Philip Ferguson plf13 at
Thu Nov 23 18:35:31 MST 2000

Danielle wrote:

>At 01:32 PM 11/23/2000 , Philip Ferguson wrote:
> >Moreover, the Irish republican movement was the national liberation
> >movement *least dependent* on the Soviet bloc and with *no relations at
> >all* actually with the Soviet bloc.
>Didn't the Official IRA receive some aid and weaponry from the USSR in the
>early 70s?  Of course by that time the Officials were well on their way to
>being reformists who supported partition.

The Provos never had any links with the Soviet bloc.

The Officials, who later became the Workers Party - and are also the group
from which the IRSP (which you are aligned with) came - may have received
some material support.

Me to Jose:
> >You seem unwilling or unable to deal with the fact that the Good Friday
> >Agreement, and its aftermath, mean that the Adams cabal is now part of the
> >*administration of the northern Ireland state* - ie they are part of the
> >administration of neo-colonialism in Ireland.

>Not only are they administering British rule through political means, but
>by armed means as well (which the British state tacitly supports).  The
>recent murder of the Real IRA's Belfast Commander by the Provisionals is an
>example.  While I don't agree with the Real IRA's continuation of armed
>struggle, it's clear from the harassment of people like Gorman and McIntyre
>that the Provisionals see non-violent opposition to the GFA as a threat to
>their hegemony as well.

Yes, and this is a very worrying trend.

In Ireland, and elsewhere (like the MidEast), the leaderships which sell
out are then faced with the task of repressing those who don't go along
with the sell-out.  Griffith, Collins and their colleagues, following the
1921 Treaty, ruthlessly turned on the anti-Treaty republicans (who had a
majority in all the republican organisations) and murdered a great deal
more republicans in one year than what the Brits had in the three years of
the independence war.

In the 1930s when De Valera, having split from the republican movement in
the 1920s, got into office, he too turned on the republicans, and repressed
and jailed and killed them.

In the 1970s, when the Officials made their peace with imperialism, and a
section  led by Seamus Costello broke away and renewed socialist
republicanism by starting the IRSP, the Officials turned their guns on
them, and murdered Costello and others.

Now the Adams cabal have joined the list of sell-outs and, like those
before them, they have to enforce the 'agreement' on those who want to
continue struggling and who threaten to upset the cosy new relationship in
which Adams acts as Ireland's Tony Blair.  The Provos are thus forced to
turn on the Real IRA and the Continuity Army Council, and they will also be
forced to turn on non-military groups which oppose the agreement as well.

I had an interesting experience of this myself.  After I left Ireland, and
Sinn Fein, and came back to New Zealand, I was involved in Information on
Ireland, the main support group here, which basically consists on
non-aligned leftists.  It's magazine, Saoirse/NZ Irish Post ran articles
with a variety of viewpoints on the 'peace process', although the view of
people in IOI would most likely have been closest to people like Bernadette
McAliskey.  I wrote an article on the direction of the SF leadership.
Among those who read it was a brother of Tom Hartley (SF general secretary
and probably the chief architect of the rightward drift of SF).  The
brother made a trip to Ireland and when he came back told me that a leader
of SF (whose name I know, but it doesn't really matter who it is) said that
at the next IOI AGM my head should be ripped off my shoulders.  Since most
people in IOI were critical of the SF position, and also favour democratic
discussion, this did not of course happen.

If this was the response to a (relatvely moderate) article written by a
relative pipsqueak like me in a mag 10,000 miles away, I can imagine how
the Adams/Hartley leadership is responding to criticism on the ground in
the six counties.  It is a sorry end indeed to a heroic struggle and a
terrible end for a leadership that once was so worthy of respect.

Back in about 1993 Bernadette McAliskey said that the republicans who were
signing up to the 'peace process' would be vilified, and repudiated, by

Let's hope history moves fast.


PS: I'm planning on going back to Ireland for a visit next year and
dropping in on SF!  Could be interesting!

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