively
>analyzed by scholars such as David Roediger and Theodore Allen.
>
>
>
>Louis Proyect
>
>The Marxism mailing-list: http://www.marxmail.org

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:20:20 +0000
From: Ambrose Andrews <ambrosea at primus.com.au>
Subject: [Fwd: Press Release: Nike.com redirected to s11.org (fwd)]

- - -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fw: Press Release: Nike.com redirected to
s11.org (fwd)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:03:28 +1000 (EST)
From: Brendan Greenhill <brendan at 4zzzfm.org.au>
To: activist at 4zzzfm.org.au

- - -----Original Message-----
From: seleven org <peace at s11.org>
To: moonfest at mooneevalley.vic.gov.au <moonfest at mooneevalley.vic.gov.au>
Date: Thursday, 22 June 2000 5:53
Subject: Press Release: Nike.com redirected to s11.org


>PRESS RELEASE FROM S11.ORG
>
>The sporting goods monolith Nike's website
nike.com was redirected to
>Melbourne anti-globalisation website s11.org late
yesterday for a period
>of up to 19 hours. The site recieved over a
quarter of a million hits in
>the first six hours. The website administrators
do not know how this was
>done or why.
>
>s11.org is a website dedicated to grassroots
organisation preparing to
>shutdown the World Economic Forum meeting at
Melbourne's Crown Casino in
>September. We suspect Nike may have been
targetted for their highly
>publicised employment practices, which have
gained extra attention in
>Melbourne of late with the recent court case
against them.
>
>The s11.org website has detailed information
about the wrongdoings of
>the WEF and its members. Extra information has
been added about Nike
>since the reroute.
>
>http://www.s11.org/
>
>There was a story about the 'reroute' here:-
>http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,37146,00.html
>There is more informationation about Nike at the
Boycott Nike homepage:-
>http://www.saigon.com/~nike/
>
>
>OTHER GROUPS
>We have recieved the following statements from
other groups involved
>with s11:-
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- - ------
>
>From: <S11 Alliance> s11_ at hotmail.com
>
>Reagarding the recent website rerouting of www.nike.com:
>
>The s11 alliance, a coalition of groups and
individuals based in
>Melbourne,
>Australia, who are organising protests at the
World Economic Forum on
>September 11-13th, was not responsible for the
redirection of the Nike
>website. The s11 alliance has no knowledge of the
identity, whereabouts,
>
>motives, or methods used by the disablers of the
Nike Corporations'
>website,
>www.nike.com.
>
>S11 is a network of organisations, affinity
groups, and individuals that
>all
>share a common concern about the growth of
corporate power and the
>direction
>of globalisation. We are one of the main
groupings organising a week of
>cooperation, networking and protest action
against the WEF. We encourage
>
>everyone who is concerned about the direction of
globalisation and the
>actions of the WEF to join our network and/or
organise actions on and
>around
>September 11.
>
>On September 11-13th, the World Economic Forum
(WEF) will hold its
>Asia-Pacific Economic Summit. Like the World
Trade Organisation (WTO)
>and
>the IMF/World Bank, the World Economic Forum is a
means of promoting
>economic and social policies that will benefit
the rich and the powerful
>at
>the expense of the majority of the world's people
and the environment.
>Participants are being lured to the summit with
the opportunity to meet
>"at
>a time when the eyes of the world will be fixed
on Australia, and
>coordinate
>their participation in the Summit with the
Olympic Games." Members of
>the
>WEF include Amcor, BHP, BP, Boeing, Citibank,
Commonwealth Bank,
>Cheveron,
>Dow Corning, Dupont, Exxon-Mobil, General Motors
Holden, McDonald's,
>Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Monsanto, Nestle, Nike,
Publishing & Broadcasting
>
>Ltd., Rio Tinto, Shell, Siemans, Westfield,
Western Mining.
>
>For more information, see http://www.s11.org
>
>
>
>
>************************************************************
>
>From: deadsuperstar at cybergal.com
>Solidarity With the S11 nike.com Hackers
>Communique from the Chic Revolutionary Fashion Cabal
>
>The stickering and protest at Melbourneís nike
town was undertaken in
>support of the hackers that re-directed the
nike.com site to
>www.s11.org. Though the hackers are unknown to us
we take our action in
>solidarity with their action and in preparation
for the shutdown of the
>World Economic Forum. We oppose the WEF and its
capitalist entourage for

