A reading list for Anthony

snedeker snedeker at SPAMconcentric.net
Fri Nov 24 20:01:42 MST 2000

        Xxxx has provided some interesting arguments about this question.
the southern U.S. economy shows the limits of a too narrow difinition of
capitalism. I remember how Genovise used to argue that the south was not
capitalist. this position did not get him very far. of course, there are
also many people today who suffer under forms of forced labor. one would not
want to argue that they are not exploited by capitalism.
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Subject: Re: A reading list for Anthony

> snedeker wrote:
> > explanation is important. however pointing to class formation is also
not an
> > explanation of the emergence of capitalism. we do have a problem with
> > distinction between description and explanation. this is  true for
> > Yoshie and me. what is the driving force behind capital accumulation?
> > tells us that it is to be found within the C.M.P. is that enough of an
> > answer? I'm not sure.description does have an important  role in
> > it helps us tell the story of the rise of capitalism, but explanation is
> > also important. am I still stuck in the circle?
> >
> > what about primitive accumulation as a concept? what does it explain?
> Hi George! I concurred with you when you mentioned that  industrial
> and plantation production were both contributing to capital accumulation
at the
> same time. This is where the importance of Marx steps in if we want to
> Marx from the misreading of Brenner. Modern slavery, which supplied
> factories with cotton and other raw materials, as Marx pointed out, was
> capitalist slavery. That is why we need to put the adjective "modern" in
> of slavery.  Marx argued that gains from slave based production and
> trade were an important part of the process of primitive accumulation, not
> the enclosure movement led by landowners in Britain.  Marx also had
> observations about how India under imperialism was  integral to British
> industrial growth (although some people like O'Brien denies the
contribution of
> the periphery to prosperity of the core. For example, Weberian Ricardo, on
> pen-l,  likes  to cite O'Brien to support his views on Brenner).
> if one takes Britain as the only capitalist system by virtue of capitalist
> of production (or internal class relations only), then the US South is
> non-capitalist and hence not part of the explanation of  the problem--
> capitalism as a world system. To assume that societies have their internal
> of development, as Brenner does with respect to Britain, is not only to
> the superiority of  Britain as a colonizer's model  to be followed by the
> of the world, but also to take a refugee in vulgar culturalist assumptions
> the economic backwardness of the non-western world vis a vis Britain. This
> Eurocentric theology at its best.  Such a world view minimizes the
importance of
> modern slavery in the capitalist accumulation process and denies the
> of  cultural assimilation that took place via imperialism.
> In a nutshell, what we need to do is to acknowledge the fact that
capitalism has
> a variety of forms of  labor--*wage labor being a only faction of all
forms of
> labor*, not a reified category that develops everywhere in the same manner
> capitalism develops.. That is why existence of  slavery ( or "corvee
labor" in
> Poland--18th century;  "forced free labor"; "forced unfree labor", etc..)
> wage labor was not antagonistic to the development of capitalism, but
rather was
> part of the same process of capitalism within a single division of labor
> has created hierarchical economic roles/labor for different regions of the
> (not only among regions but also _within_ regions)
> Xxxx
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