Gay liberation and Stalin

Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxx at xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Thu Nov 30 21:49:25 MST 2000



Very well thought comments, Philip. It is amazing how capitalism
imposes challenges on gay liberation movement and commodifies sexuality.
On the one hand, homosexuality is heavily discriminated by heterosexual
norms. On the other hand, it is incorporated by the ruling classes to fit
the cultural patterns of capitalism. Hence, gay life styles, commercial
porns, magazines, bars, fashion, etc.. Under beneath those realities, there
lie the same capitalist mentality: sexuality as a commodifiable thing in
the market place. As long as gays compromise with the rules of the game
(just as heteros), they will easily be coapted by the *very* heterosexist
norms they are opposing. No wonder why ruling classes who think marriage
is *not* an obstacle to capitalism have eventually discovered to tolerate
gay marriages (as in the case of NZ).

I also think that changing social structures of societies
matters in the treatment of homosexuality. In the recent article I posted
on the list, I was amazed to see how social attitudes in an Islamic country
like Pakistan tolerate same sex fucking (and even male prostitution) whereas
it punishes opposite sex fucking. Of course, in the Islamic rules of Pakistan,
homosexuality is still banned. It is treated as a perverse sexual choice.
In the social attitudes of people, however, homosexuality may well be tolerated
to serve some practical needs. In third world countries where gender relations
are undergoing a process of modernization and capitalism is gradually undermining
traditional gender norms (due to neo-liberal restructuring), people prefer
to tolerate homosexuality as a defense mechanism against heterosexuality
that they automatically associate with too much "liberalization of women"
and western norms of sexual relations. In that case, homosexuality serves
to head off demands for heterosexual liberation. This may be because gender
segregation may be more visible in some societies in a way to allow some
possibilities for the development of homosexual identity.  In some
rural areas of Turkey, for example, a man *cannot*  get away with
harming the virginity of a young woman (who is automatically considered
to be a "prostitute/bad woman")  whereas sex between young boys/men
is generally accepted to be a *normal/routine* thing within the general
perception of a community. In urban areas, on the contrary, this would
be considered sexually *inappropriate* or a sign of *rural backwardness*.
 
 

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Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx
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Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
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Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx
PhD Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
Albany, NY 12222
 





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