>several reasons;
>The free trade agenda of the wef pushes workers
and the environment to
>the wall. The global nature of capital creates a
race to the bottom in
>labour and environmental standards through its
ability to shift capital
>and production at a whim.
>The WEF is entirely undemocratic and have
no-right to proclaim global
>leadership. Their agenda is that of corporate
profit and their members
>are regulars in trampling human rights, workers
and the environment. A
>quick scan through their members; Nike, Shell,
Microsoft, Rio Tinto,
>Siemens, Publishing and Broadcasting etc. reveals
a pot pourri of
>corporate savegry.
>DOWN WITH THE WEF ñ DOWN WITH THE CORPORATE ORDER
ñ DOWN WITH GLOBAL
>CAPITALISM
>UP WITH FRESH FRUIT ñ UP WITH THE LESUIRE SOCIETY
ñ LOOTED HIGH FASHION
>ON THE STREETS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:25:15 +0100
From: "M A Jones" <jones118 at lineone.net>
Subject: Re: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?

If you want to unsub an egroups list, you have to click on something like
this:
To unsubscribe send email to: CrashList-talk-unsubscribe at egroups.com
(for crashlist-talk, that is, dunno about Malecki's list). BUT NOTA BENE:
This DOES NOT instantly unsub you: you then get a second dialogue which
again prompts you to unsub yourself, and this time if you click 'unsub'
you'll be unsubbed. I know this works, because Malecki subbed me too, and I
unsubbed myself about 3 nanoseconds later. So  it can be done.

Mark Jones
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From: "Jose G. Perez" <jg_perez at bellsouth.net>
To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?


> 1. Who is Malecki?
>
> 2. I suggest that those who have been subscribed involuntarily, as I
> have been, direct their responses to abuse at egroups.com
>
> This is necessary because the list owner has so far apparently refused
> to unsub me and several other people.
>
> If egroups receives several complaints, they will take a look at the
> list, see that the listowner has been subscribing people without
> authorization, and take appropriate measures.
>
> I believe the addresses were drawn from this list, as it is the only
> one, I believe, that Carrol, Nestor and I are all on.
>
> José
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
> To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 PM
> Subject: Query: Who put so many of us on that f*ing list?
>
>
> > I, and apparently quite a few others, have found ourselves
> > subscribed to a list called "rev-commies at egroups.com".
> > Does anyone know who did it to us? I gather from the first
> > post I read that Malecki is on it!!!
> >
> > Carrol
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:38:18 +0100
From: "Paul Flewers" <hatchet.job at virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Celtic invasion to Buenos Aires

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Gary Maclennan wrote: < As for the Irish Pub bit it is a 'load of shite' =
as they say back home.  I have only been thrown out of one pub in my =
whole drinking career and that was recently here in Brisbane because the =
Australian bar tender in an Irish pub could not understand my accent.  =
True! >

List members who have not been to Britain for a bit may not know of the =
'Irish Pub' phenomenon. Over the last five or so years, many ordinary =
pubs in London and other British cities have been refurbished as 'Irish =
Pubs', painted garish colours, covered in junk and old bottles with =
Irish labels, stocked with foul brews and generally messed up. Friends =
and colleagues of mine from Ireland say they're nothing like Irish pubs, =
which (they told me) are either like ordinary British pubs, or bars at =
the back of shops (British 'Irish Pubs' are pubs trying to look like =
shops trying to look like pubs), and they hate them with an intensity =
that has to be seen to be believed. I don't know who started this =
horrible fashion, but whoever was responsible for them should not be =
allowed to go unpunished.

