Doug Henwood/Mark Jones exchange (from LBO-Talk)

Ulhas Joglekar ulhasj at SPAMbom4.vsnl.net.in
Mon May 1 01:22:09 MDT 2000


One clarification for Julio. I have not accused anybody of putting forward
Proudhonist/ Nardoniki viewpoint.

Ulhas


----- Original Message -----
From: Julio Fernández Baraibar <julfb at sinectis.com.ar>
To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:15 AM
Subject: RE: Doug Henwood/Mark Jones exchange (from LBO-Talk)


> It is exctly this kind of byzantine discussion what has converted marxism
in
> a new scholasticism.
> Nestor didn't say only what this purist critiquer states here. He has been
> writing to the list about every kind of political, economic and
> philosophical questions and in none case it has seemed that he has some
sort
> of moralizing-idealistic desviation. He says here only that capitalism is
> also a social system based upon
> a negative human drive.
> To discuss about this is waste of time and stupid. None of us is
proudhonist
> or narodniki.
>
> Julio FB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ulhas Joglekar <ulhasj at bom4.vsnl.net.in>
> To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 1:58 PM
> Subject: Doug Henwood/Mark Jones exchange (from LBO-Talk)
>
>
> > Nestor has described capitalism as "a social system based upon
> > a negative human drive". IMHO capitalism is not a system BASED
> > on a human drive. Capitalism is certainly characterised by a 'drive'
> > for capital accumulation, which 'drive' is based on the relations of
> > production SPECIFIC to the capitalist mode of production.
> >
> > Ulhas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky <gorojovsky at inea.com.ar>
> > To: <marxism at lists.panix.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Doug Henwood/Mark Jones exchange (from LBO-Talk)
> >
> > >  a social system based upon a negative human drive
> > > cannot last forever. Why does such an elementary idea generate
> > > reactions is a mystery to me.
> > >
> > > Or it is not.
> > >
> > >
> > > Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
> > > gorojovsky at inea.com.ar
> > >






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