Germany is against dolarization
welch at SPAMcwcom.net
Fri Jun 30 08:11:01 MDT 2000
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 08:48:16AM -0300, Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:
> Look, David, I know the statement above may sound abusive and
> insulting. And I do not have the statistics handy.
So bald assertion and waffle substitute for fact. Well the most obvious
point to make is that first-world proletarians produce more surplus value
(because of their higher productivity) so while their lives are better in
absolute terms, they are relatively more exploited.
I'm not sure what you mean by overconsumption (relative to some
Maslov-esque hierarchy of needs?), it's usually the bourgeoisie who
complain about greedy workers.
> But all that
> imperialism is about is avoiding civil war in the core by
> overexploitation in the periphery. Not news, in fact
It is to me. Imperialism (as a distinct stage of capitalism) arose because
the declining rate of profit forces capitalism to change its own laws of
motion to survive. I would have thought that was an ABC. You make it sound
as though the motivation for capitalism was to satisfy the needs of the
> But the French proletarians COULD have gone ahead ("with the leaders
> heading them, or with the leaders beheaded" is a topical Peronist,
> that is, national revolutionary, saying in Argentina, which many self-
> appointed socialists should take note of) and, dammit, DO their
> revolutions after 1945. They did not. One can have a long, long, long
> conversation on the role played by Stalinism, and so on. But that is
> to put one's shit at the neighbour's door. The question is "why
> didn't the workers steer the French CP to the Left"? If someone gives
> me a better reason than imperialist expoliation of Algeria, Western
> Africa and Indochina, then I would not say that they did it because
> they knew that imperialism, though put them in a subordinate and
> unpleasant place, had worse places reserved for the rest of the
> working class on this Planet Earth.
Well having unleashed the Nazis to smash workers' organisations in
Germany, imperialism waited for them to do the same in most of the rest of
Europe (and almost the USSR). All of the imperialist countries (except
Britain and the US) have experienced the 'openly terroristic dictatorship
of finance capital' this century, not a nice place to be.
It's also misleading to talk about the 'rest of the working class', apart
from a few industrializing countries like Korea, most of the population
outside the periphery are either subsistence farmers or soldiers.
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