Paul F



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary Maclennan=20
  To: marxism at lists.panix.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 6:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Celtic invasion to Buenos Aires


  Very interesting Lou.  I struggled through the Spanish.  Gotta get a=20
  dictionary.

  I am more than a little sceptical about the tide of Cetlic phenomena =
that=20
  is spreading world wide.   In many ways it is very postmodern in the  =
sense=20
  that the bourgeoise of the entertainment industries have to scour the =
globe=20
  for new aesthetic phenomena to commodify and market.  It is though =
worth=20
  pointing out the pivotal role of the Irish in literary modernity - =
Yeats,=20
  Joyce, Beckett etc.  Always with the master slave dialectic that =
underpins=20
  capitalism creativity comes from the margins.


  In Australia the Celtic mania did not take off until the peace process =
in=20
  Ireland neutralised Anglo resistance here. When I came to Australia in =
1975=20
  a tide of Irish jokes arrived.  These were the same jokes that British =

  comedians told British soldiers before they went out on the streets on =

  Northern Ireland to oppress the Irish.  I remember seeing a program =
where=20
  the English comedian Ken Dodd told a whole string of Irish jokes to =
British=20
  soldiers dressed in uniform and cradling their guns.  I thought then =
that=20
  the Jews must have had a similar reaction to the Jewish jokes told by=20
  Nazis. So when I got to Australia and heard the same jokes, I suffered =

  something of a crisis.

  However the jokes  functioned differently here.  In Australia Irish =
jokes=20
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  colonialism - the total assimilation of the Irish culture in=20
  Australia.  The upshot of the jokes craze was a deepening of the =
feeling=20
  that to be Irish was to be stupid or mad and that it was a good thing =
that=20
  Australia had turned her back on the Irish past.  Moreover while the =
IRA=20
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here in=20
  Australia.  Not really.

  Now it would seem that it is once more the raqe.  Yet it is a very =
fake=20
  phenomenon.  In many ways as phony as those Irish songs that Bing =
Crosby=20
  sang. regards

  Gary








  At 09:48 23/06/00 -0400, you wrote:
  > >This is an article from Clarin.
  > >Is there in the list someone who can explain this celtic wave in =
West world?
  > >
  > >Julio FB
  > >Viernes 23 de junio de 2000
  >
  >It's hard to say, but along with the dance companies there have been =
other
  >notable expressions of Irish culture and identity in the past few =
years.
  >First among them is the runaway best-seller "Angela's Ashes", which =
is the
  >memoir of Frank McCourt. Angela McCourt was Frank's mother and she =
had to
  >deal with extreme poverty, an alcoholic husband and other obstacles. =
Frank
  >was a high-school teacher up until the book was published. His =
brother
  >Malachy McCourt is an actor who has published his own memoir and the =
two
  >have co-produced an off-broadway revue based on their writings. =
What's of
  >more interest is the fact that both of them are political radicals. =
Malachy
  >had a radio show on NYC's Pacifica station which his brother used to =
sub
  >for him every once in a while. In a delightful brogue, they'd attack =
racism
  >and imperialism.
  >
  >The other important artifact is Thomas Cahill's "How the Irish Saved
  >Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role from the Fall =
of
  >Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe" which was also a runaway =
bestseller.
  >Cahill has since written a similar book on the Jews.
  >
  >These sorts of expressions seem positive to me, because the Irish =
have
  >functioned in many ways as a bastion of reaction since the Civil War. =
They
  >were co-opted by the ruling class as a reservoir of racism against =
blacks.
  >The irony of the "niggers of Europe" willingly being used to keep =
blacks
  >out of construction jobs or white neighborhoods has been extensively
  >analyzed by scholars such as David Roediger and Theodore Allen.
  >
  >
  >
  >Louis Proyect
  >
  >The Marxism mailing-list: http://www.marxmail.org



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world=20
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sense=20
  <BR>that the bourgeoise of the entertainment industries have to scour =
the=20
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literary=20
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master slave=20
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until the=20
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came to=20
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the same=20
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went out on=20
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remember=20
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good=20
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Moreover=20
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respectable to be=20
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